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I wonder what the chances are they are going to lock us down using the 'real' flu as a reason? Will they say it will overwhelm the NHS this year because people were not exposed to it last year (apparently!!!!)? They seem to be building up to something which involves the flu for this winter.

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9 hours ago, CarpeDiem said:

I wonder what the chances are they are going to lock us down using the 'real' flu as a reason? Will they say it will overwhelm the NHS this year because people were not exposed to it last year (apparently!!!!)? They seem to be building up to something which involves the flu for this winter.

 

They started setting the stage for this when Chris Whitty announced at the very beginning of April that Covid was to be treated like flu. This was widely reported in the MSM including by the Guardian here. Many people said at the time that perhaps what Whitty really meant was that flu was to be treated like Covid with all the lockdowns, social distancing, vaccines etc that has come with the latter.

 

And, since at least March, the MSM has been making noises about how, due to lockdowns, people are now going to be more vulnerable to other respiratory illnesses due to lack of exposure to them. This narrative seems to be undergoing a revival with SAGE and other so-called experts now formally stating this.

 

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/19387682.winter-flu-mean-lockdowns---readers-say/

 

Like you seem to imply above, I think Covid is flu rebranded. But I think there is a high chance that they will start using "flu" as a justification for restrictive measures as many people probably now think they are safe from Covid if they have been injected. Perhaps a new invisible enemy is needed which will keep the fear going and require more interventions to our controllers' liking.

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14 hours ago, Mitochondrial Eve said:

 

They started setting the stage for this when Chris Whitty announced at the very beginning of April that Covid was to be treated like flu. This was widely reported in the MSM including by the Guardian here. Many people said at the time that perhaps what Whitty really meant was that flu was to be treated like Covid with all the lockdowns, social distancing, vaccines etc that has come with the latter.

 

And, since at least March, the MSM has been making noises about how, due to lockdowns, people are now going to be more vulnerable to other respiratory illnesses due to lack of exposure to them. This narrative seems to be undergoing a revival with SAGE and other so-called experts now formally stating this.

 

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/19387682.winter-flu-mean-lockdowns---readers-say/

 

Like you seem to imply above, I think Covid is flu rebranded. But I think there is a high chance that they will start using "flu" as a justification for restrictive measures as many people probably now think they are safe from Covid if they have been injected. Perhaps a new invisible enemy is needed which will keep the fear going and require more interventions to our controllers' liking.

I think you're right here.

One of the problems with giving people two jabs and then a booster is it makes it a bit more difficult to justify more lockdowns unless you admit the 'vaccines' don't work or have made you more susceptible to other respiratory infections.

 

Reason I mention the Russian bird flu is that it was only earlier this year they reported the first ever transmission between humans. They also made a point of reporting how it's not as deadly as other bird flus but still really really dangerous lol. This fits the bill for continuing the agenda of reset and destruction of independent business without risking the anger of the masses too much.

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The only reason to prolong such a lockdown would be environmental. That is, some severe climate change. Logically though it would make more sense to be open rather than creating fake lockdowns. Other than climate, I see no advantage to a lockdown as the economy will erode. Which equates to a weak military in the face of China rising as a superpower.
As stated, I tend not to embrace conspiracy theories. These have been going since the Christians were blamed for the great fire of Rome. The concept is always that of a secret group that gains control by some co-ordinated plot. In this case, anything is possible but, beyond some global warming disaster looming, I see no gain from lockdowns, but rather total decline of infrastructure.
My good guess is, yes, flu will kill millions. Just normal flu that is. People have no immunity as they try to outsmart Darwinism by hiding from bacteria. What I see unfold is mass stupidity against a background of the king and his invisible suit syndrome. Bogus, mediocre scientists appear to have created this current mess on the basis of panic, over reaction and social delusion. Sadly politicians lapped it all up and the masses blindly followed to jump over a cliff.
Saw some very old friends on Sunday who had Covid. They were apparently pretty unwell for 3 weeks and no taste. Hearing their story, I guess there is a virus out there that hits some harder than others. However, my friends recovered and are now fine.

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I wondered today if the bottom line in all of this is Mother Nature herself. This new flu virus has exposed feeble mindedness and poor health in an overpopulated globe. It exposed how essentially stupid civilizations became. More so, those in power who make the most absurd decisions. If hospitals can't cope with an epidemic that would indicate an overall status of poor health linked to inactivity, smoking and junk food. That is, hospitals are straining to treat clogged arteries and diabetese as well as stress related illness. That started the panic, I think. I doubt people in the 1940s would have been remotely alarmed by a flu virus as compared to air raids and rationing. As a bit of a Darwinist, I tend to think Nature selects the fittest and discards the weakest but here we need to be careful. A disabled person can be more suited to survival on account of strong mental qualities or adaptability. Whereas a blond haired Adonis may well drop down dead over time through blind adherence to authority. And non exposure to bacteria. I think people who somehow feel they can cheat evolution and never get ill, over time will die through the common cold. That depends upon how long they continue to not engage with the natural environment - that is mechanised to kill off those of us who have no adaptation.





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On 6/23/2021 at 8:08 AM, CarpeDiem said:

I wonder what the chances are they are going to lock us down using the 'real' flu as a reason? Will they say it will overwhelm the NHS this year because people were not exposed to it last year (apparently!!!!)? They seem to be building up to something which involves the flu for this winter.

Yes. You’re spot on. 

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On 6/24/2021 at 8:20 AM, CarpeDiem said:

 

 

Carpe Diem - Re: Mikheil

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Mikheil Posted Wednesday at 09:41 PM Don't be fucking stupid. They are already doing it. What do you think changed?
On 6/24/2021 at 8:20 AM,CarpeDiem said:

You obviously did not

get my point

 

When someone is being rude and swearing and over simplfying as did Mikheil...Does anyone then really care to see their point too?.. Exactly, so just ignore it, their point instead just becomes about being rude.

 

Its not our fault covid has had us guessing and aims to make it so permanently.

Its a deliberate mess and its designed to confuse the doubters. 

Its not our fault it had been made or has been set up as covid but could likely be winter flu and/or could be a computer generated virus as D.I. points out to create the impression of a virus in reality based on real examples of viruses whereas covid remains no real to that end.

(I mean not a virus "of computers" but made with help from a PC to create the basis of how a fake virus can be fabricated  and how that looks in reality ALL AS PRE-PLANNED I THINK, so to my mind almost all are now just a fake circus as much they were predicted at the start, and what we get is a continued push for fake validity, over-embellishing and over-dramatizing in claimed impact, aside from maybe some bird/avian flu's). 

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Any mention of historic flu death rates has been met with absolute mockery.

 

It’ll be interesting to see how the average person reacts to seeing flu deaths be reported on this winter, as they’ve been conditioned to think the flu doesn’t kill anyone.

 

They’ll probably panic and beg for lockdowns.

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Some old friends of mine claim to have had this virus. From their account, they had a decent dose of whatever it was. However, bacteria is bound to evolve as centuries pass by. My friends likewise did not die. So, many protesters think there is a virus but consider there's a vast over-reaction. Others consider the whole thing a con. I now see numbers of protesters increasing. Many had the vaccine but are now getting doubts and grudgingly considering they were misled. I'm no longer a minority. 

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1 minute ago, Shining-one said:

Some old friends of mine claim to have had this virus. From their account, they had a decent dose of whatever it was. However, bacteria is bound to evolve as centuries pass by. 

 

How are you saying evolvement of bacteria is important to know? In relation to some vaccine?  How needy to know is this or about its effect? Bacteria is not virus is it..  

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Is bacteria and illness bad? Ever seen Fantastic Voyage? Great 1969 movie that shows how the body functions and defends itself from invaders. We associate bacteria and illness with just negativity but, overall, we gradually evolve adapted defence mechanisms.
The pro mask fraternity don't understand this. I find mask wearing was a symptom of hypochondria that goes back centuries. I view it as a delusional phenomenon associated with psychotic conditions, historically that is. What interests me is the cause. What triggered people in power to react with hysteria to new strains of virus? How on earth does "social distancing" magically rid us from illness? What are the long term repercussions in terms of evolution? Adaptability and survival?
I am happy to get any virus that comes my way and fight it off. The fact hardly any do is down to social distancing. That could spell longer term problems.

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some great points coming up in here, but my personal opinion is almost everything wrote above has a valid stance. add in the dimming of sunlight from 70s onward by a third I believe, which will naturally create more virulent strains of bacteria virus fungi etc. also add in the chem spraying which also added to the dimming effect dropping goodness knows what upon us barium strontium aluminum upon other things, now vaccination's from cradle to grave food which is not really food poisoned with chemicals pesticides, plus all YOUR furniture and chemicals in your home, now also add in the Environmental factors also car pollution I can carry on . so really some people have become toxic overloaded. add that to the powers that be pushing more and more people into more of a crowded space, add terror stress fear, and people not knowing how to defend themselves. i.e. balanced eating detoxing chelating or what NATURAL substances to turn to so they may balance themselves, mask wearing and deprivation of sunlight and lack of constant contact has blown there psyche apart they have disconnected from the natural spiritual selves. this is what we are seeing all around us and this has been in a drip drip mode for a long long time, its only just lately its been ramped up to gain maximum control. pure greed everywhere pharma DRS multinational corporation politicians the whole lot of them are whores. as for overpopulation I honestly cant fathom that as you could fit the whole world populous in Australia and still have plenty of room there as the rest of the planet lies empty. and I agree almost completely that its better to go outside and be amongst mother nature and in the muck and dirt and air borne pathogens THAT builds immunity. if you try to disconnect from that your dead or soon will be. I choose life even if there are no safe spaces, rather than fear which is half way to your grave. my tuppence worth 

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Human case of bird flu detected in the UK

A person living in the south-west of England has caught bird flu, UK officials have confirmed. 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59896821

The virus that the person caught is the H5 type that is found in birds, but it is not yet clear whether it is the same H5N1 strain that has been causing recent outbreaks in poultry that have then had to be culled.

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Could massive new bird flu outbreak become a deadly 2022 pandemic?

https://www.denisonforum.org/columns/daily-article/could-massive-new-bird-flu-outbreak-become-a-deadly-2022-pandemic/

 

Burkina Faso reports outbreak of H5N1 bird flu

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/burkina-faso-reports-outbreak-h5n1-bird-flu-2022-01-14/

 

Bulgaria culls 39,000 chickens after bird flu outbreak

https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/bulgaria-culls-39000-chickens-after-bird-flu-outbreak-2022-01-02/

 

New Dutch H5N1 bird flu outbreak will see 190,000 chickens culled

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Israel's Bird Flu Outbreak: Virus Passing on to Humans 'Not Just a Theoretical Possibility'

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/bird-flu-breakout-in-israel-unlikely-to-become-pandemic-experts-say-1.10505708

 

Bird Flu: The Start of Another Pandemic? Human Catches Bird Flu in the UK

https://www.peta.org.uk/blog/bird-flu/

 

 

 

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Ice Age Farmer takes a look at the similarities between the covid and bird flu narratives in the media and how it's being used as a continued attack on the worlds food supplies.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/xZllpp69tvz9/

 

Zoonotic transmission of an "apocalyptic bird flu," H5N1, has been reported in the UK, boasting a 50+% fatality rate for humans. However, digging deeper reveals that the asymptomatic "patient zero" was tested "constantly" until returning the result (false positive?) that authorities need to justify the ongoing culling of tens of millions of birds and claim that YOU cannot be allowed to raise your own animals to feed your family. Meanwhile, Australian grocers are rationing meat as asymptomatic workers are kept from work, resulting in abattoirs shutting down in Australia. How long will this test fraud scamdemic be allowed to continue? Until we stop it.

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Queen’s swans struck down with bird flu with vets having to cull 26 at Windsor

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/queens-swans-struck-down-bird-25974703

Government officials were called along with a vet to exterminate 26 of the majestic birds at a swan rescue centre and six other swans have been pulled lifeless from the River Thames

 

Isle of Man: 1st H5N1 avian influenza cases reported in geese

http://outbreaknewstoday.com/isle-of-man-1st-h5n1-avian-influenza-cases-reported-in-geese-86272/

Officials with the Isle of Man government are reporting the first H5N1 avian influenza cases in birds on the Island.

The Department of Environment, Food and Agriculture (DEFA) responded on Friday after a bird keeper in Sulby found 11 of his geese dead near a pond on his property.

 

Biosecurity needs revising as second avian flu wave threatens

https://www.fwi.co.uk/livestock/poultry/biosecurity-needs-revising-as-second-avian-flu-wave-threatens

Vets and poultry sector leaders have urged flock-keepers to redouble their efforts on biosecurity, with avian flu cases rising and a further surge in the virus expected imminently.

 

Could bird flu be the next world crisis?

https://www.israel21c.org/could-bird-flu-be-the-next-big-health-crisis/

Israel and other countries have been hit by the worst-ever bird flu outbreak. We asked the experts how it happened, what its impact will be, and if we should we be concerned for our health?

 

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