Where's all the food gone, bad news

[Truthspoon]

37 minutes ago, Pawson13 said:

A supplier of mine who imports those big white builders bags that carry sand and aggregates says that there is a shipping container shortage.

 

He says that at Felixstowe docks there are 11,000 (Eleven THOUSDAND) shipping containers full of PPE, owned by the government. They could be emptied into a warehouse to release those containers to use for food imports.

I wonder if THEY are deliberately keeping those containers full to cause the shortage, or indeed, they are full of anything at all.

 

 

Does anyone on here have any contacts at Felixstowe, that can confirm this?

 

 

 

You raise a good point. If there is a food or goods shortage then we will know is deliberately engineered.

 

This is exactly what the Soviets did to their white Christian population and they killed millions in this way.

 

Better be ready, the Commies are back and they hate you.

[Truthspoon]

On a side note, if you are planning on buying some luxury technology like a new laptop or top end digital camera buy it now or at the closest sale because I have seen prices raising and availability dwindling, not just in the UK but around the world.  This may be a result of the beer virus but expect it to become the new normal.

 

Need a new laptop? Too expensive to buy now, but you can rent one for a couple of hours.....really cheap.

 

"You will own nothing and you will be happy."

 

Sounds crazy but you can bet you're arse they'll try it on.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Saved]

On 6/21/2021 at 2:26 PM, Beaujangles said:

 

Yes, amazing... Ive been following a foragers group. The identification is likely the most important. Maybe you can put some finds in the thread?

We all know when we've found a stinging nettle. I was watching this one earlier today - it's an excellent channel.

 

 

[Grumpy Owl]

On 6/23/2021 at 9:50 PM, Basket Case said:

Imports of beef from the EU are to be cut 85% under Brexit, leaving Brits asking "Where's the beef?" and seeing absurdly high prices.

 

The interesting thing about this comment is that of all the beef products I either buy myself, or have seen in shops, I'd say the vast majority of them are made with 'British Beef' already. My understanding is that following the 'mad cow disease' fiasco some years ago, exports of British beef drastically reduced, which essentially meant that most beef produced in the UK is for the UK market alone.

 

I knew that Brexit was going to be an 'excuse' for supermarkets to start hiking up their prices, but I keep a watchful eye on products that come from the UK, as there shouldn't be any reason for those to be increasing in price because 'Brexit'.

 

I remember a while back where some supermarket was warning about the price of milk increasing, yet again if you look at most of the milk sold in this country, it is produced here in the UK.

 

Walkers Crisps also took some stick for similar warnings, despite proudly boasting that their crisps are made with British potatoes.

 

Brexit should have been a golden opportunity to revive the UK farming industry and get farmers producing again, instead of having farmland sat around doing nothing while landowners receive huge subsidies from the EU. We should NOT be importing produce that could be grown or reared in our own country.

 

But sadly, our glorious leaders do not share my own vision. This was our 'new post-Brexit farming policy':

Brexit: Ministers unveil next steps in England's farming policy

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England's countryside will radically change after the Brexit transition period, the government has confirmed.

There will be more trees, meadows and wetlands - and fewer sheep and cows as controversial EU farm subsidies are phased out.

Ministers say it represents the most fundamental shift in farming policy for 50 years.

Under the outgoing EU system, farmers got taxpayers' money based on the amount of land they farm.

So in many cases, that has meant the richer the farmers, the bigger the grant they get.

This scheme will be replaced in the UK when the post-Brexit transition period ends on 31 December.

The new system, named Environmental Land Management (ELM), will pay farmers if they prevent floods, plant woods and help wildlife.

from: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55102891 (November 2020)

 

Reading through the whole of that aricle, it doesn't read much as a 'farming policy', more 'land management' really. Also it doesn't mention about how farmers and landowners are being rewarded for turning their fields, pastures and meadows into solar farms. Not forgetting those wind turbines too.

 

I accept there will always be some types of produce that cannot be grown or reared in our country due to the temperate climate. But there are surely plenty of 'staples' that we can. Why do we import so much chicken and pork?

 

And don't get me started on fish...

[Grumpy Owl]

On 6/25/2021 at 10:11 AM, Pawson13 said:

A supplier of mine who imports those big white builders bags that carry sand and aggregates says that there is a shipping container shortage.

 

He says that at Felixstowe docks there are 11,000 (Eleven THOUSDAND) shipping containers full of PPE, owned by the government. They could be emptied into a warehouse to release those containers to use for food imports.

I wonder if THEY are deliberately keeping those containers full to cause the shortage, or indeed, they are full of anything at all.

 

 

Does anyone on here have any contacts at Felixstowe, that can confirm this?

 

 

 

At work, some of our suppliers are distributors who manufacture and import from the Far East.

 

One supplier owns their own shipping containers, and they've told us they've not encountered any major issues, but all their stuff comes into the UK via Southampton docks, the only problems they have are the capacity on the ships themselves.

 

Another of our suppliers has stuff come via Felixstowe. They suffered problems due to the Suez Canal 'incident'.

 

As for the 'containers full of PPE' well that doesn't surprise me, though I don't know if it is true or not. "Manufactured contrivance" is a phrase I'd use, especially when you keep hearing about how 'our NHS' is facing shortages of PPE.

 

One of our suppliers is an importer and distributor of PPE equipment, and throughout this pandemic they have virtue-signalled about how much PPE they have 'donated' to the NHS in order to 'help our heroes'.

 

I said right at the start of this pandemic, that the Chinese factories and manufacturers were geared right up to produce huge quantities of facemasks and other Covid-related paraphernalia. They've done quite nicely out of all this.

 

I recall a BBC News article a while back, even before the Suez Canal 'incident', where some woman was complaining about the increased cost of shipping containers meant that she was being 'forced' to put up her prices in order to prevent her from losing money.

 

Years ago, many product manufacturers outsourced their production to China because it was cheaper to manufacture there and then import, due to lower labour and production costs.

 

At what point do manufacturers sit up, start looking at figures, and then decide its actually more beneficial to start producing and manufacturing much closer to home again?

 

 

[Pawson13]

3 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

At work, some of our suppliers are distributors who manufacture and import from the Far East.

 

One supplier owns their own shipping containers, and they've told us they've not encountered any major issues, but all their stuff comes into the UK via Southampton docks, the only problems they have are the capacity on the ships themselves.

 

Another of our suppliers has stuff come via Felixstowe. They suffered problems due to the Suez Canal 'incident'.

 

As for the 'containers full of PPE' well that doesn't surprise me, though I don't know if it is true or not. "Manufactured contrivance" is a phrase I'd use, especially when you keep hearing about how 'our NHS' is facing shortages of PPE.

 

One of our suppliers is an importer and distributor of PPE equipment, and throughout this pandemic they have virtue-signalled about how much PPE they have 'donated' to the NHS in order to 'help our heroes'.

 

I said right at the start of this pandemic, that the Chinese factories and manufacturers were geared right up to produce huge quantities of facemasks and other Covid-related paraphernalia. They've done quite nicely out of all this.

 

I recall a BBC News article a while back, even before the Suez Canal 'incident', where some woman was complaining about the increased cost of shipping containers meant that she was being 'forced' to put up her prices in order to prevent her from losing money.

 

Years ago, many product manufacturers outsourced their production to China because it was cheaper to manufacture there and then import, due to lower labour and production costs.

 

At what point do manufacturers sit up, start looking at figures, and then decide its actually more beneficial to start producing and manufacturing much closer to home again?

 

 

I was saying this the other week. The demise of the high street might provide cottage industries to take their place.

People making and fixing stuff to hit back at the throw-away society.

Growers selling their produce. Crafters selling their wares.

Similar to any High Street in the 40's/50's.

Come on, bring it on!

Show these bastards that the un-vaxxed humans are more resilient than they ever thought!!

[Pawson13]

Another thing.

 

Saying that British made will mean more expensive goods. Well, how many people have bought cheap crap just because it's cheap, or a 'bargain' ?

Being savvy by buying what you really need might eliminate the difference in cost.

This nation can be self-sufficient and it's time to prove it.

 

[Macnamara]

They are even warning of food shortages in the mainstream press but they claim it is down to a shortage of drivers (stop furloughing people then) but the government could overcome that problem by using the army to take up the slack in the short term.

 

Food is clearly a method of control but to suddenly tighten the food supply risks creating food riots so i wonder if the government wants that and sees that as an outcome that can play into their hands for example by allowing them to justify declaring martial law, curfews, lockdowns and the locking up of dissidents

Supermarket shelves could be empty in food shortage within WEEKS after loss of 100,000 HGV drivers due to Covid and Brexit, industry chiefs warn

• Industry leaders have called for intervention to allow eastern European drivers back into the country on 'shortage occupation' lists to deal with potential issue 
• Comes as UK begins to reopen after lockdown and faces summer sport events 
• Government says it has met with industry leaders to discuss solutions to issue  

By Gemma Parry For Mailonline

Published: 11:04, 26 June 2021 | Updated: 11:28, 26 June 2021

British shoppers could face a summer of food shortages due to a shortage of more than 100,000 lorry drivers, experts have warned.

A double impact from Brexit and the coronavirus pandemic has sparked a staff shortages after Eastern European drivers returned home.  

And the disruption to the chilled food supply chain could result in shelves being empty of some items within weeks, industry insiders say.

In a letter to Prime Minister Boris Johnson, industry leaders have called for urgent intervention to allow eastern European drivers back into the country, similar to those issued to farm pickers, adding them to 'shortage occupation' lists. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9727775/Britain-facing-summer-food-shortage-loss-100-000-HGV-drivers-Covid-Brexit.html

 

[Daithi]

9 hours ago, Macnamara said:

They are even warning of food shortages in the mainstream press but they claim it is down to a shortage of drivers (stop furloughing people then) but the government could overcome that problem by using the army to take up the slack in the short term.

 

Food is clearly a method of control but to suddenly tighten the food supply risks creating food riots so i wonder if the government wants that and sees that as an outcome that can play into their hands for example by allowing them to justify declaring martial law, curfews, lockdowns and the locking up of dissidents

Supermarket shelves could be empty in food shortage within WEEKS after loss of 100,000 HGV drivers due to Covid and Brexit, industry chiefs warn

• Industry leaders have called for intervention to allow eastern European drivers back into the country on 'shortage occupation' lists to deal with potential issue 
• Comes as UK begins to reopen after lockdown and faces summer sport events 
• Government says it has met with industry leaders to discuss solutions to issue  

By Gemma Parry For Mailonline

Published: 11:04, 26 June 2021 | Updated: 11:28, 26 June 2021

British shoppers could face a summer of food shortages due to a shortage of more than 100,000 lorry drivers, experts have warned.

A double impact from Brexit and the coronavirus pandemic has sparked a staff shortages after Eastern European drivers returned home.  

And the disruption to the chilled food supply chain could result in shelves being empty of some items within weeks, industry insiders say.

In a letter to Prime Minister Boris Johnson, industry leaders have called for urgent intervention to allow eastern European drivers back into the country, similar to those issued to farm pickers, adding them to 'shortage occupation' lists. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9727775/Britain-facing-summer-food-shortage-loss-100-000-HGV-drivers-Covid-Brexit.html

 

 

 

More Daily Mail fear porn IMHO. Like the endless stories of snowmageddon throughout winter that never actually occur.

 

But after March 2020 onwards, I'll certainly not be completely dismissive and will be paying closer attention to anything like this because shit gets real very quickly these days...

[Macnamara]

3 hours ago, Daithi said:

More Daily Mail fear porn IMHO

 

I'm not going to dismiss the food shortage claims out of hand. I listened to a clip on bitchute last night of kate shemirami talking to an indian chap at the london protest and he is from a farming family that has family connections across many countries and he is saying that various governments are deliberately sabotaging the food supply lines and that there is food rotting in warehouses

 

Food is the number one survival consideration in summer time, perhaps even above and beyond shelter which is usually held up as the first key survival consideration because shelter can always be improvised in summer time but without food you are dead within 2 weeks

 

So orchestrated food scarcity gives the cabal the kind of leverage they would love to have over the populace in terms of imposing rationing which they have discussed in the form of for example carbon credits or digital universal basic income. They would love to ration food and control peoples energy and nutrition levels through that. Its the ultimate power trip and feeds into their technocratic wet dream

[itsnotallrightjack]

On 6/19/2021 at 12:12 PM, Grumpy Owl said:

Its pure propaganda.

 

The millions of unemployed in the UK could be filling these jobs, however most of them are still terrified of leaving their homes or being around other people.

 

Its about cementing the narrative that we 'need more migration', and that we should be opening the borders to let all and sundry in.

 

Its about softening people up to the notion that we "must rejoin the EU" and that will somehow solve all our problems.

 

You are spot on Grumpy Owl! There's loads of unemployed blokes looking for work, who'd do these jobs. Maybe even women who would too!  In fact I get notifcations in my DWP journal about jobs for drivers (can't drive myself so no good for me). 

 

 

[itsnotallrightjack]

On 6/19/2021 at 12:22 PM, eddy64 said:

probably get the army in to drive the food  trucks,  don't think there would be enough unemployed with hgv and the other necessary paperwork to drive them imho.

 

could also be an opportunity to push through legislation for self driving hgv's,  don't think that idea is too popular with the public.

 

 

 

https://news.sky.com/story/tesco-admits-exposure-to-hgv-driver-shortage-as-hauliers-warn-of-supply-crisis-12335508

 

Job centres are offering to help drivers get the HGV.

[itsnotallrightjack]

On 6/23/2021 at 9:43 PM, Incontinentia_Buttux said:

Where are you getting this information from?  I work in the food industry can can tell you for a fact that there is no shortage of food in the UK.  Some food manufacturers are only producing at half capacity because DEMAND from supermarkets is so LOW... it's not the other way around!

 

Yes, last year it was reported tonnes of food was being dumped because of all the shut restaurants and hotels! 

[itsnotallrightjack]

On 6/24/2021 at 6:02 PM, Itsjaybigjay said:

I needed to get potatoes today I usually get a 7.5 Kg sack for just over £2 from a local independent supermarket. all they had where new potato s in little packs for nearly £2, so i went to Aldi which is the only big supermarket i use. Same story there, all they had where the expensive ones in small packs. unfortunately the earliest of my own crop are a couple of months off of harvest yet. least if things do get worse later in the year I'm pretty sorted for veg.

 

Wishing you well with your spuds! Loads of bags of spuds in my local Lidl and Tesco. Lidl, very cheap too. Also got an independent organic shop where they get their produce from a local farm.

[itsnotallrightjack]

On 6/25/2021 at 10:52 AM, Truthspoon said:

On a side note, if you are planning on buying some luxury technology like a new laptop or top end digital camera buy it now or at the closest sale because I have seen prices raising and availability dwindling, not just in the UK but around the world.  This may be a result of the beer virus but expect it to become the new normal.

 

Need a new laptop? Too expensive to buy now, but you can rent one for a couple of hours.....really cheap.

 

"You will own nothing and you will be happy."

 

Sounds crazy but you can bet you're arse they'll try it on.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ebay is full of reconditioned laptops and tablets. I got a laptop that way last year and a tablet last week that way. Both very cheap and work great. 

[itsnotallrightjack]

21 hours ago, Saved said:

We all know when we've found a stinging nettle. I was watching this one earlier today - it's an excellent channel.

 

 

 

My back yard is full of the little buggers! I put on gardening gloves and pulled them up as they were taking over and stinging my legs when I went to get my bicycle.

[itsnotallrightjack]

15 hours ago, Pawson13 said:

I was saying this the other week. The demise of the high street might provide cottage industries to take their place.

People making and fixing stuff to hit back at the throw-away society.

Growers selling their produce. Crafters selling their wares.

Similar to any High Street in the 40's/50's.

Come on, bring it on!

Show these bastards that the un-vaxxed humans are more resilient than they ever thought!!

 

Exactly what we need. There's loads of sellers on Ebay who fix up electronic stuff like laptops, tablets, TVs and sell them at much cheaper prices. It's where I always go if I need something like that. Bartering is also good. Grow veg in your garden? Exchange it with a neighbour for walking your dog for example.

[itsnotallrightjack]

5 hours ago, Daithi said:

 

 

More Daily Mail fear porn IMHO. Like the endless stories of snowmageddon throughout winter that never actually occur.

 

But after March 2020 onwards, I'll certainly not be completely dismissive and will be paying closer attention to anything like this because shit gets real very quickly these days...

 

They were saying last year that Brexit would mean no more peppers and tomatoes in the supermarkets. Yet my local Lidl and Tesco always had them there. Doom porn as usual.

[shadowmoon]

Speaking to people today who were saying they noticed shortages, but I try to avoid going to supermarkets lately.

 

 

[itsnotallrightjack]

6 hours ago, shadowmoon said:

Speaking to people today who were saying they noticed shortages, but I try to avoid going to supermarkets lately.

 

 

 

Probably people stockpiling again.

[masonfreeparty2]

2 hours ago, itsnotallrightjack said:

 

Probably people stockpiling again.

id say its because of the crazy weather across the globe due to the grand solar minimum kicking in now

[shadowmoon]

4 hours ago, itsnotallrightjack said:

 

Probably people stockpiling again.

I did read last night about lack of drivers, but even that sounds like a sorry tale.

I think we are about to be starved en masse?

[Truthspoon]

On 6/27/2021 at 5:03 PM, itsnotallrightjack said:

 

Job centres are offering to help drivers get the HGV.

 

I've already got a profession but I would love to be a HGV driver. Got my tunes, got my pro-plus and got my blessed solitude driving into the night... fucking awesome.

 

I wouldn't mind that at all. My grandad was a truck driver and my uncles were all deep sea fisherman. They were hard jobs but they were always minted.. 

 

There got to be a thing where those jobs were looked down on....more fool us really..... good honest jobs where you're helping your people delivering or catching food is worth 100 of the filth in universities poisoning the minds of the next generation.

[Daithi]

How much of this whole narrative is actually just a cover story for the 4th Industrial Revolution's "AI" tech anyway. That's as in "Absolutely Fucking Inept" garbage that works amazingly in a contrived sales demo but couldn't manage it's way out of a logistics wet paper bag.

 

I worked in tech for too many years across many different industries. Didn't do too much in supply chain systems but one contract within the last 10 years for one of the well known logistics companies told me that while they could buzz word bingo their way through endless pointless meetings they couldn't actually organise the proverbial piss up in a brewery. The continuing demise of the retailer in question tells me my hunch is spot on and nothing has improved since I turned on my heels and legged it away from the fiasco.

 

As these bajillion square foot uber warehouses take over we are stretching way beyond what feeble humans can sensibly manage. But much ego stroking can be had from the "important" people who manage this farce. Plus the good ol' finance cabals can coin it in big time over and over with the convoluted financing of these monstrosities.

 

Not to mention the liberal dosing of total dehumanisation of any poor saps unfortunate enough to bag a slave contract working in these miserable modern day workhouses.

Edited June 28, 2021 by Daithi
typo

[elongated1]

wow, listen to this.

Food purposefully allowed to rot in the tracks.

Don't let the supply chain break.