The Deciding Question

[Shining-one]

I for one will not be having this vaccine for reasons I repeat in public, when asked. I get an awful lot of people respond that they want to go on holidays, so have no choice. I very calmly just point out appeasement is pretty much a blind alley. A person without backbone or principle becomes merely a victim. I doubt the people who fought Nazism in 1939 worried over missed holidays.
The bottom line is I made my choice. I wonder though how many people will be in my camp ultimately. To make a principled decision means to take that path no matter what, and to prepare to go it alone if you have to. Besides, should people be isolated from civic rights on the basis of a vaccine makes you wonder what the vaccine has in it.
I guess I'm not overly worried. I have in the past learned to get by on my own, which means not depending upon a system. The main disadvantage most people have is for years they've been programmed to "depend" upon systems, schools, employment, reputation. It's pumped out via the phoney "likes culture" on American internet where we're supposed to court favour and play to the gallery. Yet the truth is the system delivers very little and is a busted flush. It mostly offers negativity, defeat and feeble-mindedness. Personally, the less I depend upon it the better.
At a guess, people in my group will probably be around 20 per cent of the population. I expect more restrictions to creep in by stealth but as I so often repeat - it just pushes me even further away from any vaccine.
The truth is these days people start to put me on a pedastal as many regret having complied. You get this feeling they wish they could make a stand but feel they cannot. Yet, they can and should.

[TetraG]

2 hours ago, Shining-one said:

I doubt the people who fought Nazism in 1939 worried over missed holidays. 

 

 

They were just busy.

 (my colossal understatement) 

I agree though. 

 

People in lockdown by contrast, are just busy being servile idiots. Sorry but you know its true.

At minimum, sad misguided people in need of a suspicion antenna, and some way of averting a barrage of mind shrinkage by too much consumer compulsion. Via TV adverts, news, etc. 

 

2 hours ago, Shining-one said:

It's pumped out via the phoney "likes culture" on American internet where we're supposed to court favour and play to the gallery. Yet the truth is the system delivers very little and is a busted flush. 

 

Its okay I'll call the plumber to fix these two problems!   You have likened the foul smelling system to a broken toilet?  Your words right? 

And "like culture".. Oh my gosh have you seen my post on that yet. I made a true satire post on that in your recent other. You HAVE TO read that S.O!!   you might dare I say,  laugh!!! 

 

2 hours ago, Shining-one said:

The truth is these days people start to put me on a pedastal as many regret having complied. You get this feeling they wish they could make a stand but feel they cannot.

Yet, they can and should.

 

Indeed. Very indeed.. Far too much to put into words in any embellished way.. So draining to do that.. Especially on this subject, but I am not close to my family so it matters less from that viewpoint!

 

Except as I already pointed out in your recent other thread I am not impressed by a friend who's had it. But I am not giving them a hard time for it either. No point when being too busy myself.  Why waste my time on a deed irreversible?? 

(I don't wanna be harsh to them necessarily, just I'm done talking, and not all friends are destined to last anyway) 

 

Makes you wonder don't they the mass servile acquiessing  people, ever stumble over something on the web ever in their entire lives that could show to be revealing to them or different or something with a spine. Perhaps even a fossilized spine when times comes to pass. 

 

No, seriously, people genuine in their quest to help quosh fear and what should give "unassuming" people (putting it mildly) their first epiphany moment on the path to freedom.

 

What might they find... 

Alternative, truthlihood. 

Conscientious objectors... Anything NOT "quite" THE NORM!!?   How hard can it be for people to open their eyes hearts and minds, to throw off standing for nothing and to see an example of others standing for something, because of course without standing for something, they fall for anything! 

 

 

 

PS,  VARIED WAYS OF MAKING HEADS TURN AND BE AWE STRUCK BY!! ... by visual communication in public areas where people in need of seeing can see posters etc... so with a certain amount of discretion spread information to brandish on walls, etc should be a deed all of us are prepared to do for informing those still unvaccinated.. Some people might even be worth saving, once they realize the dark ideas of the deep state. But before that just a few basic truths of caution so as not to make them go-> "oh thats tosh,  too freaky,  too extreme" <-they will likely say, but use something of moderate shock value and LITERATE. My advice to people sending out flyer or pasting posters all around. I AM LATE DOING MY PART HERE.  

Edited June 15, 2021 by TetraG

[TetraG]

12 hours ago, Shining-one said:

At a guess, people in my group will probably be around 20 per cent of the population.

 

Dear compatriot (excuse the formal overtones dear giver of light & comprehension transliteration into oneness and kindliness, to be who you be, and who I be in spite of evil in plain sight and by stealth out of sight),

 

So let me say again if it would be thy honor, r-EVOLutionary origin of 'dink-namow' (namesake of mankind more commonly known- sexist apologistically) in celebration of anyone even remotely a diaspora compatriot ...

(I'm not saying you're a feminist and it wouldn't matter if you were, just some word play!) ---  Diaspora, big words aside, now... 

 

The important bit:-

I'll settle even for that 20% at the rate things are going...

 

*Mankind* included if certain men people too use their brains. 

If not I will not "MENschen"  it again, lol. 

I am like non binary to a degree on that. True. 

 

In short~ I am happily in your camp. 

Edited June 15, 2021 by TetraG

[Shining-one]

I believe there's a good chance the global population won't just be reduced by 20 years, but may practically go back to pre-history as the decades pass. Very much as if H.G.Wells got his science fiction right.
I somehow find modern civilization and populations to lack the raw, survival instincts required to survive as a species on this planet. This may sound cruel and even judgemental but, every day, I see people around who are in pretty horrendous physical shape, as well as feeble-minded. By "feeble-minded" I mean lacking the kind of intelligence and aggression nature demands of all of us. This is shown by fear-avoidance, hyperchondria, social delusion and hysteria. Put simply, a social mental health breakdown, coupled with lack of challenge and will to fight and earn the asset of life. Just as H.G.Wells warned decades ago in his fiction.
What's interesting is to take a look at wildlife in general. At my local park, geese and ducks are positively thriving and somehow you can sense they "feel" some change is ahead. People sit and walk by masked up in fear, apprehensive, physically falling well short of the health and strength nature intended us to possess. A very far cry from the mentally and physically tough populations that survived hunger, air-raids and WW2.
Internet is very much to blame but I think cable TV and mass automation of lifestyle started the ball rolling. Poor diet, fast food, inertia - and now hours spent each day on the dreaded Facebook (which makes sure nobody ever posts material that disagrees with State propaganda). Personally, I wonder why these State regulated mouthpieces are patronised - I hate to encourage media that censors and bans "dissent".
A lot of people here so many times raised the question as to how come we witnessed such a pathetic level of compliance as the masses risk their life and health over a rushed, and possibly dangerous vaccine. Well, there you have it - H.G.Wells saw it coming. Harsh as it may sound Mother Nature through Darwinism stamps out weakness and selects strength. Otherwise, no species on this planet would survive. I remain convinced within the space of possibly 20 years, most human beings will have no immunity or resistance to viruses that may accelerate the more immunity falls.
Is there any hope? For some of us, yes. That depends upon strict non compliance, determination to be like pioneers and facing life head on.

[Shining-one]

Tetra G - welcome to the 25 per cent. Who knows maybe the figure is greater.
I was told today one anti-vax friend is off work and presumably caught Covid. The hint was I would be next. Thus far, I haven't heard the other side of the story. This friend has had heart ops and suffers diabetese. She was therefore at risk but she decided by herself not to have the vaccine. I will try to find out more. Chances are she caught a basic cold bug and will be back at work soon.