David Icke's claim that 'there is no virus'?

[evanslr]

Research Stefan Lanka as well as Andew Kaufman. Below is a small article that suggests that COVID may not exist. 

 

https://chipstero7.wordpress.com/2021/03/30/the-covid-scamdemic/

[DarianF]

[Nobby Noboddy]

17 hours ago, GeoffB said:

SARS-CoV-2 has been isolated in the same way that all other viruses for the past 150 years have been isolated which is not a particularly satisfactory method.

Therefore to some it is proof that viruses do not exist. We then get in to the realms of Germ Theory v Terrain Theory.

Yes the CDC is a totally corrupt organisation and their failings should be exposed.

However, if you are trying to convince medical, scientific, virology and epidemiology experts that 150 years of science and medicine has been wrong for the past 150 years they are going to dismiss you out of hand.

The sensible approach is to agree that SARS-CoV-2 exists and argue that it and the Global Cult's response to it is to subjugate humanity. This was David Icke's approach in 2009 when he said the Global Cult will deliberately expose humanity to a man made virus.

David Icke has made a mistake now by promoting the very fringe idea that SARS-CoV-2 does not exist and by extension no other virus exists and has brought ridicule on the anti-lockdown and anti-Global Cult movement.

The 'not (a) particularly satisfactory method' is that method that involves at LOT of coaching for anything to happen. Stephan Lenka(?) recently, under strict clinical conditions, showed that the very method itself for identifying viruses CREATES what they identify as viruses. Using identical protocols, one with so-called virus and one TOTALLY DEVOID of anything. He then did what they do.

 

The realms of Germ v. Terrain theories is worth entering. You won't find many 'germs' though.

 

We only need to convince humanity at large for this crime to be finished. Not 'experts'. No-one gets through without vetting - fuck experts.

 

The sensible approach is to realise that we're running out of time as they jab, jab, jab that goo into everyone and get ready.

 

We all make mistakes and I'm pretty sure David has weathered (as we all have, and so should all) some ridicule before (understatement).

 

Forget the 'movements', they're controlled. They HAVE to be, it would be careless not to. Think for yourself, act as yourself and bring others towards the truth.

 

BTW your posts exhibit some slightly suspect aspects. Just saying, that's all.

 

 

 

[Brad the lad]

For me dwelling on proof of existence or non existence is a pointless exercise. Figures help you find your truth but you shouldn't need to look in a book or at a screen for your conclusion. Use your senses with a fearless outlook and they will guide you well.

 

Think back to the start and your gut told you it's all BULLSHIT.

 

Even the BBC cult sheep knew it back then but they have been trained to ignore the gut and pay attention to a screen.

 

My Dad had a very nasty illness at the start of 2019 (trouble breathing). I also had another relative later in the year with very bad symptoms. Both said they had never been that ill before.......Both came out of it with their immunity and nothing else. I have another very close relative who has been critical in  hospital twice several years back (once for an ear infection and once for a throat infection). She had a very compromised immunity at the time and I can tell you this for nothing.......

 

You don't need Covid (flu) to kill you when your immunity is out of balance because a sore throat will do it!!!

 

When someone is that weak then no mask, vaccine (poison) , social distance or any other bollocks will save them. The shear will to live, diet, some luck, exercise, clean water, faith, herbs, love and courage will though.....and staying the fuck away from the NHS helps too.

 

 

[GeoffB]

At the beginning of 2020 I too thought there was no virus and they were just redesignating deaths from flu, pneumonia etc. as Covid.

However, after a number of months the mortality figures from all causes increased to be the worst for many years. Even when you adjust the figures for population changes the UK all mortality figures are the worst since 2008.

Something was killing those people even though they were elderly and many with comorbidities. Yes lockdown and fear would have caused many deaths but not the numbers we have seen.

Therefore it is obvious that there is a virus which is similar to a bad flu season.

What has been weaponised by the Global Cult is the fear to bring in draconian measures. 

Covid is not particularly deadly. Before the Covid era the average age at death was 82. Now during the Covid era it is still around 82.

With David Icke and others insisting that there is no virus shows a lack of understanding of mortality figures.

Why on earth would the Global Cult NOT release a new virus to bring in a "reset"?

For the Global Cult to just rely on a hoax is absolutely ridiculous when they have many "real" viruses they can choose from.

Not having a real virus would risk being detected by the sheer number of doctors, scientists, virologists, epidemiologists etc. etc. With a real virus it is easier to control the media.

If the Global Cult want a total reset why has Sweden, Florida, Texas etc. etc. taken a different path to lockdowns?

I was in full agreement with David Ickes dot connecting video today apart from his notion that the virus is not real because the all cause mortality figures are much higher than previous years so it must be real. And his failure to explain why countries and states like Sweden, Florida and Texas are NOT adhering to the Global Cults agenda of lockdowns.

I also agree with David that it is the vaccine which could end up being more dangerous than Covid.

[DrCornwallis]

9 hours ago, Nobby Noboddy said:

Simply because there isn't one. Never has been. It's a fiction.

 

What they say are 'viruses' are not.

 

People get ill because of weak and compromised immune systems, toxic environments, poisoned processed food, adulterated water, lack of sunshine, fresh air and exercise, loneliness, a stunted mentality which makes them believe anything and plenty of other things.

 

They don't get ill because they breath in a bug or virus from someone else's sneeze.

 

And what the fuck does fkn mean?

 

Funny that, cos when my daughter was between 18 months - 3 years old, she would pick up loads of coughs n sneezes, and splutter all over me, and then I would get them as well...

 

....must have been all her bad karma (evils from previous lives no doubt) making her ill, and then altering my own energetic field making me ill.

 

What else could it be?

 

Definitely not nasty little bugs that she was infected with and spreading all over me! That is just propaganda from the mainstream media.

 

 

[Thoth001]

This is a kind of bombshell here:

 

In Response to Freedom of Information Act Requests: CDC Admits There Is No ‘Gold Standard’ for the Isolation of ANY Virus

 

by Robert O. Young DSc, PhD, Naturopathic Practitioner
 

June 13, 2021

Over the last several months we have requested from the Center of Disease Control (CDC) evidence for the isolation and existence for the any and all viruses, including CoV – 2 and 19, MERS, Influenza, Polio, Measles, HIV, XMRV, HTLV-1, HTLV-III/LAV, HPV, Ebola, Zika, just to name a few of the so-called viruses, disclosed under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).

 

These written requests were made by Ms. Christine Massey to CDC/ATSDR FOIA Chief Officer Mr. Robert Andoh, to locate and deliver ANY records, research and/or findings for ANY “viral” isolation and purification (by anyone, anywhere, anytime in the World) from a patient sample via maceration, filtration and/or the use of an ultracentrifuge or what is called the ‘Gold Standard’ for isolating and identifying a pathological micro or nana organism. The ‘Gold Standard’ for isolating and identifying microbes is referred to as Koch’s and Rivers Postulates which was established many years ago.

 

The CDC Chief FOIA, Mr. Roger Andoh provided straightforward responses to each one of our requests, admitting in writing that they have NO RECORD of ANY KIND, for the following so-called phantom “viruses”, including CoV – 2 -19, HIV, HPV, XMRV, HTMV-1, HTMV-111/LV, Measles, Influenza, MERS, EBOLA, ZIKA, POLIO:

 

1. June 7, 2021: CDC admits they have no record of any “COV – 2 or 19 virus” purified from any patient sample via maceration, filtration and use of an ultracentrifuge, by anyone, anywhere, ever:

 

2. June 7, 2021: CDC admits they have no record of any “HPV virus” purified from any patient sample via maceration, filtration and use of an ultracentrifuge, by anyone, anywhere, ever: (note: CDC made an error in their original response and later provided the corrected version below):

 

3. June 7, 2021: CDC admits they have no record of any “Measles virus” purified from any patient sample via maceration, filtration and use of an ultracentrifuge, by anyone, anywhere, ever! No Isolation, No Purification and No Identification for the Measles Virus!

 

Read full article with all the information:

 

https://www.drrobertyoung.com/post/cdc-now-admits-no-gold-standard-for-the-isolation-for-any-virus?utm_campaign=4ced834f-05c3-4822-aeb2-7ba9c495c8b7&utm_source=so&utm_medium=mail&cid=a3f68e09-9a4c-4eb4-87f0-338b9e400bc9

 

 

https://truthcomestolight.com/in-response-to-freedom-of-information-act-requests-cdc-admits-there-is-no-gold-standard-for-the-isolation-of-any-virus/

 

[Thoth001]

8 hours ago, DrCornwallis said:

 

Funny that, cos when my daughter was between 18 months - 3 years old, she would pick up loads of coughs n sneezes, and splutter all over me, and then I would get them as well...

 

....must have been all her bad karma (evils from previous lives no doubt) making her ill, and then altering my own energetic field making me ill.

 

What else could it be?

 

Definitely not nasty little bugs that she was infected with and spreading all over me! That is just propaganda from the mainstream media.

 

 

It may be the toxins you and your daughter were both ingesting and breathing in. 

 

As an example, say you went into an area where there was a nuclear fall out and you didn't know about it.. Both you and your daughter would get sick. You may think it is some contagion because you both got it when it was really a nuclear substance in the air that made yous both sick and not a so called contagious virus.

 

You must realize we are being bombarded with toxins everyday from the air we breath and the food we eat and the water we drink, among many other things. So think about that.

 

Or how about this one, Why is it when woman are around together for long periods of time, they start getting their menstrual cycles at the same time? Do we consider menstrual cycles to be contagious?

Edited June 19, 2021 by Thoth001
correction

[Pabloisawake]

18 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

As David says they don't actually need a virus, they only need a perception of a virus

 

The real bioweapon is the jabs and if they can convince to you to have the jab then that is mission accomplished for them

 

When people start to die due to the jabs effects they can then blame it on a virus which some people perceive to be real

 

The perception of a virus is now the perfect thing for the cabal to hide all their crimes behind. They can damage someone with an influenza vaccine through 'molecular mimicry' and then blame it on 'covid'. They can roll out 5G and watch as it shatters public health and then blame it all on 'covid'. They can roll out experimental mRNA gene therapy injections onto the populace and when people get sick they can blame it on 'covid variants'

 

...and it will work because many people perceive the virus to be real

Exactly. That is why they leaked the fake emails to make consevratived in the U.S think the virus is real and made in a lab. Some of the elite still want war with China.

[Ynot Hump]

11 hours ago, GeoffB said:

Yes lockdown and fear would have caused many deaths but not the numbers we have seen.

The deaths are caused by suicide, alcohol related deaths, drug overdose and countless other psychological related causes.

 

It's a manipulative, deliberate, psychological, fascistic, tyrannical beatdown of the human race and nothing more.

 

They know exactly what they are doing.

 

This is, by design, the enslavement of the human race and it is designed to continue until the damage is done they need to inflict.

 

You can use all the excuses under the sun to say there is a virus but the hard fact remains that there isn't one and there doesn't have to be.

 

When you think about it all this shit show is about is a fucking pcr test. Take away that test and there is no 'virus'.

 

Why anyone with a brain cell goes to get tested when they have no er.. errmm 'symptoms' is still beyond me?

[Ethel]

15 hours ago, DrCornwallis said:

Funny that, cos when my daughter was between 18 months - 3 years old, she would pick up loads of coughs n sneezes, and splutter all over me, and then I would get them as well...

 

....must have been all her bad karma (evils from previous lives no doubt) making her ill, and then altering my own energetic field making me ill.

 

What else could it be?

 

Definitely not nasty little bugs that she was infected with and spreading all over me! That is just propaganda from the mainstream media.

 

Nobody mentioned karma, so it's interesting you have. You act as though you have no control over whether you get ill or not. You do understand you have control over that, right? You have an immune system. You can choose to put good, healthy, organic food in your body, or disgusting, chemical-laden, processed shite. There is a choice, you possess free will. 

 

I've heard it said that even being vaccinated with the MMR vaccine blows the door open wide to invite in a plethora of disgusting childhood illnesses. If you and your child are becoming ill, perfect your diet to the greatest degree possible, optimize your vitamin intake, including vitamin D, and change some of your dysfunctional beliefs regarding health in general, before you end up passing those dysfunctional thoughts onto another generation.

 

YOU are in control of your diet, your body, your immune system, and ultimately, whether you get ill. Stop acting as though it's just some random event. That retarded passivity is why the human race is in this godawful shitty mess we're in.

[GeoffB]

5 hours ago, Ynot Hump said:

The deaths are caused by suicide, alcohol related deaths, drug overdose and countless other psychological related causes.

Some are but the vast majority are caused by SARS-CoV-2 which like every other virus under the sun is difficult to isolate and like all other viruses does not conform to Koch's Postulates.

David Icke and some of his followers have been seduced by Kaufman et al who are snake oil salesmen with books to sell to the gullible.

[Ethel]

15 hours ago, DrCornwallis said:

 

Funny that, cos when my daughter was between 18 months - 3 years old, she would pick up loads of coughs n sneezes, and splutter all over me, and then I would get them as well...

 

I've literally just realized that you're repeating yourself over and over again in this thread. Way back at the beginning of it, you were saying the exact same things you're saying now, despite having had multiple eloquent insights from various forum member, including myself.

 

I wonder, are you deliberately trying to drain people's energy by having them go round and round in circles?

 

Either way, I am going to avoid this thread, because I am literally giving my energy away trying to convince people who either can't be convinced, won't be, or are only interested in wasting the time and energy of people who have seen through the colossal ruse of the past year.

 

I'd strongly advise others to do the same. Stop giving your energy to people who refuse to complete their awakening process; it is folly.

[Grumpy Owl]

17 hours ago, DrCornwallis said:

Funny that, cos when my daughter was between 18 months - 3 years old, she would pick up loads of coughs n sneezes, and splutter all over me, and then I would get them as well...

 

....must have been all her bad karma (evils from previous lives no doubt) making her ill, and then altering my own energetic field making me ill.

 

What else could it be?

 

Programming and conditioning.

 

If you have lived your whole life truly believing that if someone has a cold and 'coughs and splutters' near you and you will catch it, then you will.

 

Because that is what you have been conditioned to believe.

 

The mind responds in truly remarkable ways. Early last year (January 2020), both my colleagues at work came down with some really bad cold or flu, and they ended up having a couple of days off. Despite coughing, sneezing and spluttering all over the place at work, remarkably I didn't get affected at all and carried on as normal.

 

Perhaps it was a coincidence that I had just recently come across German New Medicine, and somehow my own conditioning and programming had somehow been 'broken'?

 

 

 

[Nobby Noboddy]

17 hours ago, DrCornwallis said:

 

Funny that, cos when my daughter was between 18 months - 3 years old, she would pick up loads of coughs n sneezes, and splutter all over me, and then I would get them as well...

 

....must have been all her bad karma (evils from previous lives no doubt) making her ill, and then altering my own energetic field making me ill.

 

What else could it be?

 

Definitely not nasty little bugs that she was infected with and spreading all over me! That is just propaganda from the mainstream media.

 

 

Resonance.

 

Like when groups of women live together their menstrual cycles synchronise.

 

Humans resonate with each other. It's in the same realm as when you meet someone and they give you the creeps.

 

Do 'I' get a like Truthspoon? or is that only for the regiment.

 

And it sounds like you had a slightly unhealthy environment if your youngster was 'getting' loads of coughs n sneezes (which don't spread diseezes).

 

My children rarely got 'colds', never got 'flu' nor had any serious illnesses - we did get mumps and some measles thank God because they became immune.

 

Why is that? Not because of vaccination - we wouldn't let them be stabbed and poisoned.

 

 

Edited June 19, 2021 by Nobby Noboddy
addition.

[Anti Facts Sir]

David Icke didn't say that viruses (virii?) don't exist. He said that this "coronavirus" - that has been used to destroy society, change humanity, and all sorts of other wonderful things to do with Agenda21, The Great Rest and Uncle Tom Cobbly's New World - doesn't exist.

 

And he's right. Not a single thing since Feb 2020 has emerged to change that.

[Thoth001]

15 hours ago, GeoffB said:

Some are but the vast majority are caused by SARS-CoV-2 which like every other virus under the sun is difficult to isolate and like all other viruses does not conform to Koch's Postulates.

David Icke and some of his followers have been seduced by Kaufman et al who are snake oil salesmen with books to sell to the gullible.

 

Did you know the original snake oil salesman Rockefeller helped in creating the Pharma industry we are now terrorized under?

[Thoth001]

15 hours ago, GeoffB said:

Some are but the vast majority are caused by SARS-CoV-2 which like every other virus under the sun is difficult to isolate and like all other viruses does not conform to Koch's Postulates.

David Icke and some of his followers have been seduced by Kaufman et al who are snake oil salesmen with books to sell to the gullible.

Meet William Rockefeller, Snake Oil Salesman

 

https://www.corbettreport.com/meet-william-rockefeller-snake-oil-salesman/

 

That is the sinister turn of the modern snake oil salesmen. They not only try to sell us their phoney cures for our cancers, they give us the cancer itself, the cancer of complete dependence on their system, their resources, their corporations. This is the trick by which John D. and the Rockefeller dynasty and all of their ilk have transformed themselves from two-bit peddlers of phoney cure-alls to multi-trillionaire controllers of our economic reality.

[GeoffB]

1 hour ago, Thoth001 said:

Did you know the original snake oil salesman Rockefeller helped in creating the Pharma industry we are now terrorized under?

As a fully paid up member of the David Icke fan club yes I did.

I agree with 99% of what David has written and is now saying but NOT that the SARS-CoV-2 virus does not exist.

[Thoth001]

3 hours ago, GeoffB said:

As a fully paid up member of the David Icke fan club yes I did.

I agree with 99% of what David has written and is now saying but NOT that the SARS-CoV-2 virus does not exist.

The problem is that is has not been proven to exist. You are only believing in it out of faith and what you are told by the pharma cartel, gov and msm.

 

Here is just one example of the many I have:

 

In Response to Freedom of Information Act Requests: CDC Admits There Is No ‘Gold Standard’ for the Isolation of ANY Virus

 

 by Robert O. Young DSc, PhD, Naturopathic Practitioner

June 13, 2021

 

 Over the last several months we have requested from the Center of Disease Control (CDC) evidence for the isolation and existence for the any and all viruses, including CoV – 2 and 19, MERS, Influenza, Polio, Measles, HIV, XMRV, HTLV-1, HTLV-III/LAV, HPV, Ebola, Zika, just to name a few of the so-called viruses, disclosed under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).

 

These written requests were made by Ms. Christine Massey to CDC/ATSDR FOIA Chief Officer Mr. Robert Andoh, to locate and deliver ANY records, research and/or findings for ANY “viral” isolation and purification (by anyone, anywhere, anytime in the World) from a patient sample via maceration, filtration and/or the use of an ultracentrifuge or what is called the ‘Gold Standard’ for isolating and identifying a pathological micro or nana organism. The ‘Gold Standard’ for isolating and identifying microbes is referred to as Koch’s and Rivers Postulates which was established many years ago.

 

The CDC Chief FOIA, Mr. Roger Andoh provided straightforward responses to each one of our requests, admitting in writing that they have NO RECORD of ANY KIND, for the following so-called phantom “viruses”, including CoV – 2 -19, HIV, HPV, XMRV, HTMV-1, HTMV-111/LV, Measles, Influenza, MERS, EBOLA, ZIKA, POLIO:

 

1. June 7, 2021: CDC admits they have no record of any “COV – 2 or 19 virus” purified from any patient sample via maceration, filtration and use of an ultracentrifuge, by anyone, anywhere, ever:

 

 2. June 7, 2021: CDC admits they have no record of any “HPV virus” purified from any patient sample via maceration, filtration and use of an ultracentrifuge, by anyone, anywhere, ever: (note: CDC made an error in their original response and later provided the corrected version below):

 

3. June 7, 2021: CDC admits they have no record of any “Measles virus” purified from any patient sample via maceration, filtration and use of an ultracentrifuge, by anyone, anywhere, ever! No Isolation, No Purification and No Identification for the Measles Virus!

 

Read full article with all the information:

 

https://www.drrobertyoung.com/post/cdc-now-admits-no-gold-standard-for-the-isolation-for-any-virus?utm_campaign=4ced834f-05c3-4822-aeb2-7ba9c495c8b7&utm_source=so&utm_medium=mail&cid=a3f68e09-9a4c-4eb4-87f0-338b9e400bc9

 

https://truthcomestolight.com/in-response-to-freedom-of-information-act-requests-cdc-admits-there-is-no-gold-standard-for-the-isolation-of-any-virus/

 

 

 

[GeoffB]

8 hours ago, Thoth001 said:

The problem is that is has not been proven to exist.

No virus has ever been isolated and no virus ever adheres to Koch's Postulates which were written before viruses were discovered. This doesn't mean that SARS-CoV-2 doesn't exist. It doesn't mean the virus for the common cold doesn't exist.

Why would you rather believe the Naturopath you linked to than the thousands upon thousands of medical, science, virology, epidemiology experts?

[novymir]

3 hours ago, GeoffB said:

No virus has ever been isolated and no virus ever adheres to Koch's Postulates which were written before viruses were discovered. This doesn't mean that SARS-CoV-2 doesn't exist. It doesn't mean the virus for the common cold doesn't exist.

Why would you rather believe the Naturopath you linked to than the thousands upon thousands of medical, science, virology, epidemiology experts?

But you're a "fan of D.I.", are you?  You accept 99% of his interpretations about everything else, except on this issue....because of the "1000's and 1000"s of experts" and assumed authorities that claim "contagious viruses" "exist". And they make this claim, and proclaim everyone is bound to their point of view...they tell others: what   is  "reality"...,,,, as IF they "know"...(THEY KNOW NOT).

How about to you, and these would-be "gods" ....fuck off!!!

You're/they're all know-nothing/know-it-all agents of/for the father of lies. EgoMatrix.

The "virus" only exists within the mind, the only virus is untruth. This "world" is an expression of that. The Truth is True immunization, and the ONLY Way out.

 

"...Physician!...heal thyself...!!!!

(stop spreading your black-magic nonsense and superstitions).

 

INFINITE LOVE IS THE ONLY TRUTH. ANYTHING ELSE IS PURE FANTASY, AND A DENIAL OF THE REAL.

Edited June 21, 2021 by novymir

[Thoth001]

6 hours ago, GeoffB said:

No virus has ever been isolated and no virus ever adheres to Koch's Postulates which were written before viruses were discovered. This doesn't mean that SARS-CoV-2 doesn't exist. It doesn't mean the virus for the common cold doesn't exist.

Why would you rather believe the Naturopath you linked to than the thousands upon thousands of medical, science, virology, epidemiology experts?

 

And why would you believe the Pharma Cartel created by the Rockefellers? Here is a little history for you to learn about, if you actually do want to learn or if you would rather believe in dogma's from the Pharma Cartel, in which are used to control you and the world. That is your choice.

 

The History of the Pharma Cartel

 

1911, May 15

 

The Supreme Court of the U.S. finds John Rockefeller and his Trust guilty of corruption, illegal business practices and racketeering. As a result of this decision, the entire Rockefeller Standard Oil-Trust, the world’s largest corporation of its time, was sentenced to be dismantled. But Rockefeller was already above the Supreme Court and did not care about this decision.

 

1913

 

In order to disperse public and political pressure on him and other robber-barons, Rockefeller uses a trick called “philanthropy”, whereby the illegal gains from his robber-practices in the oil business are used to launch the Rockefeller Foundation. This tax haven was used to strategically take over the health care sector in the U.S..

 

The Rockefeller Foundation was the front organization for a new global business venture of Rockefeller and his accomplices. This new venture was called the pharmaceutical investment business. Donations from the Rockefeller Foundation went only to medical schools and hospitals. These institutions had become missionaries of a new breed of companies: the manufacturers of patented, synthetic drugs.

 

This was also the time when the first vitamins were discovered. It soon became clear however that these natural molecules had live-saving health benefits and that they were able to prevent many chronic health conditions. The first books appeared with research, subsequently abandoned, about the health benefits of vitamins. These newly discovered molecules had only one disadvantage: they were non-patentable.

 

Thus, in its first years of existence, the pharmaceutical investment business already faced a mortal threat: vitamins and other micronutrients promoted as public health programs would prohibit the development of any sizable investment business based on patented drugs. The elimination of this unwanted competition from natural micronutrients therefore became a question of life and death for the pharmaceutical business.

 

1918

 

The Rockefeller Foundation uses the Spanish flu epidemic – and the media (that it already controlled by this time) – to start a witch-hunt on all forms of medicine that were not covered by its patents.

Within the next 15 years, all medical schools in the U.S., most hospitals and the American Medical Association all essentially became pawns on the chessboard of Rockefeller’s strategy to subjugate the entire health care sector under the monopoly of his pharmaceutical investment business.

Disguised as a “Mother Theresa”, the Rockefeller Foundation was also used to conquer foreign countries and entire continents for the pharmaceutical investment business – just as Rockefeller himself had done a few decades previously with his petrochemical investment business.

 

1925

 

On the other side of the Atlantic, in Germany, the first chemical / pharmaceutical cartel is founded in order to compete with Rockefeller’s quest for control of the global drug market. Lead by the German multinationals Bayer, BASF and Hoechst, the I.G. Farben cartel was founded with a total number of employees surpassing 80,000. The race for global control was on.

 

Read further:

 

https://www.dr-rath-foundation.org/2007/05/the-history-of-the-pharma-cartel/

 

 

 

[blowonthepie]

On 6/19/2021 at 12:17 PM, GeoffB said:

At the beginning of 2020 I too thought there was no virus and they were just redesignating deaths from flu, pneumonia etc. as Covid.

However, after a number of months the mortality figures from all causes increased to be the worst for many years. Even when you adjust the figures for population changes the UK all mortality figures are the worst since 2008.

Something was killing those people even though they were elderly and many with comorbidities. Yes lockdown and fear would have caused many deaths but not the numbers we have seen.

Therefore it is obvious that there is a virus which is similar to a bad flu season.

What has been weaponised by the Global Cult is the fear to bring in draconian measures. 

Covid is not particularly deadly. Before the Covid era the average age at death was 82. Now during the Covid era it is still around 82.

With David Icke and others insisting that there is no virus shows a lack of understanding of mortality figures.

Why on earth would the Global Cult NOT release a new virus to bring in a "reset"?

For the Global Cult to just rely on a hoax is absolutely ridiculous when they have many "real" viruses they can choose from.

Not having a real virus would risk being detected by the sheer number of doctors, scientists, virologists, epidemiologists etc. etc. With a real virus it is easier to control the media.

If the Global Cult want a total reset why has Sweden, Florida, Texas etc. etc. taken a different path to lockdowns?

I was in full agreement with David Ickes dot connecting video today apart from his notion that the virus is not real because the all cause mortality figures are much higher than previous years so it must be real. And his failure to explain why countries and states like Sweden, Florida and Texas are NOT adhering to the Global Cults agenda of lockdowns.

I also agree with David that it is the vaccine which could end up being more dangerous than Covid.

 

[GeoffB]

"Using the most up-to-date data we have available, the number of deaths from the week ending 13 March 2020 up to 4 June 2021 was 764,444 in England and Wales. Of the deaths registered by 4 June 2021, 140,185 (18.3%) mentioned COVID-19 on the death certificate. During this period, the number of excess deaths above the five-year average was 103,857 deaths."

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/weekending4june2021

 

A question to all you people who believe SARS-CoV-2 virus does not exist.

In England and Wales alone there were 103,857 "excess" deaths above the 5 year average. What was the main cause for the majority of these deaths? (I concede that unnecessary lockdowns have killed many people but nowhere near this amount).