David Icke's claim that 'there is no virus'?

[Scogan]

2 hours ago, Pabloisawake said:

There is no virus. That is the fact that matters. People are not dying. No extra burials or cremations, no extra hospital admissions.

 

Dr Kaufman has broken this down; c19 has never been shown to exist, that is a fact, not a theory.

 

The NWO can not create viruses. There will never be a virus outbreak.

 

THIS IS VERY RELEVANT. One has to then ask so how are they planning the mass cull of 7.5 BILLION people?

 

 

Ok, while I know viruses do exists (microbiology... you can actually see them) I can assume that they don't for arguments sake, just to point out a very real possibility that some of those people that did die were dying out of fear and nothing else, much like how a placebo works.  How many people do you reckon died from fear?  

 

[BFWLTS1]

54 minutes ago, Scogan said:

 

 

Ok, while I know viruses do exists (microbiology... you can actually see them) I can assume that they don't for arguments sake, just to point out a very real possibility that some of those people that did die were dying out of fear and nothing else, much like how a placebo works.  How many people do you reckon died from fear?  

 

I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately and I believe this could be the case with more ‘Covid’ deaths than any of use even begin to realise. I truly believe that people can, and do, literally make themselves ill. 
 

As the saying goes, ‘fear is the mind killer’. And when the mind has been ‘infected’, you can bet that that ‘sickness’ will spread to the rest of the physical body, manifesting all kinds of nastiness. 

[Mitochondrial Eve]

17 hours ago, Ynot Hump said:

I aired my own personal view earlier in the thread but just wish to add a point

 

There are TWO KEY FACTS at play here

 

FACT ONE - Yes there really is a virus. The population is being screwed over.

 

FACT TWO - No there is no virus. The population is being screwed over.

 

Instead of all the arguing and bickering here the one fact regardless of a virus existing or not is

THE POPULATION IS BEING SCREWED OVER.

 

 

 

I find this a very odd attitude.

 

This is a forum that has specifically been created for the exchange of information, evidence and opinions.

 

Whilst you may construe this as bickering, it is, in my view, an important part of the process of discerning truth. Does this not require hypotheses and testing of theories (from both sides)?

 

Suggesting that this should be shut down smacks of censorship to me, especially when it comes to a key foundation of this so-called pandemic - whether of not the alleged pathogen said to cause the so-called disease has really been proven as fact.

 

What do you suggest that we do instead to prevent the population from "being screwed over"?

[Mitochondrial Eve]

3 hours ago, Scogan said:

Ok, while I know viruses do exists (microbiology... you can actually see them)

 

Regarding your point about images of the virus, the electron microscope images allegedly of SARS-CoV-2 show particles which vary greatly in size (ranging from 60 nm to 140 nm). But, according to the authors of 'Virus Mania', a virus with such extreme size variation "cannot exist by definition" (page 392 of the 3rd edition). In fact, of the images presented, none have been obtained from completely purified virus. This has been confirmed by the authors of 5 pivotal papers to Torsten Engelbrecht and Konstantin Demeter who authored the Off Guardian piece 'Covid-19 PCR Tests Are Scientifically Meaningless'.

 

https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/27/covid19-pcr-tests-are-scientifically-meaningless/

Edited June 13, 2021 by Mitochondrial Eve

[Pabloisawake]

17 hours ago, Scogan said:

 

 

Ok, while I know viruses do exists (microbiology... you can actually see them) I can assume that they don't for arguments sake, just to point out a very real possibility that some of those people that did die were dying out of fear and nothing else, much like how a placebo works.  How many people do you reckon died from fear?  

 

 

Who died? The msm is literally made up.

 

There were no bodies piled up. ALL MADE UP.

[CosmoGenesis]

COVID NO EXISTY

WAKEY WAKEY!

 

[Nobby Noboddy]

Whoa, where have I been? - Oh yeah, banned for a bit.

 

What a cracking thread!

 

Might I humbly suggest anyone here who posts should at least have read

 

 

and if not all at least some of the referenced books too.

 

THEN  we can have a discussion that Antione Bechamp or Florence NIghtingale would be proud of.

 

Pasteur on the other hand can rot in hell.

[Brad the lad]

On 6/12/2021 at 12:29 PM, CosmoGenesis said:

 

Bro, EVERYTIME, I've had a cold/flu, my nose is that blocked I cant smell or taste anything. 

 

Thats what I always used to moan about when ill, that I cant taste my food!

Im really baffled as to why people think its a new thing. 

 

I had a customer say to me last week that she had covid at Christmas and so did all her family.

 

She spent the next 5 minutes describing just how bad it was for everyone and the symptoms.

After every symptom I just kept saying "What like the flu?"

 

They want to believe it so much that they don't even know if they are coming or going. It's like they want to be part of the circus at all costs.

 

 

[Beaujangles]

A few links showing flu and allergies as perfectly accurate reasons for loss of taste and smell:

 

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-flu-vaccine-smell-loss-idUSKBN0KW25220150123

 

https://www.physiciansweekly.com/when-you-stop-to-smell-the-roses-and-cannot-smell-a-thing

 

https://entsf.com/patient-health-information/nose-and-mouth/smell-taste

 

 

[rs1978]

Before i write more I just want to say I love D.I his books and practically everything he says but.

 

WHY the fuck does he keep saying there is NO VIRUS !! its fkn doing my NUT IN ! look i know apparently there zero scientific paper in the world isolating it to prove it exists ( apparently) i know all about the fake PCR test . ok ...............but what  THE FUCK about all the fkn people healthy people that bang all of a sudden there fkn floored in hospital on a fkn vent ?   

[GeoffB]

"SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, was isolated in the laboratory and is available for research by the scientific and medical community."

CDC 29th December 2020.

(Unless they are lying of course)?

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/lab/grows-virus-cell-culture.html

[whatastrangegame]

Therese is already an active thread on this topic. But just a quick note. Even if it where true that healthy people "bang all of a sudden...", how do you go from there to "it has to be a virus"? It's like seeing a light in the sky and concluding it has to be aliens from a distant galaxy here to perform anal probes.

 

Something is making people sick yes, but there are other explanations that are far more logical than virus.

[rs1978]

That's what I think as well m8 you just meet so many people who know people that have had it . 

 

I'm.my small group of so called m8s I am the only 1 not had the fake vaccine that that includes all family members:(

[screamingeagle]

39 minutes ago, whatastrangegame said:

Something is making people sick yes, but there are other explanations that are far more logical than virus.

yes it does,it's called flu....

[DrCornwallis]

4 hours ago, rs1978 said:

Before i write more I just want to say I love D.I his books and practically everything he says but.

 

WHY the fuck does he keep saying there is NO VIRUS !! its fkn doing my NUT IN ! look i know apparently there zero scientific paper in the world isolating it to prove it exists ( apparently) i know all about the fake PCR test . ok ...............but what  THE FUCK about all the fkn people healthy people that bang all of a sudden there fkn floored in hospital on a fkn vent ?   

 

Yep, especially when you have already had the fkn thing yourself, and you know very well that there most certainly is/was a weird lurgy going about, with these peculiar symptoms, especially the ongoing symptoms....

 

.....and before anyone pipes up with "yeah, it's called the flu m8"....

 

....Yes, and nobody has ever claimed that Covid19 was anything more than a flu, with a 99.98% survival rate......but the point is, there is still a fkn virus (that was probably intended to be much more virulent than it turned out to be)....

 

Saying, "there is no virus" just serves to undermine anything else he has to say on the matter.

 

ROFL in advance @ the dude who will probably pop up here and advise that viruses don't exist and that all illness is just energy that you attract by karmic resonance......or some fkn sh1t like that. 

[Guest]

Mod Note:

 

The thread called "No Virus!" (opened by @rs1978 ) has been merged with this older thread .... please try not to make multiple threads on the same subject.

[Pabloisawake]

7 hours ago, rs1978 said:

Before i write more I just want to say I love D.I his books and practically everything he says but.

 

WHY the fuck does he keep saying there is NO VIRUS !! its fkn doing my NUT IN ! look i know apparently there zero scientific paper in the world isolating it to prove it exists ( apparently) i know all about the fake PCR test . ok ...............but what  THE FUCK about all the fkn people healthy people that bang all of a sudden there fkn floored in hospital on a fkn vent ?   

Forget Icke

Dr Kaufman is the man to educate you.

 

There is no covid.

[screamingeagle]

5 hours ago, DrCornwallis said:

Yes, and nobody has ever claimed that Covid19 was anything more than a flu

almost every goverment in this shity society.....

 

oh and you are contradicting your self in this thread

[GeoffB]

"The virus that causes COVID-19 exists and was identified and isolated multiple times by independent research groups".

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/the-virus-that-causes-covid-19-exists-and-was-identified-and-isolated-multiple-times-by-independent-research-groups/

[screamingeagle]

5 hours ago, GeoffB said:

"The virus that causes COVID-19 exists and was identified and isolated multiple times by independent research groups".

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/the-virus-that-causes-covid-19-exists-and-was-identified-and-isolated-multiple-times-by-independent-research-groups/

empty buzz words ,necessary for the plandemic to continue to exists 

[Ynot Hump]

On 6/13/2021 at 8:49 PM, Mitochondrial Eve said:

 

I find this a very odd attitude.

 

This is a forum that has specifically been created for the exchange of information, evidence and opinions.

 

Whilst you may construe this as bickering, it is, in my view, an important part of the process of discerning truth. Does this not require hypotheses and testing of theories (from both sides)?

 

Suggesting that this should be shut down smacks of censorship to me, especially when it comes to a key foundation of this so-called pandemic - whether of not the alleged pathogen said to cause the so-called disease has really been proven as fact.

 

What do you suggest that we do instead to prevent the population from "being screwed over"?

 

I think the way I wrote what I wrote came across wrong.

 

I aired my view that I think there is no virus.

 

I meant that surely the believers of the virus should still be able to see that the human race is being conned.

If a believer is coming to David Icke Social to air their view that the virus does exist it makes no sense other than to troll.

 

One thing for sure that has come out of this scam is the proof that ALL mainstream media and social media is basically nothing more than a cult owned Global Government propaganda tool. Blatantly in your face narrative driving machine.

I don't think in fifteen months any of them have told any truth whatsoever concerning this scam.

 

And the only way to prevent the human race being screwed over is literally fight till the death against it.

I will be one of the last men standing not to take the injectable. Not a fucking chance. I would even consider suicide before having '...the jab' as Jackboot Johnson calls it.

 

Every last one of the lying bastards needs dragging into the street and stoning to death the old fashioned way.

 

[bamboozooka]

there was blood clots occurring long before the vaxx.

flu doesnt cause blood clots, neither does the common cold

 

we were infected with something in nov2019 from above. seeded in clouds, blown in and rained down.

[GeoffB]

Ok, I acknowledge that there is a fringe belief among some academics which blows a hole through the whole concept of Germ Theory and Virology.

The main proponents are Dr Andrew Kaufman and through him Dr Sam Bailey.

Here is a recent video of them discussing it on 8^th June 2021.

https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/Odysee-Hunting-Viruses-With-Andy-Kaufmann-1-comp:7?r=Hi235fbeSxXgEvHPARxCiew2F8RbaKHc

Basically they are saying it is and always has been impossible to isolate ANY virus and reinfect another host fulfilling Koch’s Postulates and viruses and germs don’t exist.

Therefore do we believe the vast majority of the scientific community that ANY virus does exist or do we believe Kaufman (a psychiatrist) or Bailey (a NZ GP) that NO virus of any kind exists?

I appreciate that the scientific community and Big Pharma has a lot to lose if they admit that the “emperor has no clothes” but decades and decades of scientific and medical knowledge would have to be rewritten.

Although I despise Big Pharma and the whole Covid hysteria I am keeping an open mind but still tend towards SARS-CoV-2 virus being real and made in a lab possibly to be used by the US against China.

I would repeat that David Icke said in 2009 that the Global Elite would release a virus against the general population.

He now, however, thanks to Kaufman, believes that the virus does not exist and something else is harming people, it can't be flu because flu is a virus and viruses do not exist. David would have been better off sticking with his 2009 notion that the virus was deliberately released to harm and change the world to the Global Elites advantage.

[Dar]

I lost my wife of age 52 in late 2019 to COVID like symptoms—she died quickly and unexpectedly in the hospital: her cardiologists suspected that she caught a virus(?), which exasperated her AFIB condition.  The loss was very emotional for me and still is. Now we know that this virus (or whatever it is) was in the U.S. as early as December of 2019 and I believe it was there sooner. 

 

What I do agree with is that there is a lot of disinformation all around about this pandemic, or whatever, and an over zealous drive to get everyone vaccinated. I remember not too long before COVID 19 and anti-vaccination movement that was gaining momentum in the U.S. and in Europe, because many, especially expecting mothers, believed that certain vaccines could cause autism in their child.

 

What also makes me suspicious about the whole damn thing is this 6' social distancing and mask wearing business: the flu and common cold are nearly as contagious, and deadly in certain circumstances, but there has never been a push to vaccinate against the flu, and a mandate to wear masks during cold and flu season—with the exemption of Michael Jackson who was ahead of his time wearing a mask publicly. Now, governments are incentivizing individuals to get the vaccine with gimmicks, and COVID vaccination is now being enforced through the a Texas court and employers can fire employees who refuse it. Another point I would like to make: if this virus/pandemic is so God-damn serious, then why are thousands of hourly employees allowed to work in the retail/customer service industry on the ground floor helping customers buy stuff for their house? Why are these employees put at high risk? And why would China—the country that makes most of the crap we buy—create a virus that is highly contagious, kills and seriously disrupts the global economy? It does not make rational sense.

Edited June 16, 2021 by Dar

[DrCornwallis]

If viruses don't exist, how can a viral infection such as Herpes Simplex 1, be rapidly treated with an anti viral ointment such as aciclover?

 

Anyone who has ever suffered from cold sores will know what I mean, and will know what a cold sore was like prior to aciclover (2-3 weeks of stinging agitation on the lips), compared to what having a cold sore is like with Aciclover to hand (1 evening experiencing a very mild tingle, which the anti-viral ointment knocks immediately dead).

Edited June 16, 2021 by DrCornwallis