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Just now, GeoffB said:

They can come from anywhere. It is just a precaution.

Antibiotics and steroids, if used, are also in the mock control.

At this point I could care less what you have to say. I am engaged in another interesting thread and will not be wasting any more time with your claptrap. Goodbye and good luck

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23 hours ago, GeoffB said:

Virology is a complex subject that is based on facts.

The best people to call out misinformation on viruses are experts in their field.

David Icke normally doesn't deal in facts he deals in theories and abstract concepts and is therefore difficult to contradict with facts.

The only thing I disagree with David is his disappointing stance that "viruses do not exist" which has been totally debunked.

 

Are you a virologist by any chance?

 

Pretty much most of what David Icke has talked or written about over the years has been 'totally debunked' by 'experts'.

 

Do you completely trust 'experts' such as Prof Chris Whitty, Prof Neil Ferguson and Dr Jonathan Van-Tam?

 

 

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Its seems pretty clear to me that once we collectively understand that so called viruses are the exact opposite of what we are being told they are, there will quickly follow i a huge collapse of hierarchically imposed fake  perceptions.

 

This is very dangerous to the 0.01 percent.

 

Its the same with the climate change nonsense.

 

The above tiny minority are desperately clinging to fake narratives and will employ all methods , mostly money,  to maintain it.

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28 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

Are you a virologist by any chance?

 

Pretty much most of what David Icke has talked or written about over the years has been 'totally debunked' by 'experts'.

 

Do you completely trust 'experts' such as Prof Chris Whitty, Prof Neil Ferguson and Dr Jonathan Van-Tam?

 

 

I have studied virology and it is an absolutely fascinating subject and the existence of viruses is beyond doubt.

 

I don't think that David Icke has been debunked because as I have said before they are theories and abstract concepts which is impossible to counter with facts, only with opinions even if it is from a so-called expert.

 

I don't trust any experts particularly the one's you mentioned but you don't have to be much of an expert to know that viruses exist.

 

 

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2 hours ago, GeoffB said:

I have studied virology and it is an absolutely fascinating subject and the existence of viruses is beyond doubt.

 

I don't think that David Icke has been debunked because as I have said before they are theories and abstract concepts which is impossible to counter with facts, only with opinions even if it is from a so-called expert.

 

I don't trust any experts particularly the one's you mentioned but you don't have to be much of an expert to know that viruses exist.

 

 

Your absolutism(and duplicity) is  preposterous, it would be hilarious too, if you would only just keep it to yourself,  instead of acting exactly like what you refer to as a "deadly contageous virus"...the only kind of "virus"= fucked up ideas.

 

 

ps; something not human is "living"/operating through this member...that's my opinion...artificial-intelligence... it's fake, trying to mimic human...it's not genuine.

 

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The facts showing that viruses exist ……

 

Viruses have been proved to exist by modern virology through experiments with an isolated single human cell infected with a virus and shown to infect a different healthy human cell. Mock controls are done in almost every case. The experiment is written up in a scientific paper for peer review. No paper has had to be retracted.

 

Viruses have been proved to exist via modern electron microscopy and photographed showing the virus which is similar but different to an exosome. Again no paper has been retracted.

 

Viruses have been proved to exist via modern whole gene sequencing of all of the base pairs. SARS-CoV-2 has 29,903 base pairs which have been uploaded to the GISAID initiative over 4.7 million times. Again no paper has been retracted.

 

Viruses have been proved to exist via PCR tests which are highly specific in detecting the unique long gene sequence fragment of the virus you want to detect. It is not so good at diagnosing infection as the virus detected maybe dead fragments and not viable which can only be done by cell culture. However, the CT rate is an indication of infectability. Again no paper has been retracted.

 

Viruses have been proved to exist in the German courts in the infamous Lanka v Bardens case where all the judges and experts agreed that the measles virus was real. (Lanka weaseled himself out of paying the 100,000euro bet by persuading the court that it was proved by “six” scientific papers and not “one” that he had asked for).

 

There has been no retired virologist or otherwise with nothing to lose in coming forward with any doubts about “viruses existing”. There have been no death bed confessions from modern virologists. This indicates that viruses are real and do exist.

 

The US has over 200 bioweapons labs around the world, there are many others. They are all working on viruses. If there is a biological accident or attack your semi-religious belief that “viruses do not exist” will not save you from sickness and/or death.

 

Some Charlatans with a failed scientific/medical background with books to sell, websites to fund and pills, lotions and potions to sell to the gullible have seen the profit potential of abandoning mainstream medicine in favour of the 19th century Terrain Theory and “viruses do not exist” quackery. People like Stefan Lanka, Andrew Kaufman, Tom Cowan, Sam Bailey etc.

 

These people have seduced others in the alternative media without a medical or scientific background but who also have books to sell and websites to fund to support their spurious 19th century claims and that “viruses do not exist”. People like David Icke, Jon Rappaport, Mike Adams etc.

 

They keep appearing on each others platforms, including Alex Jones Infowars, and keep quoting each other and operate in an echo chamber of lies and deceit to illicit money from the gullible.

 

Facts are facts and viruses have been proved to exist.

 

These people may have interesting things to say on Covid, lockdowns, masks, vaccines, global warming, controlling the masses and many other subjects but on “viruses not existing” they are totally wrong, out of date and have been proved to be wrong.

 

You may be a follower of these people and want to believe they are right 100% of the time but on “viruses not existing” they are just plain wrong, out of date and have been proved to be wrong.
 

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We've been "seduced".?..yeah right....while all the money, perks, prestige, and undeserved "hero" status is in the consensus, status-quo, governmental/corporate-media approved "medical science", "health-care" industry; the industry that has infested -infected  every metropolitan area world-wide , and destroys the health and well-being of it's gullible, innocent human subjects. Stealing their minds, energy, and potentials, their lives, to support a predatory/parasitic entity of a fraudulent nature.

It has assimilated  humans into a borg-like anti-human, anti-Spirit consciousness. They have been conned into turning their will and their life over to what amounts to is "satan"-- the fraud-god of this counterfeit world dream=egoMatrix.

 

Sure, we've been seduced. No, we've woken up to Truth.

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, WaveParticle said:

The "covid" was a complete fake to further the GLOBALIST agenda, basically as David Icke wrote, it was simply the common cold, "flu" re-diagnosed as fake COVID.  


I agree! However, there was supposed to be something released publicly. Although that would be considered a biological weapon rather than a virus.

Dr Charles Lieber and two of his Chinese students were caught being paid by foreign entity, making false statements and smuggling biological materials abroad. They were absolutely working on something

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard-university-professor-indicted-false-statement-charges - read about the two Chinese students as well and note the timing of that.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard-university-professor-and-two-chinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china-related - Separate I am not so sure about.

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On 10/24/2023 at 4:20 PM, TheConsultant said:

I agree! However, there was supposed to be something released publicly. Although that would be considered a biological weapon rather than a virus.

Dr Charles Lieber and two of his Chinese students were caught being paid by foreign entity, making false statements and smuggling biological materials abroad. They were absolutely working on something

 

I am still of the belief that COVID-19 was just the flu rebranded, and the PCR/LFT tests were meaningless.

 

However, I still do not 'buy' this alternative narrative of a 'biological weapon being released from a Wuhan lab', as I think this is also some kind of a deflection.

 

I don't doubt that there are labs all across the world working on such types of biological weapons for nefarious purposes.

 

What I found wholly remarkable was just how fast this 'new coronavirus' spread around the world, and I think the whole idea of 'Chinese people going back home after celebrating New Year' was just a convenient smokescreen.

 

COVID spread as fast as the Chinese factories were churning out these PCR and LFT test kits. It was also convenient that lockdowns and mask-wearing mandates were introduced shortly after the Chinese factories started churning out millions of those useless disposable surgical masks.

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46 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

I am still of the belief that COVID-19 was just the flu rebranded, and the PCR/LFT tests were meaningless.

 

However, I still do not 'buy' this alternative narrative of a 'biological weapon being released from a Wuhan lab', as I think this is also some kind of a deflection.

 

I don't doubt that there are labs all across the world working on such types of biological weapons for nefarious purposes.

 

What I found wholly remarkable was just how fast this 'new coronavirus' spread around the world, and I think the whole idea of 'Chinese people going back home after celebrating New Year' was just a convenient smokescreen.

 

COVID spread as fast as the Chinese factories were churning out these PCR and LFT test kits. It was also convenient that lockdowns and mask-wearing mandates were introduced shortly after the Chinese factories started churning out millions of those useless disposable surgical masks.


You are missing a step, the weapon never got out publicly. Internal emails and finances show it was a developed bioweapon, not my words the words of internal WHO emails. Fully agree regarding flu and PCR/tests.

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On 11/2/2021 at 8:52 PM, GeoffB said:

 

I don't trust any experts particularly the one's you mentioned but you don't have to be much of an expert to know that viruses exist.

 

 

I'm definitely not an expert but I've never heard that viruses don't exist.

 

I have heard that they are not as we thought, harmful and more inert.

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To what degree can people still 'self-medicate' themselves today? An example might be making your own 'ozonated olive oil' or 'colloidal silver'. It is also now possible for 'hikers' to purify water 'on the go' with a small pill doing it's task in about an hour. If people are already drinking bottled water from a 5gal jug, why not add a purification tablet to it when you open, just to be as safe as you can be about the quality of water you are 'in-taking'? Hot tubs use the same chemical so your body may absorb some, and inadvertently, be healing some 'open wound'.

In the world of 'real medicine' the 'Phage Method' promotes there are no 'super bacteria' possible as a 'super virus' would co-develop.

This vid is one of the better ones as the research the US gathered was taken to the US and put into a vault that was then sealed shut by 'big pharma', as well as explaining just what Phage is:

 

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On 6/7/2021 at 10:28 PM, DrCornwallis said:

I mean, c'mon to fk, seriously?

 

Surely LOADS of people in here (followers of David Icke), must have either caught, or know someone who caught this weird as fk lurgy, around Dec19/Jan20 and beyond, with all these really weird symptoms, unlike any other cold/flu they ever had, that lasted for ages, went away, then came back, then went away, and came back again.....leaving many with quite concerning after effects. Heard of lots of people been coughing their lungs up ever since.....I personally developed symptoms that made me quite concerned for my cardio vascular health, although the doc assures me that my cardiogram and blood test results are all good.

 

I aint getting the Vaxx, and everyone who gets the Vaxx drops dead over next winter's round of cold n flu bugs which they will dress up as new variants, then that is fine by me....

 

....But THERE IS DEFINITELY A VIRUS?

 

Why does he have to peddle this 'there is no virus b.s.'? Half the country caught it before Covid was even a brand name.

 

(or am I just a 77th Brigade agitor/bot/spy/spook/infiltrator etc etc)

 

(only 1 post! That gives the game away a bit don't you all think?)

David's claim is legitimate under my thoughts as what he says about perception and then reaction, solution, problem. 

The world elite are professionals at introducing an agenda and proving themselves right, COVID-19 being fake is a genius idea and definitely something that should be considered from us all as of all the propaganda we are fed from MSM. 

I have written about this in another post that the lateral flow antigen testing can be false representative of SARS-CoV (COVID-19) with just testing for a cold and other symptoms of common illnesses which makes for the perfect product to introduce mass psychosis with stating that COVID-19 is a real virus when in actual fact it does not exist there is just a common cold that is around the world and even more so, the lateral flow antigen tests can test positive for giving an even greater sense to the population that SARS-CoV (COVID-19) is a real virus.

From the basis of my point and thesis, I think David can potentially be right with his claim for sure.  

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On 2/25/2024 at 12:50 AM, Connor Wiseman said:

have written about this in another post that the lateral flow antigen testing can be false representative of SARS-CoV (COVID-19) with just testing for a cold and other symptoms of common illnesses which makes for the perfect product to introduce mass psychosis with stating that COVID-19 is a real virus when in actual fact it does not exist there is just a common cold that is around the world and even more so, the lateral flow antigen tests can test positive for giving an even greater sense to the population that SARS-CoV (COVID-19) is a real virus.

 

To the best of my knowledge, I have never seen any satisfactory explanation about how these test kits work and how exactly they detect the presence of a specific virus.

 

Let alone any supposed 'variant' of such virus either!

 

The test kits were all part of the fraud, in my opinion, alongside the notion of 'asymptomatic transmission'. Many people who were never actually ill, "believed" they were, and were then scared to death to 'pass it on' to someone else, just because one of these test kits returned a 'positive' result.

 

 

 

 

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