DarianF Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 YouTube just removed Dr Sam Bailey's video, where she talks about SarsCov2 not being isolated. I wonder what YouTube is so afraid of? [ https://youtu.be/tQoC39n4QP8?t=202 ]. Luckily, she backed up the video here ---> https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/covid-19-dr-sam-faqs:a 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, GeoffB said: Scientists have shown the proof that viruses exist but you choose to ignore it. My patience is wearing thin and am only giving back what you have been throwing at me. If you can't take it don't give it. You are the one who keeps bringing up Lanka who is an absolute laughing stock. This thread is all about David Icke saying that viruses do not exist. David has been hoodwinked by Lanka, Kaufman and Cowan who have divided the alternative media and the fight against this tyranny. I have never disagreed with David before but he will probably live to regret that he ever listened to Lanka, Kaufman and Cowan and their disproved theory that viruses do not exist. You are a slave, Geoff. Like everyone else, you were born into bondage... born into a prison that you cannot smell or taste or touch. A prison for your mind. What you teach does not serve freedom or empowerment. Your teachings have the characteristics of what is projected as a deadly, contagious "virus". What you believe and teach to others is the deadly contagion. And it's been well documented in this thread. You are blind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffB Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 30 minutes ago, MarcusOmouse said: I have to hand it to you Geoff. Whilst I can't speak for you, I couldnt handle being exposed as such a fool,with regards to how virus science and the world in general works, given the torrent of evidence presented here, for any amount of money. Lets examine three so called viruses. HIV Ebola Covid For HIV the treatment was AZT. A medically proven killer that debiliitates the immune system. Healthy people then diagnosed with HIV were given AZT and guess what ? Their immune system fell through the floor and they died of AIDS. For Ebola, the cure was Remdesevir, with a 52 per cent fatality rate amongst those given the treatment. No doubt they are classified as ebola deaths. For Covid , we have a Jab, whose contents are registered as a bioweapon. As the hospitalisations continue to grow and the 'inexplicable' mortality rates slowly increase across the globe following the introduction of this life saving medicine, whats your best guess as to the cause? You can of course fool some of the people some of the time, but believe me, you aint fooling too many here . Wrong treatments and dangerous vaccines have nothing to do with viruses existing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffB Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 28 minutes ago, DarianF said: YouTube just removed Dr Sam Bailey's video, where she talks about SarsCov2 not being isolated. I wonder what YouTube is so afraid of? [ https://youtu.be/tQoC39n4QP8?t=202 ]. Luckily, she backed up the video here ---> https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/covid-19-dr-sam-faqs:a Sam Bailey is another joke internet personality who has been exposed by her peers back in New Zealand. "sam bailey on isolating viruses, and why she is wrong" https://blog.waikato.ac.nz/bioblog/2021/04/sam-bailey-on-isolating-viruses-and-why-she-is-wrong/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, GeoffB said: Sam Bailey is another joke internet personality who has been exposed by her peers back in New Zealand. "sam bailey on isolating viruses, and why she is wrong" https://blog.waikato.ac.nz/bioblog/2021/04/sam-bailey-on-isolating-viruses-and-why-she-is-wrong/ She can diagnose me any day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, GeoffB said: Wrong treatments and dangerous vaccines have nothing to do with viruses existing. Really? Where did those "treatments" and "vaccines" come from? From germ-theorist "deniers"? Who is "researching" and "developing" these "wrong treatments" and "dangerous vaccines"? What "science" supports these things? Why are they promoted by the "health care industry"? Why do hospitals, doctors, and their employees prescribe and insist on these "wrong treatments" and "dangerous vaccines" ?, are they not "following the science" they were taught? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 I've been enjoying JR's Covid posts on PCR/Testing: - https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/tag/pcr/ - https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/tag/testing/ Fyi for you guys. I know @GeoffB will especially enjoy these. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusOmouse Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, GeoffB said: Wrong treatments and dangerous vaccines have nothing to do with viruses existing. Indeed they don't The only thing you probably need to better understand AFAIC is that "viruses", as defined by the modern psychopathically controlled medical industry , are not poisons. We surely need a better name for a vital part of our immune system than a poison ? The latin for virus is of course poison. I wonder what the latin for patriot is ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 10 minutes ago, GeoffB said: Sam Bailey is another joke internet personality who has been exposed by her peers back in New Zealand. "sam bailey on isolating viruses, and why she is wrong" https://blog.waikato.ac.nz/bioblog/2021/04/sam-bailey-on-isolating-viruses-and-why-she-is-wrong/ You're an "internet joke personality". But you're alway right Geoff, no matter what, you're always right. But... "...Let me tell you something, let me tell you true What's right for me might not be right for you Well, you live your way, I'll live mine And I hope that your happy all the time...". Lynyrd Skynyrd (Nuthin Fancy-1975) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, DarianF said: I've been enjoying JR's Covid posts on PCR/Testing: - https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/tag/pcr/ - https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/tag/testing/ Fyi for you guys. I know @GeoffB will especially enjoy these. Yeah, he made a little visit over there a month or 2 ago,,,,didn't last long. JR is a pretty tolerant guy, but he doesn't put up with too much nonsense for long either... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, novymir said: "internet joke personality" She can hold her own [ https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/howtospotcovidmisinformation:9 ]. I really don't think people like @GeoffB scare her too much. YouTube blocked her content because it was getting too many views and they can't risk that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 1 minute ago, novymir said: Yeah, he made a little visit over there a month or 2 ago,,,,didn't last long. JR is a pretty tolerant guy, but he doesn't put up with too much nonsense for long either... He's a guy I'd like to have a beer with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffB Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 53 minutes ago, DarianF said: YouTube blocked her content because it was getting too many views and they can't risk that. They blocked it because it was misinformation as described by this eminent scientist in New Zealand. https://blog.waikato.ac.nz/bioblog/2021/04/sam-bailey-on-isolating-viruses-and-why-she-is-wrong/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, GeoffB said: They blocked it because it was misinformation as described by this eminent scientist in New Zealand. https://blog.waikato.ac.nz/bioblog/2021/04/sam-bailey-on-isolating-viruses-and-why-she-is-wrong/ HA-HAAA...!! Charade-you-are...!!! Now he's defending and endorsing youtube censorship policy. "Misinformation" as declared and defined by an organ of The Ministry Of Truth! That propagates and endorses the vaccines and totalitarian policies of the corrupt-as-can-be "governments". I just use youtube against itself and it's agenda. They demonize and attack those that threaten them the most,,,with a seething, spitting, hatred. They lose though. The Truth Reigns Supreme! Edited October 30, 2021 by novymir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffB Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Dr Sam Bailey is another one who has a book about viruses not existing to sell to the gullible. It appears to be more profitable to be a quack than a real doctor these days. https://www.acsh.org/news/2021/02/10/how-quacks-become-millionaires-5g-covid-doctor-will-sell-supplements-15336 Many of her claims are not supported by evidence and have been totally debunked by real scientists who have shown real evidence to debunk her claims. She is a GP from New Zealand who appears to have little understanding of modern virology. I don't believe in censorship if no laws are broken. Her wild claims have been debunked on this website. https://blog.waikato.ac.nz/bioblog/2021/04/sam-bailey-on-isolating-viruses-and-why-she-is-wrong/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilowon Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 15 hours ago, DarianF said: She can diagnose me any day yep. she is kind of hot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilowon Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 14 hours ago, GeoffB said: They blocked it because it was misinformation as described by this eminent scientist in New Zealand. https://blog.waikato.ac.nz/bioblog/2021/04/sam-bailey-on-isolating-viruses-and-why-she-is-wrong/ so you support censorship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilowon Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, GeoffB said: Dr Sam Bailey is another one who has a book about viruses not existing to sell to the gullible. It appears to be more profitable to be a quack than a real doctor these days. https://www.acsh.org/news/2021/02/10/how-quacks-become-millionaires-5g-covid-doctor-will-sell-supplements-15336 Many of her claims are not supported by evidence and have been totally debunked by real scientists who have shown real evidence to debunk her claims. She is a GP from New Zealand who appears to have little understanding of modern virology. I don't believe in censorship if no laws are broken. Her wild claims have been debunked on this website. https://blog.waikato.ac.nz/bioblog/2021/04/sam-bailey-on-isolating-viruses-and-why-she-is-wrong/ There is no such thing as modern virology, except for in silico/in vitro pseudoscience. What laws was broken by Bailey? So your argument should be we should ignore everyone who has a book or products to sell, like David icke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilowon Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 17 minutes ago, GeoffB said: Dr Sam Bailey is another one who has a book about viruses not existing to sell to the gullible. It appears to be more profitable to be a quack than a real doctor these days. https://www.acsh.org/news/2021/02/10/how-quacks-become-millionaires-5g-covid-doctor-will-sell-supplements-15336 Many of her claims are not supported by evidence and have been totally debunked by real scientists who have shown real evidence to debunk her claims. She is a GP from New Zealand who appears to have little understanding of modern virology. I don't believe in censorship if no laws are broken. Her wild claims have been debunked on this website. https://blog.waikato.ac.nz/bioblog/2021/04/sam-bailey-on-isolating-viruses-and-why-she-is-wrong/ in went and read the article and as expected it was a hatchet job on Bailey herself rather than her argument, as many pointed out in the comment section. They even challenged her to get in contact with Bailey and she refused. Her argument basically boil down to that Dr Bailey is trying to sell a book. Basically, like you, she believe we should ignore anyone who has a product to sell. Like most scientific institutions and scientists and pharmaceutical companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilowon Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 29 minutes ago, GeoffB said: Dr Sam Bailey is another one who has a book about viruses not existing to sell to the gullible. It appears to be more profitable to be a quack than a real doctor these days. https://www.acsh.org/news/2021/02/10/how-quacks-become-millionaires-5g-covid-doctor-will-sell-supplements-15336 Many of her claims are not supported by evidence and have been totally debunked by real scientists who have shown real evidence to debunk her claims. She is a GP from New Zealand who appears to have little understanding of modern virology. I don't believe in censorship if no laws are broken. Her wild claims have been debunked on this website. https://blog.waikato.ac.nz/bioblog/2021/04/sam-bailey-on-isolating-viruses-and-why-she-is-wrong/ And the lady on the Waikato blog is a vaccine pusher. I thought you were against those, at least for covid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screamingeagle Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Mod note please no personal discusion ,take it to PMs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scowie Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) On 10/30/2021 at 3:28 PM, GeoffB said: Scientific papers don't need to go in to every minute detail because the normal people who read them are happy to accept that a mock control was done in the knowledge that the exact same ingredients are used as the experiment other than the virus is missing from the mock control. The abnormal people like you are not catered for who want to have every step by step detailed and each ingredient listed. It is not necessary. Science papers are there for knowledgeable people, not children. The liquid suspensions used are nutrients and antibiotics and are exactly the same for the experiment and the mock control. Laboratories who provide the living cells for experimentation list the ingredients of the liquid suspensions for cell culture on their websites. That isn't knowledge. It is a false assumption. It is the fact that no ingredients are listed on the virus samples that is the problem. These virologists have a better idea of what was in their breakfast cereal than what they are treating their cell lines with. They are poisoning cells and claiming a virus did the damage. Following the scientific method is necessary. "Science" papers are for promoting a dogma and conning the gullible too unfortunately. 23 hours ago, GeoffB said: Everything anyone needs to know is detailed in the scientific papers. Viruses have been proved to exist. "Lanka is either really bad at culturing cells himself and is too stupid to realize what he is doing wrong, or he is lying for clout. Either way, debunked.” Ingredients of virus samples is not recorded and it's largely because of that that pathogenic viruses have never been proven to exist. Lanka demands that proper science be done, that's all. He is fighting for the truth. All his critics are either dumb or corrupt. Well, mostly they profess the dogma that keeps them in gainful employment so I guess they are generally a bit of both. 21 hours ago, GeoffB said: David has been hoodwinked by Lanka, Kaufman and Cowan who have divided the alternative media and the fight against this tyranny. Much of the alternative media has been corrupted just like the mainstream media. The story about coronavirus being the product of gain-of-function research in a Chinese laboratory is one such example. Actually, that's not even just an alternative media view. Right wing main stream media (like the Daily Mail) have been promoting that rubbish. I'm wondering if you being so wedded to the idea viruses exist might simply be because you are addicted to riding those right wing bandwagons. Maybe you need the Chinese to be the bad guys. The truth is revealed by what gets censored. No one gets banned from Twitter or Youtube for suggesting that coronavirus was leaked from a Chinese lab. They get banned for speaking the truth, i.e. saying that viruses do not exist. Do you believe that these social media platforms are force for good when they censor like this? Are they protecting everyone's health in your mind? Edited October 31, 2021 by scowie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffB Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 19 hours ago, scowie said: It is the fact that no ingredients are listed on the virus samples that is the problem. A very quick internet search produces the ingredients. "In general terms, cultured cells require a sterile environment and a supply of nutrients for growth. In addition, the culture environment should be stable in terms of pH and temperature. Over the last 60 years, various defined basal media types have been developed and are now available commercially. Originally, balanced salt solutions were used to maintain contractility of mammalian heart tissue and Tyrode’s salt solution was designed for use in work with primary mammalian cells. These founding formulations have since been modified and enriched with amino acids, vitamins, fatty acids and lipids so that modern culture media are suitable for supporting the growth of a wide range of cell types. The precise media formulations have often been derived by optimizing the concentrations of every constituent. Examples of the different media and their uses are given below:" https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/GB/en/technical-documents/technical-article/cell-culture-and-cell-culture-analysis/mammalian-cell-culture/the-cell-environment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffB Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 19 hours ago, scowie said: I'm wondering if you being so wedded to the idea viruses exist might simply be because you are addicted to riding those right wing bandwagons. Maybe you need the Chinese to be the bad guys. As an old socialist I can hardly be called right wing. I have mentioned on here many times that the most likely source of the virus is a US lab and it was used as an economic attack on China by rogue elements of the US Deep State and they didn't bank on it spreading worldwide. https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-our-coronavirus-catastrophe-as-biowarfare-blowback/ The U.S. operates over 200 military biological laboratories worldwide who can release viruses whenever they like and yet you and people like you don't care because you are wedded to a 19th century theory that "viruses do not exist". https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-05-21/U-S-deployed-over-200-military-biological-laboratories-worldwide-QFtLkqhuVy/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilowon Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, GeoffB said: A very quick internet search produces the ingredients. "In general terms, cultured cells require a sterile environment and a supply of nutrients for growth. In addition, the culture environment should be stable in terms of pH and temperature. Over the last 60 years, various defined basal media types have been developed and are now available commercially. Originally, balanced salt solutions were used to maintain contractility of mammalian heart tissue and Tyrode’s salt solution was designed for use in work with primary mammalian cells. These founding formulations have since been modified and enriched with amino acids, vitamins, fatty acids and lipids so that modern culture media are suitable for supporting the growth of a wide range of cell types. The precise media formulations have often been derived by optimizing the concentrations of every constituent. Examples of the different media and their uses are given below:" https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/GB/en/technical-documents/technical-article/cell-culture-and-cell-culture-analysis/mammalian-cell-culture/the-cell-environment But that in no way say that is what they used when doing their actual experiment since they rarely revealed what is in the medium. And even in your list, you can see that chemicals like antibiotics, salts, Steroids are included. Also, there are so many sources of foreign materials in the medium that without true dictionary isolation, you could never knows for sure what is responsible for the cytopathic effects observe. No one seemed to take into account that the reaction of the medium with sputum might cause cytopathic effects which have nothing to do with a virus. And let's not even talk about the various freezing, thawing, heating etc processes that some of those samples goes through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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