GeoffB Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 34 minutes ago, kilowon said: Real scientists with knowledge of virology? There are no real scientist when it comes to virology as it is a completely made up science with no actuality in reality. No one, in the 150 years of germ theory, has ever shown any scientific proof that a so called virus exist in a living being as the only means to look at that phantasm is through the electron microscope, which can only look at dead things. No one has ever shown that virus exist outside of a cell culture in a lab as the only way to look at virus is through an electron microscope which can only look at dead thing. No one has ever shown that a virus can leave a host and enter another host as the only way to look at virus is in cell culture through an electron microscope which can only look at dead thing. No one has ever shown a virus in vivo as the only way to supposedly see virus is through and electron microscope which can only look at dead thing in cell culture, not living processes and certainly nothing within a living being. How would they even be able to rip Lanka Control experiment to shred when they themselves do not do control for their experiment. In 150 years, every time scientist have tried to infect someone with a virus they have failed. I posted all the link to those failed experiment above which i noticed you conveniently refuse to comment on. Just as you seem unwilling to answer the question on how a non-living piece of materials with no agency of its own can seek and invade cells and hijack them and forced them to reproduced Terrain Theory is ancient history. Modern virology and gene sequencing has totally debunked it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilowon Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, GeoffB said: I have read the court document in English and it doesn't say what you think it says. Copy and paste the relevant section on here that you are referring to. the whole thing is the relevant section. I have already posted it, in english to boot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffB Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 30 minutes ago, kilowon said: This is a meta analysis. Not an actual experiment. Please explain what the mock control was? Write to the real scientists who carried it out and they will tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffB Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 1 minute ago, kilowon said: the whole thing is the relevant section. I have already posted it, in english to boot It doesn't say what you think it says. It was a legal technicality which had nothing to do with viruses. The judges agreed in the High Court and in the Appeals Court that the measles virus exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilowon Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 20 minutes ago, GeoffB said: Write to the real scientists who carried it out and they will tell you. it is okay to say that you do not know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffB Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Just now, kilowon said: it is okay to say that you do not know. I can't be bothered to keep wasting my time on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilowon Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 18 minutes ago, GeoffB said: It doesn't say what you think it says. It was a legal technicality which had nothing to do with viruses. The judges agreed in the High Court and in the Appeals Court that the measles virus exists. Read the documents. The judge personal opinion have no bearing on the matter. That is why an expert was appointed by the judge and even he, a germ theory believer and of course not a real expert since viruses does not exist, have major issues with the six papers from Bardens. You are out of your league here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilowon Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 1 minute ago, GeoffB said: I can't be bothered to keep wasting my time on you. And yet here you are, wasting your time with me. What does that say about you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilowon Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 28 minutes ago, GeoffB said: Terrain Theory is ancient history. Modern virology and gene sequencing has totally debunked it. So the poison we put in our bodies does not affect us? How do you explain the prevalent of lifestyle diseases then? How do you explain why doctors and nutritionist and even WHO, encourage people to live healthy lifestyle. Are they all singing off a debunked hymn sheet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffB Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, kilowon said: So the poison we put in our bodies does not affect us? How do you explain the prevalent of lifestyle diseases then? How do you explain why doctors and nutritionist and even WHO, encourage people to live healthy lifestyle. Are they all singing off a debunked hymn sheet? You ignore my previous posts where I clearly state that lifestyles can adversely effect the immune system allowing viruses to take hold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffB Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, kilowon said: And yet here you are, wasting your time with me. What does that say about you? I have the patience of a Saint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilowon Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 1 minute ago, GeoffB said: I have the patience of a Saint. I thought you were done with me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilowon Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, GeoffB said: You ignore my previous posts where I clearly state that lifestyles can adversely effect the immune system allowing viruses to take hold. You just said that terrain have been debunked. That would mean that lifestyle does not adversely affect us. Because that is the crux of Terrain theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffB Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 13 minutes ago, kilowon said: Read the documents. The judge personal opinion have no bearing on the matter. That is why an expert was appointed by the judge and even he, a germ theory believer and of course not a real expert since viruses does not exist, have major issues with the six papers from Bardens. You are out of your league here. You do not understand the court papers you are referring to. The judgement was made on a legal technicality and nothing to do with viruses. Instead of blandly saying "the whole paper" what specific part of the paper did the judges say that there was any doubt that viruses exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilowon Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, GeoffB said: You ignore my previous posts where I clearly state that lifestyles can adversely effect the immune system allowing viruses to take hold. What viruses take hold in the cases of diabetes and heart attack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffB Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 1 minute ago, kilowon said: You just said that terrain have been debunked. That would mean that lifestyle does not adversely affect us. Because that is the crux of Terrain theory. The crux of Terrain Theory is that germs and viruses do not exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilowon Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Just now, GeoffB said: You do not understand the court papers you are referring to. The judgement was made on a legal technicality and nothing to do with viruses. Instead of blandly saying "the whole paper" what specific part of the paper did the judges say that there was any doubt that viruses exist? The judge knew nothing about viruses, that is why he appointed a so called expert. Do keep up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilowon Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Just now, GeoffB said: The crux of Terrain Theory is that germs and viruses do not exist. Nope, No one in Terrain theory think that germ does not exist. In fact, Bechamps spend his whole live studying germ life cycles. You really have no idea what you talking about do you? And are you done with me or not. Cause i am a bit confused about that as one minute you say you are done with me and then the next minutes you are still commenting on my posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffB Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, kilowon said: I thought you were done with me? I am done with doing all the work of trawling through a very long scientific paper because you are too lazy to. You previously said that no scientific paper on SARS-CoV-2 had controls. I have proved you wrong. There are many, many SARS-CoV-2 scientific papers who all mention "mock infection controls". Some of those papers may not detail exactly what those mock infection controls are other than the well known protocols. If you want to know the exact ingredients of the substrate they used in the experiment and the mock experiment you will have to ask them if it's not mentioned in the paper. If it's the usual scientific ingredients there is nothing in there other than nutrients and antibiotics which won't have any adverse effect on the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffB Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 9 minutes ago, kilowon said: The judge knew nothing about viruses, that is why he appointed a so called expert. Do keep up. So where does it exactly say in the court papers that the Judges found that any of the papers did not prove the measles virus exists? You can't tell me because it is not in there. Lanka got off on a legal technicality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffB Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 14 minutes ago, kilowon said: Nope, No one in Terrain theory think that germ does not exist. In fact, Bechamps spend his whole live studying germ life cycles. You really have no idea what you talking about do you? And are you done with me or not. Cause i am a bit confused about that as one minute you say you are done with me and then the next minutes you are still commenting on my posts My mistake. They don't believe viruses exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilowon Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, GeoffB said: I am done with doing all the work of trawling through a very long scientific paper because you are too lazy to. You previously said that no scientific paper on SARS-CoV-2 had controls. I have proved you wrong. There are many, many SARS-CoV-2 scientific papers who all mention "mock infection controls". Some of those papers may not detail exactly what those mock infection controls are other than the well known protocols. If you want to know the exact ingredients of the substrate they used in the experiment and the mock experiment you will have to ask them if it's not mentioned in the paper. If it's the usual scientific ingredients there is nothing in there other than nutrients and antibiotics which won't have any adverse effect on the results. You have in no way prove me wrong. Someone saying they did control and actually doing a control is two totally different thing. You have yet to show me a paper on sarscov2 were a control was done. Because if a control was done then the paper should be able to explained what that process was. Else it is not a control. So then you have no idea how the control was done and yet here you are claiming it was a control. How do you know what was in there if you yourself admit to not knowing what was in there? You are rambling and contradicting yourself. BTW, The job of antibiotic is to kill life. The word literally means against life. How can you claim that antibiotics will not have an adverse effect on cells? Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 6 hours ago, GeoffB said: That is because I have never disagreed with David Icke before. Your livelihood and identity depends on this game you're propagating....you only care about you-you-you. You and your "holy" high-priests of the psuedo "science" of deception and modern day sorcery. Butchering "fetuses" taken out alive and tortured to provide parts and material for your fraudulent "research"("germ theory). Anti-human---anti-Spirit....."artificial intelligence"=you. Fear is your "god". Icke isn't going to change his mind. Too bad! You won't have any effect...anyone with any free-thought left and doesn't have a perceived conflict of interest can SEE through your bankrupt, corrupt, and self-serving deceitful modus-operandi. You cannot serve 2 masters. The one you're serving now has some not so nice plans for you, after your usefulness has expired---and it will. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilowon Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, GeoffB said: My mistake. They don't believe viruses exist. Exactly, so you are arguing against something which you have no clue what it is about. FFS, do some research before you spout cow dung Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilowon Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 1 minute ago, novymir said: Your livelihood and identity depends on this game you're propagating....you only care about you-you-you. You and your "holy" high-priests of the psuedo "science" of deception and modern day sorcery. Butchering "fetuses" taken out alive and tortured to provide parts and material for your fraudulent "research"("germ theory). Anti-human---anti-Spirit....."artificial intelligence"=you. Fear is your "god". Icke isn't going to change his mind. Too bad! You won't have any effect...anyone with any free-thought left and doesn't have a perceived conflict of interest can SEE through your bankrupt, corrupt, and self-serving deceitful modus-operandi. You cannot serve 2 masters. The one you're serving now has some not so nice plans for you, after your usefulness has expired---and it will. it is a religion now for them. They have tied their fate/faith to it and they will rather drown with it .Too much scientism kool aid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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