David Icke's claim that 'there is no virus'?

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

You're on fire with your editing today.. 

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[Guest]

5 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

You see, this is called a quality analysis. 

 

No it is not .... I have the video and it shows that they did not know what to do and so killed people with the treatment they used.

They were told it was something which it was not .... and like many .... they took the word of mainstream, which has now killed .... so very many.

 

Covid is bullshit.

 

You consider masks a 'good' thing which does no harm .... but that is your bias.

Where you live, YOU cannot say no and the rules there give no room to be exempt .... so you 'made yourself correct' by ignoring all information which which would require action from you!

You made the choice to continue your life style rather than 'change' (which would have meant leaving the place you are in).

A selfish action.

 

12 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

I've always been weary of people who seek power.

 

I am weary of people who are arrogant, condescending, self righteous and only believe what suits them. 

[Pabloisawake]

VIRUS NEVER isolated

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/04/jon-rappoport/dr-andrew-kaufman-refutes-isolation-of-sars-cov-2-he-does-step-by-step-analysis-of-a-typical-claim-of-isolation-there-is-no-proof-that-the-virus-exists/?fbclid=IwAR3pDmUmSrUq8SiXy9PTS2CJgQkwtOtgls_171h4zgA7Fo0JSvHRRvMAqjQ

[Scogan]

I think we are missing the huge fraud...........SCIENCE CREATED IT.          

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Scogan said:

I think we are missing the huge fraud...........SCIENCE CREATED IT.          

 

That maybe correct (I don't consider so) but if science did .... then they made a real shit bio-weapon (may as well just used the yearly flu to get the same death rate).

 

I think that MEDIA made it (and the worldwide promotion of same) .... without the media there is no worldwide virus killing millions!

[Ethel]

I think the folks who believe it was created in a lab are not ready yet to believe that there is no virus. It is too much of a red pill to swallow, it is unfathomable to some people, and so destructive to their world view that they would be left reeling and unable to make sense of the world any more. Ergo, the "it was created in a lab" narrative allows them to have one foot in "conspiracy theory" and one foot in "normal" society. 

 

That is ultimately going to be a difficult reality to live with as it creates a 'split' in one's self, fostering cognitive dissonance and inauthentic behavior. 

 

You can't have your cake and eat it. Pandering to people who are still asleep by this point will drain your energy and leave you feeling less hopeful.

 

Again, David has explained this very eloquently in the animated video he created. The key is the test. 

 

It's not a test. End of story, end of subject.

Edited June 11, 2021 by Ethel
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[Truthspoon]

26 minutes ago, Ethel said:

I think the folks who believe it was created in a lab are not ready yet to believe that there is no virus. It is too much of a red pill to swallow, it is unfathomable to some people, and so destructive to their world view that they would be left reeling and unable to make sense of the world any more. 

 

Not at all. I'm not invested either way, and I love red-pills.  Breakfast lunch and dinner, red pills all the way. Extra strong ones.

 

Instead of the bullshit and rhetoric why don't we get back to reality.

 

Why don't you TELL me why the virus doesn't exist.

What is killing all those people?

 

What is in the vaccine?

 

Are you telling me the dual-use virus modification programmes don't exist?

Isn't that a bit of a blue-pill perspective? Ohhhhh my lovely gubermint wouldn't do that to us....... why would they?

 

Too many holes in your argument. That's why it tends to revert to rhetoric instead of facts.

 

 

Edited June 11, 2021 by Truthspoon

[Ethel]

42 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

Why don't you TELL me why the virus doesn't exist.

 

I already have. So have lots of others. It is a waste of my energy to have to keep explaining it. David Icke has explained it also. Watch his video which gave an explanation for how they managed to pull this hoax off. 

 

To summarize; the test is not a test. The inventor of the test, in many interviews before he died, complained bitterly that cunts like Fauci were misrepresenting his invention, particularly where AIDS and HIV were concerned. Nobody is being tested for anything, capisce? These people that are ramming swabs up their noses, in their mouths and up their asses are metaphorically raping themselves, and the Satanist class who own us are aware of that analogy by the way. It's intended.

 

48 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

What is killing all those people?

 

This has been answered elsewhere, extensively. The number one culprit is Flu, closely followed by pneumonia. 

 

Add up the death figures for every single illness which has a respiratory component to it, and there you have your 'death figures' for 'Covid', i.e. people who dies of things like Flu or pneumonia but got a false positive on the 'test' which isn't a test. There were always people dying, death is not something new, amazingly. The only difference is that now a gigantic magnifying glass has been held up to death in general. It's a sleight of hand, see? The overall death figures aren't even any higher.

 

52 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

What is in the vaccine?

 

What does this have to do with whether you believe whether there is a virus or not? 

 

What's in the virus vaccine is a bunch of shit which nobody with an ounce of self-respect would want in their body. Cells which originated from an aborted fetus from the 70's. The MRNA shit; something which has absolutely no long-term studies associated with it. SM-102, a toxic, damaging chloroform derivative and lipid. A variety of other shite.

 

57 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

Are you telling me the dual-use virus modification programmes don't exist?

 

I don't care whether they do or don't, that's not what we're dealing with. You're in a state of cognitive dissonance because you know that when the penny finally drops, you're going to feel more alone, angry, depressed and despairing than ever before. Welcome to my world. That's your shadow. Embrace it, face it, plough through it. 

 

I am well aware the government would do anything. I'd be the last person to claim they have any ethics at all. But they haven't released a bio weapon. Get with the beat. You're off track. If conspiracy researchers were all on the same page, we would have found a strategy for awakening the masses by now.

1 hour ago, Truthspoon said:

Too many holes in your argument. That's why it tends to revert to rhetoric instead of facts.

 

This is about you. Your ego has attached to the idea of laboratories in Wuhan and likes the idea of that because, like I said you are trying to protect yourself from feelings you are not yet ready to face. 

 

Face them. Man up.

 

I literally don't have one other person on planet earth on the same page as me, not really. I am as good as alone in this world and I'm still not getting distracted by crap like Q anon or Wuhan laboratories. 

 

As painful as it is, deep down you know I'm right. And if you don't, you're heading for a heck of a fall.

[Scogan]

4 hours ago, ink said:

 

That maybe correct (I don't consider so) but if science did .... then they made a real shit bio-weapon (may as well just used the yearly flu to get the same death rate).

 

I think that MEDIA made it (and the worldwide promotion of same) .... without the media there is no worldwide virus killing millions!

 

 

When I was a kid I broke my mom's vase.  She loved that vase.  What did I do?  Covered it up... best superglue job ever.  She found out about 10 years later when I had the courage to fess up. 

 

No different here really.  Science spliced it together and they infected the world.  Does anyone think they will fess up to it? Hell no.  So they are doing the next best thing... supergluing the entire planet with these damn jabs.  Pretty fricking obvious to me.  That way when they do get caught they will say... "but we fixed the problem... and the population problem... aren't we the heroes" and no one that gives a fuck now will care then.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 11, 2021 by Scogan

[Mitochondrial Eve]

1 hour ago, Scogan said:

 

 

When I was a kid I broke my mom's vase.  She loved that vase.  What did I do?  Covered it up... best superglue job ever.  She found out about 10 years later when I had the courage to fess up. 

 

No different here really.  Science spliced it together and they infected the world.  Does anyone think they will fess up to it? Hell no.  So they are doing the next best thing... supergluing the entire planet with these damn jabs.  Pretty fricking obvious to me.  That way when they do get caught they will say... "but we fixed the problem... and the population problem... aren't we the heroes" and no one that gives a fuck now will care then.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I see it a different way.

 

Firstly your post suggests that you view the pandemic as an accident by comparing it to a kid kicking over a vase which then had to be superglued back together. I think this overlooks all of the evidence of pre-planning including Event 201, the 2012 Olympics, the Rockefeller Lockstep document, the SPARS document, the EU roadmap to vaccine passports and the various government advertising deals and contracts agreed before the extent of the pandemic was supposedly known. Do you not think that all of these pieces of evidence combined suggest premeditation?

 

I have previously posted in an older thread as to why the no virus theory is the best fit to this situation and the basis for DI's rationale in this respect.

 

DI believes that SARS-CoV-2 is fictitious because this gives the powers that (should not) be complete control over the narrative. This is not to say that people aren't getting ill and dying, just that the deaths aren't being caused by a "virus" that hasn't been proven to exist. Releasing a real bio-weapon comes with the risk that it could get out of control. What if it mutates (if such a phenomenon even exists)? Why take the risk if there are other safer options for the controllers?

 

Having a faked pandemic means that any story can be made up at any point to suit the cabal. They can dial the PCR test cycles up and down at a whim to generate more or less positive cases as they wish - either to prove the efficacy of vaccines or restrictive measures, or to create more panic over rising case numbers and new Variants of Concern™. It provides the flexibility to change the narrative as the controllers wish in response to public opinion, and to keep further gauging how the masses may respond so as to continue steering things towards the end goals of depopulation, global reset, transhumanism, all encompassing control over all aspects of our lives including bodily autonomy, and spiritual death.

 

There is no need to have a real disease causing organism to provide the illusion of a pandemic. Numbers of deaths can be manipulated by killing off the elderly and vulnerable at choice moments during peak seasons for deaths (often due to respiratory illnesses). This was achieved during the first lockdown by kicking elderly patients out of hospitals into care homes and placing DNRs on them whilst deterring people from attending hospitals and making access to other forms of healthcare extremely difficult. Added to this, there are now concerns about the (over)use of midazolam to send the poor victims to an early grave. It has been the restrictive measures which have created the excess deaths, of which a huge number have occurred in people's homes. Meanwhile, Covid-19 is recorded on death certificates for everyone who has tested positive within 28 (or possibly 60) days prior to their death, and these are included in the official death stats associated with Covid-19 even if other causes of death were obvious. The media keep pumping out the fear daily so that the general populace lose all critical thinking faculties - indeed, it seems that fear can be addictive and people become attached to it.

 

Current mainstream scientific consensus on proving the existence of a virus is via use of "sequence-based microbial identification" rather than from properly isolated and purified "virus" from an infected patient. This is wide open to fraud and can be used to pluck out genetic material that we all have in our bodies depending on the PCR cycle threshold. This allows for viruses - none of which have, in my view, definitively been proven to exist - to be the perfect cover story for any so-called pandemic.

 

The more I read about prior pandemics allegedly caused by viruses - such as HIV, avian flu, the Spanish flu, swine flu etc - the more I see the same narrative being repeated over and over again. Hysteria is whipped up when clusters of individuals are supposedly identified presenting with symptoms of a new deadly disease allegedly caused by a virus (or prions). Although the alleged disease can be explained through other causes such as pharmaceuticals, drugs, pesticides, vaccines and other poisons, a virus is always "found" to be the cause generating a race to produce a vaccine or pharmaceuticals to treat the disease. This is very lucrative for Big Pharma particularly as vaccines come with no concern to the manufacturers of being sued for causing injury or death. And the injections being produced are faster becoming more and more sinister and can be described as "experimental gene therapy" or "operating systems" rather than vaccines which ties in with the transhumanist agenda.

 

In light of the above, I don't think that there is any way that the controllers will let go of the dogma of germ theory as this would entirely remove any justiciation for Big Pharma to peddle their wares and/or for experimental therapies to be unleashed on an unsuspecting public. This is why I feel, out of all of DI's views on the pandemic, the "no virus" part attracts the most dissent and criticism because it is the biggest threat to the narrative. This forum has now seen so many new members come along and post an apparent genuine concern about his "no virus" view very rarely to return again, and never to engage in debate as to why his views are scientifically incorrect.

 

This is why I think the lab-leak theory is a total red herring. In my view, it is a desperate attempt to keep the threat of "viruses" alive and within our consciousness so that we do not lose the fear that keeps us within our cells (pun intended). Should germ theory and the field of virology be demolished, their favourite pandemic playbook narrative could never be played again!

[peter]

7 hours ago, Basket Case said:

I'm still a Troll and so is my Wife. 

Despite the editing.. 

 

Hence forth you shall be known as Shrek  oh green one

[Beaujangles]

8 hours ago, Truthspoon said:

 

Are you ok?

 

You're obviously better off being ignored. 

 

I'd like to help but I think you're probably more interested in conflict.

 

Ciao.

 

 

 

I am asking for answers and providing a link... if you want to ignore me please go ahead and join the others out there with their heads in the sand. I am not bothered and no I am not looking for conflict...I'm not sure how you come to that conclusion. If you wish to be defensive and ignore me...go ahead.

[DrCornwallis]

13 hours ago, Truthspoon said:

 

Dr Kaufman is a grifting douchebag.

 

Just an opinion.

 

The virus exists. I know people who have died from it. 

 

That said I believe the vaccine is much more dangerous.

 

People hanging on to out-of-date perspectives are going to get left-behind by reality.

 

The game has changed. We have learned a lot since those early days when we were rightly dubious. Some people have failed to learn or chosen to continue their lucrative grift.

 

It's becoming apparent that Covid 19 is a Chinese depopulation bio-weapon co-sponsored by Western governments....... the Chinese would do the lab work our governments didn't want to do. So blaming China is equally stupid. 

 

Blame Anthony Fauci, he has been balls-deep in the 'dual-use' technological aspects of viruses.

 

https://spectatorworld.com/topic/anthony-fauci-dual-use-gain-function-research-senate/

 

 

 

I don't anyone who has died from it, but know plenty of people who caught it, including myself....AND....it was here way before 'they' claimed it to be.

 

For myself, and everyone else I know who had it (some with PCR positive tests to 'back it up'), it wasn't such a big deal. Just a total ball ache and very very long winded, to the point where you start wondering if you have some underlying problem, and as you say, it was just the weirdest lurgy I ever had.......furthermore, since Covid, (I had it Dec19/Jan20), I have developed a lot of angina like symptoms, that I can't shake off, despite numerous ECG's and blood tests saying I am totally fine.

 

.....i think the bottom line is, if you are strong and healthy, you will brush it off no problem. If you have pre-existing heart or respiratory problems (as many geriatrics do), then it may just bump you off........seems like an awesome virus for an economy with a pending demographics time bomb coming close to detonating, doesn't it?

 

I refuse to wear masks anywhere (except for when I go to work offshore, as it is either masks, or no income), and just about got in a fight on the Nightbus home with some alky dick giving someone grief for not wearing a mask.

 

I also do not abide by any social distancing, and never have.

 

I fully subscribe to the idea that whole Covid19 theatre is stunt being pulled by a global elite who seem to be in a big hurry to push their control grid on humanity.

 

But....

 

......the virus is fkn real.....and to say that it doesn't exist and think you are being red pilled, is the height of fkn delusion.

 

People need to get real. Subscribing to such utter idiocy on toast as "there is no virus" is just as bad and unconstructive as having all your opinions and thoughts programmed into your head by the BBC.

 

As to the origins of it.....highly probably that it is a synthetic virus, and it is also my speculation that some sort of 'mishap' occurred here. Either it really was an accidental lab leak, or if it was intentional, then the virus quickly morphed into something much less lethal......But the whole 'Operation Lockdown' machinery was primed for the 'starting gun', which seemed to fire so the agenda came bolting out the blocks and has not looked back, despite the absurdity of it all.

 

........As scary pandemics go, Covid has been such a non-event and all the hysteria and scaremongering so farcical that anyone with a modicum of sense and wisdom has to see the whole shebang for the fraudulent stunt that it is........or so I would have thought......seems the masses are even dumber than I could have possibly imagined......(might not be such a bad thing if these dumbfks could be removed from the human genepool tbh).

Edited June 12, 2021 by DrCornwallis

[peter]

3 hours ago, DrCornwallis said:

the virus is fkn real.....and to say that it doesn't exist and think you are being red pilled, is the height of fkn delusion.

 

People need to get real. Subscribing to such utter idiocy on toast as "there is no virus" is just as bad and unconstructive as having all your opinions and thoughts programmed into your head by the BBC.

Weather you believe the virus exists or not is up to the individual, maybe some clarification would be beneficial. Since we now have  no cases of influenza A or B to speak of it seem rather obvious to me we have and old friend with a brand new name. It would possibly have been more prudent to say there is no new covid virus its an old one rebranded.

If it is a new virus or and old one I don't know , but I certainly know how to cure the pandemic virus or not .Turn the bloody idiot box off

[Pre-Raphaelite]

Viruses are around all the time. To say there is "no virus" is misleading. Every winter countries are hit by influenza, people get ill and people die. Covid-19 is simply influenza rebranded with a new name along with unprecedented fear escalation plus scare marketing.

 

Hardly any cases of 'flu recently is because it was renamed for manipulation and control and to bring in the so-called vaccine - a terrific moneymaker for some, including Hancock & Co.

[peter]

17 hours ago, ink said:

I am weary of people who are arrogant, condescending, self righteous and only believe what suits them. 

Shit ! that sounds like everyone on this planet, except me of course

[Mitochondrial Eve]

8 hours ago, DrCornwallis said:

 

I don't anyone who has died from it, but know plenty of people who caught it, including myself....AND....it was here way before 'they' claimed it to be.

 

For myself, and everyone else I know who had it (some with PCR positive tests to 'back it up'), it wasn't such a big deal. Just a total ball ache and very very long winded, to the point where you start wondering if you have some underlying problem, and as you say, it was just the weirdest lurgy I ever had.......furthermore, since Covid, (I had it Dec19/Jan20), I have developed a lot of angina like symptoms, that I can't shake off, despite numerous ECG's and blood tests saying I am totally fine.

 

I am curious to understand why you think the symptoms you had were Covid-19 over flu?

 

Here are the list of symptoms of Covid-19 according to the CDC.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/symptoms-testing/symptoms.html

 

People with COVID-19 have had a wide range of symptoms reported – ranging from mild symptoms to severe illness. Symptoms may appear 2-14 days after exposure to the virus. Anyone can have mild to severe symptoms. People with these symptoms may have COVID-19:

• Fever or chills
• Cough
• Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing
• Fatigue
• Muscle or body aches
• Headache
• New loss of taste or smell
• Sore throat
• Congestion or runny nose
• Nausea or vomiting
• Diarrhea

This list does not include all possible symptoms. CDC will continue to update this list as we learn more about COVID-19. Older adults and people who have severe underlying medical conditions like heart or lung disease or diabetes seem to be at higher risk for developing more serious complications from COVID-19 illness.

 

And here is the CDC's list of symptoms for flu including longer term complications:

 

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/symptoms.htm

 

Influenza (flu) can cause mild to severe illness, and at times can lead to death. Flu is different from a cold. Flu usually comes on suddenly. People who have flu often feel some or all of these symptoms:

• fever* or feeling feverish/chills
• cough
• sore throat
• runny or stuffy nose
• muscle or body aches
• headaches
• fatigue (tiredness)
• some people may have vomiting and diarrhea, though this is more common in children than adults.

*It’s important to note that not everyone with flu will have a fever.

Flu Complications

Most people who get flu will recover in a few days to less than two weeks, but some people will develop complications (such as pneumonia) as a result of flu, some of which can be life-threatening and result in death.

Sinus and ear infections are examples of moderate complications from flu, while pneumonia is a serious flu complication that can result from either influenza virus infection alone or from co-infection of flu virus and bacteria. Other possible serious complications triggered by flu can include inflammation of the heart (myocarditis), brain (encephalitis) or muscle (myositis, rhabdomyolysis) tissues, and multi-organ failure (for example, respiratory and kidney failure). Flu virus infection of the respiratory tract can trigger an extreme inflammatory response in the body and can lead to sepsis, the body’s life-threatening response to infection. Flu also can make chronic medical problems worse. For example, people with asthma may experience asthma attacks while they have flu, and people with chronic heart disease may experience a worsening of this condition triggered by flu.

 

Are the lists of symptoms not the same? Indeed, the CDC specifically state on the first link above that "because some of the symptoms of flu and COVID-19 are similar, it may be hard to tell the difference between them based on symptoms alone, and testing may be needed to help confirm a diagnosis."

 

And complications of flu can include inflammation of the heart which may explain your angina symptoms.

 

If your reason for thinking it was Covid-19 over flu is because you (or others) tested positive to "back it up", are you not aware that there are huge issues with the tests which should not be used for diagnosing an infection? Indeed the PCR testing protocol, which has been calibrated based on the Corman-Drosten paper, has been heavily criticised by a group of 22 experts who conducted an external peer review of it and found 10 major scientific flaws calling therefore for the paper's retraction - https://cormandrostenreview.com/report/. The flaws include problems with primer design to omission of cycle threshold recommendations, conflicts of interest and the likelihood that the paper was not peer reviewed.

 

I could go on into how this relates back to concerns over how SARS-CoV-2 and its predecessor SARS-CoV have not been isolated in pure form, lack of control experiments and issues with sequence-based microbial identification. But there are threads on this already which you may wish to take a look at.

 

 

[GeoffB]

Yes we know that the virus has not yet been isolated but that doesn’t mean it does not exist.

Yes we also know the PCR tests and Lateral Flow tests don’t work.

Covid has specific symptoms some of which are different to flu. Millions of health professionals around the world treating Covid patients can see those differences. Yes some patients with flu and other respiratory problems will be misdiagnosed with Covid after a false positive PCR test but we cannot ignore the diagnostic skills of the medical professionals.

As I mentioned before Dr Cameron Kyle-Sidell stated “I don’t know what it is, but I know that I have never seen it before. People are dying of a disease we don’t understand,.” And yet people on here dismiss his medical opinion and those of thousands of other eminent doctors, scientists, virologists and epidemiologists as mistaken.

The flu virus has temporarily disappeared because the more dominant Sars-Cov-2 has subsumed it within itself as explained in this article. https://medium.com/illumination-curated/the-unexpected-case-of-the-disappearing-flu-64fd1fa5e909

David Icke does not say viruses do not exist he just says that this one doesn’t because it has not yet been proved to exist by isolation. But in 2009 David is on video saying that the psychopaths may release a virus on humanity to reduce the population. Maybe they now have.

Covid is nowhere near as dangerous as it is being made out to be and it is this that has been weaponized to force an agenda onto the populace. Everyone on here agrees with that but where some of us disagree is whether the virus actually exists or not. I for one am convinced it is real and was manufactured in a lab. The fight should be against the agenda and not fighting between ourselves on whether the virus exists or not.

[Grumpy Owl]

@Mitochondrial Eve don't also forget the symptoms of hay fever:

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/hay-fever/?dm_i=3IW9,E2GC,2ZRV5F,1HCPP,1

 

Quote

Hay fever is usually worse between late March and September, especially when it's warm, humid and windy. This is when the pollen count is at its highest.

Check if you have hay fever

Symptoms of hay fever include:

• sneezing and coughing
• a runny or blocked nose
• itchy, red or watery eyes
• itchy throat, mouth, nose and ears
• loss of smell
• pain around your temples and forehead
• headache
• earache
• feeling tired

If you have asthma, you might also:

• have a tight feeling in your chest
• be short of breath
• wheeze and cough

Hay fever will last for weeks or months, unlike a cold, which usually goes away after 1 to 2 weeks.

 

A lot of symptoms similar to those of 'Covid-19', but hay fever is obviously a lot less lethal.

 

So this could explain why people think they have 'Covid-19' during the summer months, ie outside of 'flu season', yet there are far fewer hospitalisations.

 

And as hay fever can last 'for weeks or months', could this also be what is described as 'long Covid'?

 

 

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

38 minutes ago, GeoffB said:

Yes we know that the virus has not yet been isolated but that doesn’t mean it does not exist.

So, has not been proved to exist as you state.

 

 

39 minutes ago, GeoffB said:

Yes we also know the PCR tests and Lateral Flow tests don’t work.

Correct.

 

 

40 minutes ago, GeoffB said:

Covid has specific symptoms some of which are different to flu

See Mitochondrial Eve's post above...


 

[screamingeagle]

43 minutes ago, GeoffB said:

Yes we know that the virus has not yet been isolated but that doesn’t mean it does not exist.

Yes we also know the PCR tests and Lateral Flow tests don’t work.

Covid has specific symptoms some of which are different to flu. Millions of health professionals around the world treating Covid patients can see those differences. Yes some patients with flu and other respiratory problems will be misdiagnosed with Covid after a false positive PCR test but we cannot ignore the diagnostic skills of the medical professionals.

you are contradicting your self,covid is rebranded flu and those millions of workers are in fear of consequences if they tell the truth......

 

constant suppression of the truth or if you wish "the opposing views" is the best proof

 

society came a long way ,so they needed to push it back,pump up inflations.....

[Grumpy Owl]

45 minutes ago, GeoffB said:

Covid has specific symptoms some of which are different to flu. Millions of health professionals around the world treating Covid patients can see those differences. Yes some patients with flu and other respiratory problems will be misdiagnosed with Covid after a false positive PCR test but we cannot ignore the diagnostic skills of the medical professionals.

 

Here's how it works... patient complains of 'stomach cramps', patient then 'tests positive' for Covid, 'stomach cramps' then gets added to the list of 'Covid symptoms'.

 

Thats how we end up with symptoms that are different to the flu. The key is understanding the PCR tests being used, and that people are being wrongly 'diagnosed' with Covid.

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

2 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

Here's how it works... patient complains of 'stomach cramps', patient then 'tests positive' for Covid, 'stomach cramps' then gets added to the list of 'Covid symptoms'.

 

I have a good friend who was vomiting and had bad diarrhea last year. No respiratory problems at all. 

He was bad and very dehydrated. 

Highly likely it was food poisoning. 

 

PCR test showed positive. 

So diagnosed as Con-1984. 

 

Was in hospital for only 2 days. Was given IV drip to rehydrate and then sent home. 

 

Total BOLLOX. 

 

[CosmoGenesis]

15 hours ago, Ethel said:

 

I already have. So have lots of others. It is a waste of my energy to have to keep explaining it. David Icke has explained it also. Watch his video which gave an explanation for how they managed to pull this hoax off. 

 

To summarize; the test is not a test. The inventor of the test, in many interviews before he died, complained bitterly that cunts like Fauci were misrepresenting his invention, particularly where AIDS and HIV were concerned. Nobody is being tested for anything, capisce? These people that are ramming swabs up their noses, in their mouths and up their asses are metaphorically raping themselves, and the Satanist class who own us are aware of that analogy by the way. It's intended.

 

 

This has been answered elsewhere, extensively. The number one culprit is Flu, closely followed by pneumonia. 

 

Add up the death figures for every single illness which has a respiratory component to it, and there you have your 'death figures' for 'Covid', i.e. people who dies of things like Flu or pneumonia but got a false positive on the 'test' which isn't a test. There were always people dying, death is not something new, amazingly. The only difference is that now a gigantic magnifying glass has been held up to death in general. It's a sleight of hand, see? The overall death figures aren't even any higher.

 

 

What does this have to do with whether you believe whether there is a virus or not? 

 

What's in the virus vaccine is a bunch of shit which nobody with an ounce of self-respect would want in their body. Cells which originated from an aborted fetus from the 70's. The MRNA shit; something which has absolutely no long-term studies associated with it. SM-102, a toxic, damaging chloroform derivative and lipid. A variety of other shite.

 

 

I don't care whether they do or don't, that's not what we're dealing with. You're in a state of cognitive dissonance because you know that when the penny finally drops, you're going to feel more alone, angry, depressed and despairing than ever before. Welcome to my world. That's your shadow. Embrace it, face it, plough through it. 

 

I am well aware the government would do anything. I'd be the last person to claim they have any ethics at all. But they haven't released a bio weapon. Get with the beat. You're off track. If conspiracy researchers were all on the same page, we would have found a strategy for awakening the masses by now.

 

This is about you. Your ego has attached to the idea of laboratories in Wuhan and likes the idea of that because, like I said you are trying to protect yourself from feelings you are not yet ready to face. 

 

Face them. Man up.

 

I literally don't have one other person on planet earth on the same page as me, not really. I am as good as alone in this world and I'm still not getting distracted by crap like Q anon or Wuhan laboratories. 

 

As painful as it is, deep down you know I'm right. And if you don't, you're heading for a heck of a fall.

 

BASED.

 

 

[GeoffB]

My wife and I have both had Covid and have both previously had flu. In my case flu was worse than Covid but I was lethargic for a few weeks after Covid meaning I decided to stop being a front line worker and take 7 weeks off work as the government were paying me although I could have gone back a lot sooner.

My wife being a nurse had 14 days self isolation before going back to work. However, she lost her sense of smell and taste for months which you don't get from flu.

"Unlike the flu, COVID-19 can sometimes cause a person to suddenly lose their sense of smell (anosmia) or taste (ageusia)."

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu

Covid has killed more old and sick people than flu but I admit lockdowns have caused some of those deaths.

Therefore although there are many similarities between Covid and flu there are differences which a trained medical professional can discern.

The virus is real, different to flu, mutated hundreds of thousands of times and probably made in a lab.

It is not that much worse than a bad flu season but it is being used to bring in a draconian agenda.