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1 minute ago, kilowon said:

read the court document and you will see that that was not the only defence that Lanka was ready to challenge the court with. One part of his defence was to have RKI run control experiment to show the reality or not of virus. Once the court realized what that could mean for Rockefeller's medicine they caved. They wanted rid of him as quickly as possible. 

The Judges decided in Lanka's favour due to a legal technicality and the judges admitted that viruses exist.

There is nothing to stop Lanka paying to have that experiment done.

I wonder why he doesn't.

 

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23 minutes ago, GeoffB said:

The court document says no such thing.

Read again: 

The defendant submitted in the first instance that

the publications submitted did not meet the requirements set by the claim. The existence of the measles virus must be proven by a publication by the R ...- K ...- Institute (hereinafter: RKI), which is responsible for this in accordance with Section 4 of the Infection Protection Act (IfSG). This already results from the fact that with regard to the claim made in Germany, the rules of the IfSG specially created here for the demonstration in the area of infectious diseases should be applied. From the context of the award, its purpose clearly emerges to the effect that it should be clarified whether a documentation of the RKI corresponding to K ... 's postulate of the isolation of the pathogen is available.
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2 minutes ago, GeoffB said:

The Judges decided in Lanka's favour due to a legal technicality and the judges admitted that viruses exist.

There is nothing to stop Lanka paying to have that experiment done.

I wonder why he doesn't.

 

He has already had the control experiment done. Do keep up.

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Read again: 

The defendant submitted in the first instance that

the publications submitted did not meet the requirements set by the claim. The existence of the measles virus must be proven by a publication by the R ...- K ...- Institute (hereinafter: RKI), which is responsible for this in accordance with Section 4 of the Infection Protection Act (IfSG). This already results from the fact that with regard to the claim made in Germany, the rules of the IfSG specially created here for the demonstration in the area of infectious diseases should be applied. From the context of the award, its purpose clearly emerges to the effect that it should be clarified whether a documentation of the RKI corresponding to K ... 's postulate of the isolation of the pathogen is available.

That is a resume of Lanka's submission.

It is NOT a judgement.

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9 minutes ago, GeoffB said:

Many of them are.

One woman was shown to have natural immunity to the Spanish Flu 80 years later.

Since the Spanish flu was neither  a virus nor contagious, as proven by many experiment during that time, how did she acquired such immunity and what kind of experiment was done that showed that to be so?

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1 minute ago, kilowon said:

Since the Spanish flu was neither  a virus nor contagious, as proven by many experiment during that time, how did she acquired such immunity and what kind of experiment was done that showed that to be so?

In your opinion which I have shown is not based on knowledge of modern virology but in a religious cult like belief.

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Just now, GeoffB said:

Show me the link to his peer reviewed paper.

Peer reviewed? Do not make me laugh. You can go here and see how he carried out his control https://odysee.com/@DeansDanes:1/cpe-english:f and also see how Enders, the father of modern vaccination and a Rockefeller' goffer, accidently disproved measles in a control experiment. 1. Propagation in Tissue Cultures of Cytopathogenic Agents from Patients with Measles – 1945. https://pubmedinfo.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/propagation-in-tissue-cultures-of-cytopathogenic-agents-from-patients-with-measles.pdf
2. Measles Virus: A Summary of Experiments Concerned with Isolation, Properties, and Behavior – 1947. https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/pdf/10.2105/AJPH.47.3.275

 

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5 minutes ago, GeoffB said:

In your opinion which I have shown is not based on knowledge of modern virology but in a religious cult like belief.

Not my opinion. Actual scientific experiments carried out during the Spanish flu scamdemic. 

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42 minutes ago, GeoffB said:

The Medical Board of California complained about Cowan for giving an unlicensed drug to a cancer patient without seeing them or reading their notes in 2017 and told Cowan to either surrender his license as there was a disciplinary action against him or be put on probation for 5 years with extra training and banning him from treating cancer patients.
In other words he was "struck off".
https://quackwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/33/2021/02/cowan_license_surrender_2021.pdf
""Doctor" Thomas Cowan, who claimed that 5G caused the coronavirus, isn't surrendering his medical license because he's learned his lesson. Instead, he's watched how other quacks have become millionaires and plans to follow in their footsteps."
https://www.acsh.org/news/2021/02/10/how-quacks-become-millionaires-5g-covid-doctor-will-sell-supplements-15336
 

so you are agreeing with me that he was not disbarred

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36 minutes ago, GeoffB said:

I have an understanding of quantum physics, X Theory and M Theory and the scientific notion of alternative reality so yes Reptilian Entities from a parallel universe is a possibility.

I'm also fully signed up to the notion that the Rockefellers have been a malign force in medicine and everything else they have touched.

However, due to my understanding of modern virology I cannot accept that viruses do not exist.

So do you believe that the royal family are reptilian? The Rockefellers are not a malign force in medicine, they created what passed off as modern medicine. They are, through their stooges like Fauci and their modern day ancestors like Gates, pretty much responsible for modern virology.

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Having read pages and pages of this back and forth stuff, It is clear to me that viruses do exist.

 

If only iInsofaras  that is  their mainstream label

 

How do we better describe a biological defence system which the psychopathic, lying, mass murdering pharmaceutical industry define  as a  poison in order to give you very real poisons in the name of a cure ?

 

 

 

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26 minutes ago, GeoffB said:

Yes it is possible you have immunity but not everyone produces antibodies or Memory B and T Cells.

 

Out of likes but thanks. That 1968 flu knocked out half our school. I was in bed for about two weeks. Nasty thing is was but I have never experienced anything like it since.

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immunity is a big con. disease and germ theory is guff

 

the body breakdowns and cells become toxic due to environment, chemical, emotional, physical stress. The body repairs itself constantly. Sometimes the repairs require the massive expulsion of dead body material resulting in what is called symptoms.

 

 

 

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@Truthspoon

 

Will just repost this as so many posts after I made it and I wouldn't want you to miss the question (I can repost it over and over by the way) ....

 

I have to ask you TS .... and I 'like' you but I need to ask ....

 

You wore a mask and tried to defend that action on the forum as where you live decides what you do and you really have no say.

 

I wish to ask if you have had the injection as .... it would seem (from my little 'look') you would have no choice but to submit to it or have to lose your life style and leave the country!

 

So .... Are you jabbed TS and if not .... How have you circumvented that??

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Rather than a germ or a terrain theory, I believe in Nature, with good and bad.

 

Observe Nature: if something is wrong, it sets field for more wrong, and the same goes for the opposite.

 

I used to catch all the colds and it's been a while since I don't have any after I consciously changed my lifestyle.

 

We are drugged not only with medicines, radiation, pollution, manipulated thoughts, comfort, pleasure, etc, but also with food, all to keep us craving more endorphines that keep us in a momentary state of numbness of our real feelings/growth/reality.

 

We forgot to BREATHE. We don't NEED stuff, if we need it means we LACK. We are not lacking. We are perfect as we are. But we forgot. Hence why disease. It's simple.

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1 hour ago, kilowon said:

Not my opinion. Actual scientific experiments carried out during the Spanish flu scamdemic. 

There you go living in the past again.

I don't suppose there was a scientific paper?

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1 hour ago, MarcusOmouse said:

Having read pages and pages of this back and forth stuff, It is clear to me that viruses do exist.

 

If only iInsofaras  that is  their mainstream label

 

How do we better describe a biological defence system which the psychopathic, lying, mass murdering pharmaceutical industry define  as a  poison in order to give you very real poisons in the name of a cure ?

 

 

 

Yes viruses exist and the Covid experimental jab may be one of the greatest crimes against humanity.

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1 hour ago, zArk said:

immunity is a big con. disease and germ theory is guff

 

the body breakdowns and cells become toxic due to environment, chemical, emotional, physical stress. The body repairs itself constantly. Sometimes the repairs require the massive expulsion of dead body material resulting in what is called symptoms.

 

 

 

Environment, chemical, emotional, physical stress lowers the body's immunity allowing viruses to take hold.

 

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4 hours ago, novymir said:

Get it through your fucking head!.....you're not GOD! And neither are the rest of your fraudulent "authoritie$". You rule yourself.....leave the rest of us alone! Ass-hole... who the fuck asked you to rule their mind and life? Who the fuck wants your bull$hit theology? 

You operate exactly like the "conspiracy theorist" debunkers. Sneering arrogance, character assassination, and lies, appeals to matrix-corrupt bullshit.

Con-artist in denial. Your bull$hit isn't freeing. Or empowering.

 

The Truth is.

 

What's the so-called "scientific community" got to say about this bull$hit? They're ALL bought, paid-for, directed and controlled---by what? Most of those on this site aughta know...except for the ones employed, or otherwise dependant on this sorcery/black-magic voodoo "industry" passing itself off as the opposite of what it is. "Be safe". They're killing and maiming, and increasing enslavement of humans with their "be safe",,,, "we know best"...bullshit.

 

You're free to stay in hell if you insist. The rest will be leaving. Time is speeding up. Now.

 

 

Seriously?

 

This Geoff is being as polite as possible and look at how you are behaving...

 

You are not coming across well.

 

Why don't you read this and try to be a better man?

 

https://www.truthspoon.com/search/label/ego

 


The little voice tells us to be offended; tells us that our feelings are hurt and that we must punish, exact revenge or persecute the person who offended us. The chances are, the person who offended us was ALSO operating under the compulsions, instructions and suggestions of 'the little voice'. The little voice tells us to get angry and shout at people when we consider they have made an error, and at the same time, if we find out that it was our error after all then the SAME voice is the one which persecutes us with feelings of guilt. We cannot win against the voice. It plays all sides against the other and takes no final responsibility for the things it whispers to us.

The little voice leads us to misunderstand each other. To react with instinct which then develops into thoughts which then become acts or words. All on the basis of a misunderstanding.

This is also the voice, and this is its greatest trick: he also tells us that we are already perfect, that we don't need to change ourselves and improve, and seek to consciously evolve. That there is 'nothing wrong with me'. He makes us blind to our faults or at least, makes us turn a blind indulgent eye to them, because after all, it's 'us' and we understand ourselves and know what we really meant, and that we had the best motives at heart. He makes us careless and complacent; satisfied and insensitive to the 'reality' of other people's feelings and the possibility that deep within themselves, they really are trying to be the best they can be.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Truthspoon said:

 

 

Seriously?

No?,,,,,,, it's Comedy Hour?

"Scientism Style". .........what are these "vaccines" for again? Oh, yeah......the boogeyman.....funny how it's the boogeyman actually wearing a human skin torturing and murdering humans and animals in the Holy name of "Scientific Research".

 

"These are the approved US vaccines containing aborted fetal cells: [13]

·         Adenovirus · ·         Barr Labs., Inc ·         WI-38
·         Chickenpox ·         Varivax ·         Merck & Co. ·         MRC-5 & WI-38
·         Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis, Polio, HIB ·         Pentacel ·         Sanofi Pasteur ·         MRC-5
·         Hepatitis A ·         Havrix ·         GlaxoSmithKline ·         MRC-5
·         Hepatitis A ·         Vaqta ·         Merck & Co. ·         MRC-5
·         Hepatitis A-B ·         Twinrix ·         GlaxoSmithKline ·         MRC-5
·         Measles, Mumps, Rubella ·         MMR II ·         Merck & Co. ·         WI-38
·         Measles, Mumps, Rubella, Chickenpox ·         ProQuad ·         Merck & Co. ·         MRC-5 & WI-38
·         Rabies ·         Imovax ·         Sanofi Pasteur ·         MRC-5
·         Shingles ·         Zostavax ·         Merck & Co. ·         MRC-5

 

"Not only are the babies delivered alive, horrifically, their organs are often removed when they are still alive.[18] This is how they got the HEK293 kidney cells used in the manufacture of the vaccines and why Pfizer wanted it to remain a secret:

The details of HEK293’s brutal – and from all appearances, until very recently, largely undisclosed – origins explain the company’s deep discomfort. Contrary to nearly a half-century of misrepresentation and obfuscation, HEK293’s creation did NOT arise from an “abortion” as everyday people understand it.

To harvest a viable embryonic kidney … sufficiently healthy children old enough to have adequately-developed kidneys must be removed from the womb, alive, typically by cesarean section, and have their kidneys cut out. This must take place without anesthesia for the child, which would lessen the viability of the organs.

… The deliberate killing of an unwanted child (a little girl, in the case of HEK 293) took place in the tortuous manner it did precisely to obtain her organs for research. The harvest of her organs was the direct cause of her death, prior to which, she was a living child, outside the womb.[19]"

https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/2/frontlinenews/aborted-fetal-cells-and-vaccines-a-scandal-much-bigger-than-pfizers-whistleblower-ever-imagined/

 

 

ps;

I knew I was opening myself up for an attempted reversal..(..as noted in my earlier post.)..and then there's you, telling me I need to get my ego in check....while self-promoting your own website...seriously?

BTW, too bad about my attitude...I have no respect for con-artists, torturers, or murderers. Conscious or unconscious.

Does he need to get his ego in check too?

 

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Wow, this has really turned into a shouting match. I hope all involved do see that no one is even close to convincing the other?

 

But I must say that the most important part is overlooked. I guess everyone can agree that there I something microscopic that can be found, call it virus or exosome, that doesn't matter. The question is if this "thing" is moved from one individual to another, does the other individual get sick in the same way as the first? From what I have understood they did some experiments long ago where sick people coughed and sneezed och healthy people, and they even injected pus from the sick into the healthy, but they were unable to make them sick? I don't know if this experiment has been done again, but wouldn't that be the proof that is needed for the virus-theory to be correct?

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11 hours ago, atenea said:

Rather than a germ or a terrain theory, I believe in Nature, with good and bad.

 

Observe Nature: if something is wrong, it sets field for more wrong, and the same goes for the opposite..

THC is a miracle cure for the body and mind. It resynch s the body energy

 

but also like New German medicine shows emotional stress causes cancer and other illness.

Poisons in the water cause chemical stress

 

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10 hours ago, GeoffB said:

Environment, chemical, emotional, physical stress lowers the body's immunity allowing viruses to take hold.

 

pleomorphic organisms are discovered in live blood. Bacteria, fungus, virus  are interchangeable cellular forms

 

Allopathic medicine compartmentalises and categorises disease and illness. There are hidden, ignored and not recognised overlap between illnesses.

 

COVID19 overlaps with Flu, the common cold and 'silent hypoxia'. 

 

100+ years have yet to produce scientific evidence of contagion or infection.

 

https://khn.org/morning-breakout/dr00017448/

 

not one AIDS patient (immune deficient) was infected wtih SARS (highly contagious)

 

they do try to prove their theories using people as lab experiemtns

 

 

 

 

 

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