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On 6/7/2021 at 2:28 PM, DrCornwallis said:

I mean, c'mon to fk, seriously?

 

Why does he have to peddle this 'there is no virus b.s.'? Half the country caught it before Covid was even a brand name.

 

 

 

Look at it metaphysically.

 

Once your psyche accepts the idea that there is a deadly SARS CoV 2 virus then you accept the outcome and what is to follow.  While you might not ascribe to them in one form or another, you most certainly ascribe to the lunacy of others that do.  You make allowances for a 'vaccine' while refusing it for yourself, calling others crazy for getting it.  You make allowances for lockdowns, mask wearing, political measures, while refusing none, some or all.   

 

By refusing to recognize it you refuse the remedy outright.  And what is the remedy being forced on us?  A deadly jab.  Children that have natural immunity are now having serious side effects.  Jabbed bodies are literally creating a gain-of-function spike protein. Loss of livelihood.  Communists China being hailed as a role model for containing outbreaks.  The great reset.  This Jab does alter DNA, studies prove that. Treatments that have been around for decades (hydroxy... vitamin D, Zinc, etc) have been proven effective, that alone was sufficient to call off a vaccine, but they lie to us saying they do not work. So why are they pushing the vaccine?  We have been lied to... over a virus that has less than 1% mortality.  That speaks to a much larger sinister agenda.  

 

So I get where David is coming from.  Personally I think the virus is real, U.S. funded science spliced it together, it accidentally released from the Wuhan Lab, and we are all watching the coverup of BAD SCIENCE.  But do I know that for sure?  Not at all.  I only piece information together based on what is out there, who is to say ALL information out there isn't a ruse?

 

Carry it one step further.  If this virus was manmade in a lab via gain-of-function, it isn't a natural virus, and that would mean David is technically right.  There is no NATURAL SARS CoV-2 virus.  

 

All things manmade are SYNTHETIC.  Including this damn mRNA shit.  No way, no how.  At a minimum, this is the largest coverup of SCIENCE SCREW UPS in the history of man; or it's depopulation-101.  

 

 

 

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On 6/7/2021 at 6:09 PM, DrCornwallis said:

 

Nah, no manual required...have a m8 like that....well I did, kind of fell out with me cos I wouldn't buy into his Q-Anon b.s.

 

I have been following David Icke for years....he has a big impact and opens up a lot of minds to other possibilities, that is for sure.....but some of what he comes out with is just bat-shit crazy.....and it hasn't gone unnoticed that he NEVER corrects himself when he is wrong, but OFTEN reinvents what he 'was saying all along'.

 

......strong likelihood is, is that Covid 19 virus, is indeed a result of 'gain of function' research, probably carried out in Wuhan, with actors within the US Deep State in full awareness. Probably, it was meant to be far more deadly than it turned out to be, but quickly evolved into something much milder.....all just my speculations of course, but one thing is for sure.....THERE IS A FKN VIRUS!

 

Just because you think something is 'bat shit crazy' doesnt make it so. I think you will find that DI does correct himself when needed - and that is what you are trying to coerce to 'reinvents what he is saying'.

 

'Strong likelihood' ...based on what exactly?  and 'probably' is again a speculative word so yes of course we can see it is 'all just your speculations'

 

...and as for a  'FKN VIRUS'.....yeah there are a gazillion of 'em. But not one has been identified as Covid 19.

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All diseases are created in the mind, the body is just a reflection, I don't know if you are ready for such conversation. But no, there is no virus outside, since everything is within.

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I am 100% with David on this.

There is nothing. It's an illusion created by the unseen force, Worldwide Governments and the mainstream media.

It's based on a few simple lies.

A test which is as reliable as a London bus and the absolute drivel that asymptomatic transmission is possible.

And the best one is the injectable that doesn't stop you catching it lol

If you were watching a big budget sci-fi film your eyes would be rolling back in your head.

They claim science is behind this and they use a test closing in on forty years old.

There is no science.

It's a scam. Once you know it's a scam you can see through all the MSM bullshit.

This has nothing to do with health or a virus.

It's a psychological, fascistic, tyrannical beatdown of the human race to stick an injectable into as many gullible humans as possible.

If you can't see it your way passed saving.

 

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On 6/7/2021 at 10:28 PM, DrCornwallis said:

Surely LOADS of people in here (followers of David Icke), must have either caught, or know someone who caught this weird as fk lurgy, around Dec19/Jan20 and beyond, with all these really weird symptoms, unlike any other cold/flu they ever had, that lasted for ages, went away, then came back, then went away, and came back again.....leaving many with quite concerning after effects.

Firstly I've been following David Icke for years and have read all his books and saw him live at Wembley with his 10 hour presentation and think he is a genius. However, I cannot agree that this virus is not real. My wife and I both had it in our 60's after a visit to London in March 2020 and the symptoms were different to ordinary flu. My wife is a nurse of 45 years and she had it worse than me but it was different to anything else she has had.

There was the famous video by Dr Cameron Kyle-Sidell early on where he described COVID-19 as “a disease that does not make sense to us — a disease for which our usual treatment does not work.”

“Some are questioning whether this is a lung disease causing blood problems or a blood disease causing lung problems,” he said.

“I don’t know what it is, but I know that I have never seen it before. People are dying of a disease we don’t understand,.”

Kyle-Sidell has also said that “COVID-19 lung disease, as far as I can see, is not a pneumonia” but seems to be “some kind of viral-induced disease most resembling high altitude sickness.”

David Icke has said that flu and other ailments are being redesignated as Covid, that maybe true in some instances but not overall.

He also says that flu has disappeared because it is now being called Covid but virologists will tell you that viruses interact with each other and it's likely that Covid is more dominant than the flu virus and has subsumed the flu virus making it disappear.

So although I think David is wrong on this one my own thoughts are that this is a real virus made in a lab possibly at Fort Detrick in the USA and transported and let loose in Wuhan during The World Military Games to destabilize China. The Deep State and the Dr Strangeloves in the US thought it would be localized like SARS-Cov-1 and they didn't realize it would be so virulent with the worldwide blowback.

Having said that the media reporting from the very start has been hysterical, the virus is only a problem for the old and infirm and lockdowns and masks are totally unnecessary and it has given governments the excuse for draconian, big brother measures. The vaccines are also a potential bioweapon and although I am 65 I won't be letting them anywhere near me.

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On 6/7/2021 at 10:28 PM, DrCornwallis said:

I mean, c'mon to fk, seriously?

 

Surely LOADS of people in here (followers of David Icke), must have either caught, or know someone who caught this weird as fk lurgy, around Dec19/Jan20 and beyond, with all these really weird symptoms, unlike any other cold/flu they ever had, that lasted for ages, went away, then came back, then went away, and came back again.....leaving many with quite concerning after effects. Heard of lots of people been coughing their lungs up ever since.....I personally developed symptoms that made me quite concerned for my cardio vascular health, although the doc assures me that my cardiogram and blood test results are all good.

 

I aint getting the Vaxx, and everyone who gets the Vaxx drops dead over next winter's round of cold n flu bugs which they will dress up as new variants, then that is fine by me....

 

....But THERE IS DEFINITELY A VIRUS?

 

Why does he have to peddle this 'there is no virus b.s.'? Half the country caught it before Covid was even a brand name.

 

(or am I just a 77th Brigade agitor/bot/spy/spook/infiltrator etc etc)

 

(only 1 post! That gives the game away a bit don't you all think?)

Lol

 

Dr Kaufman would educate you.

 

Nobody caught anything. Freedom of information act documents SHOW THERE ARE NO EXTRA burials and crematations in major cities.

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On 6/9/2021 at 3:21 AM, eSlacK said:

All diseases are created in the mind, the body is just a reflection, I don't know if you are ready for such conversation. But no, there is no virus outside, since everything is within.

I know what you are saying but bacteria is real. I grew bacteria and mold on a plate when testing my old bedroom. It is objectively real. Viruses are diagnosed using proteins native to the body. No exteral virus exists.

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8 minutes ago, Pabloisawake said:

Lol

 

Dr Kaufman would educate you.

 

Nobody caught anything. Freedom of information act documents SHOW THERE ARE NO EXTRA burials and crematations in major cities.

 

Dr Kaufman is a grifting douchebag.

 

Just an opinion.

 

The virus exists. I know people who have died from it. 

 

That said I believe the vaccine is much more dangerous.

 

People hanging on to out-of-date perspectives are going to get left-behind by reality.

 

The game has changed. We have learned a lot since those early days when we were rightly dubious. Some people have failed to learn or chosen to continue their lucrative grift.

 

It's becoming apparent that Covid 19 is a Chinese depopulation bio-weapon co-sponsored by Western governments....... the Chinese would do the lab work our governments didn't want to do. So blaming China is equally stupid. 

 

Blame Anthony Fauci, he has been balls-deep in the 'dual-use' technological aspects of viruses.

 

https://spectatorworld.com/topic/anthony-fauci-dual-use-gain-function-research-senate/

 

 

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All I can say is, 'show me the virus.' Apparently, from everything I've researched so far, it hasn't been isolated, by anyone, anywhwere.

 

I know modern science and many scientists are corrupt, but the 'scientific method' iitself is sound, and the most basic tenet of this method is that you can't ever prove something is 100% right, but you can destroy a theory with just one reproducable result that doesn't fit. So, without any actual pure virus to experiment on then SARS CoV-2 remains a theory which cannot be tested.

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7 minutes ago, webtrekker said:

All I can say is, 'show me the virus.' Apparently, from everything I've researched so far, it hasn't been isolated, by anyone, anywhwere.

 

 

So what is it they're killing off old people with in the vaccine?

 

(feel free to make something up)

 


Are all viruses fake?


Are we really going to go there.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Truthspoon said:

 

Dr Kaufman is a grifting douchebag.

 

Just an opinion.

 

The virus exists. I know people who have died from it. 

 

That said I believe the vaccine is much more dangerous.

 

People hanging on to out-of-date perspectives are going to get left-behind by reality.

 

The game has changed. We have learned a lot since those early days when we were rightly dubious. Some people have failed to learn or chosen to continue their lucrative grift.

 

It's becoming apparent that Covid 19 is a Chinese depopulation bio-weapon co-sponsored by Western governments....... the Chinese would do the lab work our governments didn't want to do. So blaming China is equally stupid. 

 

Blame Anthony Fauci, he has been balls-deep in the 'dual-use' technological aspects of viruses.

 

https://spectatorworld.com/topic/anthony-fauci-dual-use-gain-function-research-senate/

 

 

 

Just wondering...is your user pic supposed to look like an eye with the sun in the middle...?

 

How do you know that anyone died of 'covid'...did you ask for the isolate and compare findings with your deceased acquaintances body materials..?

 

Unless outright proven to exist, this claimed virus is merely an illusion being used to control people.

 

The flu has disappeared yet you say that 'covid' is more dominant - I'm guessing you believe the claimed 'covid' computer generated spiked ball had it out with the flu bug and took it over. You didn't mention how your believed 'covid' symptoms differ from the flu...could you elaborate?

 

Being that most 'covid' 'sufferers' are without symptoms are you suggesting this brutal 'covid' bug goes into dormant mode or simply gets a strop on and refuses to react inside those whose blood tastes 'off' ....is there a reason in your mind that explains this?

 

Cemeteries are no busier

Funeral Directors no busier

Hospitals less busy

Doctors less busy

 

But we are in a pandemic of epic proportions...so we are told....

 

I have to say anyone who cannot join the dots here leaves me questioning their purpose....

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11 minutes ago, Beaujangles said:

 

Just wondering...is your user pic supposed to look like an eye with the sun in the middle...?

 

 

 

An eye with the sun in the middle? WTF?

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How do you know that anyone died of 'covid'...did you ask for the isolate and compare findings with your deceased acquaintances body materials..?

 

 

 

What?

 

Whatever, it's obvious you're from another planet......have fun.

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Pabloisawake said:

I know what you are saying but bacteria is real. I grew bacteria and mold on a plate when testing my old bedroom. It is objectively real. Viruses are diagnosed using proteins native to the body. No exteral virus exists.

Yes, but still,  no illness will stick to you, unless you are a vibrational match.
This is a well know book with a list of the mental causes for each illness: https://www.heartlandhealingarts.com/blog/2018/6/19/emotional-and-mental-causes-of-illness-the-list-by-louise-hay

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16 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

 

So what is it they're killing off old people with in the vaccine?  

 

(feel free to make something up)
Are all viruses fake? 

 

 
Are we really going to go there.
 
 

 

 

 

So what is it they're killing off old people with in the vaccine?  A. Do you know for sure that it isn't aiding a swift demise?

 

(feel free to make something up) A. (I dont need to make something up, its all out there....) . They try to get the elderly 'diagnosed' with 'covid' then decide they should be placed on end of life care. Then they die. They also vaccinated them first and by some sheer coincidence this sped up their deaths.

 


Are all viruses fake? 

A. 

''Viruses are not living things. Viruses are complicated assemblies of molecules, including proteins, nucleic acids, lipids, and carbohydrates, but on their own they can do nothing until they enter a living cell. ... Therefore, viruses are not living things.Jun. 9, 2004''  Are Viruses Living? - virology blog
 
based on the above and in the words of Kary Mullis there are millions of viruses - and its unlikely that you wont find at least one of them in anyone. The matter at hand in this thread is.... 'covid19' has not been isolated as a virus...therefore it cannot be amplified via PCR as a standalone virus. Further referencing Kary Mullis... he said PCR can amplify anything to give you the ability to make something out of nothing.
 
Are we really going to go there.
 
A. Why dont you want to 'go there' ?
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10 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

 

 

An eye with the sun in the middle? WTF?

 

 

What?

 

Whatever, it's obvious you're from another planet......have fun.

 

 

 

 

Yes, that would be a typically dismissive answer. 

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5 minutes ago, Beaujangles said:

 

Yes, that would be a typically dismissive answer. 

 

Are you ok?

 

You're obviously better off being ignored. 

 

I'd like to help but I think you're probably more interested in conflict.

 

Ciao.

 

 

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3 hours ago, Truthspoon said:

 

Dr Kaufman is a grifting douchebag.

 

Just an opinion.

 

The virus exists. I know people who have died from it. 

 

That said I believe the vaccine is much more dangerous.

 

People hanging on to out-of-date perspectives are going to get left-behind by reality.

 

The game has changed. We have learned a lot since those early days when we were rightly dubious. Some people have failed to learn or chosen to continue their lucrative grift.

 

It's becoming apparent that Covid 19 is a Chinese depopulation bio-weapon co-sponsored by Western governments....... the Chinese would do the lab work our governments didn't want to do. So blaming China is equally stupid. 

 

Blame Anthony Fauci, he has been balls-deep in the 'dual-use' technological aspects of viruses.

 

https://spectatorworld.com/topic/anthony-fauci-dual-use-gain-function-research-senate/

 

 

lol

 

WHAT NONSENSE.

 

There is no virus.

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1 hour ago, Truthspoon said:

 

So what is it they're killing off old people with in the vaccine?

 

(feel free to make something up)

 


Are all viruses fake?


Are we really going to go there.

 

 

 

ALL so called viruses are made by the body. None are external. 

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1 hour ago, Truthspoon said:

 

So what is it they're killing off old people with in the vaccine?

 

(feel free to make something up)

 


Are all viruses fake?


Are we really going to go there.

 

 

 

 

Sorry, i don't feed Trolls.

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1 hour ago, eSlacK said:

Yes, but still,  no illness will stick to you, unless you are a vibrational match.
This is a well know book with a list of the mental causes for each illness: https://www.heartlandhealingarts.com/blog/2018/6/19/emotional-and-mental-causes-of-illness-the-list-by-louise-hay

 

'What? No, this is nonsense. Sorry, it needs to be said.

 

Let's not go back to the dark ages here.

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17 hours ago, GeoffB said:

Firstly I've been following David Icke for years and have read all his books and saw him live at Wembley with his 10 hour presentation and think he is a genius. However, I cannot agree that this virus is not real. My wife and I both had it in our 60's after a visit to London in March 2020 and the symptoms were different to ordinary flu. My wife is a nurse of 45 years and she had it worse than me but it was different to anything else she has had.

There was the famous video by Dr Cameron Kyle-Sidell early on where he described COVID-19 as “a disease that does not make sense to us — a disease for which our usual treatment does not work.”

“Some are questioning whether this is a lung disease causing blood problems or a blood disease causing lung problems,” he said.

“I don’t know what it is, but I know that I have never seen it before. People are dying of a disease we don’t understand,.”

Kyle-Sidell has also said that “COVID-19 lung disease, as far as I can see, is not a pneumonia” but seems to be “some kind of viral-induced disease most resembling high altitude sickness.”

David Icke has said that flu and other ailments are being redesignated as Covid, that maybe true in some instances but not overall.

He also says that flu has disappeared because it is now being called Covid but virologists will tell you that viruses interact with each other and it's likely that Covid is more dominant than the flu virus and has subsumed the flu virus making it disappear.

So although I think David is wrong on this one my own thoughts are that this is a real virus made in a lab possibly at Fort Detrick in the USA and transported and let loose in Wuhan during The World Military Games to destabilize China. The Deep State and the Dr Strangeloves in the US thought it would be localized like SARS-Cov-1 and they didn't realize it would be so virulent with the worldwide blowback.

Having said that the media reporting from the very start has been hysterical, the virus is only a problem for the old and infirm and lockdowns and masks are totally unnecessary and it has given governments the excuse for draconian, big brother measures. The vaccines are also a potential bioweapon and although I am 65 I won't be letting them anywhere near me.

 

You see, this is called a quality analysis. 

 

It is the difference between intelligence and nonsense.

 

I too have been a supporter of David Icke for a long time but I am not going to remove my brain and put it in the bin just to keep in  favour with the mods.

 

Thank yourself lucky that you haven't lost anyone due to Covid. 

 

But to pretend it doesn't exist, even now, is somewhat insensitive.

 


 

 

 

 

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