k_j_evans Posted December 22, 2024 Share Posted December 22, 2024 23 hours ago, Captainlove said: Where i live in the uk it starts getting dark around 1630 and its the 21st so the shortest day today. More or less same here. Can't do much outside after about 4pm. But 54 degrees north here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoScota Posted December 22, 2024 Share Posted December 22, 2024 On 12/21/2024 at 7:48 PM, Mitochondrial Eve said: Well now I know I wasn't just getting it wrong, I would agree that it shouldn't be shrugged off. I am in the south of the UK so I don't know if it is localised or a bigger thing? Do you happen to have a link to the news report where it was mentioned? I would be interested in viewing it. Edited to Add @LastOneLeftInTheCounty Having looked this up, according to the Time and Date website the earliest sunset for London (latitude of 52 degrees north) was on December 12th. So the evenings have been getting lighter since then whereas the mornings have been getting darker and will continue to do so until December 30th. December 21st is still the shortest day overall. https://www.timeanddate.com/news/astronomy/december-solstice-2024 Haven't really noticed the evenings but the mornings, yep, they have been darker longer but didn't know this will go on for another ten days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted December 30, 2024 Author Share Posted December 30, 2024 More fake weather news... UK weather map shows exactly when wall of snow reaches West Midlands Quote New weather maps indicate half of the UK could be blanketed with up to 20cm of snow in the next 48 hours, as meteorologists monitor advancing snowy conditions. WXCharts has depicted a snow front sweeping across Britain on New Year's Day, predicting snowfall reaching Birmingham and the wider West Midlands on the morning of January 2. The snowstorm is expected to push southward, forecasting that by January 2, Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales, parts of northern England and the Midlands will find themselves under a white cover. Snow depth maps for January 2 suggest northern England could wake up to a substantial 20cm of settled snow, while northern Scotland might see accumulations close to 15cm according to WXCharts' projections. from: https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/uk-weather-map-shows-exactly-30680999 You'll notice in the above image that the 'run' date and the 'valid' date have been cropped out, so you'll have to take these journalists' (it took two of them to come up with this?) word that it is valid for the 2nd Jan as stated. Now if I just pop on over to WXCharts and have a look for myself, this is what I see... As you can see, the model data run is from today, and the chart is 'valid' for the future date of 2nd Jan. Actually looks like a fine dry day now! Any snow that will have fallen will have done so on the 1st, these journalists need to work on 'interpreting' these weather maps as they haven't got a grip on the difference between snowfall and snow accumulation. I guarantee that if you go over to WXCharts in the morning and have a look, then the forecast model will have changed again and the charts will look different. And that is why these click-bait journalists are peddling nonsense about an "exact date" or "exact hour" about a week in advance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoScota Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Again promised snow over crimbo but accuvue is saying sunday, so shall see. Sitting at -5C which is normal but it feels warmer tbh. Maybe these temps increases are to do with my change In Glencoe we had -15C as normal with lots of snow, which with nearby ski centres this is what you would expect and prepare for. And am pretty sure the snowy climate came before the ski centres. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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k_j_evans Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 hours ago, Fifth element said: There is actually very little wind data for the UK before 1980 - it just isn't there or isn't publicly available. Norway, yes, some bit of Ireland, yes, England and Scotland, no. Some sea wind data from about 1900, but none for land - so hard to tell if this is actually abnormal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifth element Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Blending seasons not normal..what happened to our seasons.. It goes from drought to deluge to cold to warm.. The late 80s and 90s was the stormiest period that I ve experienced,the 70s and most of 80s far less atlantic storms much more classic cold winters..which we don t get now 2010 was the last one.. Blizzard warnings on the beach of the Gulf of America. Never seen snow like this in the South and in a few days it will be in the 70s! [and from another.Over the past few months the Earth has gotten a taste of what is to come. In the Canada and the US, in Argentina, in Europe and Northern Africa, in Tasmania – wild swings from record hot to record cold weather. Shadow of Ezra on X: "New Orleans, Louisiana has already received more than twice the amount of snow that Anchorage, Alaska, has seen since the start of meteorological winter. A blizzard warning is now in effect for parts of southern Louisiana due to a historic and deadly winter storm that spanned https://t.co/zeL8AhB92r" / X New Orleans, Louisiana has already received more than twice the amount of snow that Anchorage, Alaska, has seen since the start of meteorological winter. A blizzard warning is now in effect for parts of southern Louisiana due to a historic and deadly winter storm that spanned over 1,500 miles. Long-time residents of New Orleans, who have witnessed the city’s rare snowfalls, say they've only seen a handful of snowstorms—and never one quite like this. As of Wednesday morning, New Orleans had accumulated 10 inches of snow, a stark contrast to the half-inch that fell during the city's last snowfall in December 2004. What happened to climate change? Rare ‘Explosive’ Phenomenon Confirmed as ‘Weather Bomb’ set to Hit Ireland January 23, 2025 https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/storm-eowyn-weather-bomb-ireland-34535519 A rare weather phenomenon known as ‘explosive cyclogenesis’, otherwise called a ‘weather bomb’, is expected to occur with the arrival of Storm Eowyn in Ireland late on Thursday night and into Friday morning. The UK Met Office has published a graphic explaining the phenomenon, which involves a significant drop of air pressure in a short period of time. N Atlantic is experiencing repeated storms is not surprising, nor is the fierce cold and snow in subtropical Florida and New Orleans. This is hardly heat from Global Warming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted February 2 Author Share Posted February 2 Of course it did! Climate change made LA fires worse, scientists say Quote Climate change was a major factor behind the hot, dry weather that gave rise to the devastating LA fires, a scientific study has confirmed. It made those weather conditions about 35% more likely, according to World Weather Attribution - globally recognised for their studies linking extreme weather to climate change. The authors noted that the LA wildfire season is getting longer while the rains that normally put out the blazes have reduced. The scientists highlight that these wildfires are highly complex with multiple factors playing a role, but they are confident that a warming climate is making LA more prone to intense fire events. "Climate change increased the risk of the devastating LA wildfires," said Dr Clair Barnes, from Imperial College London, the study's lead author. from: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd9qy4knd8wo Oh there you go, use of that buzzword "complex" - reserved for situations where the 'ordinary dumb reader' is not expected to understand what is being said and instead they should "trust the experts". I'm pretty sure this World Weather Attribution organisation has been mentioned before in other BBC articles I've quoted. Quote It's been carried out by a team of researchers from World Weather Attribution (WWA), a global group that publishes rapid analyses of climate-related weather events. They use climate models to simulate how the warming that has occurred since the middle of the 19th century is influencing heatwaves, droughts, floods and fires. The widespread burning of coal, oil and gas in the wake of the industrial revolution has driven billions of tonnes of planet-warming gases into the atmosphere. Acting like a blanket, these gases have driven up temperatures by around 1.2C since then. By using climate models and statistical methods along with real world observations, the WWA group have been able to show how much of an influence climate warming has had on extreme events. Aren't they biased though? How accurate are their 'climate models'? It's a classic case to me of where researchers have already reached a conclusion and/or determination and are merely engineering evidence to support their conclusion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_j_evans Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said: Of course it did! Climate change made LA fires worse, scientists say from: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd9qy4knd8wo Oh there you go, use of that buzzword "complex" - reserved for situations where the 'ordinary dumb reader' is not expected to understand what is being said and instead they should "trust the experts". I'm pretty sure this World Weather Attribution organisation has been mentioned before in other BBC articles I've quoted. Aren't they biased though? How accurate are their 'climate models'? It's a classic case to me of where researchers have already reached a conclusion and/or determination and are merely engineering evidence to support their conclusion. Well, given that the mid 19th century was one of the coldest periods of the Little Ice Age, it would be pretty dire if things hadn't warmed up a bit since then. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 3 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said: The scientists highlight that these wildfires are highly complex with multiple factors playing a role, Sounds good, I for one would like to know what those complex factors are ,the relationships between those complex factors and the percentage each factor had with regards to the entire outcome of the situation instead of just highlighting climate change (very scientific). To me I would say that the useless woke mayor and governor were responsible for the highest percentage of these complex factors with regards to the water situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoScota Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 On 2/2/2025 at 9:43 PM, peter said: Sounds good, I for one would like to know what those complex factors are ,the relationships between those complex factors and the percentage each factor had with regards to the entire outcome of the situation instead of just highlighting climate change (very scientific). To me I would say that the useless woke mayor and governor were responsible for the highest percentage of these complex factors with regards to the water situation. Prob too "complex" for them to understand. Anything that goes against the narrative set, seems to cause malfunction in anyone brainwashed by climate change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted February 5 Author Share Posted February 5 On 2/2/2025 at 9:43 PM, peter said: Sounds good, I for one would like to know what those complex factors are ,the relationships between those complex factors and the percentage each factor had with regards to the entire outcome of the situation instead of just highlighting climate change (very scientific). To me I would say that the useless woke mayor and governor were responsible for the highest percentage of these complex factors with regards to the water situation. That's the thing, as soon as the word "complex" is thrown into the mix then that is their 'get-out-of-jail-free' card that they can play, which means they don't have to actually explain anything, "it's complex, just trust the experts to deal with it!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, Grumpy Owl said: "it's complex, just trust the experts to deal with it!" As I have said before an ex is a has been and a spurt is a drip under pressure 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted April 27 Author Share Posted April 27 Amazing! Which one will it be then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1velocity7 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 gotta give the british sheepies some warm weather before they dim the sun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted May 31 Author Share Posted May 31 It's the 1st of June tomorrow, so technically the start of the meteorological summer, but the click-bait journalists are already in force scouring over WXCharts, so expect more of the following for the next few months... UK heatwave to be 'even hotter than expected' with exact start date announced Quote The UK heatwave could be even HOTTER than expected as predictions now suggest England could roast in 29C. The heatwave has been upgraded from 28C on weather maps, to an even more sweltering 29C, as June arrives. A map from WXCharts for June 11 shows 29C heat - a day on from the same charts showing 28C would roast England. It means the UK is tantalisingly poised to set to new record for the hottest day of the year so far. from: https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/uk-heatwave-even-hotter-expected-31753498 Wow, a whole degree more! And who would have thought it, WXCharts showing different data for twelve days in the future when looking at it the following day! It's also important to remember that when the Reach Plc churnalists say 'UK heatwave', it only means 'small parts of the UK'. And any day that is warmer than previous days will be "the hottest day of the year". (Remember that January 1st was of course the 'hottest day of the year' ) Anyway, what do 'proper meteorologists' have to say... Quote A BBC Weather team forecast for Monday 9 June to Sunday 22 June suggests a " drier and warmer outlook", adding: "Some changes are expected deeper into June. "In this context, a general return to mostly drier and fairly warmer conditions seems still the more probable outcome. Scotland and Northern Ireland are likely to see wetter and windier weather at times, however. "These conditions could persist beyond mid-month, i.e. the high-pressure could linger in the vicinity of the UK, leading to largely dry and prevailing summery weather conditions. Scattered showers or thunderstorms are still possible. "With a low pressure system lingering somewhere between Iceland and Greenland, northern and north-western parts of the United Kingdom continue to be prone to wetter, windier and slightly cooler conditions as well." It adds: "Friday's update could bring clarity about the more likely outcome in the first week of June and give us a glimpse further ahead." In the short-term, a wet and windy weather should mostly prevail for the next couple of weeks. So basically, it's still unclear, but most parts of the UK won't be 'roasting' or 'sweltering' in the next few weeks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Alert Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 (edited) If we are really facing catastrophic climate change, global boiling, as they say, we should be rolling things back and going Amish or at least in that direction and not going for energy and resource hungry touch screen Teslas etc. to save the planet. Oh no, that would not be a good idea for the PTB as there would be no real time, electronic surveillance grid. Edited June 8 by Orange Alert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_j_evans Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 1 hour ago, Orange Alert said: If we are really facing catastrophic climate change, global boiling, as they say, we should be rolling things back and going Amish or at least in that direction and not going for energy and resource hungry touch screen Teslas etc. to save the planet. Oh no, that would not be a good idea for the PTB as there would be no real time, electronic surveillance grid. Yahbut, horses fart, so ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifth element Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 A hot snap this week which has been downgraded on the weather charts by 7 days.. 30c was common in early June 1982.. We don t seem to get long spells as in 1976 still the most intense hottest summer on record and hottest june.. I don t believe that june 2023 figures as it didn t seem that hot to me.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted June 19 Author Share Posted June 19 3 hours ago, Fifth element said: A hot snap this week which has been downgraded on the weather charts by 7 days.. 30c was common in early June 1982.. We don t seem to get long spells as in 1976 still the most intense hottest summer on record and hottest june.. I don t believe that june 2023 figures as it didn t seem that hot to me.. 30C+ in June is fairly common to me, happens most years, even if just for a couple of days. It's the media that keep sensationalising it and making people believe that it is somehow 'unprecedented' and 'not usual'. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Grumpy Owl Posted June 21 Author Share Posted June 21 On 6/19/2025 at 8:28 PM, Grumpy Owl said: It's the media that keep sensationalising it and making people believe that it is somehow 'unprecedented' and 'not usual'. Like this one of many numerous examples in the last couple of days: Current heatwave ‘likely to kill almost 600 people in England and Wales’ Quote Almost 600 people are expected to die early in the heatwave roasting England and Wales, a rapid analysis has found. The surge in deaths would not be occurring without human-caused global heating, the scientists said, with temperatures boosted by 2C-4C by the pollution from fossil fuels. Premature deaths will occur across the two countries but the highest mortality rates are expected in London and the West Midlands. Most of the deaths – 85% – will be people over 65 years old, who are more vulnerable to the extreme heat. People in inner-city homes are also at high risk. More than 10,000 people died before their time in summer heatwaves between 2020 and 2024, according to the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA). The government’s preparations to protect people from the escalating impacts of the climate crisis were condemned as “inadequate, piecemeal and disjointed” by official advisers in April. The 32C heat that will be endured by people in the south-east of England on Saturday will have been made 100 times more likely by the climate crisis, scientists said on Friday. from: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/jun/21/heatwave-expected-deaths-england-and-wales-analysis Then again, maybe not that many people will die after all. Don't forget, there were 'experts' that predicted that millions of people would die from Covid in the UK. And let us not forget that this 'heatwave' is nothing compared to some hot spells we've had in the last few years, in fact we've had hotter spells for decades. It's nothing new, its called 'summer', it does occasionally get very hot at times, but this is mainly due to the movement of the jetstream, and high/low pressure systems that draw up much more warmer air from the equatorial regions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Grumpy Grapes Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 3 minutes ago, 1velocity7 said: Piers Corbyn is predicting global cooling caused by the sun, and scoffs at sun dimming technology. If he's correct, they'll be taking credit for the sun's work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1velocity7 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 1 hour ago, Grumpy Grapes said: Piers Corbyn is predicting global cooling caused by the sun, and scoffs at sun dimming technology. If he's correct, they'll be taking credit for the sun's work. spraying the sky keeps the heat in so it gets hotter oh wait thats what they want 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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