The Most Successful PSY-OP of All Time: Christianity

[FVCK BILLY G4TES]

I can already hear the boos before even posting this lmao so let me just say this.

 

You can believe what you want, that's your business not mine. I am just throwing my hat into the ring and saying that we have all been conned, scammed and lied to for centuries now, is it so hard to believe that Christianity is just another jewish-born deception to lead us down the rabbit hole?

 

Before I get mentally handicapped people shrieking at me for bursting the comfort of their matrix bubble, take some time, think it over, hear other opinions to your own:

 

 

By the way if any shillary clintons decide to invade this post with nonsense and not genuine discussion then I will call you out on your bs. 

 

The world is fucked and I really don't care about your feelings.

[Michi713]

To each his own @FVCK BILLY G4TES.  You have posted some solid stuff before, and I respect your opinions.  If there’s anything you want to discuss about this thread I’m willing.  I don’t care about feelings either, just that prejudices and prejudgements be set aside and that we are willing to learn from each other.  

[FVCK BILLY G4TES]

24 minutes ago, Michi713 said:

To each his own @FVCK BILLY G4TES.  You have posted some solid stuff before, and I respect your opinions.  If there’s anything you want to discuss about this thread I’m willing.  I don’t care about feelings either, just that prejudices and prejudgements be set aside and that we are willing to learn from each other.  

Yeah I know, this isn't directed at sensible, non shilling, genuine people. I'm open to the discussion but my opinion is firm on this based on the evidence presented.

 

I'm a natural skeptic really, if you understand the judaism/kabbalah agenda along with the dialectics that people like the Rothschilds have formed over the years, you understand what controlled opposition looks like.

 

I just ask people, is it so hard to see Christianity as the perfect controlled opposition? Christians worship Yahweh (the god of the jews) with a jewish messiah (jesus) who in the book of Matthew had a Canaanite mother go to him and ask him to cure her son. Jesus famously called the woman a "dog" because she was not jewish and refused.

 

Then by "testing her faith" (or manipulating her) she finally managed to get jesus to cure her, or some bollocks...

 

Point is that it's the greatest deception ever pulled on the non jewish world to remove the pagans who notoriously hated judaism and jews and called the whole movement anti-human (which it is). 

 

Christians worship the jewish god

Christians worship a jewish messiah

Christianity shares scripture with

judaism

Edited May 30, 2021 by FVCK BILLY G4TES

[Truthspoon]

Oh shit not this again.

 

 

[Truthspoon]

Adam Green has lost his way. He's not a historian, and I would like to be charitable and consider him intelligent but the calibre of guests he has had on recently is very low and their scholarship very poor. I'm a writer too, I try not to make a big deal about it but I always give my sources. 

 

I'm not saying it matters but why not read the Amazon reviews for Jeffrey Daugherty's book. There are some compelling criticisms of his work which are hard to dismiss.

 

I used to be a fan of Adam Green, but since he decided to sleep with the enemy by bedding in with Christ hating Jew Christopher Jon Bjerknes (no honestly he HATES JESUS, how surprising) and rolling up with his Kabballah book when I'd written mine three years before him, and I've got an even bigger book coming too, which deals with UFO's, Rosicrucians, demonic possession and the REAL secret of Alchemy.... (watch the bitch copy me again).

 

Ok, I'm getting a bit excited. It's the champagne. But yeah, believe what you like, it's your problem.

 

Filtering process perhaps........ just be aware of that......and listen to the voice of truth inside yourself.....maybe what you want to believe isn't the truth because it will force you to readjust your whole life.....but follow that small voice of truth wherever it leads you, assuming you can hear it. It's worth it, it leads to infinity, eternity......all sorts of nice things.

 

 

Edited May 30, 2021 by Truthspoon

[Mr H]

yeah I'm not entirely sure about this one. I mean a lot of people seem to think that christianity is currently being destroyed by the global elites ( i guess that means for most jewish folks). So we're kinda saying that these guys did a hoax in the first place n setting it up and now doing a secondary hoax in demolishing it?

[Truthspoon]

23 minutes ago, Mr H said:

yeah I'm not entirely sure about this one. I mean a lot of people seem to think that christianity is currently being destroyed by the global elites ( i guess that means for most jewish folks). So we're kinda saying that these guys did a hoax in the first place n setting it up and now doing a secondary hoax in demolishing it?

 

 Consider the Jewish folks have been murdering Christians for two thousand years it doesn't make sense that it was something they created in the first place. You only need to learn a little about the classical period to know that not only did the Jews kill Christ but they hunted out the apostles all throughout the Mediterranean and killed them and their followers.

 

There are plenty of stories of Jews murdering Christians before Christianity became the religion of Rome. Funny no-one goes out of their way to talk about Jewish murders of Christians.....do you think there might be an agenda? 

 

 

[FVCK BILLY G4TES]

It's the most blatant case of controlled opposition in history, just because jews have murdered christians and covered it up doesn't mean that christianity wasn't invented by jews, it was.

 

People are easily manipulated and christianity is just another form of subserviance. 

 

Jews have the exact same god as christians who bashes babies heads off rocks and kills and burns anyone who doesn't worship him/it. 

 

This same god needed a blood magic ritual (crucifixion) to forgive the world, why not just forgive? Why the need to nail your supposed son to a piece of wood?

 

But if you saw an organised religion other than christianity do these things you have no problem calling them demonic and satanic. When christians do it then it's holy?

 

I can go on honestly...

 

I don't know why when I try to have a proper discussion about something serious I get people talking about demons and aliens.

 

Poison the punch bowl why don't you...

 

Edited May 30, 2021 by FVCK BILLY G4TES

[bamboozooka]

well they were all shagging like bunnies at 800 years old. what a sight.

[Michi713]

Zheng Wei says everything is f&#&d and it’s Confucius’ fault.  If it wasn’t for Confucianism the Cultural Revolution would never have happened, Xi Jinping wouldn’t be dictator, and Chinese people wouldn’t be self replicating zombies.  Forget the fact the CCP has whitewashed, distorted and perverted the teachings of Confucius for reasons of political control.  It’s Confucianism’s fault that Confucianism is used as a political tool.  Nothing wrong with mankind we’re ok!

 

Because you are repulsed by the Christian religion and you’re not interested in understanding it, you think there is nothing there to understand.  

 

To many people from all walks of life the Bible is a gift.  Smart people, dumb people; one of my Bible teachers is a microchip engineer.  

 

It is a personal, spiritual path, if approached with an open mind, by those who need it.  You may not need that, FVCKBILLYG4TES.  You may be just fine.  But many do need it’s wisdom.  

 

Maybe the YouTube video will help others who already agree with you agree more, and all can feel right in their disgust with Jesus and the Bible.  

 

Keanu Reeves has revealed to us the matrix then what?  We become magical wizards and just be awesome?  

 

Does it help anyone anywhere ponder their own motivations, actions, heart?  Because that’s what needs to change, not the bad guys, not the world.  

 

Note:

For anyone reading who likes straight talk read and contemplate all of Ecclesiastes, not just the appealing parts.  Read all of Proverbs:  no layers, no rabbit holes, both very straightforward.  

Edited May 31, 2021 by Michi713

[matreshka]

11 hours ago, FVCK BILLY G4TES said:

I can already hear the boos before even posting this lmao so let me just say this.

 

You can believe what you want, that's your business not mine. I am just throwing my hat into the ring and saying that we have all been conned, scammed and lied to for centuries now, is it so hard to believe that Christianity is just another jewish-born deception to lead us down the rabbit hole?

 

Before I get mentally handicapped people shrieking at me for bursting the comfort of their matrix bubble, take some time, think it over, hear other opinions to your own:

 

 

By the way if any shillary clintons decide to invade this post with nonsense and not genuine discussion then I will call you out on your bs. 

 

The world is fucked and I really don't care about your feelings.

Thanks!

[Mr H]

13 hours ago, Truthspoon said:

 

 

 

There are plenty of stories of Jews murdering Christians before Christianity became the religion of Rome. Funny no-one goes out of their way to talk about Jewish murders of Christians.....do you think there might be an agenda? 

 

 

Sure Jews in general get an easy ride in media and hollywood - not that I pay attention to media or hollywood in this regard and in most other regards - probably because a lot of the media and hollywood is owned by jews. Same sort of thing slowly happening with the chinese as they buy up hollywood and the media - don't get many movies with the chinese as the bad guys. Still don't think that means they made up the story of christ!

 

I also think the word agenda is used a little bit inprecisely and flippantly at times on here. Because every human action has an agenda, if I go to the shops my agenda is to get some fricking food, doesn't mean it's bad or manipulative. Think we need to be clearer on what we mean when we say agendas and how it is relevant. 

[FVCK BILLY G4TES]

9 hours ago, Michi713 said:

Zheng Wei says everything is f&#&d and it’s Confucius’ fault.  If it wasn’t for Confucianism the Cultural Revolution would never have happened, Xi Jinping wouldn’t be dictator, and Chinese people wouldn’t be self replicating zombies.  Forget the fact the CCP has whitewashed, distorted and perverted the teachings of Confucius for reasons of political control.  It’s Confucianism’s fault that Confucianism is used as a political tool.  Nothing wrong with mankind we’re ok!

 

Because you are repulsed by the Christian religion and you’re not interested in understanding it, you think there is nothing there to understand.  

 

To many people from all walks of life the Bible is a gift.  Smart people, dumb people; one of my Bible teachers is a microchip engineer.  

 

It is a personal, spiritual path, if approached with an open mind, by those who need it.  You may not need that, FVCKBILLYG4TES.  You may be just fine.  But many do need it’s wisdom.

Nobody NEEDS the bible that's the point i'm trying to make.

 

You also completely gloss over the main points I made.

 

Christianity has the same god as judaism who is completely immoral  and a psychopathic lunatic.

 

Christianity has a jewish messiah who will "return" dripping in the blood of the people he will slaughter.

 

Christianity was invented by the jews and the pharisees who, in the exact same text, warns of the teachings of the pharisees lmao...

 

As I said before people should make their own decisions but I smell controlled opposition. 

 

It fits way too perfectly, it is the complete antithesis to judaism and is the perfect way to control the west without ever invading the beaches or firing a shot.

 

I don't hate the religious framework of christianity per say, I think a lot of the core teachings are good (love thy neighbour etc) but this idea that you have to bend your knee in subserviance to a god that hates anyone who isn't jewish is absurd.

 

'Bless thee and you will be blessed, curse thee and you will be cursed'

 

Just be free for fuck sake, it's blatant trauma based mind control to keep the goy at bay.

 

Don't do what yahweh says? Then you burn in a lake of fire forever.

 

Don't love the children of Israel? Then you will burn forever.

 

It's obvious with eyes to see

[FVCK BILLY G4TES]

14 minutes ago, FVCK BILLY G4TES said:

Nobody NEEDS the bible that's the point i'm trying to make.

 

You also completely gloss over the main points I made.

 

Christianity has the same god as judaism who is completely immoral  and a psychopathic lunatic.

 

Christianity has a jewish messiah who will "return" dripping in the blood of the people he will slaughter.

 

Christianity was invented by the jews and the pharisees who, in the exact same text, warns of the teachings of the pharisees lmao...

 

As I said before people should make their own decisions but I smell controlled opposition. 

 

It fits way too perfectly, it is the complete antithesis to judaism and is the perfect way to control the west without ever invading the beaches or firing a shot.

 

I don't hate the religious framework of christianity per say, I think a lot of the core teachings are good (love thy neighbour etc) but this idea that you have to bend your knee in subserviance to a god that hates anyone who isn't jewish is absurd.

 

'Bless thee and you will be blessed, curse thee and you will be cursed'

 

Just be free for fuck sake, it's blatant trauma based mind control to keep the goy at bay.

 

Don't do what yahweh says? Then you burn in a lake of fire forever.

 

Don't love the children of Israel? Then you will burn forever.

 

It's obvious with eyes to see

Jews basically built china up through the Sassoon family aka 'the Rothschilds of the east' and the opium wars which gave way to HSBC's creation.

 

Henry Kissinger also has built up the CCP from the get go and he famously said "there is a war going on between jews and non jews".

Edited May 31, 2021 by FVCK BILLY G4TES

[Mazey]

Hi just came across the forum section on the website and I don't want to but in where I am not required. So I am going to make a few points and if there is any interest in me backing up any of this with more info then let me know:

• There are only 25 words in the Bible directly attributable to Jesus.
• All religions are intertwined & Jesus is intertwined with Buddhism & Hinduism (some of the Hindu texts were written by Jesus) as well as Judaism (which he didn't like very much as it is & was a closed religion)
• Jesus message has been distorted - he was amongst other things trying to tell people they were all the son/daughter of god & warned about following religion.
• Occasionally God or consciousness pops up on earth in Human form: previous but by no means an exclusive list of what some might refer to as  Avatars: Krishna, Buddha, Jesus - different physical person but same consciousness & same message ie your divinity itself.
• Last avatar in my view was Gururaj Ananda Yogi who died in 1988. This makes him interesting as he would be the only one we have a record of what he actually said as all his talks were recorded. I have over 1000 of these where he covers all subjects.
• I can post some on here if there is an interest - he talks quite a bit about Jesus & gives a good explanation of why Avatars come.

I have attached a picture of the spiritual emblem Gururaj created. It depicts the interlinking of all the major religions & faiths. The flame inside represents the illuminated inner consciousness inside everyone. He also gave some pretty stark warnings about the time we are now in and indicated the only way through it was humans realising who they are (consciousness)

 

Cheers - hope this helps

[whatastrangegame]

Hi Mazey, I can only speak for myself but I would be really interested in getting some more information about Gururaj. I found a YouTube channel, but there are a lot of videos so it's hard to know where to start.

Cheers

Edited July 24, 2021 by whatastrangegame
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[theo102]

On 5/31/2021 at 5:33 AM, FVCK BILLY G4TES said:

Jesus famously called the woman a "dog" because she was not jewish and refused.

No, because she was a Canaanite. Look up the curse of Canaan.

Edited August 6, 2021 by theo102

[theo102]

On 6/1/2021 at 2:04 AM, FVCK BILLY G4TES said:

I don't hate the religious framework of christianity per say, I think a lot of the core teachings are good (love thy neighbour etc) but this idea that you have to bend your knee in subserviance to a god that hates anyone who isn't jewish is absurd.

Your idea about hate doesn't describe anything real.

[Mazey]

On 7/24/2021 at 9:57 PM, whatastrangegame said:

Hi Mazey, I can only speak for myself but I would be really interested in getting some more information about Gururaj. I found a YouTube channel, but there are a lot of videos so it's hard to know where to start.

Cheers

Hi no problem. I think some of the videos on you tube have been edited & the original audios are better. If there are any subjects you are particularly interested in let me know & i will find the most relevant audio file

[Hegel Schmegel]

As one who generally isn't dogmatic in his holding of conspiracy theories -- that is, at least as far as the identification of temporal capstone conspirators is concerned -- and as one always open to considering persuasive theoretical evidence, should it partially conflict with or even be in total contradiction to a previously or presently entertained outlook, I must confess that the hypothesis put forth by those who claim Christianity to be a psyop from its very inception, instigated by self-perceived elitists within the occult or pseudo strains of Judaism, has in recent days been sounding to me increasingly convincing the more I examine and contemplate the possibility with an open yet critical mind.

 

Which leads me wonder, whether anyone else here is familiar with the apparently significant output of Charles Giuliani? I have only just chanced upon it after serendipitously stumbling upon a rather lengthy online interview of his -- in hindsight, this auditory experience, a potential eureka if not an epiphanic moment for me -- one so exceptionally coherent in its polemic, that is has sent me in search of wanting to find out more and to see how much of it stands up to critical examination.

 

One thing I can state at the outset and with absolute certainty is that this supposedly controversial theory sounds a lot more reasonable and logical a one than some court jester's claim that it was a 1st-century Roman (Flavian dynasty) conspiracy to invent Christianity so as to keep the surrounding non-Roman subjects and the potential insurrectionists in their midst subdued and compliant. What a howler if ever there was one. Perhaps the most vocal spokesman for this fantastically insubstantial and supremely fatuous belief has been Joseph Atwill, author of the academically marginalized Caesar's Messiah, whose (anti)argument I've always considered to be transparently spurious to its core, and which has now made me question the primary motive in his promoting of it, however of relevance the man's lineage.

 

On the contrary, so it seems; the other way around, Joey -- via none other than what has been termed 'theological warfare.' Militarily, so this counter-Caesar theory goes, the takeover of Rome wasn't possible, but it was through the infiltration of religious doctrine, and so two more Abrahamic -- and (mind-)controlling -- faiths were born; that each of these originated with the Pentateuch, with certain men creating Yahweh (a deity that has always read to me like the Demiurge) in their power-mad image.

 

What Mr. Guiliani, a former practicing Christian, has to say with regard to the Old Testament deity is spot-on, and I like what he says with regard to all this constant online bashing of modern-day political Zionism being in large part a red herring, one that in a sense fails to go deeper and ultimately ends up missing the forest for the trees, so to speak.

 

Indeed, how many hundreds of millions, what percentage of humankind, adhere to one of the monotheistic faiths? I would have to agree that if there is a conspiracy of this magnitude going on, one with the covert aim of world domination, that for the past two millennia it has largely been and is being accomplished by way of organized religious means primarily, with Muslims, devout Jews, and especially Christians none the wiser.

 

As to how all this fits in to my worldview -- as one convinced of the existence of spiritually dark entities, akin to the biblical demons -- I'm not entirely certain, nor am I completely willing to reject what sincere Christian preachers have to say with regard to such interdimensional beings and how they factor into canonical eschatology. If this is somewhat paradoxical of me, so be it.

[pi3141]

21 hours ago, Hegel Schmegel said:

As one who generally isn't dogmatic in his holding of conspiracy theories -- that is, at least as far as the identification of temporal capstone conspirators is concerned -- and as one always open to considering persuasive theoretical evidence, should it partially conflict with or even be in total contradiction to a previously or presently entertained outlook, I must confess that the hypothesis put forth by those who claim Christianity to be a psyop from its very inception, instigated by self-perceived elitists within the occult or pseudo strains of Judaism, has in recent days been sounding to me increasingly convincing the more I examine and contemplate the possibility with an open yet critical mind.

 

 

Interesting, I enjoyed the read.

 

Throwing my 2 cents back at you - I am one who is now advocating that Christianity is a Psyop, a spiritual scam pulled on the Western world by....who knows.

 

However my view is that either Christianity was created and forced upon the world or that it was originally good but got corrupted along the way by...who knows.

 

I call them Dark Magicians, they are certainly spiritually advanced people that know magic and how the human mind works (which is kind of the same thing) to be able to create and control this religion the way it has been.

 

There is a golden thread of truth in all religions.

 

However, I now see the Christians as the very pagan devils they are supposedly against. I often read Christians pontificating that we are in 'end times' because humans have become so corrupted. Well their Bible says 'Judge not' yet they feel emboldened to judge the entire human race! I see many contradictions or rather inversions in Christianity that, in their terms, is Satanic. The inversion of good to denigrate and mock. (Keep the Sabbath (Saturday), Call no-one Father, don’t light fires on Sabbath)

 

Their focal image is one of death – a dying man on a cross - and that image is fake – they did not crucify people in that way, it was on a stake or a cross in the form of an X.

 

The school system instigated by the churches teaches children to be individualistic and in competition with each other, which once ingrained, is carried through into the adult world, and we have a society of adults competing with each other rather than cooperating and helping each other as Jesus taught. This has been instilled in people through the actions of the Christian church.

 

Christians fear God, so they fear life, some of them are to scared to live and experience life, the misogynistic teachings of the church 'The Inferior Origin of Women' written and taught by the church fathers has put a wedge between men and women for centuries and its morphed into the appalling treatment of women we see in the Muslim world - they take their authority for that from the Koran and the Bible.

 

When we stand back and look at the society thats been created under the influence of Christianity its appalling - by their fruits ye shall know them.

 

Look at the fruits around us, we're all on this Forum because we see a problem with society, its the Church, the Royal families, the Parliaments and MP's that have created this - not some 'unknown entity' or 'higher power' WE'VE done it under the guidance of Royalty, Church and our 'Democracy' I put that in quotes because if you read up on 'Rotten Boroughs' and look at the way our electoral votes are laid and who used to be the only class who became MP's out you'll see that its not really been a true democracy for a very long time.

 

For me, once your eyes are open to this 'Pagan Spell' its hard to see anything else.

 

According to some of the earliest Christian writers - like Eusebius, the Christians were in possession of an 'ancient knowledge' it seems that ancient knowledge came from Egypt through the Theraputae, but its origins where in - or Pre - Sumeria, and was carried through to Egypt and the Jews and then Christians by the Canaanites and Phoenicians.

 

Yahweh was a Canaanite God long before he became the God of the Bible, or should I say, one of the Gods of the Bible. Adonai, Elohim, Jehovah, Yahweh.

 

Canaanites were the original child sacrificing, fire worshipping pagans, their God IS the God of the Bible.  Its says in the Bible God is a Jealous God, a Vengeful God, he commands peoples to be wholesale slaughtered, children and all. Does this sound like a ‘Perfect Being’ a loving creator God?

 

He sends us down here with no clear guidance and if we put a step wrong we end up tortured and tormented for ever?

 

What sort of God does that to its children?

 

The Tetragrammaton 'YHWH' has been found on an Egyptian temple.

 

The scholars have re-translated the original scriptures and now we know there is no Hell in the Bible and Hell was invented by the Christian/Catholic Church - this causes fear in people - the church are responsible for putting fear of living and fear of God in peoples hearts!

 

We know people are controlled by fear, well who's put the greatest fear into peoples minds over the last 2000 years?

 

Witch hunts, Inquisitions, wars, doctrine of eternal torment, fear of God and instilling an individualistic and competitive nature in people to keep us divided, while they embezzle, child molest and live lives of luxury.

 

How much more obvious can it be.

 

BY THEIR FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW THEM

 

 

On this topic I recommend- 

 

Diegesis - Origins of Christianity by Rev R Taylor

 

Two Babylons by Rev A Hislop

 

The Masters Carpet - Masonry and Baal worship identical; by Edmond Ronayne, past master of Keystone Lodge, Chicago

 

Edited June 26 by pi3141

[Jason57]

Take Jesus/Yeshua out of Christianity and you'll find Christ much easier to emulate and trust. Christianity turned Yeshua into a religion, and Yeshua was most critial of religious people of his time.

 

The God of the OT would only love and bless those who worshipped and obeyed the law. Same can be said for the God of Islam.

 

Any Deity or religious book that commands slaughtering non believers or sinners should not be worshipped imo.

Edited June 26 by Jason57

[pi3141]

On 6/25/2023 at 5:08 PM, Hegel Schmegel said:

As one who generally isn't dogmatic in his holding of conspiracy theories -- that is, at least as far as the identification of temporal capstone conspirators is concerned -- and as one always open to considering persuasive theoretical evidence, should it partially conflict with or even be in total contradiction to a previously or presently entertained outlook, I must confess that the hypothesis put forth by those who claim Christianity to be a psyop from its very inception, instigated by self-perceived elitists within the occult or pseudo strains of Judaism, has in recent days been sounding to me increasingly convincing the more I examine and contemplate the possibility with an open yet critical mind.

 

 

Ive just posted this info on another thread but its also relevant here and something to consider.

 

Hell in Christianity

 

Different Hebrew and Greek words are translated as "Hell" in most English-language Bibles. These words include:

 

"Sheol" in the Hebrew Bible, and "Hades" in the New Testament. Many modern versions, such as the New International Version, translate Sheol as "grave" and simply transliterate "Hades". It is generally agreed that both sheol and hades do not typically refer to the place of eternal punishment, but to the grave, the temporary abode of the dead, the underworld.[3]

 

"Gehenna" in the New Testament, where it is described as a place where both soul and body could be destroyed (Matthew 10:28) in "unquenchable fire" (Mark 9:43). The word is translated as either "Hell" or "Hell fire" in many English versions.[4] Gehenna was a physical location outside the city walls where they burned rubbish and where lepers and outcasts were sent, hence the weeping and gnashing of teeth.

 

The Greek verb ταρταρῶ (tartarō, derived from Tartarus), which occurs once in the New Testament (in 2 Peter 2:4), is almost always translated by a phrase such as "thrown down to hell". A few translations render it as "Tartarus"; of this term, the Holman Christian Standard Bible states: "Tartarus is a Greek name for a subterranean place of divine punishment lower than Hades."[5]

 

Link - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell_in_Christianity

 

These beliefs and names come mainly from the Greek PAGAN system - ancient Greek mythology - PAGAN mythology - can anyone dispute this?. 

 

Yet in the Christian Bible we find - in the original texts - the terms 'Hades' and 'Tartarus' which have been replaced by the Latin Priests with 'Hell' or they use the term Hades in some cases, because presumably it means the same sort of thing and thats what the original writers wrote so they kept it.

 

So you see - this belief in 'Hell' is a Pagan belief, it stems from Pagan religious systems and has been carried over into Christianity and Judaism and ultimately Islam.

 

It says above, the Holman Bible states its a Greek name - which is taken from ancient Greek mythology which is Paganism - No?

 

Hades and Tartarus are Pagan mythology - what is Pagan mythology doing in a Christian Bible?

 

The belief in an eternal, subterranean, bottomless pit of eternal fire and torment of dead souls comes from the Pagan world.  Its not a uniquely Christian belief. My guess is the Latin Priests changed the words from Hades, Tartarus, Sheol and Ghenna to hide their origin and original meaning to contort their religion and its adherents into this, apparently new and unique, belief system. When in fact it is not new or unique.

 

So 'Yahweh' is a Pagan God and the belief in Hell and eternal torment is a Pagan belief. 

 

There's tons more proof.

 

 

 

Edited June 26 by pi3141

[pi3141]

Yahweh, Asherah, Baal, all Canaanite Pagan gods, Hades, Tartarus, Bottomless Pit, eternal torment of the dammed, fiery realm - all Pagan mythology.

 

Worshipping the image of a dying man, drinking his blood, eating his flesh. Pagan.

 

The Biblical flood story was taken directly from the Epic of Gilgamesh. Pagan, pre Christian belief.

 

Graven images, multiple deities in the form of saints and Mary mother of Christ etc that can be prayed to for intercession - including the Pope, Gods representative on earth. How many gods does this monotheistic religion need?

 

Is Satan not a God? He can challenge Gods power and has rulership over his own private realm of Hell, can tempt and trap souls against Gods will, so doesn't that make him a God in the Christian eyes? He's certainly powerful. 

 

Then we have the trinity, the one God thats 3.

 

So thats 3 Gods plus an all powerful Satan figure, possibly an Anti-Christ in Lucifer and about 10,000 saints plus Mary the mother of Christ/God incarnate - depending on belief - and the Pope you can pray to.

 

10,007 deities in the monotheistic Christianity.

 

Pagan bullshit.

 

 

Edited June 26 by pi3141

[Campion]

11 hours ago, pi3141 said:

These beliefs and names come mainly from the Greek PAGAN system - ancient Greek mythology - PAGAN mythology - can anyone dispute this?.

 

I don't dispute it, but imo the whole distinction between "pagan" and monotheistic religion is a later idea that's projected onto history anyway. "Pagan" in the ancient world meant "rustic", the religion of the country people, the supposedly uncivilised rednecks and bumpkins. From the pov of the metropolitan urbanites looking down their noses at them. Therefore, the educated and priestly class of the polytheists weren't pagans. The Gospels were written in Greek (not Hebrew or Aramaic), the language of the culture which had supplied the art, mathematics, philosophy and religion to the Roman empire. It seems that the ancient world was a lot more porous between countries with people travelling and knowing about each others cultures more than we realise. Gods and Goddesses morphed and changed names as they moved around the region. The monotheists like to claim their religion was protected from outside influences and remains some kind of pure unadulterated revelation straight from the one true God, but all three Abrahamic religions sit on polytheistic foundations.