Shame on you....

[Mark.colley]

Why do people shout 'shame on you' at the state foot soldiers aka police, they feel no shame, why shout at them 'choose your side'. They chose there side when they joined. Taken the 30 pieces of silver every paycheck.

For a long time the bobby on the beat has long gone, they don't join the police to bring home the stray dog help kittens out of trees, see old people and children across the street, help the public with problems, ask a member of the police now for directions , they would tell you to go and buy a A to Z and arrest you for wasting police time.

The people who join the police were the kids at school who would tell a teacher if you swore, the kids who would bully someone for not wearing the latest trainers. They were the ones who had no emphathy. The ones who would shoot squirrels with pellet guns and laugh. 

Being a teenager at Hillsborough I witness how there brains are controlled, they stood and watched people die and waited to be told to open the gates. Someone with empathy would have just acted and not waited for orders from up high. 

The police remind me of the Vogons in Hitch hikers guide to the Galaxy. 

The idea of the police 'to serve the people is a good thing, so I'm not anti police.

But do they serve or in slave the people.

[Oxide]

I can't help feel that that is perhaps a slightly unfair generalisation.

I'd safely bet that most of them don't really know or understand what the force is being used for. After all, a vast majority of people on any side of warring factions wouldn't see themselves as "the bad guys" or would think that they're doing the bidding of sinister people.

The traditional bobby on the beat might still happen in rural areas, but I'd put the ignorance of today's police officers down to being more of a generational thing.

 

The new new generations have been indoctrinated and raised to be more self-centred and now to become more reliant on authority.

Admittedly, I've asked a police officer for directions once and they couldn't tell me due to not being from the area. I wasn't threatened with arrest. But that's not to say it doesn't happen.

The teacher's pets that you describe that I knew of in school have either become artists, nurses and one, if I remember correctly, became a driving instructor.

The "bullies" I know of are, generally, unemployed, working as labourers or something in farming. I don't personally know of anyone who bullied others in school to have made something worthwhile of themselves.

Most cops I know don't fit the description you gave. I personally know 2 cops who would be described as crooked. One was running a scam where he'd take the wheels of a police car and replace them with cheaper tyres, whilst selling on the original ones. He was found out and left the police before he was fired.

Another was done for having been caught dealing in drugs and accepting "protection money" from other dealers.

By the way, I'm not having a go at you. Your opinion may have been formed from going through different experiences. I just think it's an unfair generalisation, is all.

[Mark.colley]

I agree it is a generalisation, but I also have a problem with the people who put themselves forward as Marshalls at events. The mind set of I must control and tell people what to do. That's the mind set I have s problem with. Don't shout freedom then tell me what to do, if someone wants the jab, let them, just let me live my life without harming any living thing. 

[Ethel]

They don't serve the people. At best they are completely lost, and the thought processes which lead a person to join the police are either completely delusional or highly vindictive. 

 

I am not in favor of the existence of their job. I find it interesting that the arguments people use against an Anarchist society are actually highly applicable to this society.

 

So, for example, someone might say something like "People are not highly evolved enough to live in a society which has no leaders and no law enforcement", and then I would respond to that by saying something like:

 

"If that's the case, then people also aren't highly evolved enough to be trusted with the task of choosing the right leaders, far less being a leader, and certainly not serving in the police force".

 

Essentially, when people try and 'argue' against an Anarchist society, they defeat their own arguments.

 

There is no way in hell that the people who join the police are 'conscious' enough to be in such a job. Not only are they not conscious enough to be in such a job, I would estimate their level of awareness, intellect, empathy, emotional intelligence and spiritual intelligence to be vastly below that of even the average person.

 

Ergo, they are in absolutely no position to tell anyone what to do, and regularly break the very 'law' they have sworn an oath to uphold by kidnapping people, assaulting people, and occasionally killing people. All of which is a violation of natural law, as is the entire premise of their job. They are not 'above' anyone, period. Nobody will even win that argument. Man's law is bunk. Natural law is the only law worth a damn.

[Oxide]

3 minutes ago, Mark.colley said:

I agree it is a generalisation, but I also have a problem with the people who put themselves forward as Marshalls at events. The mind set of I must control and tell people what to do. That's the mind set I have s problem with. Don't shout freedom then tell me what to do, if someone wants the jab, let them, just let me live my life without harming any living thing. 

I sort of agree there. I think those who volunteer to be marshals are the ones who like to have a sense of self-importance in the community to sooth their egos. They're probably the ones who complain to Ofcom because they've read on social media that whatever they aired or published offended someone - even though they themselves didn't see it at the time lol.

I know of probably 5 (give or take) people who volunteer for things like that. And if I'm remembering correctly, they were all either bullied or excluded from cliques in school. In fact I could probably bet a month's wages on that lol.

 

Totally agree that they should live and let live. It's just unfortunate that some people just can't get around that idea and can't help but interfere with someone else's lives. It's a sad existence to live, really.

 

[andy1033]

Staggering the amount of garbage you went to school with, pure filth, ended up doing jobs, that are things like social workers, or police, lol

 

No wonder these jobs are seen as problems, by many.

 

The people that got these jobs, were real filth while at school, and i doubt they changed in real life.

 

I remember the last time i saw someone, i went to school with. He said he became a social worker.

 

This same, night, these same people were effectively organising someone to rape me, and these people are social workers. Pure garbage. I went to school with pure disgusting people. I remember that night, and it was no surprise, such a fool became a social worker.

 

Imagine being a person involved with such a job, while at same time, organising to ruin my life, and organising that night to try and get someone to rape me.

 

Disgusting vile scum.

 

They get these jobs, and use them to settle problems they had with people.

 

Going to school with trash, and these same trash will use positions they have later to ruin your life.

 

Just imagine, what sort of scumbag social worker, this fool would of became, after seeing what they tried that night to me.

 

So much scum you goto school with become your judge and executioner in effect.

 

While these people are in jobs, for social betterment, they use them to ruin lifes of people they hate for no reason.

 

I went to school with pure scum, and you can see what i wrote above, and what sort of vile people get such jobs as social workers, and i assume jobs in police, or family members, in police or council positions.

 

Disgusting how it works.

[Mark.colley]

I did not go on the march as I don't like the idea of self appointed big deal Marshalls, but it did amuse me reading the comments from people saying 'you don't have the right to say anything as you didn't go'  I just read an observed the comment from a difference and thought what a fascist thing to say. 

[Mark.colley]

18 minutes ago, andy1033 said:

Staggering the amount of garbage you went to school with, pure filth, ended up doing jobs, that are things like social workers, or police, lol

 

No wonder these jobs are seen as problems, by many.

 

The people that got these jobs, were real filth while at school, and i doubt they changed in real life.

 

I remember the last time i saw someone, i went to school with. He said he became a social worker.

 

This same, night, these same people were effectively organising someone to rape me, and these people are social workers. Pure garbage. I went to school with pure disgusting people. I remember that night, and it was no surprise, such a fool became a social worker.

 

Imagine being a person involved with such a job, while at same time, organising to ruin my life, and organising that night to try and get someone to rape me.

 

Disgusting vile scum.

 

They get these jobs, and use them to settle problems they had with people.

 

Going to school with trash, and these same trash will use positions they have later to ruin your life.

 

Just imagine, what sort of scumbag social worker, this fool would of became, after seeing what they tried that night to me.

 

So much scum you goto school with become your judge and executioner in effect.

 

While these people are in jobs, for social betterment, they use them to ruin lifes of people they hate for no reason.

 

I went to school with pure scum, and you can see what i wrote above, and what sort of vile people get such jobs as social workers, and i assume jobs in police, or family members, in police or council positions.

 

Disgusting how it works.

I have met some social workers who do the job because they like to help people, but they don't go far up the greasy pole, I've known nurses who go into nursing because they want to help people, but many leave when they realize paperwork is king, the same with teachers. But the people who join the police know it's about control. 

[Mr H]

Yeah I don't get the shame on you thing either....... especially as they hear it so much, expect they are immune to it now......

 

Think the best things public can do against the police is to arrest the police if they see them act unlawfully against citizens and not shout shame on you or film.....or at least try too.

 

I also think silent protest could be a good idea also if there are enough people could make a strong statement. Just sit there arm in arm as one in deadly silence.

[Mark.colley]

Ignoring the daily NHS jab text, shopping without a mask, hugging my family. All daily protests, the government hate this type of protest as at the moment they can't use there foot soldiers in yellow jackets to beat you with sticks.

 

[Mark.colley]

Or instead of silence just hold one continuous note

[peter]

13 hours ago, Mark.colley said:

Why do people shout 'shame on you' at the state foot soldiers aka police, they feel no shame, why shout at them 'choose your side'. They chose there side when they joined. Taken the 30 pieces of silver every paycheck.

For a long time the bobby on the beat has long gone, they don't join the police to bring home the stray dog help kittens out of trees, see old people and children across the street, help the public with problems, ask a member of the police now for directions , they would tell you to go and buy a A to Z and arrest you for wasting police time.

The people who join the police were the kids at school who would tell a teacher if you swore, the kids who would bully someone for not wearing the latest trainers. They were the ones who had no emphathy. The ones who would shoot squirrels with pellet guns and laugh. 

Being a teenager at Hillsborough I witness how there brains are controlled, they stood and watched people die and waited to be told to open the gates. Someone with empathy would have just acted and not waited for orders from up high. 

The police remind me of the Vogons in Hitch hikers guide to the Galaxy. 

The idea of the police 'to serve the people is a good thing, so I'm not anti police.

But do they serve or in slave the people.

When my kids were small ,I used to tell them not to trust the police ,they are not there to help you they are just government debt collectors  and street sweepers, meaning they are there to suck as much money from the public as possible and clean up after a crime has been committed, they are not there to prevent crime they are there to protect and serve (themselves and their masters). Even up to their mid teens my boys seemed to think I had a rather pessimistic view concerning the police until one day my youngest bloke came over ,I'm not sure how the topic came up but he said dad I think you were right about the cops all along.

Now I'm not talking about every cop ,of course there a good ones ,I'm talking about the organization as a whole and it's actual roll in society

 

Edited May 30, 2021 by peter