What are people dying of if there's no covid virus?

[John H25]

What's killing people if it's not the fake virus?

 

I mean, aside from the pumped up cases where people actually died of another illness and just happened to test positive for covid.

 

Hospitals evidently have a higher than usual number of respiratory patients dying, so there must be something making people sick to scare them into taking the jab.

 

I'm new here and if this topic has already been discussed, I'd appreciate it if someone could direct me to the thread.

 

Tks

[Mikheil]

7 hours ago, John H25 said:

What's killing people if it's not the fake virus?

 

I mean, aside from the pumped up cases where people actually died of another illness and just happened to test positive for covid.

 

Hospitals evidently have a higher than usual number of respiratory patients dying, so there must be something making people sick to scare them into taking the jab.

 

I'm new here and if this topic has already been discussed, I'd appreciate it if someone could direct me to the thread.

 

Tks

If you got sick with a bad dose of 'flu when I was a kid (1940's), you stayed home, stayed in bed, took blackcurrant tea (vitamin C), stayed warm and drank lots of fluids. It usually lasted a week sometimes 2 or 3 weeks and it took a while to recover. If your vitamin D was low, it could turn into pneumonia and THEN you might get sent to hospital to die.

 

In the summer we used to run round in the sun, with just a pair of shorts, so by winter we had tons of Vitamin D.

 

Back then, if a doctor(?) had sent you to hospital with 'flu, he would have probably been sacked.

 

I had SARS-COV-1 in Belize in 2003. I was REALLY ill, I could barely breathe, but I had a very good tan, so lots of vitamin D. I took Ivermectin (you could buy most anything in Belize without prescription). We made a concoction of grapefruit peel and orange peel (there's lots of both in Belize). boiled and strained and I stayed in bed, stayed warm, drank as much as I could and a Chinese acupuncture doctor needled me, After the acupuncture my breathing was almost normal the next day. I was weak, lost appetite, feeling like total shit for another couple of weeks, but I recovered. NO doctor(?) NO Hospital, just good old 1940's common sense.

 

People have been made afraid, so the slightest sign of 'flu, they rush to their doctor(?) and he gets PAID to send them to hospital. THAT my friend is why the hospitals are full. FEAR and mass brainwashing.

 

If I get 'flu this coming winter, I will do the same as I did in Belize FUCK THE DOCTORS(?) They are just fucking salesmen for big pharma. FOLLOW THE MONEY. I'm 80, If I die, I die. I don't sit around trying to escape death, I LIVE and when death is ready for me there is FUCK ALL I can do about it.

Ivermectin is BANNED, hydroxychloroquine is BANNED, sunlight causes skin cancer, (so say the doctors(?)) and the Vitamin D you buy in the store is so under-dosed, don't waste your money. 

 

Back to the past. We don't have a future if you believe the crap that they are feeding you.

[Foggy Dewhurst]

People have always died through flu and other respitory illnesses only now they have ceased to exist,rebranded as "Covid 19:the gift to tyranny that keeps on giving!"

 

Remember if you test positive up to 60 days,in a test that merely amplifies genetic material in your body,then you die of heart failure,cancer or are knocked down by a bus,it goes down as a Covid Death.

 

Obversely if you die within 15+ minutes of a covid shot,it has nothing at all to do with the vax.Nowt.Nada.Zilch.Nothing to see here.

 

If they do pull off a fake alien invasion,using special effects and phony tv news reports(before pulling the plug)then clearly most people would buy it and follow the army to 'safety' areaa for food and shelter.

 

Just imagine if the current psyop had been played that way.Footage of citizens in China dropping like ninepins and worldwide reports of the spread then...cut the power and we were left with no comms like this site and others, which have given us more true info and allowed many to shake off the doubts of whether it was real and investigate further.

 

 

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

8 hours ago, John H25 said:

Hospitals evidently have a higher than usual number of respiratory patients dying, so there must be something making people sick to scare them into taking the jab.

 

If.. 

If there are indeed higher than normal numbers it's not a virus. 

It's bacterial Pneumonia caused by excessive mask wearing.

Thousands of doctors talking about this but being censored. 

I know someone hospitalised with what they claimed was 'the virus'. 

After 2 days they were given antibiotics. 

You don't beat viruses with antibiotics. 

Only bacteria is beaten by antibiotics. 

BC 

[Tinfoil Hat]

Plus the vaccine is finishing some off. 

[SimonTV]

From March 2020 to Summer 2020 they completely lied on the death certificates. They were labelling old people that died of pre existing health conditions as having died of/with covid in some cases even without a fraudulent PCR test being performed. They were so excited about the pandemic that they were moving everyone to the covid floor and drugging them up and putting them on ventilators even when they went in with unrelated illnesses. In some cases people were escaping the hospital because they were being forced in to treatment plans for covid that would kill them.  If you look closely at the early 2020 statistics, most of the people that died from/with covid died in hospital and were not admitted for covid but were moved to the covid floor and put on a treatment plan that would take their life. 

 

Then in October they started with the "flu vaccines" even though they had (apparently) no flu the entire previous season. They continued with the same covid obsessed treatment plans and fraudulent PCR testing, all of which encouraged more of the same. Then in December they started their magic vaccine rollout and deaths went through the roof, especially in care homes where they murdered 1000s of old people with the injections and claimed they either picked up covid and died or the injections "weakened their immune system" and they died of a pre-existing condition. It is amazing that they were able to convince themselves of these lies but they did. 

Edited May 30, 2021 by SimonTV

[Grumpy Owl]

18 hours ago, John H25 said:

What's killing people if it's not the fake virus?

 

I mean, aside from the pumped up cases where people actually died of another illness and just happened to test positive for covid.

 

Hospitals evidently have a higher than usual number of respiratory patients dying, so there must be something making people sick to scare them into taking the jab.

 

I'm new here and if this topic has already been discussed, I'd appreciate it if someone could direct me to the thread.

 

Tks

 

People die all the time, its a sad fact of life.

 

In particular, people die from all manner of respiratory conditions, bronchitis, pneumonia etc

 

What was 'new' at the start of 2020 was the 'PCR test', or the 'Covid test' whatever you want to call it.

 

People can get tested 'positive' or 'negative', that becomes the determination of whether you 'have Covid' or not.

 

All pre-existing medical conditions related to respiratory dysfunction suddenly became 'Covid-19'.

 

If you develop bronchitis and die, you died from Covid-19. If you develop pneumonia and died, you died from Covid-19.

 

If you were accidentally knocked over by a bus and died from your injuries, BUT you had previously tested 'positive', then you died 'with' Covid-19.

 

If you died from cancer, heart failure, liver failure, brain aneurysm etc etc, BUT didn't test postive, then if your doctor 'believed' you died from Covid then you died from Covid.

 

Just look at the 'official statistics' and you will not see any significant increase in deaths, or 'excess mortality' as they call it.

 

Patients were being transferred into hospitals after being 'diagnosed' with Covid-19, and the standard procedure was to stick them on ventilators.

 

I think a lot of people died unneccessarily this way, as it was the actions of the ventilators that contributed to their death.

 

It was always remarkable how so many people who entered hospital for any number of treatments and operations, suddenly 'caught' Covid while they were there.

 

I remember commenting here last year that a hospital was the last place that anyone wanted to end up in.

 

 

[zArk]

18 hours ago, John H25 said:

What's killing people if it's not the fake virus?

I mean, aside from the pumped up cases where people actually died of another illness and just happened to test positive for covid.

Hospitals evidently have a higher than usual number of respiratory patients dying, so there must be something making people sick to scare them into taking the jab.

 

the yearly deaths look quite normal in actual fact, once you compare back years to the year 2000

Year	Number of deaths	Population (Thousands)	Crude mortality rate (per 100,000 population)	Age-standardised mortality rate (per 100,000 population)
2020	608,002	59,829	1,016.20	1,043.50
2019	530,841	59,440	893.1	925
2018	541,589	59,116	916.1	965.4
2017	533,253	58,745	907.7	965.3

.........................

2003	539,151	52,863	1,019.90	1,232.10
2002	535,356	52,602	1,017.70	1,231.30
2001	532,498	52,360	1,017.00	1,236.20
2000	537,877	52,140	1,031.60	1,266.40
1999	553,532	51,933	1,065.80	1,320.20
1998	553,435	51,720	1,070.10	1,327.20

[Ethel]

If someone is still asking that question by this point in time, I reckon they're still consuming mainstream media.

 

Karma is collective, not just individual.

 

Switch it off. 

 

NOW.

 

 

[CrowintheSnow]

I actually believe there is a Covid virus (yes, I know, many here will strongly disagree with me, but that's okay.) I am certain I had t. Something came for me Spring last year which was like a very very weird flu but a tad worse, did its stuff, then left

I also believe it's probably on average no more dangerous to a properly functioning immune system than a flu virus. Many deaths take place from flu plus complicatons each year. Most of those are sadly, people who have other big health problems or who are weak , elderly etc.

 

I'm getting on a bit in years, but my immune system did a grand job I think.  I have felt one or two health changes in the year since that infection, but can carry on through them and they are not too bad. Some of them might just be "getting old" symptoms anyway.

 

What I don't believe, are the lies, the hype, the fear mongering, the authoritarian control and bzarre changes of law that have taken place, the vaccines, the vaccine "passports", the ominous stuff surrounding it.  I sense that it was deliberately released, and the hype was meant to make us quake in our boots and do anything we were told to do. I am not afraid of any of it and won't play the game I'm afraid. But I watch what's going on.

[Mr H]

I honestly am still unsure whether there is no virus or not. But either way. I think they're saying 120,000 people died testing positive via a pcr test for covid.

 

In my mind likely scenarios are up to 40,000 of that number could be attributed to flu - I believe we had a good flu year the year before and was expecting a bad one that year - and flu doesn't seem to get recorded anymore. 

 

I would say a large amount of the remaining number are the deaths of old people. Thousands on critical treatments were kicked out of hospitals and put in care homes where they did not receive the required treatment and many of these died - and all recorded as covid.

 

The balance in my mind is made up of false positive tests - people dying of normal stuff but they put it down to covid.

Edited May 31, 2021 by Mr H

[lshapedroom]

I am still in the camp of believing that there was a bad Covid virus going around early 2020 and I always base this on the fact so many working doctors were dying, Remembering the UK doctors who have died of covid-19 | The BMJ.  Just wondering if those of you more certain that it's fake could explain those deaths?

[John H25]

20 hours ago, Ethel said:

If someone is still asking that question by this point in time, I reckon they're still consuming mainstream media.

 

Karma is collective, not just individual.

 

Switch it off. 

 

NOW.

 

 

Actually, I avoid mainstream, but my confusion is because my daughter is nurse and at the height of the pandemic she was forced to work with ICU patients dying of "whatever that is". That's what makes me wonder what "it" is because if the physical symtoms are killing, then it can't all be due to mass hysteria.  

[John H25]

Actually, I do avoid mainstream, but my confusion is because my daughter is nurse and at the height of the pandemic she was forced to work with ICU patients dying of "whatever that is". That's what makes me wonder what "it" is because if the physical symtoms are killing, then it can't all be due to mass hysteria or faked cases to make money for doctors and hospitals. I mean, I certainly hope there ISN'T a virus out there, but . . . 

[Grumpy Owl]

45 minutes ago, lshapedroom said:

I am still in the camp of believing that there was a bad Covid virus going around early 2020 and I always base this on the fact so many working doctors were dying, Remembering the UK doctors who have died of covid-19 | The BMJ.  Just wondering if those of you more certain that it's fake could explain those deaths?

 

The British Medical Journal is another mainstream Establishment mouthpiece, you will not find much honest 'truth' in there, rather more parroting of the 'official narrative'.

 

For example:

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The BMA has been collecting the names of doctors in the UK who died while working during the pandemic. This page is a memorial to those lives lost. The list highlights especially the devastating toll on doctors from a Black and Minority Ethnic background, including many migrant workers on whom the NHS depends.

 

Believe it or not, doctors are just as much human beings as the rest of us, and it is not uncommon for them to fall ill and die themselves.

 

Again, they could have died for any number of reasons, but it 'suits the narrative' if they can all be labelled as 'Covid deaths' too.

 

Look at their ages too, just scanning through the list, the vast majority are over 50 - out of curiosity I just calculated the average age as 63

[lshapedroom]

14 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

Believe it or not, doctors are just as much human beings as the rest of us, and it is not uncommon for them to fall ill and die themselves.

 

Again, they could have died for any number of reasons, but it 'suits the narrative' if they can all be labelled as 'Covid deaths' too.

 

Look at their ages too, just scanning through the list, the vast majority are over 50 - out of curiosity I just calculated the average age as 63

Thanks, your explanation makes sense, I was surprised myself at the ages.

[Grumpy Owl]

2 minutes ago, lshapedroom said:

Thanks, your explanation makes sense, I was surprised myself at the ages.

 

Its remarkable how many over-70s the NHS employs, I count 10 on that list. Oldest one I can see is 84 years old.

[scowie]

The 5G-ventilator combo and the care home euthanasia campaigns.

 

I guess you've heard of "silent/happy hypoxia"? That is the only new disease that doctors saw last year (well, new outside of the military that is). It's when patients have very low oximeter readings which doctors previously thought were not compatible with consciousness, yet here they are fully compos mentis. Now this paper explains what I reckon is responsible: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1mX1fSrTzvWIxJBOC0Q8POLD0XhBQSpDv

 

Millimetre microwave radiation kills red blood cells and reduces tissue respiration. I would say that the reduction in oxygen saturation is a deliberate reaction by the body. The destruction of red blood cells releases cell-free haem (the iron-containing oxygen-transporting molecule) into the blood stream which is highly oxidative so the body reduces oxygen saturation to minimize the oxidative damage. This means that the government-mandated treatment of ventilator usage is precisely the worst possible treatment. It's no wonder so many died: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIDsKdeFOmQ

 

It's not really a respiratory condition at all, although one other thing that can make doctors think it is is another symptom of radiation poisoning known as pulmonary haemosiderosis. This is when haem gets deposited around the lungs and shows up on chest x-rays as ground-glass opacities — doctors mistake this for fluid and think intubation is necessary when it definitely is not.

 

That paper also mentions reduced ascorbic acid (vitamin C) and, as it is known to assist iron-absorption, high dose vitamin C would make sense as a treatment (even though most doctors consider that voodoo). And using zinc in combination also makes sense seeing as another "covid" symptom that you might have heard of is a reduced sense of taste and smell, which is a known symptom of zinc deficiency. Zinc is important for the production of the globin molecule that makes up haemoglobin so it is likely that the body's zinc is being diverted to bone marrow for this purpose causing deficiency symptoms in the organs that also require zinc. This includes the olfactory bulb and also the hippocampus and the retinae (brain fog and light sensitivity are also "covid" symptoms).

 

The people who suffer this disease are not accidental victims btw. What's new about 5G, as well as the higher frequencies, is the beam-forming technology it uses.  That means that the signals of many transmitters on a mast (some have 100+) can be synchronized so that, through constructive interference, one device (or one person) can be hit with high amplitudes of radiation whilst others in the area, even those much closer to the mast, are not (radiation levels recorded by a bystander close to a tower would suggest they output much less radiation than 4G). Now, the people who were dropping like flies in New York hospitals were the poorest of society... they were clearly not the early uptakers of 5G tech, so if they were being hit with this radiation it is because the technology has been weaponized and these people have been deliberately targeted.

 

As for why anyone would want to do this — basically, the capital holders who puppeteer our governments are a bunch of idealistic psychopaths. They have already declared their plans to the world — literally written in stone, i.e. the Georgia Guidestones. They intend to reduce the world's population to 500 million and the most reliable and covert way to do this is through anti-fertility vaccines. To that end they need to create a disease scare so that vaccination can be forced on the populace (or life can be made very difficult for those who refuse). Btw, anti-fertility vaccines have already been tested on girls in Kenya: https://www.pop.org/whos-behind-the-program-to-sterilize-kenyan-women-without-their-consent/

 

There have also been many deaths in care homes from other causes; still deliberate though...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrD8lkhc4aw

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12100515/care-homes-accused-sedatives-coronavirus-die-quickly/

...including covid vaccines of course: https://youtu.be/nZRYTx6D9x0?t=664

 

Btw, if you want to avoid getting targeted by the 5G weaponry, I suggest you avoid using a mobile or wifi device for long periods at home. Use Ethernet rather than Wifi. This is because when you use these devices your position can now be triangulated. This is thanks to all the microwave receivers that now sit on top of our new LED street lights.

Edited June 1, 2021 by scowie