Russia First Country To Force Vaccines ??

[Shining-one]

Yes, just heard that Medvedev is finalising a legal rule to allow forced vaccines, in the interest of the State. That is obviously a fundamental shift. It's unlikely that would happen here but I suppose some E.U. countries could follow Russia. This crisis so far has plenty of copycat elements.
Not yet sure whether Russia's plan will simply link employment to the vaccine or use that kind of coercion. At the moment I'm in contact with a Russian female from Irkuts who's anti-vax so will ask her.
So far my opposition to this has been academic and based on principle. Should there be an attempt to force vaccine, my opposition would become far more militant. And to be honest I always base my groundwork on a worst case scenario. What happened in Poland in 1939 could certainly happen again. Many people were left taken by surprise when it happened.

[TetraG]

Liked your post, especially the militant part (I mean if unavoidable), where if our hand is forced, and that spreads as policy in other countries, to which some of us might belong. 

 

Hmmmmm.

Lets wait and see what your friend in Irkuts has plans for in the face of such terror.  Horrible to even think about. 

 

Ps, I think Michael Palin of UK celebrity may have been the one to inform me of Irkuts on TV one time, being quite the travelling man. 

 

 

[Shining-one]

31 minutes ago, TetraG said:

Liked your post, especially the militant part (I mean if unavoidable), where if our hand is forced, and that spreads as policy in other countries, to which some of us might belong. 

 

Hmmmmm.

Lets wait and see what your friend in Irkuts has plans for in the face of such terror.  Horrible to even think about. 

 

Ps, I think Michael Palin of UK celebrity may have been the one to inform me of Irkuts on TV one time, being quite the travelling man. 

 

 

My philosophy always was to prepare for the worst case scenario. The worst thing is to not be prepared when your personal freedom is attacked. Arrest and isolation of those who oppose all this vaccine nonsense remains a "possibility". 

In the case of Russia, lots of people are feeling alienated from the government and don't trust the vaccine. It's a classic example of why a State should never be allowed in any way to "rule" a people. The people must be involved in all decisions that affect war, peace, health and industry. That's the minimum base of democracy.The current culture of careerist leeches and smug oligarchs in political office has led to this crisis. 

[andy1033]

It probably means, they are expecting more biological weapons to be released in future.

 

They probably want to react quickly.

 

The uk gov last month or something set up a new health department.

[Shining-one]

Turns out Russia isn't making their vaccine obligatory. The speech was by Medvedev but the overall decision went against his views.

[TetraG]

Ah, thankyou for the update Shining One. Relief then for your friend. Good.  

Edited May 28, 2021 by TetraG

[TetraG]

On 5/19/2021 at 10:45 PM, andy1033 said:

The uk gov last month or something set up a new health department.

 

Do we know the new UK health department name? /precise true reason for setup set against officially viewed purpose. Etc?? 

Edited May 28, 2021 by TetraG

[eddy64]

might mean phe having some sort of setup at porton down biological and chemical weapons facility in salisbury run by the mod or i could be wrong.

[DarianF]

On 5/20/2021 at 12:04 AM, Shining-one said:

Yes, just heard that Medvedev is finalising a legal rule to allow forced vaccines, in the interest of the State. That is obviously a fundamental shift. It's unlikely that would happen here but I suppose some E.U. countries could follow Russia. This crisis so far has plenty of copycat elements.
Not yet sure whether Russia's plan will simply link employment to the vaccine or use that kind of coercion. At the moment I'm in contact with a Russian female from Irkuts who's anti-vax so will ask her.
So far my opposition to this has been academic and based on principle. Should there be an attempt to force vaccine, my opposition would become far more militant. And to be honest I always base my groundwork on a worst case scenario. What happened in Poland in 1939 could certainly happen again. Many people were left taken by surprise when it happened.


 

 

Flashback: Alex Jones Predicted Forced Vaccine Tyranny Over 10 Years Ago

https://www.infowars.com/posts/flashback-alex-jones-predicted-forced-vaccine-tyranny-over-10-years-ago/

[Shining-one]

Looks as if Lukashenko is in the spotlight. Personally, I guess he asked for it. Pretty much hijacking a civilian aircraft to make an arrest. The irony is Putin is now supporting him.
It would be nice to look at all of this as good guys and bad guys, but they are all now simply bad guys. Putin appears to have become a remote dictator but doesn't hide it. The EU claims to be different but their leaders wouldn't know what democracy and liberty mean by a long stretch. If I see anything positive for the future I would say it would mean a total end to fake representation of masses of people by self motivated monopolist groups. They appear to be irrelevant dinosaurs - the lot of them. This Covid crisis has done a wonderful job of exposing the attitude of politicians that looks upon populations as servants and serfs. I think back in the Raegan Gorbachev era, politics was a genuine building block in social structure but those days are gone.

[Mikheil]

I don't believe that Putin would kill off people in his own country. It is interesting that there are multiple vaccines. Sputnik V for Putin supporters, a different one for dissidents?

 

I remember Astrazeneca had 'talks' with Sputnik V creators. Perhaps exported Sputnik V is Astrazeneca in a Sputnik V bottle?

 

Do I trust my government? - FUCK NO!

Do I trust ANY government? - Fuck No. Are you crazy?