Firebird Posted May 18, 2021 Author Share Posted May 18, 2021 1 hour ago, oddsnsods said: Trust me its paid to troll Rocco again. Yes, Griffin. There's two types of right wingers. Some side with Israel, some don't. Again, this is a distraction from the actual thread and the question I asked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Just now, Firebird said: Yes, Griffin. There's two types of right wingers. Some side with Israel, some don't. Again, this is a distraction from the actual thread and the question I asked! Coz Griffin knows: Who is bombing Muslim countries Who is bringing Muslims into Europe. Who is behind the war on terror. Who is behind the media virus. Who is enslaving & poisoning us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebird Posted May 18, 2021 Author Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) None of that explains why some media, mainstream and alternative and conspiracy, are underreporting bombing of churches, murder by machete or knife, or protests against Mohammed cartoons. ''The Jews'' or ''the Freemasons'' are not an excuse. Muslims are people and therefore responsible for what they do. Media should report on the attacks on random people and on freedom of speech. Not reporting it shows they are biased and have an agenda, which is often aligning with anti-Christian sentiment and anti-liberalism. Alternative media shouldn't be CNN 2.0, LOL. Edited May 18, 2021 by Firebird 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Firebird said: None of that explains why some media, mainstream and alternative and conspiracy, are underreporting bombing of churches, murder by machete or knife, or protests against Mohammed cartoons. ''The Jews'' or ''the Freemasons'' are not an excuse. Muslims are people and therefore responsible for what they do. Media should report on the attacks on random people and on freedom of speech. Not reporting it shows they are biased and have an agenda, which is often aligning with anti-Christian sentiment and anti-liberalism. Alternative media shouldn't be CNN 2.0, LOL. I'll repeat for you as you are slow. Who is bombing Muslim countries Who is bringing Muslims into Europe. Who is behind the war on terror. Who is behind the media virus. Who is enslaving & poisoning us. Heres another: Who is behind the lobbyists trying to shut down free speech? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) 45 minutes ago, oddsnsods said: Trust me its paid to troll Rocco again. Bravo Nick Griffin...... don't know what to make of him to be honest.... I know there's a lot of infighting and people like Mark Collet and others think he ruined the Nationalist movement....... and also what's he doing now? Selling sets of chain mail and Templar swords by post. It's all a bit barmy but hell, if I had a load of third world dialectics trying to break into my house I'd be grateful of a Nick Griffin Templar sword. Has anyone tested the swords for chopping and cleaving power? Inquiring minds want to know. Edited May 18, 2021 by Truthspoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebird Posted May 18, 2021 Author Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, oddsnsods said: I'll repeat for you as you are slow. Who is bombing Muslim countries Who is bringing Muslims into Europe. Who is behind the war on terror. Who is behind the media virus. Who is enslaving & poisoning us. Heres another: Who is behind the lobbyists trying to shut down free speech? This is my thread and I'm the one asking a question. Wanna talk about other groups, make a thread about it. You still haven't dealt with the actual topic, you just deflect. Why is the media, conspiracy media in particular, underreporting attacks on churches and random people getting killed by Muslims? Edited May 18, 2021 by Firebird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 49 minutes ago, oddsnsods said: Trust me its paid to troll Rocco again. Yes, it looks that way doesn't it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebird Posted May 18, 2021 Author Share Posted May 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Truthspoon said: Yes, it looks that way doesn't it. This kind of logic is why the alternative media isn't taken more seriously at large. If you so quickly judge your conversation opponent in such a way then you can't be taken seriously. ''He disagrees with me, so he's with the Jews!!!!'' Still not dealing with the actual topic. Just whataboutery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Firebird said: This kind of logic is why the alternative media isn't taken more seriously at large. If you so quickly judge your conversation opponent in such a way then you can't be taken seriously. ''He disagrees with me, so he's with the Jews!!!!'' Still not dealing with the actual topic. Just whataboutery. Not at all. I asked you a question. You didn't answer it. I didn't even mention the Jews You have to something to hide. It is you who are not the honest broker here and it is YOU who needs to be called to account for themselves. As you can see I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt but you have proved Porridge right. You're not very good at this are you? Edited May 18, 2021 by Truthspoon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Firebird Posted May 18, 2021 Author Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) I'll just try this again for anyone who's actually interested in dealing with the actual topic: Why is the conspiracy movement underreporting when it comes to Muslims attacking random people with knives, machetes, or blowing up churches and other places? I think alternative media shouldn't be a BBC 2.0, CNN 2.0 etc. There's enough media that underreport these issues already! ( Is it because part of the conspiracy movement comes from a Labour background? (that is usually against the West, Christianity, Israel). Is it because of personal friendships with Muslims? (bromance explanation). Is there some other explanation? ) Edited May 18, 2021 by Firebird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Truthspoon said: Thing is Porridge, you're right.......but just think what if this guy was kind of new to all this...... Just go easy on him.......... we know that so called Muslim rape gangs in our towns are taking over and being immune from police prosecution.... which are the facts on the ground....... We know Muslims are being shipped into England precisely to destroy our culture and history........ and we know WHO is doing it. Some people haven't got that far. Give 'em a chance. A lot of good people have moved on from the Tommeh Tommeh Zio-stooge narrative to find the truth of what is really going on. Of course, we've been here all along trying to explain it. They'll get there. oddsnsods is Porridge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebird Posted May 18, 2021 Author Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Truthspoon said: Not at all. I asked you a question. You didn't answer it. I didn't even mention the Jews You have to something to hide. It is you who are not the honest broker here and it is YOU who needs to be called to account for themselves. As you can see I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt but you have proved Porridge right. You're not very good at this are you? Why try and make it personal? Try harder bro. Better you just focus on the actual topic. I'm the one asking the question. I won't let this go off topic. Wanna start a topic on another ethnicity or group, I'm all ears. I've participated at length in the Jews topic. But now we're talking about the Muslims and why they're getting so many free rides in almost all the media. Edited May 18, 2021 by Firebird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, Firebird said: Why try and make it personal? Try harder bro. Better you just focus on the actual topic. I'm the one asking the question. I won't let this go off topic. Wanna start a topic on another ethnicity or group, I'm all ears. I've participated at length in the Jews topic. But now we're talking about the Muslims and why they're getting so many free rides in almost all the media. Game over bruv. Better luck next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebird Posted May 18, 2021 Author Share Posted May 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Truthspoon said: Game over bruv. Better luck next time. Yes, I'll wait for people that wish to answer the actual question, or explore it with me. No need to have those around that want to deflect and do whataboutery. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 35 minutes ago, Truthspoon said: Bravo Nick Griffin...... don't know what to make of him to be honest.... I know there's a lot of infighting and people like Mark Collet and others think he ruined the Nationalist movement....... and also what's he doing now? Selling sets of chain mail and Templar swords by post. It's all a bit barmy but hell, if I had a load of third world dialectics trying to break into my house I'd be grateful of a Nick Griffin Templar sword. Has anyone tested the swords for chopping and cleaving power? Inquiring minds want to know. Never been a follower, but he definitely talks the truth on a few topics & is always posting about Muslim rape gangs. That was the point I was making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 35 minutes ago, Moonlight said: oddsnsods is Porridge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 24 minutes ago, Firebird said: Yes, I'll wait for people that wish to answer the actual question, or explore it with me. No need to have those around that want to deflect and do whataboutery. If you really don't know the answer to your own question, then I suggest again you are just trying to stoke up tension and turn this topic into a massive argument. Divide and rule. Hegelian dialectic (problem-reaction-solution) Pro-this or anti-that. Islam and Muslims are being manipulated the same way that Judaism and Jews are. "Staged terror attacks" serve a purpose of creating a 'perceived threat'. Once you have a 'threat', then people can be turned against it. Different people with different agendas can also play on this theme in order to target certain other groups of people, and make them 'take sides'. Confusion and contradiction can be effectively added to the mix. Islamic extremists will blow up or stab people, but Islam is a 'religion of peace'? We are all victims, if we blindly play along with this game of identity politics. Identifying and labelling oneself as 'pro-Islam' or 'anti-Israel' etc is just playing into the hands of those seeking to keep us all divided and distracted from who we should all really be directing our ire towards. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebird Posted May 18, 2021 Author Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Grumpy Owl said: If you really don't know the answer to your own question, then I suggest again you are just trying to stoke up tension and turn this topic into a massive argument. Divide and rule. Hegelian dialectic (problem-reaction-solution) Pro-this or anti-that. Islam and Muslims are being manipulated the same way that Judaism and Jews are. "Staged terror attacks" serve a purpose of creating a 'perceived threat'. Once you have a 'threat', then people can be turned against it. Different people with different agendas can also play on this theme in order to target certain other groups of people, and make them 'take sides'. Confusion and contradiction can be effectively added to the mix. Islamic extremists will blow up or stab people, but Islam is a 'religion of peace'? We are all victims, if we blindly play along with this game of identity politics. Identifying and labelling oneself as 'pro-Islam' or 'anti-Israel' etc is just playing into the hands of those seeking to keep us all divided and distracted from who we should all really be directing our ire towards. You can believe it's all staged and that everyone is a victim. Meanwhile, I'll continue to rightly view terrorists, rapists, and murderers as wrong and not just ''victims of the invisible elite''. I'm not interested in any PRS because I'm only stating a problem, which is the media (incl. alternative conspiracy media's) lack of coverage of Muslims attacking people, calling for blasphemy laws, and bombing churches. If you wanna deflect and ignore it, fine. Meanwhile, I'll continue to ask this: WHY is the alternative conspiracy media covering so little of it? Incidentally, you're portraying your own position as the synthesis, stating that both sides (either pro or anti Islam) are wrong and your position is the solution to the differences of either side. THat's just lazy and doesn't provide an answer to the question. I see this question is a really tough one to answer. Edited May 18, 2021 by Firebird 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 3 hours ago, Truthspoon said: Bravo Nick Griffin...... don't know what to make of him to be honest.... I know there's a lot of infighting and people like Mark Collet and others think he ruined the Nationalist movement....... and also what's he doing now? Selling sets of chain mail and Templar swords by post. It's all a bit barmy but hell, if I had a load of third world dialectics trying to break into my house I'd be grateful of a Nick Griffin Templar sword. Has anyone tested the swords for chopping and cleaving power? Inquiring minds want to know. Nick thinks it's too late for a political solution, but I think he still appreciates the fact that groups like PA are trying as far as I'm aware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo102 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 On 5/19/2021 at 6:04 AM, Firebird said: I'll just try this again for anyone who's actually interested in dealing with the actual topic: Why is the conspiracy movement underreporting when it comes to Muslims attacking random people with knives, machetes, or blowing up churches and other places? How do you know that Muslims are doing this, as opposed to people who are called Muslims? In Judaism you've got Edomites, Khazars, and Askenazis, in Christianity you've got Pharisees/Saduccees, and in Islam you've got Wahabbism and Sunni extremism (eg ISIS). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebird Posted May 22, 2021 Author Share Posted May 22, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, theo102 said: How do you know that Muslims are doing this, as opposed to people who are called Muslims? In Judaism you've got Edomites, Khazars, and Askenazis, in Christianity you've got Pharisees/Saduccees, and in Islam you've got Wahabbism and Sunni extremism (eg ISIS). Muslims have been doing this everywhere they go, from the UK to India and from Sweden to Nigeria. Stop making these pathetic excuses. Islam is a disgusting religion. Edited May 22, 2021 by Firebird 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 29 minutes ago, Firebird said: Muslims have been doing this everywhere they go, from the UK to India and from Sweden to Nigeria. Stop making these pathetic excuses. Islam is a disgusting religion. Did muslims aid the movement of millions of muslims into the west? were the muslims the politicians and NGO's that created that process? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo102 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Firebird said: Muslims have been doing this everywhere they go, from the UK to India and from Sweden to Nigeria. Stop making these pathetic excuses. Islam is a disgusting religion. You can't deal with the truth. Quran 9:119 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo102 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, Firebird said: Only idiots defend Islam. Why wold anyone believe you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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