numnuts Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 (edited) So, how many rockets are actually said to have landed in Israel, which have 'supposedly' led to the 10 or so Israelis being killed? I always take the 'official' Israeli death toll with a large pinch of salt. However, assuming the figure of 10 Israeli casualties was about right, then would a ratio of something like 20 rockets per Israeli casualty be feasible? Edited May 20 by numnuts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibizan Hound Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Israel ask for a ceasefire agreement! Report: Israel agrees to cease-fire Al Jazeera reports Israel has informed Egypt of its willingness to end operation, reach cease-fire with Hamas. Arutz Sheva Staff , May 20 , 2021 6:53 PM The Qatari-based Al Jazeera network reports that Israel has informed the Egyptian government of its intention to end Operation Guardian of the walls and reach a cease-fire with the Hamas terrorist organization. The cabinet is expected to convene at 7 PM and discuss the continuation of the operation and the possibility of a ceasefire. Several barrages of rockets have been fired throughout the day towards Israeli civilian centers, including towards Ashkelon, Netiv Ha'asarah, Karmia, Zikim, Kerem Shalom, Kissufim, Nahal Oz, and other areas.https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/306541 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby Noboddy Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 11 hours ago, numnuts said: So, how many rockets are actually said to have landed in Israel, which have 'supposedly' led to the 10 or so Israelis being killed? I always take the 'official' Israeli death toll with a large pinch of salt. However, assuming the figure of 10 Israeli casualties was about right, then would a ratio of something like 20 rockets per Israeli casualty be feasible? On the BBC they kept saying 'people' killed in Israel which makes me suspect they were Christians and Muslims not jews 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velma Posted May 20 Author Share Posted May 20 18 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said: Can't see this staying up for long. Edit: it's a bit subversive though as he says America benefits from the relationship. I think the opposite, that Israel uses the US as a proxy army, to destroy it's "enemies" who are an obstacle to 'Greater Israel' from the Nile to the Euphrates. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 1 hour ago, Velma said: I think the opposite, that Israel uses the US as a proxy army, to destroy it's "enemies" who are an obstacle to 'Greater Israel' from the Nile to the Euphrates. Agreed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack121 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Don't see how blaming god for all of this is justifiable or gives the jews this right. Where is it written this is the will of god, unless he has some divine connection. He is right on one thing america is the jews slave and has been for some time, over here in the uk it is more or less the same story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Velma Posted May 21 Author Share Posted May 21 An eleven day "incursion" into Gaza and already Israel are calling for a truce. It appears the international outcry and clamor against the occupation has put undue pressure of the oppressor to bring a cessation to their violence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManOfOdin Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Frankly, I love how the American Media here were I am is trying to act like Disproportionate Force mean anything other then fricking Carpet Bombing of the Palestine. Oh, by the way to those blaming Jews for what is happening, Jews are just as diverse as Islam and Christianity, not all of them agree with Israel any more then Muslims agree with Saudi Arabia or Christians agree with Homophobia. The only Jews who I hate are the Ultra-Orthodox and Chabad Cults and their creepy child raping ways? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemuri Kyoshiro Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 So, will Israel's $30,000,000 monthly payments to Hamas continue? They must have thought it was a great idea to fund a movement that would compete, so to speak, with Arafat's Fatah party. Read the linked article by the Washington Post from 2014 when the media was less constrained by Mockingbird. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/07/30/how-israel-helped-create-hamas/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsman Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 On 5/13/2021 at 3:53 PM, Woodsman said: I have friends that are both Jews and Arabs and wish all this nonsense would STOP and real peace come to the region instead of using religious views to kill innocent civilians. Religion and Politics cause more harm and stress to humans than all diseases. The officials on both side are idiots. Conflicts continue because people hate religions and races and there is much obvious hatred/racism and swearing in some of the posts here which is not helping to calm down the situation. Administrators/Moderators please take note:- Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemuri Kyoshiro Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 This whole debacle has been run to keep Bibi in power. How many elections do they need before they get rid of the bloodthirsty bastard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said: This whole debacle has been run to keep Bibi in power. How many elections do they need before they get rid of the bloodthirsty bastard? Is there any serious opposition to him that doesn't want their 2800 slaves? Edited May 21 by EnigmaticWorld 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibizan Hound Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 10 hours ago, jack121 said: Don't see how blaming god for all of this is justifiable or gives the jews this right. Israeli security establishment said to recognize IDF damage to Hamas was less than initially thought Today, 6:43 pm Following this morning’s ceasefire, senior members of Israel’s security establishment tell Haaretz that its strikes on Hamas’s rocket arsenal were less damaging than originally thought. However, they tell the paper that the operation still deterred Hamas, which deployed fighters across the border with Israel today to ensure that no one there violates the ceasefire. https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israeli-security-establishment-said-to-recognize-idf-damage-to-hamas-was-less-than-initially-thought/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ink Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 I would like you all to consider something. Now while PM's are PRIVATE .... I can post regarding hypothetical 'concepts' without any actual information. Lets say a 'member' who has been on the forum for sometime (and is thought of 'ok / good') has to interact with the moderation team and they dislike that interaction because they do not get that which they want .... part of which (lets say hypothetically) is the deletion of all and any racist posts or 'hate speech' (defined by them) within this thread! And then they imply that the forum may be closed or hacked again! Considering the horrendous acts committed by Israel against Palestine (in the past and currently) .... what would you do with that member .... hypothetically ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 1 minute ago, ink said: I would like you all to consider something. Now while PM's are PRIVATE .... I can post regarding hypothetical 'concepts' without any actual information. Lets say a 'member' who has been on the forum for sometime (and is thought of 'ok / good') has to interact with the moderation team and they dislike that interaction because they do not get that which they want .... part of which (lets say hypothetically) is the deletion of all and any racist posts or 'hate speech' (defined by them) within this thread! And then they imply that the forum may be closed or hacked again! Considering the horrendous acts committed by Israel against Palestine (in the past and currently) .... what would you do with that member .... hypothetically ? I haven't read all of this thread so i don't know what has been said on it But hypothetically speaking would this person be trying to shut down comments that are critical of zionist state aggression? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 5 hours ago, Velma said: An eleven day "incursion" into Gaza and already Israel are calling for a truce. It appears the international outcry and clamor against the occupation has put undue pressure of the oppressor to bring a cessation to their violence. Or they just achieved all of their military objectives: -assassinations of key enemy personnel -bombing of underground tunnels -destruction of a media centre which may or may not have acted as a front for hamas military activity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 No need to get caught in this Israel Palestine hogwash.. All engineered by the same cabal. There is an esoteric reason why they need to keep up the conflict in that area. all apparently 'fighting' factions are bedfellows..do not invest your energy there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwopackShugar Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 10 minutes ago, ink said: I would like you all to consider something. Now while PM's are PRIVATE .... I can post regarding hypothetical 'concepts' without any actual information. Lets say a 'member' who has been on the forum for sometime (and is thought of 'ok / good') has to interact with the moderation team and they dislike that interaction because they do not get that which they want .... part of which (lets say hypothetically) is the deletion of all and any racist posts or 'hate speech' (defined by them) within this thread! And then they imply that the forum may be closed or hacked again! Considering the horrendous acts committed by Israel against Palestine (in the past and currently) .... what would you do with that member .... hypothetically ? that depends could we Stone them... hypothetically of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ink Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 6 minutes ago, Macnamara said: But hypothetically speaking would this person be trying to shut down comments that are critical of zionist state aggression? Hypothetically .... Lets say that it would seem so! 1 minute ago, TwopackShugar said: that depends could we Stone them... hypothetically of course Hypothetically .... I am not sure if Monty Python applies as a remedy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metak88 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 14 minutes ago, ink said: And then they imply that the forum may be closed or hacked again! You just had to jinx it with your happy anniversary recently... ;-) 14 minutes ago, ink said: Considering the horrendous acts committed by Israel against Palestine (in the past and currently) .... what would you do with that member .... hypothetically ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ink said: Hypothetically .... Lets say that it would seem so! so the resident sayanim or hasbara is going to shut us down? (again) Edited May 21 by Macnamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ink Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 12 minutes ago, Macnamara said: so the resident sayanim or hasbara is going to shut us down? (again) Hypothetically speaking .... I don't know mate but hypothetically .... Lets say that the forum was threatened (by a current well known member) because of MY lying (according to them) and actions in moderation AND because of racist posts and hate speech within this thread which they want removed??? .... (or else!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 5 minutes ago, ink said: Hypothetically speaking .... I don't know mate but hypothetically .... Lets say that the forum was threatened (by a current well known member) because of MY lying (according to them) and actions in moderation AND because of racist posts and hate speech within this thread which they want removed??? .... (or else!) have the ickes backed things up? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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