McCann's remaining "hopeful" as Madeleine's 18th birthday approaches.

[Nemuri Kyoshiro]

8 hours ago, numnuts said:

I have recently been thinking about the details of this case a bit more. We all know what happened, but I am wondering whether it could have happened the night before it was supposed to have happened. Has anyone else ever considered this possibility? Or maybe some of the evidence that emerged in the case would rule it out. I don't know.  

Richard Hall thinks Maddie was killed before the night it is alleged she was kidnapped. The basis for his theory is an analysis of the photo of Maddie in a bathing suit by the pool. His videos - which are excellent - goes into this in some depth.

[Teardropexplodes]

On 2/1/2022 at 1:03 AM, Anti Facts Sir said:

WTF!!!????

 

Memory wipe please!

I know, it's horrific. This one quote is enough to change anyone's opinion. Felt bad showing it to my mum but it's kind of like the WTC7 moment. Once you've seen it you can't go back.

[numnuts]

16 hours ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

Richard Hall thinks Maddie was killed before the night it is alleged she was kidnapped. The basis for his theory is an analysis of the photo of Maddie in a bathing suit by the pool. His videos - which are excellent - goes into this in some depth.

 

In the early to mid 2010's, I watched a few videos about the McCanns. However, while I might still watch something I randomly come across, I don't actively look to watch any more videos. You get to a certain point, where it is so blindingly obvious as to what happened, that you don't really feel you need to. And what happened, happened, regardless of whether it was on the night it was supposed to have happened or on the night before. Some times, though, an idea can just pop in to your head and you wonder if anyone else has had the same thought.

 

I will check out Richard Hall's video, as I can remember that it has already been recommended as worth watching on this thread. Can you remember, offhand, whether Hall spotted something unusual and then came to the conclusion that whatever happened to Maddie occurred a day earlier; or did he just have a hunch that was what happened and then later found some evidence that corroborated his theory? I am very interested to know, which way round, but maybe he didn't say.

 

For me, it was a case of the latter and what I would call universal, common sense. Your mind processes all of the data and an idea comes to you. See, once the McCanns raised the alarm, then they had already made the final decision to go with their story. If they had already made the final decision to go with their story, then it was in their hands when they did so. Their time would have been very limited that night and it is only logical that the likes of heart surgeon Gerry would have postponed the facade for a day. They needed to clean the apartment and get their story straight. They weren't going to raise any alarm, until night had again fallen, either. I also wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that at least some of the Tapas Seven assisted the McCanns, freemasonry in action, after getting a sob story. The 'Tanner sighting', of a man carrying a child away, seems like a rehearsed lie to me.                

Edited February 5, 2022 by numnuts

[Wayfaring Stranger]

Natural grief should begin to diminish in about 30 days. Two years later you will still get a lump in your throat when the 'name comes up. What changes is the amount of time you are experiencing grief. As you 'move on' you deal with other things that 'life' throws your way.

Since I have seen Richard Hall's version, I do  not think I am stretching things when I generalize  and promote that 'child beauty contests' tend to attract the most vile of people. How many of the abducted children that were sent as 'cargo to Orgy Island' ever left the island alive? None or a very few handful.

Jimmy Saville would have been a frequent visitor to that island, and bringing many big wigs from the EU with him for the  visit.

[Nemuri Kyoshiro]

56 minutes ago, numnuts said:

I will check out Richard Hall's video, as I can remember that it has already been recommended as worth watching on this thread. Can you remember, offhand, whether Hall spotted something unusual and then came to the conclusion that whatever happened to Maddie occurred a day earlier; or did he just have a hunch that was what happened and then later found some evidence that corroborated his theory? I am very interested to know, which way round, but maybe he didn't say.

Richard's videos are long and packed with details. It's hard to single out one thing that he uses to support his hypothesis that Maddie died earlier but he deals with the 'last photo' of Maddie at about the 25 minute mark of his video 'When Madeleine Died?' I highly recommend watching the whole series from start to finish. Richard has done some great stuff down the years but, for me, this is his best work of all.

 

 

[Grumpy Owl]

Richard D Hall's videos on this case are certainly recommended watching.

 

He may not have the answers to what "actually happened", but he certainly picks apart the 'official narrative' in some detail.

 

Many years before I even heard of Common Purpose, every year it seemed the Met Police were granted yet more funding so they could continue to send officers to Portugal to 'continue the investigation'. I have commented elsewhere in the past that I suspected the money was just being used so senior ranking police officers could enjoy a freebie holiday on the Algarve, and take in a few leisurely rounds of golf.

 

I also don't recall seeing it ever explained anywhere how the Met ever got involved with this case in the first place. The McCanns were from Leicestershire, not London, and the 'crime' was carried out in a different country.

 

I do recall from one of RDH's videos, where some allegations were made about a British paedophile gang operating in the Algarve area, and I think it was suggested that the reason the British government and Met Police were so heavily involved, was to ensure the Portugese police investigation kept well away from this secret paedophile operation.

[Wayfaring Stranger]

As I mentioned, grief does fade with time. Guilt, on the other hand, increases with time. Grief would be a 24/7 thingy, while guilt would be a lie told to support you were not guilty of the crime.  Looking at child beauty contest be the best way of keeping that list of victims as short as possible.

I'm going to guess that nobody has watched the vids about 'tourist orphanages in Cambodia' being about buying a child to torture to death rather than it is an adoption with a university education down the road.

[Wayfaring Stranger]

1 hour ago, Grumpy Owl said:

Richard D Hall's videos on this case are certainly recommended watching.

 

He may not have the answers to what "actually happened", but he certainly picks apart the 'official narrative' in some detail.

 

Many years before I even heard of Common Purpose, every year it seemed the Met Police were granted yet more funding so they could continue to send officers to Portugal to 'continue the investigation'. I have commented elsewhere in the past that I suspected the money was just being used so senior ranking police officers could enjoy a freebie holiday on the Algarve, and take in a few leisurely rounds of golf.

 

I also don't recall seeing it ever explained anywhere how the Met ever got involved with this case in the first place. The McCanns were from Leicestershire, not London, and the 'crime' was carried out in a different country.

 

I do recall from one of RDH's videos, where some allegations were made about a British paedophile gang operating in the Algarve area, and I think it was suggested that the reason the British government and Met Police were so heavily involved, was to ensure the Portugese police investigation kept well away from this secret paedophile operation.

There were a pair of brothers from the US that were also suspects. There were also part of 'Pizzagate' if I'm not mistaken. Jeckle Island is also one of the better known hangouts.

[bamboozooka]

shergar? did someone say shergar?

[numnuts]

3 hours ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

Richard's videos are long and packed with details. It's hard to single out one thing that he uses to support his hypothesis that Maddie died earlier but he deals with the 'last photo' of Maddie at about the 25 minute mark of his video 'When Madeleine Died?' I highly recommend watching the whole series from start to finish. Richard has done some great stuff down the years but, for me, this is his best work of all.

 

I have now done a quick bit of reading and video watching of Hall's work. He seems to think there was a 4 day gap, not a 1 day gap, between when Maddie met her demise and when the McCanns reported her disappearance to the police. Quite possible, I suppose. If so, then I would suggest it was more to do with the McCanns wanting the Tapas 7 being able to quickly skip Dodge, before the cops had a chance to figure out that something very fishy was going on; rather than wanting more time to get their own story straight. 

 

I am still intrigued, as to how any court case might go down in Germany. Wouldn't Brueckner be allowed to question the McCanns in court? Would the jury have to be flown out all the way to Portugal, for any reconstruction that took place? Just ludicrous. At the end of it all:

 

Judge - 'What is your verdict?'

Jury foreman - 'Guilty, your honour.'

Judge - 'Take him down.'

Jury foreman - 'No, not him, you fukking idiot. The McCanns!' 

Edited February 5, 2022 by numnuts

[Nobby Noboddy]

26 minutes ago, bamboozooka said:

shergar? did someone say shergar?

And indeed, Shergar was a dude too!

[Bombadil]

2 hours ago, Wayfaring Stranger said:

There were a pair of brothers from the US that were also suspects. There were also part of 'Pizzagate' if I'm not mistaken. Jeckle Island is also one of the better known hangouts.

Podesta  brothers. Google the paintings on the wall at one of their houses. Kids in barbed wire etc. also they look a lot like the so photo fits released.

Edited February 5, 2022 by Bombadil

[Nemuri Kyoshiro]

3 hours ago, numnuts said:

I am still intrigued, as to how any court case might go down in Germany. Wouldn't Brueckner be allowed to question the McCanns in court? Would the jury have to be flown out all the way to Portugal, for any reconstruction that took place? Just ludicrous. At the end of it all:

I know nothing about German law. However, I would assume that any trial would have to take place in Portugal where the crime was committed.  I would further assume that the McCanns would appear as witnesses for the prosecution and would be subject to cross-examination by defence counsel.

[Nemuri Kyoshiro]

4 hours ago, bamboozooka said:

shergar? did someone say shergar?

Those gnashers could circumcise an elephant.

[Ziggy Sawdust]

10 hours ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

I know nothing about German law. However, I would assume that any trial would have to take place in Portugal where the crime was committed.  I would further assume that the McCanns would appear as witnesses for the prosecution and would be subject to cross-examination by defence counsel.

 

The hideous couple and their 'supporters' have been looking for a patsy for 15 years now.

Personally, I'd rather listen to what the Portuguese police who investigated think.

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Chief Inspector Tavares de Almeida told the court that he believed the couple, from Rothley, Leicestershire, were directly involved in Madeleine’s disappearance – a theory he said was shared by Portuguese and British officers working on the case.

He said: “The conclusion that was arrived at was that Madeleine McCann died at the apartment and the McCann couple simulated the abduction to hide the fact that they had not taken care of their children.

“There was a tragic accident in the apartment that night and they neglected the care of their children. It was the conclusion of both Portuguese and British police. We have always spoken of a tragic accidental death. There was no homicide.”

Asked if he thought Madeleine was dead, Mr de Almeida replied: “Yes. She is dead. It was not only the police who believed this but the public prosecutor. The McCanns did not kill her but they concealed the body.”
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Also remember......DOGS DON'T LIE.

 

 

[Bombadil]

1 hour ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

The hideous couple and their 'supporters' have been looking for a patsy for 15 years now.

Personally, I'd rather listen to what the Portuguese police who investigated think.

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Chief Inspector Tavares de Almeida told the court that he believed the couple, from Rothley, Leicestershire, were directly involved in Madeleine’s disappearance – a theory he said was shared by Portuguese and British officers working on the case.

He said: “The conclusion that was arrived at was that Madeleine McCann died at the apartment and the McCann couple simulated the abduction to hide the fact that they had not taken care of their children.

“There was a tragic accident in the apartment that night and they neglected the care of their children. It was the conclusion of both Portuguese and British police. We have always spoken of a tragic accidental death. There was no homicide.”

Asked if he thought Madeleine was dead, Mr de Almeida replied: “Yes. She is dead. It was not only the police who believed this but the public prosecutor. The McCanns did not kill her but they concealed the body.”
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Also remember......DOGS DON'T LIE.

 

 

They managed to get the sniffer dog reaction thrown out. They quoted an obscure case from the USA, where a dog identified blood belonging to a deer not a human. That case dismissed the dog evidence as a result. The Mccans used that example to discredit the evidence mounting up. 
logically if you were completely innocent you would, however terrifying the news, be positive that evidence had been found that might help catch your  child’s abductor/ killer.

[numnuts]

'There's just 33 things that bother me. Gerry, while I go over it all, do you think that Kate might forensically clean my raincoat for me? This could take a while.'

 

[Anti Facts Sir]

Just the stuff with the camera footage and photos is enough to say "dodgy as fuck" to me.

 

Interesting stuff from Richard Hall there about the timeline, and how those people from the PR agency were flown in and then just happened to be there when needed. And the Official Secrets Act stuff. For a missing girl on holiday.

[Nemuri Kyoshiro]

9 hours ago, Bombadil said:

Mccans used that example to discredit the evidence mounting up. 
logically if you were completely innocent you would, however terrifying the news, be positive that evidence had been found that might help catch your  child’s abductor/ killer.

Precisely. That's when they really started to look and act like defendants. If the dog sniffed blood on the outside of the window frame, they'd have been begging the police to follow-up.

[Alistair MacDonald]

This poor little girl is gone and her parents seemed off to put it mildly the way they talked about her, and more sinister is the fact they stayed at the villa of pedo clemont freud where the podesta brothers probably took Madeleine to , as I said her parents where a bit off

[Alistair MacDonald]

On 5/6/2021 at 9:11 AM, Oxide said:

So, they've went on their regular pilgrimage to the media, with the repeating message that they still hold out hope in seeing her again - now using her 18th birthday.

https://news.sky.com/story/madeleine-mccanns-parents-hang-on-to-hope-of-seeing-her-again-in-poignant-message-ahead-of-18th-birthday-12296463

 

So what do we make of this?

The little girl ,God bless her , had an eye anomalie which has a great attraction to the ghouls of this world and I`ve heard it mooted that the little girl might have been sold , God bless her

[MarcusOmouse]

14 hours ago, Alistair MacDonald said:

The little girl ,God bless her , had an eye anomalie which has a great attraction to the ghouls of this world and I`ve heard it mooted that the little girl might have been sold , God bless her

 

Absolutely.

 

And she will be back, albeit from another dimension IMHO.

 

Conjecture of course, but she probably did end up in the hands of the Podestas.

[Nemuri Kyoshiro]

2 hours ago, MarcusOmouse said:

Conjecture of course, but she probably did end up in the hands of the Podestas.

Reasonable conjecture though. Those creeps were in the vicinity and were pals of Clement Freud. Subsequent revelations about Pizzagate and that Alefantis creature makes them more suspect. By the way, is it true that Alefantis is a member of the Rothschild family?

 

https://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/is-james-alefantis-a-rothschild/

[Alistair MacDonald]

On 2/5/2022 at 8:54 PM, bamboozooka said:

shergar? did someone say shergar?

Appropriately " it " comes from the land of the Orcs

[DaleP]

On 5/18/2020 at 1:18 AM, northern star said:

Strange about the Madeleine McCann suspects photofit too, that looked exactly like the Podestas. This was used on an hour long Crimewatch special on the subject

 

 

 

Good find!

 

On 5/18/2020 at 8:28 PM, mdx said:

 

If you google or youtube "sloan bella madeleine McCann" you will find a video by the psychic Sloan Bella. IMO it provides the most believable of all the theories our there and her other psychic readings tend to be q plausible on too (OJ Simpson, Diana) If you watch the video and read the comments then it turns into an interesting situation as the pieces of the puzzle seem to form a picture. Brief notes the McCanns agreed for Madeline to be sold off to what appears to be 2 American men matching the podestas. regarding the Crimewatch e-fit a theory is that this was intentionally leaked on the inside  by someone in intelligence who knows v well that the Podestas were responsible. Too uncanny and unfortunately with a lack of mainstream media outlets or investigative journalists looking into the matter this case will be shelved. 

 

Anyways back to Greer, I think Icke prob holds a grudge due to some of Greer's associates and connections being part of the establishment 

Edited February 18, 2022 by DaleP