Mental health

[Nikki]

I was doing lots of research into covid and vaccines last year... I was deemed mentally unwell and sent to a phsych ward.... On leaving they told me that watching David icke has caused my mental health problems... And warned not to watch or listen to conspiracy theories... I do not believe David gave me mental health and I was treated very badly in hospital... has anyone else had what I call an "awakening" as that's what it felt like to me not mental health but information I was given whilst unwell was immense I can assure you I'm well and now on medication as they want me on medication.... But can't help but think anyone who talks out gets stuffed up the ass.... Branded ill.... I worked for the NHS for 10 years and had a good knowledge of mental health... Had anyone been through similar experience? 

[TetraG]

4 hours ago, Nikki said:

has anyone else had what I call an "awakening"

 

4 hours ago, Nikki said:

but information I was given whilst unwell was immense I can assure you

 

Hiiii, no, I haven't been through what you have except thru many years of silent or relatively non conversant thinking or not connecting directly with any "one" theorist etc..

(that said DAVID ICKE would be he as he was always the first I held in my mind the longest or suffice to say from the earliest age) 

So thereby in my story what Inhave learnt to be profoundly true is without fully monitoring ourselves AKA giving ourselves credit and caring for hearts intent or whatever to listen out for which is important, both within ourselves and within a corrupt society we can meander too much (wheresoever true for good or for bad)...

 

And til that awakening grows stronger it can be a lonely calling in so far as being out of the loop if information is not set upon or mentally fully met with so to speak and in terms of by needing an open mind not least to have the best chance of widening a glimpse of light which once holds water, broadens out, but that have always taken DI fairly seriously anyway even outsise of direct full level of knowledge. 

 

Whilstever so (as I WAS), quite easy you might think to be distant from all topics DI, if not in direct contact with it, but actually it can & would lurk in the back of my mind the beguiling nature of people on this earth and in power, or the mechanisms of modern slime in other words= cunning politicians + cunning businessmen!!... 

 

Anyway what I'm saying is anyone may be able live a life without this mostly uninformed but is that 100% shrewd, well no not really shrewd to switch off from it all permanently (unless not feeling quite yourself as you were Nikki in which case take a disciplined break would be my advice to anyone) so otherwise good to pay attention if truth is to manifest consistently &  with confidence by someone outspoken as DI does all the time.. relayed onto us.  

PS, I know 'truth' can be subjective but we all need a basic or common truth /(OR even an uncommon truth) in our lives *at least* for integrity to shine forth!! 

 

Well fed up of prevaricating with myself and the world I came fully around eventually to looking more directly at things  - no longer living the mostly out of range modality of living, or AKA a life subverting away from focus or offbeat feeling or lacking clarity of depth knowledge, all which potentially I could have gained sooner but became a bit ignorant of..

 

But isn't it right when we take moments to ponder, on approaching DI subjects, (or other theorists with factoids to offer us) if we look candidly we can start to ask~~ well what if we knew more intimately stuff lay before us sooner, it might have been beneficial<* OR STILL CAN BE *^ to us all and not just as individuals as if our kind are just some side show freak show.... (which we ARE NOT of course)....but as a widening pitch for humanity as a whole in a serious bid to breakdown the mainstream rubbish!! 

 

So....(going back to my history a second) I'm saying without direct affectation or access to knowledge of some kind that back of the mind stuff gets to be pretty non- determinate like dust gathering, much just that until I acted more decisively and so more recently like in 2021 until then for me hit the deck, I was more like cruising and a bit fearful of what to do.. Where I would only sort of from a distance semi consider this or that occasionally and trying to imagine all what it entailed this conspiracy stuff, but deep down I still had an inkling of its ramifications in hoping to build a better society to a place in time  where we are no longer subservient to the matrix-web-of-deceit, where only sub-real superficial nothingness can exist...

And that alas has become oh so real today.  

 

 

... So winding forward all the way now ((for ages remember I was as if in information deficit and limbo of uncertainty about what various stuff means or could potentially mean at least once I allowed myself to find out more)) so for me I spent too long unfortunately with the question when would I in fact come onto spending more time with Icke stuff, and of course no time is more decisive than now times to be aware of his stuff and make closer ties with it, rather than just accepting to live in the shadow of a shambolic system here or abroad.

 

Anyway thanks for sharing your experience and glad you are well now Nikki  but what is what I have quoted regarding  "immense information".. ??? ...  Information found out about the inner workings of the system or more focused purely on mental health and whatever resources you may or may not have found useful, either way??? 

Edited May 5, 2021 by TetraG

[Nikki]

I have followed David a while and don't intend to not listen to him... But you give a detailed description of your experiences which has enlightened slightly.. I do think that dust gathered is what happened and my brain couldn't cope with it and sort of crashed but as this happened I had lots of information given to me.... on everything going back as far as time and things I checked out were actually truth.. Backing up what was going on in my brain... I always find David icke useful and his resources have always been accurately reported on as factually as possible... such an intellect I couldn't ignore... I appreciate your time to reply back. Thanks  

[TetraG]

DI has probably out lasted many a politician. So thats another reason to listen to him than not (also). Haha. 

 

Nikki,  you're welcome! =)

 

And now where does the bottle spin??... Not to become too random,  haha,  but where would you say you are you focusing or heading for generally now? If the answer is in researching with whoever to assist any new goal, cool by itself... (perhaps reflected in why you've posted in research assistance??) 

Just wondering seeing as your enthusiasm appears undiminished, will you be focused upon infos as much as to focus on the mental health realm of things?.. Depends how long you've been out of 'psych ward'  I suppose.. (I guess I'm ok using that phrase? Although don't much like using it)

 

Anyhoo...  The answer I would give is I would put mental health first, and if your ship os sailing constant without too much of a flutter, then this means you're good I guess to reshape/reinvent how you cope and keep going with whatver keeps you afloat and positive by some measure. (even tracking your own habits if you feel that is necessary. I don't know, just a suggestion)   

 

I guess it doesn't matter too greatly which forum catagory you posted on... Important thing is you feel better yes?.

 

How sooner'er or later'er could you let go of medication if you haven't done so already? 

 

Were you at all compelled to take strong meds? I hate all medication I do. ALL A PART OF the "modern  hoo har." as far as I'm concerned which I turn my nose up at but maybe you had little choice??   

 

Hope not dangled in front of you but if so hope you had at least some say if that were strongly put forward by Medics?  

 

 

[Ethel]

I'm a little hazy on how it's possible for someone to be sectioned against their will, unless there is solid, incontrovertible evidence that they are a danger either to themselves or others. I have had concerns about this myself, of being sectioned against my will. I am glad to have left these concerns behind me; silence is the best way to deal with these kind of people.

 

Our mental health system is utterly useless. It's worse than useless. Their number one objective is to medicate, which is actually the worst thing you can do for a person with depression and/or anxiety, unless it's very temporary, to give them brief relief. I would trust a psychiatrist with my mental health like I'd trust Colonel Sanders to babysit my pet chickens. These motherfuckers are cancer to the sprit, some of the worst human beings I have ever met in my life were psychiatrists.

 

What people with so-called 'mental health problems' need is to be given compassion and empathy. They need to be listened to without judgement and to be given another human being's time and energy, which is often something they have not had.

 

As an aside, if they had you committed against your will, you could consider legal action.

Edited May 5, 2021 by Ethel

[TetraG]

2 hours ago, Ethel said:

 

What people with so-called 'mental health problems' need is to be given compassion and empathy.

They need to be listened to without judgement and to be given another human being's time and energy, which is often something they have not had

 

Agreed. 

[Nikki]

10 hours ago, TetraG said:

DI has probably out lasted many a politician. So thats another reason to listen to him than not (also). Haha. 

 

Nikki,  you're welcome! =)

 

And now where does the bottle spin??... Not to become too random,  haha,  but where would you say you are you focusing or heading for generally now? If the answer is in researching with whoever to assist any new goal, cool by itself... (perhaps reflected in why you've posted in research assistance??) 

Just wondering seeing as your enthusiasm appears undiminished, will you be focused upon infos as much as to focus on the mental health realm of things?.. Depends how long you've been out of 'psych ward'  I suppose.. (I guess I'm ok using that phrase? Although don't much like using it)

 

Anyhoo...  The answer I would give is I would put mental health first, and if your ship os sailing constant without too much of a flutter, then this means you're good I guess to reshape/reinvent how you cope and keep going with whatver keeps you afloat and positive by some measure. (even tracking your own habits if you feel that is necessary. I don't know, just a suggestion)   

 

I guess it doesn't matter too greatly which forum catagory you posted on... Important thing is you feel better yes?.

 

How sooner'er or later'er could you let go of medication if you haven't done so already? 

 

Were you at all compelled to take strong meds? I hate all medication I do. ALL A PART OF the "modern  hoo har." as far as I'm concerned which I turn my nose up at but maybe you had little choice??   

 

Hope not dangled in front of you but if so hope you had at least some say if that were strongly put forward by Medics?  

 

 

I didn't have a choice regarding medication... I was told if I don't take it they would inject me... They can tell if I take it by all the blood tests I keep getting sent for... I have been well since August last year... Can't wait to be rid of meds which I believe is end of May this year.... I intend to keep my research going around covid and reporting on findings... I posted under research and assistance because that was to blame for my "mental health breakdown".... I wondered if anyone has been through it... But looks like the enlightenment I gained from mental health is a gift... Seldom experienced because of research... I know how this corrupt world works as I worked for government for years I was told things no one would believe... Then the extra research I did backed up everything else and told me where we are headed... It done my head in thinking about how many peoples lives would be ruined... During this pandemic.... Or plandemic... I keep busy and focused to keep everything in check.... But also can't shake what I was told when I was "ill"... All the information I was given.... Things I wouldn't know and couldn't know... It's almost how DI explains how he heard voices etc.... Which started him on his journey to reveal things.... I do love a bit of DI though... .... And using the psych ward phrase isn't a problem... Although I hate that expression too...  Thanks for your response... ☺ 

[Nikki]

9 hours ago, Ethel said:

I'm a little hazy on how it's possible for someone to be sectioned against their will, unless there is solid, incontrovertible evidence that they are a danger either to themselves or others. I have had concerns about this myself, of being sectioned against my will. I am glad to have left these concerns behind me; silence is the best way to deal with these kind of people.

 

Our mental health system is utterly useless. It's worse than useless. Their number one objective is to medicate, which is actually the worst thing you can do for a person with depression and/or anxiety, unless it's very temporary, to give them brief relief. I would trust a psychiatrist with my mental health like I'd trust Colonel Sanders to babysit my pet chickens. These motherfuckers are cancer to the sprit, some of the worst human beings I have ever met in my life were psychiatrists.

 

What people with so-called 'mental health problems' need is to be given compassion and empathy. They need to be listened to without judgement and to be given another human being's time and energy, which is often something they have not had.

 

As an aside, if they had you committed against your will, you could consider legal action.

I can't thankyou enough for the reply.... I was held against my will... Not listened to which increased anxiety and made me worse... I wasn't a danger to myself or anyone else... I made a formal complaint about being held against my will and was released shortly following that complaint...  

[Grumpy Owl]

On 5/5/2021 at 5:46 AM, Nikki said:

I was deemed mentally unwell and sent to a phsych ward.... On leaving they told me that watching David icke has caused my mental health problems... And warned not to watch or listen to conspiracy theories... I do not believe David gave me mental health and I was treated very badly in hospital...

 

There is nothing wrong with you, apart from having the ability to think critically and for yourself.

 

The problem is with the system - this is what we can all expect: anyone who dares to think differently and doesn't believe/follow the 'official narrative' will just be tarred with the "mentally ill" brush.

[TetraG]

1 hour ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

There is nothing wrong with you, apart from having the ability to think critically and for yourself.

 

The problem is with the system - this is what we can all expect: anyone who dares to think differently and doesn't believe/follow the 'official narrative' will just be tarred with the "mentally ill" brush.

 

TOTALLY AGREED^^^

 

BINGO,  BALL OUT OF THE PARK... AUTHORITY BANG TO RITES!!! 

 

'They' are either beguiling, ridiculing (eg, disbelieving, closed minded, capricious by them onto you, etc) or condemning you blatantly (USUALLY BACKHANDED RHETORIC) and all because you/we are different and can see thru their BS like a light cutting thru a shadow~~~ and in general so!..  is my mostly (and gladly) out of the loop impression even if I sound a little impertinent or bitter... Okay quite a lot bitter.... And to my own persuasion their unwholistic approach often also pentetrating deep into the establishment (official line superciliousness twatology) thats what we mentalhealth users are led into AND OUT of the circus being told..

 

Instantaneous Example by which I think the narrative REALLY *INTENDS* TO BE PLAY OUT, ALONG ALSO WITH YOU THE PATIENT BEING PLAYED>>...

 

>>> Evisage for example my theatric only (REALLY?) End of Crap Service Script *as I see it* >>>

 

"Goodbye outpatient, hope you can now serve time in painfully at odds hate filled society,, woefully and inadequately unsupported by the longer term with abrupt cut-off worse off or less, and without appropiate help given in the first place!!! .. Farewell you statistic of the system that we are unfortuitously are not at all recognizing as a person,, let alone respecting the personal beliefs of_goodbye_bon voyage"

 

My defamation on them broadly by which so called "mental adjudicators" in AUTHORITY with emphasis on WE(they) KNOW BEST is from I can tell all what it is good for...

 

Most Minimaist Time given as possible. Quick Fix BS all the way. GRRRRRRRR. 

 

*Best *for *Whom is the --Life Sustaining-- or --Life Slooooow Killing-- question. 

 

They want the general public to think it appears they "deliver" (pffffft) but in actual truth its very much the opposite,  especially when given poor respect for anyone anti medication of certain kinds. 

 

They don't mind if you are left out in the wilds. But they would rather bio manipulate you first. 

Edited May 8, 2021 by TetraG
Edit just for reverb.

[TetraG]

On 5/6/2021 at 7:40 AM, Nikki said:

.. Not listened to which increased anxiety and made me worse... I wasn't a danger to myself or anyone else... I made a formal complaint about being held against my will and was released shortly following that complaint...  

 

I read this as you posted it but life takes over... Errr kinda. 

 

 

 

And btw, not to say random or excessive researching produces the most **IN THE MOMENT sane outcomes** always, BUUUUT it can like on this forum when we collectively share information, broadening the window/ opening the way for a more longer term healthier, people FOR US ALL in conscientious sanity when considering the over arching points of existence or foulplay by mankinds' interference in that otherwise natural & peaceful existence ... 

 

But not saying you should keep at the shallow end of things at all ((unless by self imposed moderation where greater are health considerations foremost in mind, and not least also its effects upon your physical too when the mind is inundated or whatever!)) ...

 

Else, if care needs to go slow, this biding your time a little is just for in the meantime whilst you are still finding your feet again and maintaining good structure of flow in your life for restoring any gaps in your WHOLISTIC health assuming thats what anybody could want more of, right, so may I suggest take it easy and just BE,,,,,  when even mindfulness  can occasionally get to feel too much effort (but sometimes thats the pay off too, mindfulness is not necessarily easy), and its effects of say~;; typical over thinking~;; for example may depend which mindfulness techniques you may personally be using etc ....

 

All in all then do what you like to do even when it is an effort but quit for a LEVEL HEADED BREAK (*regular if required like a sweet self intervention*)  when OR BEFORE it (*maybe an OCD thing* which can occur in me)..

 

Not to suggest you are unbalanced as of anytime in particular as I don't know you, but I TRUST you are not in any way mad....  

 

In any light, in order to offer open minded comment, this is part why I use the general term "level headed" OR "level headed self assessment"... to help heed consciousness by keeping reasonable control of any over-anxious-compulsion... This should all help avoid stuff becoming too overkill or a slog or a "marathon"...

 

So, without overwhleming yourself (probably every resarcher in history has done it) or causing un-necessary harsh self judgement etc! 

 

 

 

Anyway... End of May your medication will cease, bloody good also... Take care... Seeya posting again sometime!  

Edited May 8, 2021 by TetraG

[Diesel]

Hi Nikki I have also suffered mental health issues and there were plenty of conspiracy theorists and protestors locked up in hospital, not to mention religious and spiritual people too. I had a friend in there that believed the voices were messages from god and bipolar people were more in tune with god. He saw his mental illness as a gift and in past centuries he would have been listened too.

 

The only difference between people in hospital and the outside is there thoughts aren't regulated and judged.

Edited May 8, 2021 by Diesel

[andy1033]

4 minutes ago, Diesel said:

Hi Nikki I have also suffered mental health issues and there were plenty of conspiracy theorists and protestors locked up in hospital, not to mention religious and spiritual people too. I had a friend in there that believed the voices were messages from god and bipolar people were more in tune with god. He saw his mental illness as a gift and in past centuries he would have been listened too.

 

 

You should see what they tried to do to me.

 

I used to have one of the major shrinks to come round and visit me in london.

 

They had this weird thing about trying to get me to go with a female. Just because i did not want it, they really wanted me to be put into hospital.

 

They claim that if i did ever go with a female like they wanted, they would leave my life.

 

Absolutely crazy, imagine if your a male, and just the fact that i would not go with any female, at that time back in 2002 or so i think it was, they wanted to put me into a hospital in london.

 

I have no choice in my own life.

 

They claimed they would of let me live my life, if i ever had sex with a female. (i am totally asexual)

 

Absolutely weird stuff they were doing to my life, and they would never allow me to just live my life.

 

Just because i would not go with a female in my life, they for some reason just will never get out of my life.

 

Its madness, but once they get into your life, you cannot get them out.

 

Just saying this, as its never left my life, and i was very fortunate back then in london they did not put me in hospital, as i would not talk to the female they wanted.

 

What the feck is that about?

 

They have no idea what an aseuxal is. They have absolutely ruined my life, and its mainly because i never had sex with a female. Its totally absurd how they would not let me live my own life.

 

They literally brought in girls to talk to me, lol back then in 2002-2004. I can say more, but will not, as its so weird, people will find it too weird.

 

They would ask, who do you want to come and see you, just tell us.

^^

crazy

 

I would not do what they want, and back then because i refused to go with females, they wanted to put me into a hospital in london. If i remember, that was probably 2002, or 2003.

 

It just was so crazy, back then.

 

Glad i do not live in uk anymore.

 

I am writing this, to show how weird this stuff is, and how they will never leave my life.

[Nikki]

Thankyou all its lovely to have feedback... Support... And understanding and taking time to reply to me.... Time is the most precious gift you can give  

 

[TetraG]

Hi Nilki, hope all is well...

Good to see you pop back. 

 

Hope my posts were not assumed excessively  negative where speaking of the system is conerned but I am one who is generally bitter when its at odds to know sometimes whether things are happening for the better or worse within the system or maybe parts of the system or so it would be on the face of things especially where our rites get blurry for example or if we get jilted by the system claiming it succeeded where it did not etc.

 

I mean quite simply whilst I know a fair amount about my own mental health,  thats different than claiming I have great insights about the system to offer, so unless data (-like a mental health diary or personal journal just as example-) of direct experiences is somehow made available or others tell in private (or semi- publicly) and help collectively share each persons experiences, its difficult to get a proper look into life within the system. So I sometimes substitute that with bitterness, by you know not receiving  any help basicly. Sorry if what I wrote before this came across too negative anyway. 

 

When i said me being "out of the loop", thats just a way of saying out of the system for me since I'm almost never in it..

 

Anyhow, whatever our own experiences viewing from whatever angle, what matters is looking ahead to the future and not letting bad moments linger more than necesaary.. 

Although obviously mental health is important to revisit every so often according to individual needs, so long as we don't purely focus on the past in self perpetuating regret or bitterness. 

 

Stay positive, and talk to like minded people if like me you don't do enough of that? Well I don't have swarms of friends but slowly friends may come around if any person struggles without during a mental health crisis, but howabout you, are friends of yours already helping support you?...

 

Failing real world social points of contact us lot on DI or elsewhere on the web maybe can help... (don't know if that is an issue or not, just putting it out there) 

 

And yeah giving time is a most precious gift, you're right. 

 

Edited May 18, 2021 by TetraG

[ManOfOdin]

As an Autistic Man I like this thread. Yes I have found that when I am around people who are caring and accepting I do way better. The problem is with the system here in America it is mostly for profit.

 

People who are caring are told they by the system, either have a family and get a job were they will care for others with limited resources and little pay and will never have enough money to settle down.  

 

I actually have a person in charge of me who I am convinced has Borderline Personality Disorder. She goes from loving me like her own son to hating me like the devil in a course of a week sometimes.

 

All I want is a stable job and in my spare time to socialize with people on my terms (I am a rare Autistic Extrovert), make art, and have a job I actually feel isn't demeaning to me.

 

I would like to have a spose and some adopted children and settle down.

 

But instead I humiliated over and again and Gaslighted about everything.

[ManOfOdin]

On 5/8/2021 at 3:57 PM, andy1033 said:

 

You should see what they tried to do to me.

 

I used to have one of the major shrinks to come round and visit me in london.

 

They had this weird thing about trying to get me to go with a female. Just because i did not want it, they really wanted me to be put into hospital.

 

They claim that if i did ever go with a female like they wanted, they would leave my life.

 

Absolutely crazy, imagine if your a male, and just the fact that i would not go with any female, at that time back in 2002 or so i think it was, they wanted to put me into a hospital in london.

 

I have no choice in my own life.

 

They claimed they would of let me live my life, if i ever had sex with a female. (i am totally asexual)

 

Absolutely weird stuff they were doing to my life, and they would never allow me to just live my life.

 

Just because i would not go with a female in my life, they for some reason just will never get out of my life.

 

Its madness, but once they get into your life, you cannot get them out.

 

Just saying this, as its never left my life, and i was very fortunate back then in london they did not put me in hospital, as i would not talk to the female they wanted.

 

What the feck is that about?

 

They have no idea what an aseuxal is. They have absolutely ruined my life, and its mainly because i never had sex with a female. Its totally absurd how they would not let me live my own life.

 

They literally brought in girls to talk to me, lol back then in 2002-2004. I can say more, but will not, as its so weird, people will find it too weird.

 

They would ask, who do you want to come and see you, just tell us.

^^

crazy

 

I would not do what they want, and back then because i refused to go with females, they wanted to put me into a hospital in london. If i remember, that was probably 2002, or 2003.

 

It just was so crazy, back then.

 

Glad i do not live in uk anymore.

 

I am writing this, to show how weird this stuff is, and how they will never leave my life.

Aceophobic Doctor? Here you can sue doctors for that kind of stuff?

[Truthspoon]

On 5/8/2021 at 11:57 PM, andy1033 said:

 

You should see what they tried to do to me.

 

I used to have one of the major shrinks to come round and visit me in london.

 

They had this weird thing about trying to get me to go with a female. Just because i did not want it, they really wanted me to be put into hospital.

 

They claim that if i did ever go with a female like they wanted, they would leave my life.

 

Absolutely crazy, imagine if your a male, and just the fact that i would not go with any female, at that time back in 2002 or so i think it was, they wanted to put me into a hospital in london.

 

I have no choice in my own life.

 

They claimed they would of let me live my life, if i ever had sex with a female. (i am totally asexual)

 

Absolutely weird stuff they were doing to my life, and they would never allow me to just live my life.

 

Just because i would not go with a female in my life, they for some reason just will never get out of my life.

 

Its madness, but once they get into your life, you cannot get them out.

 

Just saying this, as its never left my life, and i was very fortunate back then in london they did not put me in hospital, as i would not talk to the female they wanted.

 

What the feck is that about?

 

They have no idea what an aseuxal is. They have absolutely ruined my life, and its mainly because i never had sex with a female. Its totally absurd how they would not let me live my own life.

 

They literally brought in girls to talk to me, lol back then in 2002-2004. I can say more, but will not, as its so weird, people will find it too weird.

 

They would ask, who do you want to come and see you, just tell us.

^^

crazy

 

I would not do what they want, and back then because i refused to go with females, they wanted to put me into a hospital in london. If i remember, that was probably 2002, or 2003.

 

It just was so crazy, back then.

 

Glad i do not live in uk anymore.

 

I am writing this, to show how weird this stuff is, and how they will never leave my life.

 

 

Thankyou for your totally frank and honest experiences.

 

I will say, and perhaps I shouldn't, but having sex is highly beneficial in reducing schizo-affective and psychotic symptoms. Not saying you suffer from these, just saying it's what I've learned for myself and understood from occult practice. Also from a young man who was enrolled in an Illuminati High School in America:

 

https://www.truthspoon.com/p/disclaimer-please-find-here-information.html

 

Quote

At Uni High, we had a ritual, just the boys, for the Freshmen, in which there was a darkened hallway, and there was a torch. And we were told that "this represents the torch of the Enlightenment and we are carrying the torch to the next generation" sort of ritualistic claptrap. And the gist of the message was the following: all boys needed to lose their virginity as soon as possible and this was priority 1, and that lack of sex would cause schizophrenia, and that this was called Oral History because it was forbidden to write this knowledge down, and then we were forced to swear an oath to say something like "I swear to keep this information secret and I swear that I shall kill anyone who dares reveal it."

My understanding is: that each person has an "energy level" which could also be called libido level (as energy is primarily expressed as libido---which is the sex drive, but also the general power source for motivation and intellectual pursuits). And that this libido level is crucial to a person's success in life. We were told that all the world's most successful people lost their virginity at a very young age--like 13 or so. Sort of as an aside---I actually had sex at my high school at age 13 in this weird basement room (which perhaps I'll ramble more about later).

 

The Illuminati and occult group regularly engage in sex because it fends off mental illness.

 

So maybe the advice was good......... still.... it's not always easy or desirable to instantly hook up with someone. Not my style anyway and I wouldn't recommend it..... but sex can be good for your mind if you are not quite in a full position of mental and bio-chemical strength.

 

 

Edited June 15, 2021 by Truthspoon

[TetraG]

 Good post Truthspoon for the response to Andy1033  ...and I read his post too (Pretty Frank Indeed, fine as it was expressed, but was not desirable for him as an asexual). 

 

Albeit with you TS moving in a different direction than Andy1033's, your account now of somebody coming forward with ex-illuminati(?) testimony sexually, and thereby experience of that cult. (NOT YOU l PERSONALLY I UNDERSTAND since your occultist experience TS was OUTSIDE of illuminati reaches I think I read correctly??... So this account was only about younger males per the sect or as a one sex division of the sect until actual sex was performed presumably by those males with the opposite sex as a sort of life lesson for them?...  anyway one of said BOYS *that, no more*, you gained info from somehow... ) 

 

Now= I suppose okay... 

From TruthSpoons website,, which seems permissable to post since you link it TS...  

(and only about this being the disclaimer part in bold from your site, so no problem I spose...  

Well, its a wise disclaimer IMO) 

 

It goes:

 

I personally cannot vouch for the accuracy of this information and as the writer himself suspects, some of this is likely deliberately intended to mislead the Illuminati member, after all, you can’t mind control people with the truth. 

You as the reader must decide for yourself whether you think the following story is true, I merely print it here as a curiosity and something to consider.

//End TS Disclaimer quote//

 

 

Sooo slightly kidding in my delivery admittedly.. However}}

 

Mental health has become a whole lot brighter albeit illuminati style.. But which too then makes it darker or occultist.. or something not, so, sexy, although those said to be partaking might be too hooked on sex induced seratonin & endorphin as to forget reality hence making sex actually enjoyable?  Unheard of!!!!! Lol...

 

Seriously, probably as the report of the laddeth suggests that is the plan actually=== The illusion being though that sex is not really quite the answer to EVERYTHING as such. It may hold the key in a bio chemical way and include improved cognition but is not the actual answer to all knowledge or power just by this stimulation of libido... Coz think, it be like a novice taking a flutter at casual gambling. It doesn't make you a gambling expert at winning high stakes to gamble a one off... Oh I get it, its ongoing for the joyfully afflicted as it were and sex addicted then?? Still, some problems there I'd say. 

 

 

Anyway looks like the idea sets out to be to rejoin it after the deed... (to resume feigned reality or illuminati entrepeneurship post losing virginity) with a mind less stressed, unhindered & not so inhibited but from a too young an age. 

 

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Suffice to say, not sure we have that in the UK.

 

Imagine that on the NHS!?!? 

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Trying to be serious again now... 

 

From a french perspective of illuminati, are these sex rituals or rites of passage in this particular way unique to this country's clique, over in my europe do we know?  Don't worry I am not host, looool. 

 

I doubt its unique, but I think germany has an illuminati, that could be altogether different

?? Hey is all illuminati made up in such a way I guess I wonder. Certainly in America, who would have thought. Lol. 

 

but errr, meanwhile it could be the french have their own loose interpretation of the illuminati code? (haha, god bless the strange ways of ascension, ahem, or not)

 

 

God forbid when "AI" conjoins with sex simulated participants of devil worshipping sex... Then we are all doomed. 

[Truthspoon]

Some of the things the Illuminati member is told are definitely not true.

 

The guy himself who posted that on my forum also says he believes not everything he was told is true.

 

I definitely believe that sexual activity can inhibit the development of schizophrenia however, and it might make sense, that a health care practitioner might use loss of sexual desire as a diagnostic that you are mentally unwell and may be trying to encourage sexual activity for therapeutic reasons.

 

 

 

Edited June 17, 2021 by Truthspoon

[TetraG]

Out of *likes*, but noted the stuff the person involved heard through their manipulators and knew somehow it would be artifice used or a feeling of being preyed upon. 

 

In more wholesome settings however in more ordinary (but special) relationships to help mental stability it could make sense if with a trusted partner not to rule out sex with mental health, in mind. I just wouldn't suggest people count on it as the only thing to help is all. Not that I am an expert on sex. 

[Moonlight]

6 hours ago, Truthspoon said:

Some of the things the Illuminati member is told are definitely not true.

 

The guy himself who posted that on my forum also says he believes not everything he was told is true.

 

I definitely believe that sexual activity can inhibit the development of schizophrenia however, and it might make sense, that a health care practitioner might use loss of sexual desire as a diagnostic that you are mentally unwell and may be trying to encourage sexual activity for therapeutic reasons.

 

 

 

 

well, to me who sleeps with the guys on first dates, I can say sex is important
but
I go now more for love than for sex - cause you can always have sex - but you can not always have love

[Macnamara]

Learning about this stuff is a real shock to the psyche

 

When you first become aware of the extent of the conspiracy and about how heinous it is the desire to do something to save the world wells up and you want to shout it from the roof tops. Unfortunately because not everyone is in the same mindspace that usually leads to the person being alienated by those around them that can't understand what the person is saying or going through so the process can be very isolating

 

The other problem is that even if a person then launches themself into a transformation of their own life to try and peacefully 'be the change they want to see in the world' they can easily become disheartened that in the macro things remain unchanged.

 

Its at that point that you realise that we are in a marathon not a sprint and that change more than likely will not happen at the speed that you would like it to happen. This then means that you have to guard your mental health for the long haul because even though your frequency is changing and you feel yourself vibrating and falling out of synche with those around you, you still have to operate within clownworld to make a living and continue usual family life and social life. In the day-to-day you have to continue interacting with people in a way that doesn't unsettle them and that means not blurting out 'the illuminati are trying to kill us!' at every opportunity.

 

It can be hard with that desire to share your revelation welling up inside you to continue existing around other people who are going about their business oblivious to the wider picture. It is an alienating process. This is why we need to build a parallel system and economy and start building connection with likeminded people. Also it means that as an individual you have to guard your mental health from one day to the next. I have found myself leaning towards humour as a way to cope with clownworld.

 

When i get home from work i watch one of Benny Will's 'meme monday' clips to keep me in a positive mindspace. Gareth and Richard's 'WTAF' series on david's headlines section is also good for a laugh and some sanity. A forum member has also been sharing video clips of a guy in Norway 'Bjorn Bull-Hansen' who is a fan of the viking era just sitting out in the woods sharing his thoughts on the world and they are just very simple and measured clips that remind you that not everyone is caught up in the covid spell.

 

So yeah nowadays my time is not all spent trying to learn about what is going on. Nowadays a lot of my time is spent guarding my wellbeing and part of that is knowing that you are not alone and that you are a sane person and that it is the world around you that is insane because the crazier clownworld becomes the more psychological pressure it will exert on people as it creates a cognitive dissonance polarity between how they tell you reality is versus how you innately understand reality to be

Edited June 18, 2021 by Macnamara

[TetraG]

***** 5star post Macnamara!!  Or 10 star ********** if that a difference of odds!! 

[TetraG]

2 hours ago, Macnamara said:

In the day-to-day you have to continue interacting with people in a way that doesn't unsettle them and that means not blurting out 'the illuminati are trying to kill us!' at every opportunity.

 

 

Dear Illuminati... Verses righteous public conscience. 

The roof tops are either not high enough or too high... 

 

So we say~ I will settle for the tree tops to comfort our spirit. 

 

(a little Humor, A LOT of Truth) 

 

 

But yes, we can unsettle people even as the messenger... (sometimes to good effect dare I suggest BUT in the the right moment of course, in short=  smart, as well as humble with great wisdom up our sleeves when ready to rollout like a Bruce Lee strike from nowhere, LOL or a Viking Peace Vigil), so I'm not saying I like self suppression AT ALL but there are some instances where surely you're right Macnamara and thats best considered where a little *self-preservation* doesn't go amiss!! (as much as we want to help others too in some cleverly adapted ways and sometimes dead simple subtle ways...like a thousand duplicate Mr Blair human size zombie dolls cast out into the public, as a humiliated representation of him stood naked, marked with doll tattoos saying, "PUBLIC GALLERY unvetted war 'vet', with meet and greet taster session... Come come!!" written on him, & 2 punch lines..."I eat as you all go hungry!" +++ "Kingdom Come up yer bum in the zombie slum" ... ) 

Edited June 18, 2021 by TetraG