Everything David says is spot on

[matreshka]

On 5/18/2021 at 12:53 PM, Thoth001 said:

I started reading David Icke's books in 2008. It literally made my whole thought process change and helped me to see outside the box. I absolutely love his work and all that he has done to share valuable information to this world. And yes, most of the time he is spot on, he really does amazing research!

I agree with you! David Icke is absolutely right!

[Thoth001]

51 minutes ago, matreshka said:

I agree with you! David Icke is absolutely right!

 

Slowly, I think many people are starting to see that.

[Thoth001]

13 hours ago, novymir said:

You "know" of the fake...you know not of The Truth. Then, you are blind and controlled by that which you "know".

 

 

If you ever read a David Icke book, you would be informed in what Jesus really is. I suggest picking up yourself a copy of "Children of the Matrix". That book helped me to break the mind control of my Christian religion, in my late 20's.

[novymir]

7 hours ago, Thoth001 said:

 

If you ever read a David Icke book, you would be informed in what Jesus really is. I suggest picking up yourself a copy of "Children of the Matrix". That book helped me to break the mind control of my Christian religion, in my late 20's.

I've read more than one of his books, I've seen several of his presentations. I am not a religionist and never really have been. You seem to have jumped to false conclusions based on certain ideas and symbolism associated with Christ that I posted here, that seems to me to be more of an indication of matrix mind-control than where I'm operating from.

What is "damage-control"? What is "throwing the baby out with the bathwater"? What is "sweeping generalization"? What is "knee-jerk reaction"?

Why? What purpose?

 

How does "the matrix" actually operate?

(Limited to)_Mathematical formulas of probability and predictability.

"Artificial intelligence" is an oxymoron.

Edited May 31, 2021 by novymir

[Thoth001]

19 hours ago, novymir said:

I've read more than one of his books, I've seen several of his presentations. I am not a religionist and never really have been. You seem to have jumped to false conclusions based on certain ideas and symbolism associated with Christ that I posted here, that seems to me to be more of an indication of matrix mind-control than where I'm operating from.

What is "damage-control"? What is "throwing the baby out with the bathwater"? What is "sweeping generalization"? What is "knee-jerk reaction"?

Why? What purpose?

 

How does "the matrix" actually operate?

(Limited to)_Mathematical formulas of probability and predictability.

"Artificial intelligence" is an oxymoron.

By your statement on the last page, it did seem like you were a Jesus freak.So sorry if I misinterpreted in what you were saying.

 

Those are all good questions you ask. I don't know how exactly the matrix operates but I can tell you what I think about it. Well, if we are conscious energy living inside a human body. It seems we have chosen to come down to this 3D world to enjoy the 5 senses in a human body. Which the 5 senses also brings pain. In coming down here or the "fall" we forget where we come from and some of us try to remember. The matrix just maybe what gives us the experience of being disconnected from Source Consciousness and we can live all these illusions on this 3D Earth plane. As if we are all in a play for soul growth and experience in one of the harder illusions of experiences.

[novymir]

On 6/1/2021 at 3:07 AM, Thoth001 said:

By your statement on the last page, it did seem like you were a Jesus freak.So sorry if I misinterpreted in what you were saying.

 

Those are all good questions you ask. I don't know how exactly the matrix operates but I can tell you what I think about it. Well, if we are conscious energy living inside a human body. It seems we have chosen to come down to this 3D world to enjoy the 5 senses in a human body. Which the 5 senses also brings pain. In coming down here or the "fall" we forget where we come from and some of us try to remember. The matrix just maybe what gives us the experience of being disconnected from Source Consciousness and we can live all these illusions on this 3D Earth plane. As if we are all in a play for soul growth and experience in one of the harder illusions of experiences.

That's a pretty image of the world you paint. A nice rationalization...justification...(...there's just a few small problems,,, with "others" doing "evil"...)

But that's all it is, the pretty image on the surface. Your gullibility isn't your fault, Innocence is your nature, unfortunately it's being exploited and abused. Even though it's not Real: it's" just an illusion"; the game is a sick one. A self-deceiving and self-abusing game(egoMatrix) attempting to achieve an immortality that can NEVER be. Like "cancer". A "progressive illness".

Disconnection from Source is MADNESS. No matter what kind of "positive" spin is put on it. But then, there's all sorts of imposters and substitutes the ego offers, including fake love/truth.

 

The Red Pill that's most hard to swallow. Therefore;  "Wide is the gate...".

I Am an associate with Jesus. Truth. Christ. Source. ONE.

 

 

https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/topic/18969-we-live-in-a-simulation-created-by-a-non-human-force-–-david-icke-dot-connector-videocast/&tab=comments#comment-270458

 

[Thoth001]

15 hours ago, novymir said:

That's a pretty image of the world you paint. A nice rationalization...justification...(...there's just a few small problems,,, with "others" doing "evil"...)

But that's all it is, the pretty image on the surface. Your gullibility isn't your fault, Innocence is your nature, unfortunately it's being exploited and abused. Even though it's not Real: it's" just an illusion"; the game is a sick one. A self-deceiving and self-abusing game(egoMatrix) attempting to achieve an immortality that can NEVER be. Like "cancer". A "progressive illness".

Disconnection from Source is MADNESS. No matter what kind of "positive" spin is put on it. But then, there's all sorts of imposters and substitutes the ego offers, including fake love/truth.

 

The Red Pill that's most hard to swallow. Therefore;  "Wide is the gate...".

I Am an associate with Jesus. Truth. Christ. Source. ONE.

 

 

https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/topic/18969-we-live-in-a-simulation-created-by-a-non-human-force-–-david-icke-dot-connector-videocast/&tab=comments#comment-270458

 

After my years of research I don't believe the entity that is portrayed in the Bible called Jesus actually existed. But the millions of people that believe in that entity sure have given energy and may have even created a being in the astral.

 

Now sure, there is negative energy and positive energy but what it boils down to is there is that force which has been called the Force of Light, which represent Unity, Service, Love, and Harmony. These forces have enjoyed movement throughout the universe for eons of time; and there have been times where the Forces of darkness gained power over the Light Force, and times where this has been reversed. the Forces of Darkness are those forces which emanate from the concept of separateness. The Forces of Light are those which emanate from the concept of Unity. the reconciliation between the Forces of Light and the Forces of Darkness is that which brings about the Clear Light, the Energy with Love and Mercy, Harmony and the acceptance of what is. 

[BillMcLaurin]

On 5/22/2021 at 10:10 AM, DougASmall said:

Do a 180deg turn about and go back to where you come from. (repent) 

No, I couldn't arsed. LOL

[AXPCalledJeff]

On 5/4/2021 at 9:27 PM, Diesel said:

The more I listen to Icke the more I agree. We are one conscience at war with each other. We have been infected by evil malevolent spirits and divided. We are at our core love, peace, happiness and forgiveness.  We are close to god. But our conscience has been hijacked, taken away. Its time to take it back. What we need is worldwide apathy, the slowing down of the world. We need a worldwide "I can't be bothered to do that" attituded. Then the system will collapse.

I would actually advice the exact opposite. Love, empathy en unification will heal the world. Either I may be misunderstanding you here or you think that acting indifferent is going to solve mankind's problems.

[EnigmaticWorld]

Love would heal the world if everyone loved, but how is that achievable? Am I supposed to love someone running at me with a knife, or somebody throwing acid in my face? Sometimes we have to be cruel to be kind for the good of humanity, and that may mean not tolerating evil.

Edited July 13, 2021 by EnigmaticWorld

[AXPCalledJeff]

1 minute ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

Love would heal the world if everyone loved, but how is that achievable? Am I supposed to love someone running at me with a knife, or someobody throwing acid in my face? Sometimes we have to be cruel to be kind for the good of humanity, and that may mean not tolerating evil.

Yes, even love people that are brainwashed with hate. Because they too once started like us. The extremist kind of folks I think you talk about here (sociopaths, psychopaths etc.) have lost their love. 

 

That being said you are right. You should never allow to become victimized by brutality or any other form of hatred for that matter. But apathy/indifference is a dead end street. Choose not cruelty, because in the end you turn into those you mentioned. Never allow hatred and brutality to enter your heart. 

[EnigmaticWorld]

7 minutes ago, AXPCalledJeff said:

Yes, even love people that are brainwashed with hate. Because they too once started like us. The extremist kind of folks I think you talk about here (sociopaths, psychopaths etc.) have lost their love. 

 

That being said you are right. You should never allow to become victimized by brutality or any other form of hatred for that matter. But apathy/indifference is a dead end street. Choose not cruelty, because in the end you turn into those you mentioned. Never allow hatred and brutality to enter your heart. 

 

Love the person, but not their sin, that's what I say. I guess people can have different opinions on what is good or bad though.

 

I do agree that love would heal the world, but with tribalism and so many different competing ideologies, it just seems like a dream.

 

Sorry for the negativity, I still respect your opinion.

[AXPCalledJeff]

25 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Love the person, but not their sin, that's what I say.

 

I completely agree with that.

 

And I your opinion of course. But we do agree here, just not what is the best course of action. I think that exactly this tribalism and competing ideologies is the toxic waste that poisons mankind. If people cannot agree to disagree, they should stay in their own land/place. If they willingly and knowingly try to hurt and even kill each other, of course a violent defence is justified. I would never put a flower in a gun from someone who is pointing it to my head while smiling.

 

But I sincerely think that most people act and react out of a sense what might happen if they don't. In other words, fear. 

[DaleP]

David says it's reptilians who are behind of it all but does he mention anything about octpus?

Where does it fit in the picture?

Is our God an octpus?

 

[Elsa_80]

not everything. I know people, who are spiritually much more awakened than me, but they still don't see the whole picture and got jabbed.

[MarcusOmouse]

I well remember having a conversation with an ex of mine a long time ago, well over a decade before I read any of Davids work.

 

I told her that whilst I didn't buy any of the religious hokus pokus,  I knew that there was something more to this life than simply accidental birth followed in the relative blink of an eye by eternal death.

 

I always felt intrinsically that a creator based on love existed, yet not in the way that this force was being framed. I mean, it never ceased to amaze me back then how all these so called religious leaders worshipped the same entity and yet were encouraging their respective followers to blow each other up in the creators name  I understand that a lot bettter now ( needless to say)

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When I read Davids work and his thoughts on the whole thing, I found this to be something that I could really get on board with.

[MarcusOmouse]

The above is probably best summed up here.... The late great Bill Hicks.....Its just a ride....

 

 

[Diesel]

Not everything David says is spot on, but the gist of what he says is good.

[Origin]

David has experienced what he was ready for. That does not mean that he could put everything into the right context. This is true for all of us. Some lose all believed notions of what reality is. Because you will lose all the knowledge you have absorbed. And only then will you begin your journey. Then you will know what humans have distorted and reality itself will rearrange itself. Everybody will walk this one path at some point.