Invasion of the Vaccinated

[Scogan]

It's time to start shunning the 'vaccine hesitant.' They're blocking COVID herd immunity.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2021/04/30/require-covid-vaccine-resume-normal-life-herd-immunity-column/4886673001/

 

[CrowintheSnow]

From the above...
"When that happens, restaurants, movie theaters, gyms, barbers, airlines and Ubers should require proof of vaccination before providing their services."

 

"Businesses should make vaccination a requirement for employment."

 

"People should require friends to be vaccinated to attend the barbecues and birthday parties they host. Friends don’t let friends spread the coronavirus."

 

What people with these numbskull ideas seem to have forgotten is even the vaccinated can spread Covid. A vaccination does not prevent Covid infection  (according to the jargon anyway)
Their vaccines are only a percentage effective. What's the average? I think between 65 and 80%? None are 100%.

They call those who don't want the vax "unscientific" har bloody har.

Numerous accounts of people who got Covid even though they got vaxxed

Oh wait....was that Covid? Or was it body freaking out about DNA alteration in the "vaccine"?

I see an apartheid on its way.

[whatthefoxhat]

I also see an apatheid coming but perhaps the opposite of the one you see,it'll be the unvaxxed shunning the vaxxed the seeds are germinating now,may they blossom to a healthy revulsion for the jabbed

[Scogan]

3 hours ago, CrowintheSnow said:

 

What people with these numbskull ideas seem to have forgotten is even the vaccinated can spread Covid. A vaccination does not prevent Covid infection  (according to the jargon anyway)

 

The vaccinated are creating more transmissible variants.  These vaccines instruct cells to manufacture VIRUS SPIKE PROTEINS.  Our bodies were never designed to manufacture virus parts!  

 

COVID mutates about every 10 hours.  The vaccinated are in fact VIRUS FACTORIES, they are creating more dangerous mutations as the virus evolves past factory specifications.  

 

More dangerous variants won't be blamed on them.  They will blame it on us.  The Invasion of the Bodysnatchers has only just begun.  

 

 

[Scogan]

2 hours ago, whatthefoxhat said:

I also see an apatheid coming but perhaps the opposite of the one you see,it'll be the unvaxxed shunning the vaxxed the seeds are germinating now,may they blossom to a healthy revulsion for the jabbed

 

The entire machine is against us.  Governments, the UN, IPCC, NATO, (there is not a single government or agency on earth that is anti-COVID vaccine).  The VAXXED is their army.  Be prepared.  

[whatthefoxhat]

 

i'm  more prepared than the majority,still have my sanity and an unending supply of pitchforks and burning torches

[Mikheil]

3 hours ago, whatthefoxhat said:

 

i'm  more prepared than the majority,still have my sanity and an unending supply of pitchforks and burning torches

It's too late. You should have done that years ago

[eddy64]

its all about internal tracking, in order to get that off the ground they need you vaccinated in order to justify their coming papers please regime.

[Mikheil]

I hear on the news that the EU are planning to allow travel within Europe as long as you have AUTHENTICATED, vaccination papers OR, a vaccine passport.

 

So much for "Open Borders" and free travel in the EU.

 

Now it becomes clear why, since 2015, they have been closing minor roads which lead into the neighboring countries. They have closed DOZENS of them causing major inconvenience. We wondered why, because there was no logic at all behind their closures.

[CosmoGenesis]

1 hour ago, Mikheil said:

 

 

So much for "Open Borders" and free travel in the EU.

 

 

 

Only free travel if you're non white and you travel on a dinghy or the back of a HGV.

[Ethel]

This idea I have encountered a few times, the idea of 'shedding', and that those who have had this Covid vaccine are 'dangerous':

 

This seems fear-based, in the same way that the vaccinated people's beliefs are fear-based. If the idea is that we, the unvaccinated should "stay away" from them, or they might 'infect' us with something, then I'm sure you see the problem.

 

Division.

 

Faith has to come into the equation sooner or later; faith in God, the human body, the mind. Our bodies are miracles of nature, they can overcome quite a lot. 

 

We don't need apartheid, we don't need more division, we don't need to avoid people, and avoid hugging the people in our lives. I come from a very cold and unloving family and I can tell you that lack of closeness does not a pleasant life maketh. 

 

We need to understand the language of division. Anything which encourages the idea that we should "stay away" from those who have had the jab is coming from the same place as the belief that those who have had it should stay away from the people who haven't. This is not good. Have faith. 

 

 

Edited May 4, 2021 by Ethel
adding something

[TetraG]

I don't quite agree but good point Ethel and so I respect your faithful or just brave(?) PoV about division which ideally we could do better without= (ANY MASS DIVISION) ,

 

but in the main my FIRST INSTINCT is:- I say stay away from vaccinated, always was a germophobe anyway, so, as things go deeper with our biology being messed with as a risk to us all, the deeper the paranoia in my mind. In other words complex issues promote a paraoxysm of paranoia even when non vaxers know (even just by core moral principle only) why they refuse, and as time goes on the more we'll have credible reasons/facts, for their/my

unvaccinated standpoint.  

 

 

So I certainly differ, even if not totally outright disagree with you, yet I will still tend to be edging away from vaccinators ~at least by instinct thats whats overall best by my gut feeling (intellect AND overly emotive inputs aside a moment)...

 

But where emotions are to be factored in, I mean in one sense this may include knowing emotions only help us when we help others potentially and I get that BUT its an ENORMOUS TASK to de-indoctrinate people who have clung to naevity or banal aquiessance obeyance, & blind servitude but also important is preserving each our own humanity as we unvaccinated stand tall,  OR THE UNVACCINATED TRIBE WHO I TAKE MY HAT OFF TO, (*as much as would a religious person to their holy one!*) and show self respect for having had the foresight and intelligence to see what is transparent by the every move of the powers that be, so I would argue our vanguard reaches within ourselves as much as to the many AND the feeling we do this if I can speak for others too, WITH GREAT EMOTIONAL MOTIVATION FOR EVEN JUST OUR OWN SAFETY &  HEALTH <<< at least until we can lay down some solid plans to help others with facts at our side OR OKAY, basic spiritual heart transmission from one human being to another in the hopes general encouragment will do the trick until true realization kicks in if thats what it takes for others to GET SAVVY WITH THE APPALLING GRAVITY OF THE SITUATION & STOP BEING MANIPULATED)

 

... Nevermind, at least we both know division is not good to aim for, but then again IT IS and MAYBE FOR A LONG TIME TO COME  a tough one to reconcile by any means known at present apart from educating people...

 

And correct me if not fully correct by your way but if this is applicable of how you wish to support mankind regardless of the publics deluded self soul suicide or anything on that path trajectory, then if you're adamant you want to help all and especially if you're a person of faith as in religion as you might be saying with maybe an Oath to God or something like a call of duty to all despite the odds or uncomfortable diametric reasoning etc,  THEN THAT AIN'T EASY TO MY MIND!!...

 

(I don't know you with respect, so I wonder in which way by the word 'faith'  might you be leaning?... I might guess what the answer maybe perhaps, could it be you would then assert maybe "faith is faith" no matter our beliefs and no matter what the circumstances????... Well just in case so, fair enough I suppose, but it may take some really strong person emotionally to remain in the hearts of the vaccinated would be [is] my biggest worry by how you would wish to go at it.. Or as you seem to usher by the word God and all under the sky, and so on, but not everyone can be helped I fear) 

 

 

3 hours ago, Ethel said:

I come from a very cold and unloving family and I can tell you that lack of closeness does not a pleasant life maketh. 

 

Sorry for this cold feeling you have known... I *kinda* know what you mean myself but won't go into it here.

 

All the best. 

Edited May 4, 2021 by TetraG
I had to globe trot the globe, then resit at my mini computer. Clearly by that time, time had forgot time had forgot what time ought otherwise remember.. Haha.

[CrowintheSnow]

21 hours ago, Ethel said:

This idea I have encountered a few times, the idea of 'shedding', and that those who have had this Covid vaccine are 'dangerous':

 

This seems fear-based, in the same way that the vaccinated people's beliefs are fear-based. If the idea is that we, the unvaccinated should "stay away" from them, or they might 'infect' us with something, then I'm sure you see the problem.

 

Division.

I honestly don 't know if this is relevant or not, but I have been in pretty close contact with someone who was fully vaccinated a few weeks ago, neither of us wore masks, and I didn't catch anything that I am aware of. I have  my own health issues, but there has been nothing Covid-like.

I think it's all about an added dimension to the whole fear thing. Keep us afraid and we will welcome all sorts.

 

However.....I don't trust either the vaccine, or what might happen yet as a result of it,

Edited May 5, 2021 by CrowintheSnow
missed a bit

[Captainlove]

7 minutes ago, CrowintheSnow said:

I honestly don 't know if this is relevant or not, but I have been in pretty close contact with someone who was fully vaccinated a few weeks ago, neither of us wore masks, and I didn't catch anything that I am aware of. I have  my own health issues, but there has been nothing Covid-like.

I think it's all about an added dimension to the whole fear thing. Keep us afraid and we will welcome all sorts.

 

However.....I don't trust either the vaccine, or what might happen yet as a result of it,

Im with you, I own a shop and im in contact with vaccinated people everyday,no problems. I personally dont believe in well people spreading anything. If shredding was real and i not fully convinced it is.What i know is people who have a virus are only infectious in the first week,if you think germ theory is correct.

[CrowintheSnow]

21 hours ago, Ethel said:

Faith has to come into the equation sooner or later; faith in God, the human body, the mind. Our bodies are miracles of nature, they can overcome quite a lot. 

 

We don't need apartheid, we don't need more division, we don't need to avoid people, and avoid hugging the people in our lives. I come from a very cold and unloving family and I can tell you that lack of closeness does not a pleasant life maketh. 

It's true. Our bodies are extremely intelligent and know what to do to preserve life and heal naturally. Sometimes that means "symptoms" which is no fun while it's happening, but of we don 't freak out, and support the process with soothing herbs, sleep, hydration, rest etc, we come through okay.

It's when we get overloaded with substances/Pharma drugs that the natural balance is lost or distorted.

 

Whatever this thing is....Covid or bad flu, I don't know, that is what I did when I had it.  It wasn't even such a terrifying experience. A little bit scary a couple of times, I admit but that's just because I'm a wuss. The body did the job. And my body isn't even tip-top, and I'm old.

 

I am sorry you knew such coldness from your family. Kindest thoughts sent to you.  That must have hurt badly.

My family were not so bad. Most have died now. But I knew a lot of emotional coldness from elsewhere.

[Scogan]

1 hour ago, CrowintheSnow said:

It's true. Our bodies are extremely intelligent and know what to do to preserve life and heal naturally. Sometimes that means "symptoms" which is no fun while it's happening, but of we don 't freak out, and support the process with soothing herbs, sleep, hydration, rest etc, we come through okay.

It's when we get overloaded with substances/Pharma drugs that the natural balance is lost or distorted.

 

 

Annual flu vaccinations didn't become a thing until the big one hit in 1915 or so.  Then medical tyranny took over as they eventually developed a seasonal vaccine.  I have searched high and low to see if vaccines themselves are responsible for creating new strains of influenza.  To me that would make the most sense;

 

Each year millions of HEALTHY PEOPLE are infected with influenza vaccines, the body fights it off as it develops antibodies, and that process allows the virus to mutate into newer and deadlier strains.  Millions of healthy people are shedding influenza for about 2 weeks after vaccination.  That shedding is mutated and ushers in the next strain.  Just my opinion.  They never had annual problems with flu in the 1700s and 1800s.  That is quite remarkable during a period when medical treatment for influenza was almost non-existent.  Since 1918 there have been four flu pandemics.  

 

The coronavirus is the latest string of medical tyranny as annual vaccines will be the order of the day.

 

Medicine is good, but not always.  They are blind to the problems they create.  

 

[Ethel]

21 hours ago, TetraG said:

(I don't know you with respect, so I wonder in which way by the word 'faith'  might you be leaning?... I might guess what the answer maybe perhaps, could it be you would then assert maybe "faith is faith" no matter our beliefs and no matter what the circumstances????... Well just in case so, fair enough I suppose, but it may take some really strong person emotionally to remain in the hearts of the vaccinated would be [is] my biggest worry by how you would wish to go at it.. Or as you seem to usher by the word God and all under the sky, and so on, but not everyone can be helped I fear) 

 

I believe in a creator, an all governing force or energy. A place where science meets 'religion', in a happy place, but non anthropomorphically. Pure awareness. Can't be more specific.

[Ethel]

2 hours ago, CrowintheSnow said:

However.....I don't trust either the vaccine, or what might happen yet as a result of it,

Me neither, and I will not have it. I do not need it - 'I' am infinite awareness.

[CrowintheSnow]

4 hours ago, Scogan said:

They never had annual problems with flu in the 1700s and 1800s.  That is quite remarkable during a period when medical treatment for influenza was almost non-existent.  Since 1918 there have been four flu pandemics.  

Thst's very interesting @Scogan I had never thought to take a look at those statistics.

I have never had a flu vaccine either.

 

Plus....has anyone noticed that over the years, colds are different, and some of them linger a long time, and can feel more like a mild flu? I remember an old fashioned cold which wasn't more than a few shivers with sneezes and runny nose, and gone in a few days.

[Scogan]

13 hours ago, CrowintheSnow said:

 

Plus....has anyone noticed that over the years, colds are different, and some of them linger a long time, and can feel more like a mild flu? I remember an old fashioned cold which wasn't more than a few shivers with sneezes and runny nose, and gone in a few days.

 

GMO is also weakening our immune systems.  As is soil depletion of minerals and vitamins.  At some point "soylent-like" green chips will be needed as a universal supplement manufactured in a lab that contains a life-propping daily dose just to keep us barely functional, made of what I don't know.  

 

Vaccines weaken the herd.  I read a study awhile back anout how mankind is a product of viruses weeding out populations of their sick and weak while preserving a strong herd at the same time.  Nature's way of balance.  But here we come, arrogance suited, with a goal of prolonging everyone's life regardless of the malady or costs.  

 

We will never learn to live in balance with nature as a herd.  Just a few of us really get it.  When malady strikes and my time comes I will not bankrupt my meager estate in pursuit of another day.  I will die with dignity and my way.  Because I respect nature and it governs me as one of its creatures.  I will not insult nature by taking a self serving greedy mRNA vaccine that goes against the very fiber of my being.  The bodies of my ancestors were not bio-factories where vaccines instruct cells to manufacture virus parts.  And mine won't be either.  

[Scogan]

On 5/5/2021 at 4:24 PM, CrowintheSnow said:

 

 

Plus....has anyone noticed that over the years, colds are different, and some of them linger a long time, and can feel more like a mild flu? I remember an old fashioned cold which wasn't more than a few shivers with sneezes and runny nose, and gone in a few days.

 

 

One more thing for thought.   You ever notice how physically weak scientists are?  I mean physically weak.  Like wheelchair bound Stephen Hawking.  Food for thought... what if Mother Nature created viruses to kill off the physically weak in order to save the planet from their destructive thinking?  They created nuclear weapons for jimmny crickets sake.  

Edited May 7, 2021 by Scogan

[CrowintheSnow]

1 minute ago, Scogan said:

One more thing for thought.   You ever notice how physically weak scientists are?  I mean physically weak.

Possibly it's because they live in their heads all the time and don't give their bodies  enough attention, or get grounded often enough. Most of them wear glasses too.