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[theanonymousbear]

I was never on the bandwagon about this "virus" from day one and I'm even more against the notion of it now. With all that said, there have been people in my area who have supposedly caught the COVID virus and some of them, I know personally. There's a common symptoms of this supposed virus that has been reported by many of the people I know who caught it: Loss of taste and smell. If there is no virus (and I am not at all debating that--I don't believe there's a virus doing all the stuff this one is accused of doing), what do you think is causing this symptom?

 

Thanks in advance for reading and responding :) Peace.

[ItsTheTruthThough]

It’s hard to say for sure because it’s hard to know what exactly is really wrong with them. There are literally so many things that can cause loss of taste and smell though.

[chud]

 

Cold (‘flu’)…

 

I opened the COVID ‘mythbusters’ page of the WHO site, and I guess if grown-up and educated people took the least pain of wasting the few minutes it takes to check it, they couldn’t but realize how much it was all quickly stuffed by lazy and overpaid impostors living on subsidies without barely ever working.

 

I was to make a detailed review but it’s quite the whole thing that’s appalling from start to end with such enormities as this one : Viruses cannot travel on radio waves/mobile networks. COVID-19 is spreading in many countries that do not have 5G mobile networks… Who was DUMB enough to ever pretend that 5G waves could ‘carry’ anything ?

 

Also Most of the people who catch COVID-19 can recover and eliminate the virus from their bodies. If you catch the disease, make sure you treat your symptoms. If you have cough, fever, and difficulty breathing, seek medical care early… Well it all sounds like mere cold or ‘flu’, and if so many people recover from it like from a cold then how comes hospitals got ‘overwhelmed’ with ‘COVID patients’ and their dead bodies ?

 

Many parts are plain insulting to the reader who’s really assumed to be the most brainless idiot ever on Earth, like in TV documentaries where the regular measurement unit for a site aren’t feet or miles but the football field… Yet there isn’t a single paragraph that makes the least sense in this piece of crap and you know what ? The WHO and its executives are perfectly aware of it and they COULDN’T CARE LESS…

 

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/myth-busters#virus

 

 

[theanonymousbear]

Here's a theory I came up with as I am listening to David's latest videocast about human antennas. About 8 mins 45 secs in, he talks about the smart dust and starts the discussion about how this stuff tricks the DNA and enters the cell, and how it can be triggered at any moment to "deliver the payload". Now, I'm not sure what the "payload" is but what if one of the things stuff does is trick the body's immune system to "create" symptoms that may not exist and the people who are experiencing these symptoms are people who have been subjected to this material?

 

Just food for thought, I guess.

[theanonymousbear]

2 hours ago, chud said:

 

Cold (‘flu’)…

 

How many people pay attention to how much of a sense of taste and smell they have when they're sick with the flu anyway? Here's another idea though: What if it's a natural reaction to being sick but now amplified and blown out of proportion because a fake test says you have a fake virus, so your mind tricks the body into reacting in ways that it normally wouldn't? The mind is powerful enough to do this easily.

 

[CrowintheSnow]

I lost taste and smell many times in the past with regular bad colds (which are often "coronaviruses".)

 

With the really weird thing, whatever it's called I got last April I never did lose that. But the symptoms were massive. Guts all over the place, heart rhythm all over the place, felt like I was being choked, like a really bad asthma thing or an elephant sitting on my chest. From less than 35C temperature and feeling very very cold at 3pm to a raging fever of 38.8 by 6pm. Almost unable to walk or go upstairs. In only a few days my body weight dropped so much I was skeletal.

I've had many "flu's" over the years and some humdingers, but never anything as sudden and dramatic as that.

Edited May 1, 2021 by CrowintheSnow
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[Snail]

Cold/flu. I've completely lost my sense of taste and smell with every single cold I've had. I just can't understand how this is being sold as a unique symptom. I've often said during a cold that I could be eating out of the cat's litter box and not taste a thing, that's how total the loss is.

[CrowintheSnow]

1 minute ago, Snail said:

I just can't understand how this is being sold as a unique symptom.

No, neither can I.

 

After what I experienced I think some sort of real infection happens. I have no idea what it is, how it's activated, what sort of skullduggerry is afoot. My suspicion is that it's a deliberate release of some engineered virus from the Wuhan lab, subsidised by evil in government and dreamed up by those shady characters we know want to reduce world population, or make us see sickPharma and mad scientists as world saviours.....and make billions in the bargain.

 

Just too in-your-face-obvious to my way of thinking, that the Wuhan lab is -what....about a mile away from that wet market in Wuhan? Where some people tried to blame bats?  Evil in plain sight. They didn't even bother to disguise it.

[Snail]

8 minutes ago, CrowintheSnow said:

No, neither can I.

 

After what I experienced I think some sort of real infection happens. I have no idea what it is, how it's activated, what sort of skullduggerry is afoot. My suspicion is that it's a deliberate release of some engineered virus from the Wuhan lab, subsidised by evil in government and dreamed up by those shady characters we know want to reduce world population, or make us see sickPharma and mad scientists as world saviours.....and make billions in the bargain.

 

Just too in-your-face-obvious to my way of thinking, that the Wuhan lab is -what....about a mile away from that wet market in Wuhan? Where some people tried to blame bats?  Evil in plain sight. They didn't even bother to disguise it.

I think there was possibly something real at the start, but that it started a lot sooner than January 2020, I'd say September 2019 and it was burned out by April/may 2020. A bad flu. I say this because in September 2019 both me and a family member had an absolutely wretched cold. Way worse than a regular cold but imo not as bad as a flu. And it came suddenly. There was none of the usual "I think I'm coming down with something" feelings. I went from feeling great, to whacked with this thing instantly. The main difference was the difficulty breathing. I couldn't even walk from the bedroom to the bathroom without hanging onto the walls and gasping for air. I treated it like a normal cold/flu and inhaled hit steam to help with the breathing. The first two days were the worst, by the third day I managed to sit outside and I started to feel better. Then it cleared up completely. Although it did leave me feeling fatigued for a few weeks, I kept dozing off lol.

 

During that season, end of 2019, everywhere I went people were coughing and sick all over the place, friends and I remarked to each other how virulent it was this season. But people just got on with it like they normally would have.

 

So I do think there was something. An extra nasty cold. It had it's time, burned out. Maybe the government saw the opportunity, latched on, fabricated the pandemic element, and here we are. Although the event 201 footage suggests they did plan this also.

[CrowintheSnow]

14 minutes ago, Snail said:

in September 2019 both me and a family member had an absolutely wretched cold. Way worse than a regular cold but imo not as bad as a flu. And it came suddenly. There was none of the usual "I think I'm coming down with something" feelings. I went from feeling great, to whacked with this thing instantly. The main difference was the difficulty breathing. I couldn't even walk from the bedroom to the bathroom without hanging onto the walls and gasping for air. I treated it like a normal cold/flu and inhaled hit steam to help with the breathing. The first two days were the worst, by the third day I managed to sit outside and I started to feel better. Then it cleared up completely. Although it did leave me feeling fatigued for a few weeks, I kept dozing off lol.

The suddenness and the breathing/moving about issue sounds  like my symptoms. But I couldn't liken what happened to any cold I'd ever had in  my life. There were zero cold symptoms, no sore throat, no runny nose, blocked head etc.

 

I agree with you that whatever this is/was, it has been a way to terrify the world, to exploit humanity grossly, to make money out of fear, to exert massive control over every citizen of this planet (which I think has only just begun), to  distribute blatant lies and make people believe them,  to make everyone so happy to receive dubious stuff injected into their veins, and even smile about the terrible effects it gives them, and to not even care about long term consequences.

An one awful thing -to make everyone so happy to have freedom and even law destroyed.

[Snail]

18 minutes ago, CrowintheSnow said:

The suddenness and the breathing/moving about issue sounds  like my symptoms. But I couldn't liken what happened to any cold I'd ever had in  my life. There were zero cold symptoms, no sore throat, no runny nose, blocked head etc.

 

I agree with you that whatever this is/was, it has been a way to terrify the world, to exploit humanity grossly, to make money out of fear, to exert massive control over every citizen of this planet (which I think has only just begun), to  distribute blatant lies and make people believe them,  to make everyone so happy to receive dubious stuff injected into their veins, and even smile about the terrible effects it gives them, and to not even care about long term consequences.

An one awful thing -to make everyone so happy to have freedom and even law destroyed.

Yes what they have done is absolutely evil, no other word for it! In a genuine pandemic any benevolent government would have been encouraging boosting of the immune system, TV and adverts would have been explaining how to eat well and keep yourself healthy, get fresh air, there would have been an attempt to keep morale high. Good news would be welcomed rather than dismissed and ridiculed. Instead it's a constant stream of terror and negativity designed to create depression and anxiety which LOWER the immune system. In a genuine pandemic they would have listened to all the science, not silenced thousands of scientists and doctors, and only ever allowing one view to be heard. 

 

They have institutionalised vast swathes of the population. There are many people who, even if the governments said "that's it, it's over, everything back to normal", are never coming back from this. Those people will never have normal lives again. They have been too traumatised, and institutionalised. 

 

There is no defense or excuse for what the governments have done. They need to be held accountable and dealt with.

[theanonymousbear]

At the beginning of last March when all this was really starting to take off, I felt horribly awful, with a lot of flu-like symptoms mixed with symptoms of an upper respiratory infection. I went to my doctor and was tested for the flu but it came back negative. It was just a couple of weeks later that my state shut down. I don't know what I had. I rarely get sick as it is and if I do, it's never like it was last March. I haven't been that sick in a really long time.

 

After all this mayhem started, I felt there may be a virus but I knew it wasn't naturally created. And I also thought that perhaps I had it in March when I was sick. As things progressed (and before I discovered Icke), I began thinking the virus wasn't real and something else was going on but I never could put my finger on it. Now, I truly know something else is going on and I probably just had a really, really bad cold with a fever. I don't know though. I don't recall losing my sense of taste or smell but then again, I didn't care about eating or smelling anything at the time.

[chud]

 

I'm in the South of Europe where at this time we should have 25°C in the day already. After one more cold period we just had one week of warming-up weather but you could feel that 'SOMETHING' was behind, and today the temperature dropped by at least 10 degrees as it never stopped doing since last summer and regardless of the season, which means if you don't check a CALENDAR you can no longer tell what period of the year it is.

 

 

This plain climatic CHAOS combined with recurrent lockdowns and curfews keeping people in confined spaces AND the mandatory mask wear at work or while shopping are way enough of their own for having induced something like chronic angina in many people during the past year, not to mention the climate of terror and frustration that doesn't help relaxing and BREATHING...

 

It’s amazing for instance like the WHO in their pathetic effort to deny it actually reveal it’s all bacterial and not ‘infectious’ and even give remedies against it, I think because truth is mere common sense and evidence and whatever may be tried to blur tracks ends-up leading back to it… Yes pepper like all hot food kills bacteria, and mustard cataplasms were still prescribed to fight ‘flu’ not so long ago… ‘fire with fire’ and instead of pills to stop it you were advised to cover yourself and sweat the most as possible when having fever to actually help your body kill bacteria, which does the WHO want it or not takes the about 60°C some inner parts of our body may be when fever reaches 40°C, and the morning after you’d wake-up healed even though weakened as the process also kills needed bacteria… that’s life, and all ‘medicine’ is fraud…

 

Now about the rest what depresses me a lot is to see my fellowmen being losing their jugement and common sense by letting themselves be diverted by the most improbable or insane theories, thinkiing what if  or I'm not sure while they should stand for and stop at what THEY know for sure... Proceeding by elimination by spotting what sounds wrong of forged allows to focus on what's left at the end of the process : truth and evidence. So maybe not try to figure out how and why whatever we're told might be 'true', but just stick to what WE know is and let the media come-up with a simple and convincing demonstration to prove us they're right... if they can...

 

 

The MSM are full of such 'uninformation' and non-statements intended to busy TV channels and fill Internet pages for the public's 'entertainment' and to keep evidence and common sense from surfacing...

 

 

 

 

[Grumpy Owl]

17 hours ago, theanonymousbear said:

I went to my doctor and was tested for the flu but it came back negative.

 

This is the thing, prior to this 'pandemic', I never heard of anyone being 'tested' for the flu.

 

 

[Anti Facts Sir]

1 hour ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

This is the thing, prior to this 'pandemic', I never heard of anyone being 'tested' for the flu.

 

 

Exactly. It's a diagnosis of a common set of symptoms that present themselves in a broadly similar fashion. The flu. And there are various, numerous ways to self-treat it.

 

It doesn't cause the halting of society and a total global reset.

[chud]

 

This is from the infamously American CDC…

 

Ozone (O₃) is a colorless to blue gas with a pungent odor. Exposure to ozone may cause headaches, coughing, dry throat, shortness of breath, a heavy feeling in chest,  and fluid in the lungs. Higher levels of exposure can lead to more severe symptoms. Chronic exposure may lead to asthma.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/ozone/default.html

 

These symptoms are what I bet way more people than reported have been experiencing on a recurrent basis during the past year, more precisely since an unprecedentedly large breach in the ozone layer was observed above the North Pole in early March of 2020, which hole’s alleged ‘self-healing’ has been the subject of contradictory statements depending on the sources and to this day…

 

Ozone may be said to have a ‘pungent’ odor, we don’t smell it during heat wave ‘ozone alerts’, and if it’s created by sunrays to form an ultra-thin protective layer all around Earth, what may happen if a hole is made in this layer is that sunrays hit oxygen molecules straight in the troposphere creating hazardous ground ozone.

 

During these past months and as a relatively recent phenomenon we could also hear and read about a ‘polar vortex’ coming from the Arctic and reaching as well the North American as the European continents not just as a winter occurrence but all the year, the latest reported being the following or the even more recent one during the past days (still ongoing)…

 

https://watchers.news/2021/04/09/record-cold-invades-parts-of-europe-following-unusually-warm-weather-in-march/

 

Add to it the well documented air, water and ground pollution induced by oil drilling and its related industrial activities in the North Pole which rather than a ‘global warming’ could be the real causes of polar ice melting and blackening, add to them nitrogen production for such uses as intensive farming and turning more atmospheric oxygen into poisons, and you soon end-up suspecting that there might be something more than weather changes or a flying ‘virus’ being affecting human health.

 

What about this ‘Raynaud syndrome’ pandemic, sleep disorders or loss of recovery, what about chronic fatigue all more or less remotely connected to lack of oxygen ?... Doctors don’t need the tenth of such a clinical picture to pose firm diagnosis on a daily basis when it’s up to prescribe…

 

 

[CrowintheSnow]

On 5/2/2021 at 12:32 PM, Grumpy Owl said:

This is the thing, prior to this 'pandemic', I never heard of anyone being 'tested' for the flu.

No, neither have I.

[CrowintheSnow]

1 hour ago, chud said:

Ozone (O₃) is a colorless to blue gas with a pungent odor. Exposure to ozone may cause headaches, coughing, dry throat, shortness of breath, a heavy feeling in chest,  and fluid in the lungs. Higher levels of exposure can lead to more severe symptoms. Chronic exposure may lead to asthma.

That's interesting because it describes the symptoms I had which came on suddenly (i.e. I was fine in the morning and even collected firewood on a 2 mile walk. By 3pm I got all the above like being hit by a truck,  and by 6pm I thought I might be leaving this world.)

But I didn't smell anything unusual that day, as the smell of ozone is described. (thinking possible chemtrails.)

[chud]

 

I felt the same one night too, and I had to spend it in an armchair because I though I'd pass away if layed down... I've known that during asthma crisis as a kid but it's not the same feeling : asthma blocks the respiratory track, but in what we experienced you feel like there's 'no more air' in what you're breathing... it was last winter and in the same short period I could sometime feel like the smell of burnt plastic indoor and at night, so maybe the odor isn't perceptible outdoor but only in closed spaces, which logically are where high ozone concentrations may stay for a while...

 

I've read some similar testimonies here over what looks like altitude sickness likely aggravated by panic seizures, and altitude sickness usually doesn't occur at sea level... ozone poisonning causes fainting then death in workers exposed for too long like those cleaning tankers, so it's not a mere inconvenience...

 

If some want to buy the 'virus' myth then feel free, but it's too bad because paper masks for instance do nothing but to deepen oxygen deprivation and won't protect you from ozone... you must well breath something to stay alive...........

 

It's very unlikely for a country with such a conspiracy culture like the USA to have ventured an operation like COVID-19 without something concrete upon which to rest for credibility. Both altitude sickness and 'silent hypoxia' were reported by health practitionners themselves...

 

 

Edited May 4, 2021 by chud

[Mikheil]

Symptoms include :

 

Heart failure,

Stroke

TB

Renal failure

Gunshot wounds

Suicide,

Car or motorcycle accident

Drowning,

Poisoning,

Hemophilia

Gangrene

Cerebral hemorrhage,

Cancer . . .

and others

[chud]

 

May I add a still on topic reply in connection to general symptoms experienced these last months ?... First a quote from a site that looks reliable explaining in clear and simple words the damages caused by high ozone concentrations…

 

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Ozone is a powerful oxidant and has many industrial and consumer applications related to oxidation. This same high oxidizing potential, however, causes ozone to damage mucus and respiratory tissues in animals, and also tissues in plants, above concentrations of about 100 ppb. This makes ozone a potent respiratory hazard and pollutant near ground level.

https://www.thoughtco.com/ozone-not-all-ozone-is-good-for-earth-3443718

 

But then the article goes on to explain What Causes Ground-Level Ozone ?

 

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Ground-level ozone is caused when the sun reacts with pollutants from cars and industrial plants to form ozone at or near the surface of the earth.

 

Wrong, and it’s where propaganda starts because it’s much easier to accuse cars and the general industry both of which people hardly can do without, than space control and exploration as the fantasies of only a handful bloodthirsty and wealthy maniacs…

 

Here’s the 'raw' ozone production process as described on Wikipedia or most Science dedicated sites…

 

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Ozone in the Earth's stratosphere is created by ultraviolet light striking ordinary oxygen molecules containing two oxygen atoms (O₂), splitting them into individual oxygen atoms (atomic oxygen); the atomic oxygen then combines with unbroken O₂ to create ozone, O₃.

 

If this is how ozone is created in the stratosphere, then you don’t see why it should happen otherwise in lower layers or at ground level, and even though the Wiki article’s author admits that It is not emitted directly by car engines or by industrial operations, what’s not detailed is the process by which ground ozone would be formed by the reaction of sunlight on air containing hydrocarbons and nitrogen oxides… When a non backed-up statement like this isn’t followed by a (reference needed) mention on Wikipedia it’s most often purposely.

 

From the same page another statement I could find almost unchanged in many ozone related sources as a 'required mention'’…

 

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More research needs to be done specifically concerning which populations in urban areas are most affected by ozone, as people of color and people experiencing poverty are more affected by pollution in general,

 

This one is backed-up with a source though, yet it looks like one more ‘scientific’ strangeness let alone when followed by such a precision : even though these populations are less likely to be contributing to pollution levels… Could someone explain how and why contributing more to pollution would make you likely to be more affected by it than anyone else ?... Or is it just because these ones are ‘colored’ and poor people ?

 

A random confirmation of the ozone production process from a site promoting its use against ‘dah coronavirus’…

 

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Ozone gas is generated by electrical discharge (the breakdown of chemical compounds into their elements using electric current), in the course of which oxygen molecules are reconstructed in the form of ozone molecules.

https://phys.org/news/2021-02-ozone-effective-disinfecting-coronavirus.html

 

That’s well what I thought to have got… So if an opening is made in the stratospheric ozone layer above the Arctic and that sunrays come to hit oxygen molecules straight at tropospheric or ground levels, then ozone pollution occurs in these areas and may be carried by polar vortex, which is what those drilling for oil and launching rockets don’t want you to know…

 

 

[elongated1]

2 hours ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

Spot on! My theory includes the possibility that a weaponized smartmeter on a neighboring house could induce collateral effects.

 

I've read your theory and if EMF is the problem, theoretically one would get a relief of symptom such as shortness of breath, if you place yourself in a faraday cage?

This would be a good test to see if your theory is right.

 

How do you explain a patch of skin rash i.e. not all over.

My house receives poor 2G signal so how can 5G enter my house? I thought they don't penetrate walls so well. There is no smartmeter in the house at present.

 

I was listening to this person in Dubai and he is usually travelling in sunny country, always looking healthy and suddenly he said he had to take a day break and rest because he was having a breathing issue. Could be stress or hard work but....

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

2 hours ago, elongated1 said:

 

I've read your theory and if EMF is the problem, theoretically one would get a relief of symptom such as shortness of breath, if you place yourself in a faraday cage?

This would be a good test to see if your theory is right.

 

How do you explain a patch of skin rash i.e. not all over.

My house receives poor 2G signal so how can 5G enter my house? I thought they don't penetrate walls so well. There is no smartmeter in the house at present.

 

I was listening to this person in Dubai and he is usually travelling in sunny country, always looking healthy and suddenly he said he had to take a day break and rest because he was having a breathing issue. Could be stress or hard work but....

Interesting insights elongated1. If I may I would like to expand on how the pulsing emf waves are propagating. I have seen people put faraday cages around the meter but this only blocks the wifi signal from the outside. When the energy containing the pulsing burst of high frequency waves in the meter they are channelled into the house wiring like a big deadly octopus. All the house wiring becomes an antenna broadcasting these noxious waves. During my ordeal I found my best sleep where the house wiring was minimal. But it still felt like it was everywhere. I could almost taste it. Yes the faraday cage would neutralize this energy provided the mesh matches the frequency. Higher frequencies require tighter mesh and yes it would be an excellent testing method and protection scheme. Soft meshed silver bed canapies are sold in many venues. They are expensive but very valuable especially for the chap that travelles a lot. Its very lightweight. 5g can ride ito the home by intersecting with outside wires that penetrate the dwelling. Simply put for me I'd rather eliminate the threat completely than find ways around it. Covid is the alibi designed to remove the heat off those murdering clowns.

[DarianF]

On 4/30/2021 at 9:48 AM, theanonymousbear said:

I was never on the bandwagon about this "virus" from day one and I'm even more against the notion of it now. With all that said, there have been people in my area who have supposedly caught the COVID virus and some of them, I know personally. There's a common symptoms of this supposed virus that has been reported by many of the people I know who caught it: Loss of taste and smell. If there is no virus (and I am not at all debating that--I don't believe there's a virus doing all the stuff this one is accused of doing), what do you think is causing this symptom?

 

Thanks in advance for reading and responding :) Peace.

 

Smell and Taste Disorders

https://www.cedars-sinai.org/health-library/diseases-and-conditions/s/smell-and-taste-disorders.html

 

What’s Causing My Loss of Smell and Taste?

https://www.webmd.com/brain/ss/slideshow-causes-of-loss-of-smell-and-taste

 

They took something that always existed in the population, and through a massive worldwide media propaganda campaign, programmed your brain to attribute it to an imaginary condition called Covid - which they created.

 

Spoiler alert. It's all bullshit.

[Snail]

23 hours ago, chud said:

but in what we experienced you feel like there's 'no more air' in what you're breathing...

This is exactly what me and my family member experienced. We were breathing, but couldn't "get a breath", as though there was no air or oxygen in what we were breathing.

 

There have often been strange smells around our area, very toxic chemical like smells, but since we live rural we usually put that down to something they are spreading on the fields (which is an issue in itself, God knows what they're putting on it that smells so unhealthy and is going into the food supply), they also chemtrail this area pretty badly.

 

They subject the population to living in a toxic soup then blame us for it, call it a "new disease", penalise us even more and sell us even more toxic filth to "combat" it. I am furious.