tommydrifter Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 5 hours ago, Human10 said: Unfortunately I think they have everything under control and everything is going with a plan. 2 years pandemic, then Putin variant and so on until we will have one Goverment, no money nor anything, chip in ass and be happy... you could be right. my evolving understanding - and i am getting deeper into truth - is that the whole world is mind-controlled. i doubt that even biden is biden or putin is putin! world events begin to appear like a scripted soap opera being played out through the mass media and the alternative media. normies appear more robotic as you deprogram. the dreamworld is revealed as phoney and true reality exists one step removed. there is a fake everything and a real everything. but if i can emphasise a point: the dreamworld is not only a media presentation. human beings are programmed to serve the illuminati agenda: a normie is a programmed human being. it is all a programme. i speculate that the controllers are extraterrestrials and that the extraterrestrials created the subconscious mind for this purpose. these speculations require verification. 4 hours ago, bamboozooka said: how bad has it got to get before the light bulb switches on in a normie? the normies refuse to give up their illusions. the system rewards the normie for its conformity and so the normie lives a comfortable but superficial life. it is us woo people who end up destitute and shunned. (i have been picking apples in the country for eight hours a day like a plantation slave!) ----- re: there are nazis in the bushes! the nazis are like cockroaches in the woodwork. learn about the ratlines out of europe after world war 2, project paperclip, and so on. the illuminati continued the nazi programmes after the war. i believe there is no doubt the nazis relocated to argentina as well as hiding in plain sight. i speculate that the nazis operate a base out of antarctica and am inclined to believe tony rodrigues about ceres colony and the dark fleet. if people study nazi science you can connect dots and see that this is reasonable speculation. my feeling is the illuminati and the nazis are working together - and there is bloodline connections - but that the nazis are a separate breakaway civilisation. this is speculation, of course, and requires verification. ---- deep woo! (truth is stranger than fiction) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Human10 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 7 hours ago, tommydrifter said: you could be right. my evolving understanding - and i am getting deeper into truth - is that the whole world is mind-controlled. i doubt that even biden is biden or putin is putin! world events begin to appear like a scripted soap opera being played out through the mass media and the alternative media. normies appear more robotic as you deprogram. the dreamworld is revealed as phoney and true reality exists one step removed. there is a fake everything and a real everything. but if i can emphasise a point: the dreamworld is not only a media presentation. human beings are programmed to serve the illuminati agenda: a normie is a programmed human being. it is all a programme. i speculate that the controllers are extraterrestrials and that the extraterrestrials created the subconscious mind for this purpose. these speculations require verification. the normies refuse to give up their illusions. the system rewards the normie for its conformity and so the normie lives a comfortable but superficial life. it is us woo people who end up destitute and shunned. (i have been picking apples in the country for eight hours a day like a plantation slave!) ----- re: there are nazis in the bushes! the nazis are like cockroaches in the woodwork. learn about the ratlines out of europe after world war 2, project paperclip, and so on. the illuminati continued the nazi programmes after the war. i believe there is no doubt the nazis relocated to argentina as well as hiding in plain sight. i speculate that the nazis operate a base out of antarctica and am inclined to believe tony rodrigues about ceres colony and the dark fleet. if people study nazi science you can connect dots and see that this is reasonable speculation. my feeling is the illuminati and the nazis are working together - and there is bloodline connections - but that the nazis are a separate breakaway civilisation. this is speculation, of course, and requires verification. ---- deep woo! (truth is stranger than fiction) WOW. It would make good movie... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, tommydrifter said: learn about the ratlines out of europe after world war 2, project paperclip, and so on. the illuminati continued the nazi programmes after the war. i believe there is no doubt the nazis relocated to argentina as well as hiding in plain sight. i speculate that the nazis operate a base out of antarctica and am inclined to believe tony rodrigues about ceres colony and the dark fleet. if people study nazi science you can connect dots and see that this is reasonable speculation. You're a project memeclip dude? You actually think globohomo America is run by some Nazis that they took in as the spoils of war? Sounds pretty subversive. Do you think you're privy to some knowledge that nobody knows about? I could probably turn on the History Channel and learn about memeclip. Explain the state of the West if there is some Nazis behind the curtains? Did they stop caring about demography or something? Did they stop caring about degeneracy? I don't see National Socialism besides some fringe groups. Edited April 5, 2022 by EnigmaticWorld 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 (edited) Bloody Nazis. /s Edited April 5, 2022 by EnigmaticWorld 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 19 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: You're a project memeclip dude? You actually think globohomo America is run by some Nazis that they took in as the spoils of war? Sounds pretty subversive. Do you think you're privy to some knowledge that nobody knows about? I could probably turn on the History Channel and learn about memeclip. Explain the state of the West if there is some Nazis behind the curtains? Did they stop caring about demogrpahy or something? Did they stop caring about degeneracy? I don't see National Socialism besides some fringe groups. The NAZI thing is a psyop. Just a cover all in one term for everything. It has no original meaning left. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skitzorat Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 (edited) On 3/17/2022 at 8:23 AM, Macnamara said: no these things are only 'conspiracy theories' when we say them Off topic but reminds me of these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_world_order_(politics) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(conspiracy_theory) They take gaslighting to the extreme, just like White Genocide: if you think White replacement is a good thing, the (((media))) acknowledges that White replacement is real. If you think it is bad, suddenly it is a conspiracy theory. Edited April 5, 2022 by skitzorat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skitzorat Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 On 3/8/2022 at 7:34 AM, bamboozooka said: It's Saint George slaying the dragon. (he got around!) 2018 25 years ago, the modern Russian coat of arms was approved by Presidential Decree The coat of arms of Russia depicts a golden two-headed eagle on a red background. Above its heads, there are three crowns, symbolizing the sovereignty of the Russian Federation and its regions. The scepter and orb, which the eagle holds in its claws, personify state power and a unified state. On the chest of an eagle, there is a horseman who slays a serpent. This is one of the ancient symbols of the struggle between good and evil and the defense of the Motherland. For the first time, a two-headed eagle as a state symbol of the Russian state appeared on the state seal of Ivan III in 1497. Being the husband of Sophia Palaiologina, descended from the last Byzantine ruling dynasty, Ivan III decided to use the coat of arms of the Holy Roman Empire, declaring himself the heir to the eastern part of the disintegrating empire — Byzantium. The coat of arms is represented in many state institutions, including the State Duma. http://duma.gov.ru/en/news/28991/ I prefer their Imperial one. The main element of the coat of arms is an eagle - eagles are extremely common in heraldry. An eagle is seen as a majestic animal; the king of the skies. So it firstly represents power and kingship. It was a symbol that was used by the Roman empire (the aquila). When the Roman empire split into the Western and Eastern Roman empires, the East (otherwise known as Byzantium) continued using an eagle as their symbol. The Byzantines, however, liked using a double-headed eagle (possibly to symbolise the fact that they were looking both east and west). Byzantium was also the origin of the Eastern Orthodox churches, which themselves continued using double-headed eagles. Thus, the double-headed eagle became a symbol for an Eastern European identity. Thus, it made sense for the Orthodox Russian Emperor to adopt a double-headed eagle as a symbol- Moscow considered itself the "Third Rome" after Constantinople was conquered. It seems particularly apt for Russia, a country which spans both Asia and Europe (again, looking both east and west). In the centre of the shield is another shield depicting Saint George slaying the dragon. This also has links to Byzantium, where the Byzantine rulers would choose their own personal patron saints and display them on their coins or seals. An early Russian emperor also had a personal patron saint - Saint George. Thus, the cities he founded also had associations with Saint George. Moscow was one of these cities. During Muscovite Russia, the symbol of a horseman holding a spear and slaying a dragon was passed down to the various rulers. It eventually became a Russian symbol, especially after Saint George was made the patron saint of Moscow and then also of the whole of Russia. (Saint George was Yaroslav's patron saint, and also that of his descendant Yuri Dolgorukiy (reigned 1149–51 and 1155–57), who founded what was to become the Russian capital city, Moscow, in 1156 (Yuri is Russian for George).) During the imperial times, there were other elements added to the coat of arms. This included surrounding the main shield with little shields symbolising all of the regions of Russia. In addition, there was a shield representing the personal family arms of the Holstein-Gottorp-Romanovs. Inescutcheon: Gules, St. George proper riding a horse Argent slaying a dragon Or: The Grand Duchy of Muscovy. The mounting: Double eagle Sable armed and langued Or holding a sceptre and globus crucifer crowned with imperial crown. The claim on the Eastern Roman crown, and the domain extending to both Europe and Asia. The small escutcheons, from sinister to dexter: Duchy of Astrakhan, Duchy of Siberia, Kingdom of Georgia, Grand Duchy of Finland, Grand Duchy of Kiev-Vladimir-Novgorod, duchy of Taurica, Kingdom of Poland and Khanate of Kazan The three crowns denote Empire of Russia, Kingdom of Poland and Grand Duchy of Finland. Love this stuff! Nothing beats the Holy Roman Empires one though.. IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 (edited) 45 minutes ago, DarianF said: The NAZI thing is a psyop. Just a cover all in one term for everything. It has no original meaning left. I mean there are actual Nazis, but yeah, I don't see them having any real power. They just look like pawns too. There's a lot a tatted up Neo-Nazi skinheads too, the types that NatSocs wouldn't even recognize. It's the same with a lot of old school Communists from the Eastern block, they often don't recognize modern Cultural Marxists. Edited April 5, 2022 by EnigmaticWorld 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skitzorat Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, skitzorat said: state seal of Ivan III in 1497. Being the husband of Sophia Palaiologina, descended from the last Byzantine ruling dynasty, Fascinating stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skitzorat Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: I mean there are actual Nazis, but yeah, I don't see them having any real power. They just look like pawns too. There's a lot a tatted up Neo-Nazi skinheads too, the types that NatSocs wouldn't even recognize. It's the same with a lot of oldschool Communists from the Eastern block, they often don't recognize modern Cultural Marxists. Looks like a wigger with Nazi fetish bling. "Nazis" for Globohomo taking orders from a Jewish President who's funded by a Jewish Oligarch using weapons funded by Israel trying to spark WWIII with another Jewish President funded by Jewish Oligarchs. What a time to be alive! The Jewish Takeover of Ukraine: Zelensky’s political prisoners https://englishnews.org/2020/04/10/the-jewish-takeover-of-ukraine-zelenskys-political-prisoners/ The fuvking state of this/them though, I mean really. FFS. The German National Socialists were always strikingly handsome in appearance! Even in the endless fvcking movies the hollyweird jews have made denouncing them as evil & bad.bad.bad they still represent them as 'hot' because they were; they still had to make their revisionism of the German people believable because everyone knew it to be the case - they were strikingly goodlooking, especially in uniform and when 'representing' in photos - both the men and woman - it came with the racial/ethnic pride. But our enemy doesn't even respect internal consistency in crafting their narratives; the many lies from the media and various governments - all done so people switch off and don't question (like covid.) Pravy Sektor (Right Sector) played a large role in western media reports on Ukraine back in 2014 and the following year. There's talk of one of Pravy Sektor's leaders meeting with a rabbi in the field. Just like ISIL/ISIS stayed clear of Israel, said they had no plans to attack Israel, and Israel was seen giving medical aid at their border to ISIS fighters, these groups Pravy Sektor and now Azov Battalion are really just groups propped up by Jewry and given the image they want to project. They're definitely not Nazis. Some in their ranks may lean pro-White perhaps but the groups are tools of Jewry. Jews love, love, love to blame Nazis for stuff, now even eighty years later. And with the "Nazi" boogeyman pushed to the front of the room, no government and almost nobody in the press is willing to point a finger at The Jew behind these events and narratives. So many "costume" Nazis. OMG "NAZIS" control the West! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skitzorat Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 2 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said: Bloody Nazis. /s At least we're not speaking German! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted April 5, 2022 Author Share Posted April 5, 2022 46 minutes ago, skitzorat said: At least we're not speaking German! we kind of are because english is a mixture of germanic, french and latin But the idea that the germans would have forced us to speak german if they had managed to conquer britain is absurd as they didn't force occupied france to speak german. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted April 5, 2022 Author Share Posted April 5, 2022 48 minutes ago, skitzorat said: It IS all of those things mentioned but those are all just different tentacles of the same sabbatean-jewish beast For example the bavarian illuminati were formed by weishaupt and jesuit trained jew who was a follower of the sabbatean leader jacob frank who was in turn bankrolled by the rothschilds who were bankers to the vatican. Those illuminati created groups like the league of the just out of which came karl marx and socialism along with feminism and the royal family are simply a knights templar (crypto-sabs) bloodline family That network of sabbatean banksters then created all the mega-corporations that make up the 'military industrial complex' and they created wahabbism which is the militant form of islam that formed the bogeyman of the 'war on terror'. It's all correct and it all fits together 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusOmouse Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Macnamara said: It IS all of those things mentioned but those are all just different tentacles of the same sabbatean-jewish beast Indeed it is Mac. I live in the hope that one day so many knowledgeable posters on this forum will stop claiming that the people they point out and make reference too are even remotely Jewish. They are the polar fukn opposite. If you see Frank, tell him ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skitzorat Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Macnamara said: we kind of are because english is a mixture of germanic, french and latin But the idea that the germans would have forced us to speak german if they had managed to conquer britain is absurd as they didn't force occupied france to speak german. I know lol "At least we're not speaking German" is an old meme used sardonically in the same way as David Mitchell's German soldiers sketch "Are we the baddies?" is used :) https://www.google.com/search?q=at+least+we're+not+speaking+german+meme&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjOt9Hl0P32AhUh-nMBHQS6BUMQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=at+least+we're+not+speaking+german+meme&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQA1AAWABgAGgAcAB4AIABAIgBAJIBAJgBAKoBC2d3cy13aXotaW1n&sclient=img&ei=ApVMYs6uGqH0z7sPhPSWmAQ&bih=529&biw=1023 Conquer Britain? haha I know what you mean. I learnt the other day some of the propaganda utilized in the US to garner public approval; to "prove" the imminent threat Hitler posed to the United States, was that he was going to "conquer" via Brazil lol https://allthatsinteresting.com/axis-plan-to-invade-america So many lies - just like how Hitler wanted to bomb the Eiffel Tower as they were retreating. How on earth they would manage to do that and with what resources, while in a quagmire with the Soviet Union, one would have to use the same math and mental gymnastics as another famous aspect of WWII. But we're not allowed to think, let alone speak, logically about these things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozooka Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 we are still celebrating 70 years for a member of the house of saxe-coburg and gotha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skitzorat Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 36 minutes ago, bamboozooka said: we are still celebrating 70 years for a member of the house of saxe-coburg and gotha Speaking of the house of Saxe-Coburg & Gotha - instead of celebrating that degenerate branch we should be celebrating the lives of Tzar Nicky II & Tzarina Alexandra Romanov instead. It's coming up 104 years since the satanic Bolshevik ritual slaughter of Tzar Nicky II (who's cousin George V changed their name to Windsor, their mothers were sisters) and Alexandra, who was Queen Victoria Saxe-Coburg & Gotha's favourite granddaughter. Dirty ol' Phillip was both Alix's grandnephew and a direct descendant of the Nicholas II Romanov too, they used his DNA to identify the Romanov's remains before the Orthodox Church canonized as saints. I know that's not the way Houses/Titles work, but still - they are far more worthy of celebration. Although since they're cancelling Russian cats and other crazy stuff, the anniversary of their slaughter, July 18, won't get a mention in western press, (even though they were more ethnically German than Russian!) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, skitzorat said: instead of celebrating that degenerate branch Yeah, screw them. It's not like they do anything for Anglos or any other Germanics anyway, all they do is shit on us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCP Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Max Igan discusses Russia's role in the NWO in his latest walk & talk released today - April 5. I agree with his opinion that Russia will not be the guys in 'White Hats' that are here to save the day as many speculate. It would be hard to install the Great Reset and a one world government without a major country like Russia onboard. The White Hat Delusion https://www.bitchute.com/video/cbslLYbdfGA3/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted April 5, 2022 Author Share Posted April 5, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, skitzorat said: It's coming up 104 years since the satanic Bolshevik ritual slaughter of Tzar Nicky II but the tangled web goes even further back then that because one of the tzars interferred with the american civil war which upset the rothschild cabal Then you have tzar alexander II being assassinated by sabbatean-jewish freemasons. The rothschilds had created a network of secret societies in russia and across europe which are listed in the encyclopedia of zionism. This then led to retaliatory pogroms. Rothschild cabal bankster jacob schiff, bankrolled the modernisation of the japanese navy which then went to war with the russians and defeated the russian navy and then he funded trotsky, when he was in new york through b'nai brith a sabbatean body set up by jewish freemasons. THEN tzar nicolas was murdered by sabbatean-jewish bolsheviks along with over a million white, christian russians THEN the nazis came into being soon after who were also bankrolled by the wall st bankers and that created a kind of hegelian dialectic which the cabal are still using today to divide and rule everyone and they are looking to turbo charge that dialectic in ukraine through boostinmg neo-nazis to create the new western bogeyman which this time will be 'white supremacism' which of course will see any of us who question MASS immigration branded as 'extremists' and 'domestic terrorists' just like they used to call us russian bots until we pointed out how russia is part of the nwo Edited April 5, 2022 by Macnamara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommydrifter Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 hi all ----- thankyou to the poster above for contributing constructively to the conversation and offering readers of the forums the opportunity to clarify their thinking by doing their own research! i am in the process of working my way through max igan's videos on bitchute, beginning this year. i am new to max igan's work. ----- more on nazis i can only address what i can understand and i can only speak to what i know or speculate on is contained in my knowledge base. operation paperclip is historical fact. the ratlines are historical fact. nazi knowledge and expertise was transferred to the west and to the east after the war. i am inclined to believe the nazis are a breakaway civilisation. speculations on russia and the illuminati and nazis at this point, i give the russian authorities the benefit of doubt and take them at their word: the russian military has launched an incursion into the ukraine to "denazify" the country and is targeting bioweapons laboratories. there is no doubt that the illuminati has infiltrated the ukraine. i speculate the illuminati's man zelenskiy is specifically-programmed. there is no doubt about nazis in the ukraine: "if it quacks like a duck..." (check out the work of real journalist max blumenthal at "the grayzone" if you need convincing.) i speculate that the power behind the nazi thugs in the ukraine is the illuminati. ----- i expect to misunderstood and taken out of context by the uneducated. you guys need to do some meditation, deprogramming, and research; and clear the floor for the people who know they are talking about. wishing all a great day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, tommydrifter said: operation paperclip is historical fact. I don't think anyone is denying that, it's just not some revelation to most people. The point is that we don't see National Socialism in America. So even if the same cabal that controlled Germany also run America, it's not like they're Nazis these days. They just took what they could from the wreckage of Germany after the war. 10 minutes ago, tommydrifter said: there is no doubt about nazis in the ukraine: "if it quacks like a duck..." (check out the work of real journalist max blumenthal at "the grayzone" if you need convincing.) i speculate that the power behind the nazi thugs in the ukraine is the illuminati. And again, of course there are Nazis in Ukraine, the question is how much power they have. Who are the illuminati in your eyes, because that sounds vague? And are you just going to ignore the tribal elephant in the room, or just focus on some reprobate Nazi thugs that are cannon fodder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 8 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said: I mean there are actual Nazis, but yeah, I don't see them having any real power. They just look like pawns too. There's a lot a tatted up Neo-Nazi skinheads too, the types that NatSocs wouldn't even recognize. It's the same with a lot of old school Communists from the Eastern block, they often don't recognize modern Cultural Marxists. Exactly. I think the original / real nazis would consider these skinheads as degenerates. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skitzorat Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Macnamara said: one of the tzars interferred with the american civil war which upset the rothschild cabal interesting! Do you have any links to articles etc about this? Haven't read about this before. I knew and agree about the other stuff you mentioned, although I'm not sold on Hitler being "controlled opposition" - but I appreciate everyone has their opinions (AS IT SHOULD BE! /choir preach) and I especially like how at least *some* of the more 'hidden' (read: still not illegal to talk about) aspects of WWII is discussed. I realize the rabbit hole is deeper and older and far more complex, but I dare to surmise that many of the "troubles" we are facing today had their genesis, or at the very least the fire was really stoked, post WWII. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skitzorat Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 1 hour ago, tommydrifter said: i expect to misunderstood and taken out of context by the uneducated. you guys need to do some meditation, deprogramming, and research; and clear the floor for the people who know they are talking about. wishing all a great day signing off with a namaste doesn't counter arrogance. No offense, but I suggest you take your own advice first before attempting to educate lecture others about your interpretation of history. While I celebrate this place for its openness of ideas (being a conspiracy forum) trotting in with a holier-than-thou-know-it-all attitude isn't the best way of presenting your ideas for discussion IMO. shalom 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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