Is Russia part of the New World Order?

[Macnamara]

15 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

Not really sure to be honest, but one thing I have noticed is that a lot of these talking heads that have links to Russia, they seem to talk about Zionism in the West and Israel, but don't really say much in regards to who is pulling the strings in Eurasia, which is why some people have coined the term 'dollar store anti-Zionism', as they will only talk about the Zio influence in certain nations.

 

There really isn't a lot said about russia OR china in the whole independent media scene. Why is that? Is it because people just aren't as well versed in the history and culture and power structures and networks of those countries? Its like there is still an iron curtain of some kind in operation

 

is it just that most 'conspiracy theorists' are mostly focussed on their own back yard? I don't know but certainly eurasianism is something i feel we should be exploring especially in the light of this current stand off on the border of poland

 

15 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

Like I said in the Covid thread though, I'm not sure how I feel about her. Just because someone doesn't talk about certain things, I don't want to immediately write them off, as they might only focus on certain regions and a Western audience.

 

I guess I will have to do a bit more digging into these accusations, and get back to you on this.

 

Please do as i always like to give people a fair hearing and i'd like to hear what it is those people are saying. My current perception of whitney is that she is doing a damn good job digging out the various strands of the network in the west

 

15 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

I don't think Eurasianism is independent, I just think Eurasia is the elites next golden calf that they want to milk dry once they're done milking the West.

 

My view is similar to Anatoliy Golitsyn's. I think they have pretended to abandon their Soviet past to give them plausible deniability, meanwhile they play both sides of the political spectrum in the West, as lots of political commentators have lots of ties to Eurasianists, especially on the alt-right. It's like they play both sides in politics in our nations to further weaken and divide us. Meanwhile they can act like it's not them because they put on this front like they're all wholesome and traditional, but in reality they're pushing the Covid scam in Russia too. Fortunately the Russian people are good at standing their ground because they still have a memory of tyranny, or they have at least been so far during the scamdemic.

 

yeah see it conjures up images of the set up in orwells '1984' where the world is split into three super powers that are always in a perpetual war of ever shifting alliances and enemies so that the public never really know what is going on and i think the implication is that at the level of big brother it is all a scam perpetuated so that the populations of those regions are always kept in fear of an external threat with their own authoritarian governments then offering them security and protection from whatever the bogeyman of the moment is

 

Is eurasionism independent of say the trilateral commission or is it just there to play a bad guy role in a greater deception? I feel like we have a lot of digging to do to bring clarity to that situation

Edited November 14, 2021 by Macnamara

[EnigmaticWorld]

4 hours ago, Macnamara said:

There really isn't a lot said about russia OR china in the whole independent media scene.

 

Yep, most of what I hear about what goes on in Russia is from English speaking Russian's themselves, but the alt media seems to ignore a lot of the bad stuff there. I guess it's hard to talk about for many people because often if you criticize something about Russia, people might think you're some nutty Leftist that blames everything on Russians, even though we're not talking about regular Russian people here.

 

With China, it's understandable that we don't always know what is going on there because they're cut off from us because of the Golden Shield firewall on their internet.

 

4 hours ago, Macnamara said:

is it just that most 'conspiracy theorists' are mostly focussed on their own back yard? I don't know but certainly eurasianism is something i feel we should be exploring especially in the light of this current stand off on the border of poland

 

I think it's that, and people think Putin is some kind saviour figure or something.

 

But just because Putin might not be as nutty as our leaders on the surface, and just because he might often say the right things, that doesn't mean he is on our side.

 

4 hours ago, Macnamara said:

Is eurasionism independent of say the trilateral commission or is it just there to play a bad guy role in a greater deception?

 

I don't know, but I think the PTB in the East and West are both in bed together, so yeah, I think there are people playing good cop vs bad cop.

 

4 hours ago, Macnamara said:

I feel like we have a lot of digging to do to bring clarity to that situation

 

Yup.

Edited November 14, 2021 by EnigmaticWorld

[EnigmaticWorld]

 

 

"with Russia's President denying any involvement."

 

[EnigmaticWorld]

On 10/16/2021 at 12:24 AM, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

https://traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/A956-Sch.htm

 

 

14/11/2021
The Vatican humiliates Central European Catholics with Russia meeting
https://rmx.news/poland/the-vatican-humiliates-central-european-catholics-with-russia-meeting/

 

 

'Due to political games and diplomatic relations, the Vatican’s diplomacy has turned away from Poland and has ignored the fact that a real war is being waged against Polish Catholics.'

[Grumpy Owl]

Had this pop up just now while scrolling through Facebook:

 

 

Facebook does often "suggest for me" some often weird and random shit, but I was intrigued by how they had the audacity to label RT as 'Russia state-controlled media'. (Clearly true though, not going to deny it)

 

I wonder if Russians who see BBC articles 'suggested for them' on Facebook have them labelled as "United Kingdom state-controlled media"?

[Nobby Noboddy]

2 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said:

Had this pop up just now while scrolling through Facebook:

 

 

Facebook does often "suggest for me" some often weird and random shit, but I was intrigued by how they had the audacity to label RT as 'Russia state-controlled media'. (Clearly true though, not going to deny it)

 

I wonder if Russians who see BBC articles 'suggested for them' on Facebook have them labelled as "United Kingdom state-controlled media"?

Hope so as the BBC is clearly that.

In fact there is NO independent media beyond someone printing their own leaflets and distributing them.

[Macnamara]

Technocracy: The Operating System For The New International Rules-Based Order

The International Rules-Based Order (IRBO) is under threat and global power is shifting. As East and West rekindle old enmities we are led to believe that this struggle will determine the future of international relations and the direction of nation states. However, the global transformation is not led by national governments but by a global network of stakeholders and global technocracy is their goal.

byIain Davis

February 22, 2022

 

In the West, we have been educated to have faith in the IRBO. It is sold to us as an arrangement that establishes normative behaviour for nation states. A basis for international relations is supposedly agreed upon and acceptable behaviour ordained.

Far from being a set of rules to facilitate peaceful coexistence between nation states, the IRBO has always been a tool for manipulation. The question is who wields it? 

The recent joint statement between the Russian Federation and the People’s Republic of China appeared to explicitly redefine the current IRBO. Presidents Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping agreement read, in part:

“Today, the world is going through momentous changes, and humanity is entering a new era of rapid development and profound transformation. It sees the development of such processes and phenomena as multipolarity, economic globalization, the advent of information society, cultural diversity, transformation of the global governance architecture and world order. [. . .] a trend has emerged towards redistribution of power in the world. [. . .] the international law-based world order, seek genuine multipolarity with the United Nations and its Security Council playing a central and coordinating role.”

 

By contrast, the speech delivered by UK Foreign Secretary Liz Truss to the Lowy Institute, a Rothschild backed Australian policy think-tank with a focus upon the Asia-Pacific region, illustrated the western position. She said:

“Russia and China are working together more and more, as they strive to set the standards in technologies like artificial intelligence, assert their dominance over the Western Pacific. [. . .] They’re destabilising the international rules-based order and they’re chipping away at the values that underpin it. [. . .] We believe in freedom and democracy. [. . .] As Prime Minister Scott Morrison said, ‘we know from the evidence of human history that democracies are the engine room of change.’ [. . .] Technology has empowered people by enabling incredible freedom, but we know it can be seized upon by others to promote fear. [. . .] By joining forces with the US we are showing our determination to protect security and stability across the region.”

Taken on face value, we would inevitably conclude that, while the axis is in flux, the adversarial stand-off continues. To a great extent, this is a fabrication. 

In discussing the IRBO, we immediately run into a nomenclature problem. Sometimes referred to as the “rules-based international order;” at other times the “international order” or “rules-based system;” or occasionally the “rules-based international system,” now we seemingly need to add “international law-based world order.” 

While there is no settled definition for this alleged system of global governance, it all amounts to the same thing. The fulcrum may have moved, but the ruse remains intact. 

This definition problem illustrates the primary flaw with any notion of a global rules-based order. It is ill-defined and transient. It relies more upon the realpolitik of the day than any genuine moral, legal or political precepts. 

While Truss accurately outlined how that so-called order can be seized and exploited, she misled her audience in regards to who the abusers are. Nor is the existing IRBO founded upon democracy and freedom. Her claims were a deceit. 

 

https://unlimitedhangout.com/2022/02/investigative-reports/technocracy-the-operating-system-for-the-new-international-rules-based-order-1/

[Macnamara]

Iain Davis's article continued...(with a focus on the part on Russia)

 

Governments, including those of the US, Russia and China, are G3P stakeholders. In 2017, speaking at a Harvard seminar, the founder and executive chairman of the WEF, Klaus Schwab, said:

“Mrs Merkel, even Vladimir Putin, and so on, they have all been Young Global Leaders of the World Economic Forum. But what we are really proud of now with the young generation like Prime Minister Trudeau, President of Argentina and so on, is that we penetrate the cabinets. So yesterday I was at a reception for Prime Minister Trudeau and I know that half of this cabinet, or even more than half of this cabinet, are for our… actually Young Global Leaders of the World Economic Forum.”

This was no idle boast. Political leaders such as Tony Blair, Jacinda Ardern, Emmanuel Macron, Alexander De Croo (Belgian PM), Sanna Marin (Finnish PM) and many more political heavyweights have been through the YGL programme. This is why, in an address to the Canadian nation in November 2020, in direct reference to the WEF’s so-called Great Reset, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said:

“Building back better means getting support to the most vulnerable while maintaining momentum on the 2030 agenda for sustainable development and the SDGs. [. . .] This pandemic has provided an opportunity for a reset. This is our chance to accelerate our pre-pandemic efforts to re-imagine economic systems that actually address global challenges like extreme poverty, inequality and climate change.”

Trudeau is one among many WEF Young Global Leaders (YGL), and members of its predecessor program called the Global Leaders of Tomorrow, who have shaped the global policy response to the pseudopandemic. As a YGL graduate, his task was to convince the Canadian public to embrace the G3P’s Great Reset policy agenda.

Despite Schwab’s claims, Russian President Vladimir Putin does not appear to have been among the WEF’s YGL protégés. Yet, speaking in 2019 to President Quesada of Costa Rica, Klaus Schwab repeated his statement about Putin:

“Mrs Merkel, Tony Blair, they were all, even President Putin, they were all Young Global Leaders.”

In 1993, when the Global Leaders of Tomorrow program began, Putin was 41 and the upper age limit for entry into the program was supposedly 38. It seems unlikely that Putin was “officially” a WEF YGL trainee. 

Following 16 years of service in the Soviet KGB, Putin was building his reputation as a politician in 1993, acting as deputy to the Mayor of St Petersburg, Anatoly Sobchak. Sobchak subsequently co-authored the Constitution of the Russian Federation. 

Putin was instrumental in encouraging foreign investment into the city and it was during his time in St Petersburg that Putin seemingly developed a close relationship with Klaus Schwab. In his address to the WEF’s 2021 virtual Davos gathering, Putin said:

“Mr. Schwab, dear Klaus, [. . .] I have been to Davos many times, attending the events organized by Mr. Schwab, even back in the 1990s. Klaus just recalled that we met in 1992. Indeed, during my time in St Petersburg, I visited this important forum many times. [. . .] [I]t is difficult to overlook the fundamental changes in the global economy, politics, social life, and technology. The coronavirus pandemic [. . .] spurred and accelerated the structural changes.”

In terms of G3P partnerships, Russia’s is perhaps one of the closest to the WEF. The WEF’s annual Cyber-Polygon global cybersecurity training exercise is orchestrated by Bi.Zone, a subsidiary of Sberbank. 

Bi.Zone is responsible for designing and running the Cyber Polygon scenarios and exercises. Sberbank is a majority state owned Russian bank and is among the founding members of the WEF Centre For Cybersecurity (CCS).

Source: Carnegie

Other CCS partners include leading US foreign Policy think-tank the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace (CEIP), Europol (representing EU governments), INTERPOL, the Organisation of American States (representing the governments of the North and South American subcontinents), and national cyber security centres from Israel, the UK, Korea, Saudi Arabia and Switzerland (home of the BIS).

Of the many corporations involved in Cyber Polygon 2021, Russian companies formed the largest contingent from any single nation. In addition, the WEF partners with the St Petersburg International Economic Forum (SPIEF.) 

The SPIEF International Foundation was formed in St Petersburg in 1998 under the direction of Herman Gref. He was serving as vice governor of the city at the time. 

In 1993, Gref was also a close associate of Anotoly Sobchak in St Petersburg where Putin was Sobchak’s senior advisor. Gref is currently the CEO and Chairman of Sberbank.

In 2017, Schwab recognised that the SPIEF and Russia were global leaders on international regulation and stated:

“In the new economic environment and with due regard for the latest technological breakthroughs, we are faced with the need for new cooperation formats. [. . .] I am absolutely positive that Russia, as one of the leaders in responsible global regulation, must play a central role in determining new forms of co-existence in the era of the fourth industrial revolution.”

Russia and the SPIEF are part of the G3P network and are heavily involved in global cybersecurity and, in particular, the regulation of technology. It is clear that, through partners like the CFR, BMGF and the WEF, the Global Public-Private Partnership is pushing a global policy agenda supported by both sides of the East-West divide.

WEF assets, like Trudeau and other compromised officials, are positioned to ensure policy distribution is as frictionless as possible. The Russian and, as we shall see, Chinese governments are equally active stakeholders in the G3P’s global governance efforts.

If we believed the western MSM, this would present a seemingly unfathomable conundrum. While these nation states are G3P partners, we are told that they are also undermining the IRBO. Something doesn’t add up.

According to Reuters, European banks need to prepare for Russian cyber attacks. CBS claims the DHS are on full alert for the looming cyber war, while the UK media carried the same scary stories. Forbes reported that Russia had been waging a cyber war against the West for 20 years and the Guardian alleged that this was typical fare for the Russian Federation.

All of this seems extremely odd given that western global corporations such as IBM, Deutsche Bank and Santander were engaged in cyber polygon preparedness exercises that were largely run by a Russian state-owned bank. If any of the MSM’s claims are even remotely plausible, the industrial espionage risk alone would appear to have been off the charts.

Governments from across the western world participate in the WEF Cyber Security Centre which was founded, in part, by Sberbank. At the same time, they keep warning their populations about the danger of Russian cyber attacks.

Frankly, these Russian cyber-threat stories are puerile. The western governments and corporations, who appear to follow G3P orders to the letter, are seemingly content to be guided by a Russian state bank’s cybersecurity assessment and recommendations. 

A far more credible rationale for these MSM stories and government fearmongering is that they are designed to prepare us, and provide justification, for the digital transformation of the financial sector. In their 2020 cyber threats report, the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace (CEIP) stated that the pseudopandemic had necessitated this change.

In a barely concealed reference to Russia and China, the CEIP asserted that cyber attacks from nation states were inevitable. They then predicted that the response to this supposedly unavoidable attack would be to fuse the activities of banks, the financial authorities and the national security apparatus of nation states. 

Centralising authority, especially over financial systems, is always the solution as far as the G3P are concerned. Primarily because they assume the right to exercise that authority.

On the major issues, governments don’t form policy and policy is instead curated by the G3P think-tanks like the CEIP. We should not labour under the illusion that the think-tanks simply offer suggestions. They have the financial, economic and political power to make decisions on the global stage and they have done so for generations.

No one votes for think-tanks. To this extent, so-called representative democracy is a charade. We, the people, have never had any say on the “big issues.” For those of us who live in western democracies, government grandstanding simply serves to convince us that we are somehow represented in the deliberations. It is essentially a confidence trick.

This is the context within which we can come to understand the International Rules Based Order. While it currently relies upon what appears to be the western hegemony and is transitioning towards a Eurasian led multipolar system, both are just convenient mechanisms through which the G3P wields power and authority. 

As noted by many commentators, including the WEF, the IRBO is changing. As it does we all move ever closer to an IRBO based upon the Chinese model of technocracy. 

https://unlimitedhangout.com/2022/02/investigative-reports/technocracy-the-operating-system-for-the-new-international-rules-based-order-1/

 

Edited February 26, 2022 by Macnamara

[bamboozooka]

belarus is anti globalist.

 

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/02/report-massive-buildup-assault-helicopters-southern-belarus-russia-prepares-major-airborne-assault-ukraine/

[bamboozooka]

VLADIMIR PUTIN VS THE NEW WORLD ORDER? COULD THAT REALLY BE TRUE?

https://www.bitchute.com/video/JFh4ndg3LYxS/

[Macnamara]

World War XI

 

[EnigmaticWorld]

Western Putinists will still say Russia is based. Any Soviet Israel shenanigans go right over their heads.

 

Many on the right are so demoralized because of the actions of our own Western leaders to the point where they now welcome the Eurasian boot on their necks. Bezmenov was right.

[EnigmaticWorld]

Forgot the link, my bad.

 

https://www.rt.com/russia/551003-russia-plans-anti-fascist-congress/

[bamboozooka]

[EnigmaticWorld]

[EnigmaticWorld]

"The Foundations of Geopolitics: The Geopolitical Future of Russia is a geopolitical book by Aleksandr Dugin. It has had significant influence within the Russian military, police and foreign policy elites[1] and has been used as a textbook in the Academy of the General Staff of the Russian military."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics#cite_note-HI01-1

 

How much influence?

 

 

 

 

[Golden Retriever]

16 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

The age of psychological warfare on people is alive and kicking.

 

Edited March 8, 2022 by Golden Retriever

[Macnamara]

Out of this conflict the globalist cabal are able to achieve so many things that they want to achieve

 

They are pushing up the prices of fossil fuels which allows them to push the 'smart' electric alternatives

 

They are accelerating the de-dollarisation of the world that will see america collapse into itself economically leading to the creation of a new global order based on central bank digital currencies

 

They are creating an excuse for the food shortages (and shortages of all kinds of things as well) that they want to impose on the world as part of the 'great reset'

 

They are creating an environment in which they can plausibly launch a giant false flag cyber attack to accelerate the remoulding of the economy and the controlled demolition of 'the west'

 

They are flooding more and more migrants into europe and now due to ukrainian refugees they are able to mix in migrants from all around the world in with the refugees to get them into european countries

 

They are driving russia and china into war against the west via ukraine and taiwan which could lead to suspension of democracy and martial law being declared in the west

 

They are burying their crimes against humanity committed through the covid scamdemic

 

They are further building a narrative that greater global cooperation is the only path to ending wars and solving global crises. For example denmark is now voting on whether to drop their opt-out option as part of a european defence force

 

They are further consolidating the militaries of EU and NATO countries into a single global army

[zarkov]

1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

Out of this conflict the globalist cabal are able to achieve so many things that they want to achieve

 

They are pushing up the prices of fossil fuels which allows them to push the 'smart' electric alternatives

 

They are accelerating the de-dollarisation of the world that will see america collapse into itself economically leading to the creation of a new global order based on central bank digital currencies

 

They are creating an excuse for the food shortages (and shortages of all kinds of things as well) that they want to impose on the world as part of the 'great reset'

 

They are creating an environment in which they can plausibly launch a giant false flag cyber attack to accelerate the remoulding of the economy and the controlled demolition of 'the west'

 

They are flooding more and more migrants into europe and now due to ukrainian refugees they are able to mix in migrants from all around the world in with the refugees to get them into european countries

 

They are driving russia and china into war against the west via ukraine and taiwan which could lead to suspension of democracy and martial law being declared in the west

 

They are burying their crimes against humanity committed through the covid scamdemic

 

They are further building a narrative that greater global cooperation is the only path to ending wars and solving global crises. For example denmark is now voting on whether to drop their opt-out option as part of a european defence force

 

They are further consolidating the militaries of EU and NATO countries into a single global army

 

Block Funding platforms

Freeze canadians bank accounts

 

divert >> another dead cat on the table  - Russia/Ukraine fake conflict.

 

sanction russian economy.

 

De dollarise >> Gold standard >> gold backed rubel!       CBDC backed by gold!

 

Makes perfect sense to place trust into a digital crypto control system (on steroids) that will be able to freeze block and sanction individuals and groups on a whim.

 

The only time these cunts focus on individual rights is when they are decimating them!

 

Edited March 8, 2022 by zarkov

[Macnamara]

6 hours ago, zarkov said:

De dollarise >> Gold standard >> gold backed rubel!       CBDC backed by gold!

 

you can see how pressure has been exerted through and since the 2014 coup that would inevitably lead to trouble as Ukraine does not recognise crimeas referendum result to split away from the ukraine so if they joined nato and then invaded crimea (they already cut off the water supply to crimea) they would drag nato into the ensuing conflict with russia. It just creates a kind of domino effect:

 

5 Mar, 2022 14:42

Putin explains why Ukraine attack went beyond Donbass

“They began to say more actively that they will admit [Ukraine] to NATO. What will this lead to? All other members of the alliance must back Ukraine in the case of a military conflict,” Putin said. “They will [attack] Crimea, and we will be forced to go to war with NATO. Do you understand the consequences?” The president stated that he wanted Ukraine to become a neutral country.

Crimea voted to leave Ukraine and join Russia shortly after the 2014 coup in Kiev. It was during that time that the DPR and LPR broke away from Ukraine.

“Let’s acquire nuclear weapons, they say [in Ukraine]. We can’t simply ignore it,” Putin said, referring to President Volodymyr Zelensky’s remark last month that Kiev might be forced to reconsider its status as a non-nuclear-weapons state.

https://www.rt.com/russia/551314-putin-explains-ukraine-tactic/

[EnigmaticWorld]

 

https://thuletide.wordpress.com/2022/02/24/alt-right-and-identitarian-links-to-aleksandr-dugin-tldr-version/

[EnigmaticWorld]

'KGB General Mironov’s subcommittee recommended the following long-range deception operations, requiring the accomplishment of several tasks: (1) Penetrate the intelligence services of the West with “moles”; Convince Western intelligence services of the authenticity of fake intelligence offered by “dangles” and thereby gain promotions for “purveyors of a false disarming narrative” by penetration agents who will inevitably become the leading figures in Western intelligence; (3) while taking control of the intelligence game on the ground, promote the idea that “ideology is dead” in the communist bloc; (4) promote the idea of an “ideological” split between Moscow and Beijing so that the West will “play the China card”; that is, blindly rush in and build China into an industrial and technological giant to counter the USSR; (5) promote fake dissident groups and dissident celebrities in the Soviet Union and its satellites; (6) establish controlled opposition movements in bloc countries; (7) prepare to organize, through agents in the dissident movements, anti-communist revolutions throughout bloc; (8) promote the idea that a future Soviet leader is, in fact, a “liberal reformer”; (9) break up the Warsaw Pact and collapse the Soviet Union in a “controlled” fashion; (10) groom stealth communists as candidates for high office in America and Western Europe. These would present themselves as “moderates,” but would operate as “penetration” agents dedicated to facilitating critical aspects of the strategy; namely, economic sabotage and reduction or diversion of U.S. military resources.'

https://jrnyquist.blog/2020/03/26/the-sino-soviet-long-range-strategy-from-sputnik-to-world-war-iii/

 

On 8/30/2021 at 5:27 AM, EnigmaticWorld said:

"When the right moment comes the mask will be dropped and the Russians with Chinese help will seek to impose their system on the West on their own terms."

- Anatoliy Golitsyn

 

[Macnamara]

The Biden admin just gave Putin $18 BILLION via the IMF.

 

[EnigmaticWorld]

 

 

[DarianF]

Poking the Russian Bear - They Have Known For Decades

 

 

The Map That Shows Why Russia Feels Surrounded