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11 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

if it's not a stupid question: what is the mystical tradition they are referring to?

 

It's okay, it's not a stupid question. I would assume some kind of kabbalistic "liberation" script is their game, but that's just my opinion.

 

I found an archive of the article to get around the paywall. One of the keywords I see in it is "isolationism".

https://archive.ph/6eKRa

 

Does Bannon promote isolationism for Russia, or is this just aimed at the Anglosphere? That's what I'm wondering.

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16 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

It's okay, it's not a stupid question. I would assume some kind of kabbalistic "liberation" script is their game, but that's just my opinion.

 

i think it's this:

The Traditionalist or Perennialist School is a group of 20th- and 21st-century thinkers who believe in the existence of a perennial wisdom or perennial philosophy, primordial and universal truths which form the source for, and are shared by, all the major world religions.

The early proponents of this school of thought are René Guénon, Ananda Coomaraswamy, and Frithjof Schuon. Other notable members include Seyyed Hossein Nasr, Titus Burckhardt, Martin Lings, William Stoddart, Jean-Louis Michon, Marco Pallis, and Huston Smith.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditionalist_School_(perennialism)

 

Carvalho´s interpretation of the traditionalist school is unique in that it is only its criticism of science but rejects it´s belief in cyclical history and in his debate with Aleksandr Dugin, he warned against supporting Russia because in the writtings of René Guénon,he posited a theory that there are seven towers of the devil where "counter-initiation" can be initiated and of the seven towers there is one in Turkestan and two in the Ural mountains, meaning that there are three towers of satanic intiation in the west.[147]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olavo_de_Carvalho

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1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

in cyclical history and in his debate with Aleksandr Dugin, he warned against supporting Russia

 

I see that René Guénon reference. I don't know too much about Bannon's ideology, I was more thinking about Dugin. I know he has probably studied kabbalah, and his desire to paint the West as the Great Satan is aligned with the anti-Edom Noahide agenda. They definitely use perennialism to their advantage though, that's for sure.

 

And my bad, I posted the wrong link. This one has no paywall.

https://web.archive.org/web/20230202140245/https://www.newstatesman.com/ideas/2020/10/rise-traditionalists-how-mystical-doctrine-reshaping-right

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6 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

I see that René Guénon reference. I don't know too much about Bannon's ideology, I was more thinking about Dugin. I know he has probably studied kabbalah, and his desire to paint the West as the Great Satan is aligned with the anti-Edom Noahide agenda. They definitely use perennialism to their advantage though, that's for sure.

 

so i guess the question with dugin is whether or not he rejects 'modernity' in the sense of cultural marxist, post modernism or if he is just playing the part of 'conservative' whilst concealing a communist ideology a la the perestroika deception

 

I'm not qualified to make an assessment about that either way. It's not an area i have any deep insight into

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so i guess the question with dugin is whether or not he rejects 'modernity' in the sense of cultural marxist, post modernism or if he is just playing the part of 'conservative' whilst concealing a communist ideology a la the perestroika deception

 

I'm not qualified to make an assessment about that either way. It's not an area i have any deep insight into

 

He plays both sides, using the left and right. Eurasianists often don't like to mention cultural marxism though, they like people to think western liberalism is responsible for the woke agenda. Cultural Marxism has too many links to the East, and the West must look like it just went crazy and destroyed itself for their deception to work. If they're pushing some kind of Neo-Soviet agenda as an alternative to the "woke" agenda, then I guess they don't want people knowing that the cultural Marxist arm of Communism played a big part in the origins of the woke movement.

 

That's not to say that western liberalism is perfect, but when any so-called right wingers downplay what Marxists have done to the West I get suspicious.

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3 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

He plays both sides, using the left and right. Eurasianists often don't like to mention cultural marxism though, they like people to think western liberalism is responsible for the woke agenda. Cultural Marxism has too many links to the East, and the West must look like it just went crazy and destroyed itself for their deception to work. If they're pushing some kind of Neo-Soviet agenda as an alternative to the "woke" agenda, then I guess they don't want people knowing that the cultural Marxist arm of Communism played a big part in the origins of the woke movement.

 

That's not to say that western liberalism is perfect, but when any so-called right wingers downplay what Marxists have done to the West I get suspicious.

 

Do you think cultural Christianity plays into this too? I'm thinking of New Testament themes such as helping foreigners (parable of the new Samaritan) and giving to the poor (parable of the rich man), turning the other cheek etc. I say cultural Christianity rather than just Christianity because arguably the West only started behaving like this when the western Christian churches started declining in the 19th century. 

 

So in other words, is cultural Marxism a by-product of cultural (ie decaying) Christianity? All that religious impulse doesn't just disappear it has to go somewhere. Or is it the other way round, was proto-Marxism one of the forces which undermined our historic "strong church" Christianity?

 

Also it could be that Christianity contains within itself the dialectic between these forces of a strong central masculine church hierarchy, and a soft feminine kindness towards others, which led to the collapse of the religion of Christianity (perhaps by design) and its replacement by the strong central corporate-socialist state. 

 

Just some rough thoughts, but I can't help seeing some traces of religion in all this. 

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17 hours ago, Campion said:

 

Do you think cultural Christianity plays into this too? I'm thinking of New Testament themes such as helping foreigners (parable of the new Samaritan) and giving to the poor (parable of the rich man), turning the other cheek etc. I say cultural Christianity rather than just Christianity because arguably the West only started behaving like this when the western Christian churches started declining in the 19th century. 

 

So in other words, is cultural Marxism a by-product of cultural (ie decaying) Christianity? All that religious impulse doesn't just disappear it has to go somewhere. Or is it the other way round, was proto-Marxism one of the forces which undermined our historic "strong church" Christianity?

 

Also it could be that Christianity contains within itself the dialectic between these forces of a strong central masculine church hierarchy, and a soft feminine kindness towards others, which led to the collapse of the religion of Christianity (perhaps by design) and its replacement by the strong central corporate-socialist state. 

 

Just some rough thoughts, but I can't help seeing some traces of religion in all this. 

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It's a tough one to answer. A lot of Christians would probably say I'm a bad Christian because I don't want to welcome masses of people into Europe, but I would tell them that sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind, and that our altruism is being used as a weapon against us . I don't really believe that elites think diversity is a strength, and I believe that they'll treat people of colour like slaves again once they have dealt with us Europeans. So in my opinion, the loving thing to do would be to stop the attack against white folks, which would also help people of colour long-term. I also don't agree with bringing developed countries down to the level of developing nations to achieve "equality", but unfortunately, it does look like developed nations are under attack. Surely the loving thing to do would be to help build up developing nations so they can prosper too, not welcome the masses into our own nation so we all become third world.

 

I was always taught that you shouldn't give to receive, and that you should give or do good deeds simply because it's the right thing to do. A lot of progressive Christians seem to have forgotten this teaching, because they virtue signal about their deeds to be socially accepted. Christianity shouldn't be about being accepted though. Jesus didn't care about who gets offended.

 

As for whether Christianity a was trap from the beginning, or whether it has been totally infiltrated and subverted, well, I'm still trying to make my mind up on that too.

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The fourth industrial revolution trundling along in russia too:
 
Sep 26, 2023

Inside Russia’s “digital transformation” Everything is going according to plan.

Riley Waggaman

Things are getting very digital in Russia. For your reading convenience I have decided to compile important updates about Russia’s “digital transformation” into a single blog post. Thank you for reading and have a relaxing Friday.

Putin signs decree on creation of a “digital” domestic passport

Last Monday, Russian President Vladimir Putin approved a plan that will allow Russians to use a digital ID instead of a paper one. The “digital [domestic] passport” (Russia has a domestic passport system) will be stored on the State Services (Gosuslugi) mobile application.

Putin’s decree gives the government three months to compile a list of situations in which a digital ID is a valid form of identification.

https://off-guardian.org/2023/09/26/inside-russias-digital-transformation/

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On 3/9/2023 at 9:23 PM, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

"Code Pink promotes LGBT, open borders, and anti-racism causes in the US, but they don't promote this for Russia, who is paying them. Now think about what Bezmenov was saying earlier."

 

Of course.

 

Typical slimy Kremlinist Marjorie just telling the West to stop fueling the war. My shock is imagined.

 

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On 10/6/2023 at 8:34 AM, bamboozooka said:

when do you think your echo chamber and every tweet you post is not anti russia industrial complex?

 

lets face it, the british state is the epitomy of anti russia industrial complex

 

When will your views be consistent? One minute your types are talking about Castro and the Trudeaus, the next you're trying to gaslight people into believing they're nazis. Trudeau is a CCP stooge, and a if you don't see that, then surely you can see that he is an obvious lefty. You're only going to get mongs to believe that reds are nazis dude.

 

"muh British state"

 

Ahh yes, the same British state that hates the founding stock of Britain, and has been undermining us. The same state that refuses to investigate certain Russian shenanigans. 🙄

 

The agenda is INTERNATIONAL.

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French Authorities Probe Suspected Poisoning of Journalist Criticising Russia
https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/french-authorities-probe-suspected-poisoning-of-journalist-criticising-russia/ar-AA1i6VpB

 

Former Russian TV journalist gets 8 1/2-year sentence in absentia for war criticism
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/former-russian-state-tv-journalist-gets-8-12-103713651

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