Psychosis and hallucinations

[RobinJ]

1 hour ago, ewok said:

Hello Ethel, I have had similar experiences over the years, no idea they were called, 'tactile hallucinations'. thank you for that and posting :)

For me, they are just a part of life and have been mostly of great comfort - the feeling of someone stroking my head or arm is quite common, tugging my hair, and often happen at a time of great distress. I had a cushion placed over my head once with no-one else in the flat :D (not to smother me, more to cocoon).

Once, I woke from a dream about my dad comforting me to a visceral feeling of being stroked on the head and thought he was sitting there. I turned on my side lamp, and saw a dent on the bed - as if someone had actually been sitting there. I watched it until it went back to normal (and the feeling of being stroked faded). After it I thought I should've been scared but I wasn't (and I'm a big scaredy cat).

I've come to realise they are either a comfort or a warning (see below) and feel very strongly it was / is often my biological father (deceased since I was a young child). Never tried to communicate, as I have 'known' / 'sensed' in a different way what it is for, and in the warnings, I've often been propelled out of bad situations before they happened.

A few of the 'out of situations before something awful happened';

- on way to a treatment, having not long left the house. I felt tugging on my clothes (no-one around, or anything that could 'pull' that strongly), and had an overwhelming sense of foreboding. I sat down for what I thought was a couple of mins - max - under a tree (just a few thoughts through my head about the situation). I lost time, 25mins had passed, and as am always on time for things, panicked and rang the clinic, there was no answer, so I hurried as quickly as I could, turning up what would have been 20mins into the appointment. The clinic was on fire, staff were standing about, as was my therapist, waiting for the fire engine. Had I been on time, both me and the therapist I would've been in a basement room when the fire broke out that would've been very difficult to escape from (turned out there were dodgy electrics installed and it spread very quickly). 

- just up and walked out of a club one night, said goodbye to someone I knew as I passed, who was surprised - as was I. I said I just couldn't stay, and it was like something lifted me up and propelled me out of there (like when you're young and you walk on an adults feet). A huge fight broke out 10mins after I left, and a few people got glassed (including one of my friends).

- Had a similar thing in a shop - just upped and out, no idea why, my friend I was with followed me, we heard a huge crash,  we went back, and where we'd been standing chatting / browsing, the wall and heavy shelving had fallen in, and there was a hole where we'd been standing (as well as being crushed, we'd have fallen into the basement).

- Also had the 'propelling' thing when a guy I liked the look of started to approach me at a party, something turned me away (felt like someone behind me), out into the garden area, I thought talking to someone, but apparently was by myself. Years later found out he was a very abusive man when we briefly got together (and he related his experience of me that night - he was very hurt I'd just turned and walked away by myself rather than talking to him and he watched me walk off - alone). His thing is / was to get women addicted to heroin by spiking joints (and get them into bed / relationships by spiking them with little amounts of MDMA - which he did with me as I found out after). I found a lot of stuff on his computer one day - after a mutual friend warned me about him early on after we got together - I got some of it translated by someone (he wasn't English), after we broke up, and they told me I was better off out of it - all kinds of weird stuff that I couldn't even understand what the person translating was telling me, makes more sense now. I often think he/ they were funnelling vulnerable young women to who knows what. I left that friendship group as there was a wall of silence around his - and I realised others - really abusive behaviour. A lot of weird stuff happens around the party / club scene that is linked into all the satanic stuff I'm realising, before I just thought it was me.

I saw a couple of freeform demons I now know were attached to him, in his flat (in the bedroom specifically), and the last time I saw him, his face was totally demonic, and not like his 'normal' face (in broad daylight - I'd been to get my things from his flat), so I know the 'shifting' thing happens (still see this occasionally, not necessarily demons, animals, child-like faces mostly), and know it's not just a side-effect of drugs etc - I haven't touched anything like that for nearly 20 years. He had a really sly smile, and his face was totally different, I'll never forget it - he knew the game (with me) was up. I realised then those entities need consent - we give our power away in so many ways, and I have do a lot of work on refining boundaries - personal, emotional, mental and most importantly, spiritual (the most powerful ime), as I would give 'consent' subconsciously, I didn't even know I was doing it.

Glad to find someone else who has similar experiences, mine - mostly - haven't been damagingly demonic, but I'm always very careful energetically, as I'm highly sensitive, and luckily, intuitively, knew to look into protecting myself, which while wasn't perfect, that focus (and pure intention), has kept me safe as possible (and have had / am on a wonderful healing process / journey). I've never thought to try to communicate, I may do some dowsing comms with it now, thank you :)

For me, intuition is the best guide (not necessarily instinct, which can operate from fear, 'true' instinct for me just 'happens' - like the upping and getting out - but comes from a base of intuition for me). That connection to the universe via my own inner realm / higher self is always - and the only thing - to be fully trusted, and am always 'querying' to make sure it is that. I also have a mostly organic diet, and don't do alcohol or drugs (even paracetamol can give me 'imbalances). My mediation and yoga practices are also very 'basic', traditional - I don't do well with mixing techniques or newer adaptations (they can send me a bit doolally), but that's just me, we all have different modalities.

I also do 'shadow' work - we hide lots of good stuff in our shadows, and also we're manipulated by our blind spots, so forefront for me is to look out / work on that, it underlies most of what I do - where I go, my shadow goes, and I need to work out what's mine and what's not, what I need to attend to, what I should walk away from - or just observe - otherwise I go into a 'freeze' or 'fawn' trauma response. Boundary work goes hand in hand with shadow work for me.

Those realms are very tricky for me, and any work has to be from a base of groundedness in this physical realm, and I don't think there's any one way to do things 'right'. Tthe devil always wears a smile' as a healer I went to (literally a week after I saw his demon), told me, and the more I tread my path, the more truth I realise is in those words
 

If anyone wants a fab book on Dream interpretation, Robert Johnson's (jungian), 'Inner Work' is seminal imo. He teaches a four - step technique to interpret your own dreams and work out what the images mean specifically for you (and how to recognise archetypal ones / meanings etc), and reconcile those into your conscious / waking life (dreams are how our subconscious tries to communicate with us - we ignore it / don't know how to interpret mostly). It's brilliant, and he also has a section on 'active imagination' for exploration but I've never done that - the dreamwork has been powerful enough for me, and I haven't needed to do a lot of it. Even one not very well remembered dream can yield loads.

Wow

What incredible experiences. I have come realise that we all have our special ways or talents to to tap into our true self and abilities to connect spiritually. For me its frequency. We are gathering now, and sharing these experiences will help us all to find our true path, and those we need to form bonds with, so we can be a combined force. Amazing time to be alive in this realm.

[Youknownothingbutyou]

"hallucinations"

one thing psychedelics drugs showed me clearly is that life as we know it is a hallucination.

reality is a hallucination. its illusionary. our human body dont have the capacity to truly see reality. our sense are too limited for our survival sake

 

I have seen hell and heavens, and everything in between.

Hindu gods are real

Hell and heaven is real

law of cause and effect is real

peace of heart is real

 

 

[DaleP]

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"Its worth mentioning that Terence Mckenna and Dennis McKenna used sound to generate some kind of light at La Chorrera in 1971 I think? it's detailed in the book True Hallucinations, highly recommend!"

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-lpKMa7lVU

 

I haven't watched this

 

[Malbec]

On 1/27/2023 at 12:31 PM, ewok said:

 

If anyone wants a fab book on Dream interpretation, Robert Johnson's (jungian), 'Inner Work' is seminal imo. He teaches a four - step technique to interpret your own dreams and work out what the images mean specifically for you (and how to recognise archetypal ones / meanings etc), and reconcile those into your conscious / waking life (dreams are how our subconscious tries to communicate with us - we ignore it / don't know how to interpret mostly). It's brilliant, and he also has a section on 'active imagination' for exploration but I've never done that - the dreamwork has been powerful enough for me, and I haven't needed to do a lot of it. Even one not very well remembered dream can yield loads.

What a great post Ewok, thanks for sharing your personal experiences. 

 

I think if People haven't had such experiences with either spirits/ ghosts or warning type stuff you have clearly experienced, it's harder to understand. For example a lot of people know or sense a higher force and another plane, but dont have such evidence to back it up? 

 

With the ex partner you spoke of, who had changed into a demonic state, do you think he was possessed temporarily or for a significant period of.time? As in, the whole relationship? I'm just struggling to understand the entities at the moment, as I understand they can come and go but other factors can affect people as well, so it's hard to distinguish, unless you actually see it physically in his face like you did. 

 

I will check out the dream book as well thank you  

[RobinJ]

1 hour ago, Malbec said:

What a great post Ewok, thanks for sharing your personal experiences. 

 

I think if People haven't had such experiences with either spirits/ ghosts or warning type stuff you have clearly experienced, it's harder to understand. For example a lot of people know or sense a higher force and another plane, but dont have such evidence to back it up? 

 

With the ex partner you spoke of, who had changed into a demonic state, do you think he was possessed temporarily or for a significant period of.time? As in, the whole relationship? I'm just struggling to understand the entities at the moment, as I understand they can come and go but other factors can affect people as well, so it's hard to distinguish, unless you actually see it physically in his face like you did. 

 

I will check out the dream book as well thank you  

From my experience I can say that the dark entities use your negative  high emotion moments to attach, particularly if you have started your spiritual journey and are at the beginning where you are learning your true nature. For me personally I didnt see them, it took over my emotions. Some people carry them their entire life and are manipulated entirely.

[ewok]

3 hours ago, Malbec said:

What a great post Ewok, thanks for sharing your personal experiences. 

 

I think if People haven't had such experiences with either spirits/ ghosts or warning type stuff you have clearly experienced, it's harder to understand. For example a lot of people know or sense a higher force and another plane, but dont have such evidence to back it up? 

 

With the ex partner you spoke of, who had changed into a demonic state, do you think he was possessed temporarily or for a significant period of.time? As in, the whole relationship? I'm just struggling to understand the entities at the moment, as I understand they can come and go but other factors can affect people as well, so it's hard to distinguish, unless you actually see it physically in his face like you did. 

 

I will check out the dream book as well thank you  

Yw, Malbec. Glad you found it interesting. And yes, agree re: experience. It's the way to knowledge for me. I do tend to choose who I speak to about it though. Felt good to have a space to open up about it here, as have very few people I can speak with about it IRL.

Re: the ex. I saw a distinct entities in his flat, hazy, but definitely demonic. I had  a cushion placed on my head / was stroked (but that didn't feel malevolent), and also saw  'shape shifting' change in his face -  not sure if it was the same entity(ies)  I saw. No idea if it was a temporary / permanent thing for him, nor the depth / type of possession - whether an attachment or fully embodied etc. 

He was quite abusive / violent (which he put down to 'passion' and the usual, because 'he loved me' bull), and I did good to get out when I did. I don't know how long the entities were in / around him, but I suspect a good while seeing as I was physically steered away from him previously, and the ex he got with then (and had children with), ended up in a very bad way (and it could've been me). 

And yes, very hard to distinguish, I try not to get too attached to understanding / making sense of it all as it can draw me in which can be negative for me. I also think those realms are often beyond words (in my experience anyway), so not definable in my understanding of this physical world. For me, it's so subjective, and I can only try to understand my own subconscious / connection, it can 'present' very differently through someone else's filters / personal interpretations. Universal truth on the otherhand speak to us all (even if we don't want to hear!), and I find a lot of those in David's work, even if I don't agree with everything he says personally. Am looking forward to reading, 'The Trap' as I think it will resonate a lot with my own experience. 

And hope you get even an 'nth out of that dream book that I did / do - it was / is gently yet powerfully transformative (he's one of my favourite authors).

Edited February 19 by ewok

[ewok]

1 hour ago, RobinJ said:

From my experience I can say that the dark entities use your negative  high emotion moments to attach, particularly if you have started your spiritual journey and are at the beginning where you are learning your true nature. For me personally I didnt see them, it took over my emotions. Some people carry them their entire life and are manipulated entirely.

thank you for sharing that, RobinJ. It makes a lot of sense, and I relate to feeling emotions that aren't mine, and you've made me think about that in terms other than just picking up other people's stuff (am an empath). I certainly knew for a long time that I was psychically vulnerable, and read / did a lot of work around psychic self-defence / boundaries and protecting myself from the start and am very glad I did / do.

I hope you've overcome the entities that took over your emotions - it sounds like you have, as yes, you're right, some are completely unaware / manipulated, it's so sad. 

Do you have a sense of them? At times, I can be talking to someone, and it is as if someone else 'takes over' and it isn't the other person talking anymore. Often momentarily / not for long. I sense the 'shift', and can always see / confirm in the eyes, but I tend to not observe the eyes directly if I do at all (looking a little distance to the side of their face, but not for long), as it can be dangerous if it's sensed that I've picked up on it, as that will be taken as 'engagement' and tacit permission which I wish not to do.

I don't often observe complete shape shift change like I did with my ex, but maybe the deeper connection facilitated that.

[Malbec]

4 hours ago, RobinJ said:

From my experience I can say that the dark entities use your negative  high emotion moments to attach, particularly if you have started your spiritual journey and are at the beginning where you are learning your true nature. For me personally I didnt see them, it took over my emotions. Some people carry them their entire life and are manipulated entirely.

Wow this is really interesting for me at this current time. 

 

I'm also currently jostling with a few concepts, such as the ego/ mind / self and the soul. And how does the soul contract play out/ complete if indeed the ego or the mind is controlling the body or decisions etc. 

 

Thanks for the info. 

[RobinJ]

On 2/19/2023 at 9:40 AM, ewok said:

thank you for sharing that, RobinJ. It makes a lot of sense, and I relate to feeling emotions that aren't mine, and you've made me think about that in terms other than just picking up other people's stuff (am an empath). I certainly knew for a long time that I was psychically vulnerable, and read / did a lot of work around psychic self-defence / boundaries and protecting myself from the start and am very glad I did / do.

I hope you've overcome the entities that took over your emotions - it sounds like you have, as yes, you're right, some are completely unaware / manipulated, it's so sad. 

Do you have a sense of them? At times, I can be talking to someone, and it is as if someone else 'takes over' and it isn't the other person talking anymore. Often momentarily / not for long. I sense the 'shift', and can always see / confirm in the eyes, but I tend to not observe the eyes directly if I do at all (looking a little distance to the side of their face, but not for long), as it can be dangerous if it's sensed that I've picked up on it, as that will be taken as 'engagement' and tacit permission which I wish not to do.

I don't often observe complete shape shift change like I did with my ex, but maybe the deeper connection facilitated that.

Well yes i can still feel them but its changed now, more of an intuition thing as Im more plugged in to my true self / path/ purpose etc. I wouldnt allow one to get ahold of me again. If i sense bad stuff on someone I keep my distance or try help them see that they can be free IF they choose that path.

There are a LOT of people carrying dark ones around IMHO. I used to be one of those people a long time ago. 

I have been wondering of late if we are seeing and feeling more of these entities because our own planetary veil is breaking down, and as such, so too are the types of interpersonal communications we use are changing to fit our newer version thats coming. 

As an empath you are right to preserve your own sanity first! 

[ewok]

On 2/21/2023 at 3:33 AM, RobinJ said:

Well yes i can still feel them but its changed now, more of an intuition thing as Im more plugged in to my true self / path/ purpose etc. I wouldnt allow one to get ahold of me again. If i sense bad stuff on someone I keep my distance or try help them see that they can be free IF they choose that path.

There are a LOT of people carrying dark ones around IMHO. I used to be one of those people a long time ago. 

I have been wondering of late if we are seeing and feeling more of these entities because our own planetary veil is breaking down, and as such, so too are the types of interpersonal communications we use are changing to fit our newer version thats coming. 

As an empath you are right to preserve your own sanity first! 

Glad you are free, there are so many enslaved (n varying ways), you're right, and I was definitely more susceptible back then and I still have to work at it to stay un-susceptible as possible. It's such an insidious takeover.

I too help others if I can, but live my motto never to poke anyone's Shadow (unless am in a close personal relationship with someone, and there is that implicit agreement to support others development and we know and trust each other well enough to point out  blind / Shadow spots and support each other).

Am careful not to give too much (as can be my tendency), and I learn more from people's unspoken communication than their vocal. There are some people I just can't be around, but it is only when close that I get that sense - often / mostly I feel something in my eyes, like someone's twisting them up in their hand, and that's my cue to spiritually strengthen and exit their energy asap. 

I can feel other attacks (anything uninvited / without my consent, especially on a spiritual level), usually via a main chakra, and just do whatever reflect it back / detach it from myself. It has lessened as I've healed / progressed, but still sometimes I'll be susceptible. They usually come when I'm vulnerable, whether through illness, upset etc, it's like a bit of a magnet, but they never get too close (mostly) these days :D

I feel very lucky, as I was definitely on a path to being psychotic back then (and had a few months that would have been diagnosed as such for sure after breaking with that ex - but only found out post after I'd come through a very challenging breakdown). For me, there is healthy ways and unhealthy ways to navigate those realms, and if you're manipulated into an unhealthy way, or you're not strong enough / have vulnerabilities, it's very dangerous, as I found out. I have a much more grounded and boundaried connection these days, like you, to my true self and stay in my lane / on my path, and my relationship with those realms is much safer.

It's like that saying, 'the road gets narrower, but the horizon gets wider'. no idea where it's from, but I heard it years ago and it certainly bears out my experience. 

Not sure about the planetary veil breaking down, you've given me more food for thought...for me, that realm has always been there, and just as real now as it was back then (I'm just not repressing it - I did for a few years, but that was necessary for my sanity - but repressing caused it's own problems!), it's just my relationship with it that has changed. There's definitely a huge shift going on though.

[RobinJ]

Yes I do agree its always there, just that perhaps we have been so locked down by hypnotic methods that we had lost much of our guiding intuition which would usually allow us the see or feel these things.

The thing is that the more you open up to the spiritual side of things and choose to walk your correct path, the more you can really see or sense what is around you, bit of a double edged sword if you are not ready for it or dont know.

So many of the 'new age-ers'  seem to think all you do is meditate or do yoga and all will be well. Its utter bull of course. It takes a lot of work to rid yourself of all the deep down bad stuff and held onto trauma, but its so worth it. Ive met loads of so called spiritual people who are basket cases with lots of control issues or parental stuff they've not dealt with, rather just pretend that running away from it solves it. Nope. I tried that for years, doesnt work. You have to find a way to release that bad energy. Covid was the greatest excuse for me as my family had radically different views so it made it easier to break free. ( Wonder if the cabal thought that one through??) 

 Sometimes I think the dark ones just wait for an opportunity to leap on you as soon as you make yourself  emotionally open enough.