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Hi all, I luckily just found this amazing platform and my eyes have been opened.... Why is it that when I try to send articles and other alternative news regarding COVID friends and family are unwilling to look at it and heavily defend the vaccine? The answer is there will always be side effects. I really do not understand why people are'nt questioning more...... 

 

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I think the answer is not to be found in difficult times or in spiritual ideas ... the problem is the way people live their ordinary lives in normal times.  We all walk down the street together like cards in a pack, but we are the same, some are not alive inside and go through the motions hynpitcally ... others are alive and awake and making decisions.

In times of strife the true state of people is shown.

And in times of great strife even fewer are left.

Human beings are not in a good way, from what I understand in previous centuries they were better than today.

On "questioning" ... this is something people like to chat about.  They also like to chat about science.

But I tell you that if you turn your questioning into concrete answers suddenly you will find yourself with no friends.

And if your science is real and not just a headline ... likewise the room will get cold.

Because people are interest in neither, they simply like to chat, like to make no effort, they like it when things don't change, but they like to feel important and like they aren't losers ... so they chat about "important stuff".

 

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Not suggest anything wrong with your hashtag OP but just as way to express myself I posted some symbolic hashtag the other day (non-real afaik) on the forum just for showing my mood, like instead of an emoticon... 

 

Anyway,greetings, good topic..  

#feeling lost - equally says a lot on its own by how some people including me will feel that sometimes, like lost, ostracised by seemingly fascist sheep, or just nervous/fedup with narrow minded people in particular...

But look to the thread about ways of convincing others I would head toward... Will edit to post thread link later today.. 

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I had a thought about this GREAT PHRASE "cognitive dissonance" Just coz its so useful to say... And right as you posted that ITTT yeah it came to mind. :)  Just b/c my lexicon for words & phrases in conjunction with truth totally NEEDS these kind of wordings to explain how we are internally being affected.. Or those in denial like sheeple are being affected moreover. 

 

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I like the idea that I read in a book. I wish I could remember the title.

 

The author postulated three kinds of people :

 

Leaders, who had the strength of character,  the intelligence and the eloquence of voice that made people want to listen to him and adapt his ideas. They were capable of lateral thinking. Many of these were potential leaders themselves, but they all joined forces with him.

Followers, who instinctively knew  that the leaders were more capable than they and who had no desire to try to lead, they were happy to follow.

Others, These were people who had little social skills, not particularly bright, incapable of lateral thought and no power of speaking to the masses. Their problem was that although they knew deep down that they were incapable of leadership, they were reluctant to be followers, so they did everything possible to usurp the leaders in any way and try to foment trouble with the followers.

 

It does sound about right when you look around 

 

 

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Folks older than myself, seem to be more of the "cognitive dissonance" types, I've found. That's understandable. It's simply a form of shock. Not as fancy to say they are in shock, though. Well, shock and denial. But, the denial is more from disbelief. Some of us wacko conspiracy types have had some prior knowledge to some of this insanity. For a large majority, this is their first time experience. Hate to refer to the Matrix, but similar to Neo first getting unplugged then awakening on the ship.  

 

The younger folks, I've been thinking about recently. For many of them, this is their Elvis, Beatles, Woodstock, Hippies, Punk Rockers, etc. Quite a few generations have past without there really being anything solid to define it's generation of young folk. "Hipsters" are mere conglomerations of all things past. No major music revolutions or innovations. No real fashion trends that specifically identifies any generations after the 80's. In an odd way, this is our current teen/twenty-somethings generation's "thing".

 

I would wager that a great many of them, secretly, love this sh!t because of it being "their thing". Without even thinking of it in that way. Rather, they feel a sense of unity with their peers. Covering half of your face can be a cool and intimidating look, as well. Think of how many video games feature similarly masks characters. I recall seeing far more younger folks adapting to masks in my area PRIOR to any of the mandatory masks requirements.

 

Myself? I knew these days were coming, I only assumed I would be in my eighties, or so, by the time it began. Still, it's unbelievable and frightening. I am not optimistic, either. THEY are getting done what THEY want done, no matter what, at this time. 

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It's not a joke. But then again, it is. Only in it's absurdity.

 

The Spirit of Truth IS operating within this thing...The Truth Is Within...some are willing/able to express IT...the ego comprehends It not

 

The Real Jesus,(and others),, before the teachings were hijacked and twisted,,,Knew

 

ps; "artificial intelligence" is an oxymoron

Christian zionism is an oxymoron

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there is a long long long answer to this question...

 

here is a short version...

 

people have been lead to believe they are a shell of what they actually are - that shell is a lie, fragile, weak, untrustworthy, insufficient & needs governing externally.

 

the governing body become synonymous with their well-being. literally. & any threat to that - results in shellin up further.

 

its like being in an abusive relationship - everyone on the outside can see its unhealthy - but lead to believe you are dependant on the abuser - you will defend them at all costs & refuse to even look at the actuality for fear of what it may implicate.

 

this all occurs in the psyche.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, ThunderFace said:

there is a long long long answer to this question...

 

here is a short version...

 

people have been lead to believe they are a shell of what they actually are - that shell is a lie, fragile, weak, untrustworthy, insufficient & needs governing externally.

 

the governing body become synonymous with their well-being. literally. & any threat to that - results in shellin up further.

 

its like being in an abusive relationship - everyone on the outside can see its unhealthy - but lead to believe you are dependant on the abuser - you will defend them at all costs & refuse to even look at the actuality for fear of what it may implicate.

 

this all occurs in the psyche.

 

 

 

getting into your psyche is going to be easy but not going to be taken lightly by you because you are never wrong. everybody else is that shell is a lie, fragile, weak, untrustworthy, insufficient & needs governing externally. in your mind. what I'm about to tell you is not a nice way i go about my life as i care for people. and i like to help. your disorder is that shell is a lie, fragile, weak, untrustworthy, insufficient & needs governing externally that you fear in being a narcissist

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a narcissist will never apologize or take responsibility for there actions. they will take as much attention and play the victim. deep down they want your life to feel shit makes them happy knowing your life is shit. narcissist big hate is when you call them out and you much more bigger smarter than they are lol.

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project alot dont you?

 

i am wrong often.

 

you seem to be the one having trouble admitting error.

 

instead you've followed & replied to me in what? 3-4 different threads now? with passive aggressive effeminate replies tryna maintain this nice guy act.

 

you have no clue what actual Care is.

 

also...try being more coherant.

 

dont be suprised to not get any more attention from me.

 

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narcissist big hate is when you call them out and you much more bigger smarter than they are lol.

 

lmaooo could you be any more transparent.

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, ThunderFace said:

project alot dont you?

 

i am wrong often.

 

you seem to be the one having trouble admitting error.

 

instead you've followed & replied to me in what? 3-4 different threads now? with passive aggressive effeminate replies tryna maintain this nice guy act.

 

you have no clue what actual Care is.

 

also...try being more coherant.

 

dont be suprised to not get any more attention from me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

BINGO!

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8 hours ago, ThunderFace said:

people have been lead to believe they are a shell of what they actually are - that shell is a lie, fragile, weak, untrustworthy, insufficient & needs governing externally.

 

True, but because people have been raised like this they have not grown into anything, so someone might then say ... I don't want authority I can do anything and rush out and fall on their face, or invent weird ideas.   And that's the situation, people respond to this society either by being sheep or considering themselves above anything demanding revolution and coming up with all sorts of unnatural ideas. Equality tolerance and fing freedom and choice, noduality and emptiness.   All this is shit.

 

You should have raised to understand the laws of life and how life works and then do your part of it.  There are rules.

And that is very difficult to put back.  Because it is learning how to live properly normally.

 

So we have been well and truly lied to and f'ed up and only a brave person will attempt to re-learn the real way to live, honestly and to progressively learn a trade or skill, and grow slowly, and develop into a reasonably good person with his own talents, and value it and contribute from your acquired earned knowledge.

 

And ignore both those who wish you to be sheeple ...and the other sheeple who wish you to be equal free space cadets, because they are just the nobodies.

 

Not completely relevant but ...

 

 

 

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