the world using covid to control population

[nathan1974au]

i believe this is an planed virus to eliminate population. china's failed. brazils is winning! i think there is more to come. and the feelings boil down to NEW WORLD ORDER in evolvement. Russia is gearing up for some reason. what do you guys think!

 

Edited April 6, 2021 by nathan1974au

[Mikheil]

5 hours ago, nathan1974au said:

i believe this is an planed virus to eliminate population. china's failed. brazils is winning! i think there is more to come. and the feelings boil down to NEW WORLD ORDER in evolvement. Russia is gearing up for some reason. what do you guys think!

 

The entire game is about depopulation. All the major players are involved with Gates, Eugenics and Jews. On the plus side, it's going to kill off the morons who fall for it, but will there be enough of us left to put up REAL resistance and by that, I DO NOT mean 'peaceful protests'. It will be all out guerrilla warfare.

 

All you can do is get fit, and get ready. It isn't far away.

[Shining-one]

I have to disagree. I always regarded conspiracy theories with skepticism. Here's why in this case:
Every single government would have to be persuaded to go along with a plan to depopulate their territories. Now, the fact the Slavic and Russian populations span into serious decline after the fall of the USSR was of major concern to Putin. Putinism made every effort to restore the armed forces and increase living standards. It's most definitely not typical of Putin to be persuaded to lower the population even more. In fact, we're more than ever at the edge of WW3 due to the conflict with NATO.
Add to that the Sputnik vaccine is likewise a point of economic competition. Here there is no co-operation whatsoever.
We can look at many other countries from Japan to Chile. All of them would have had to miraculously agree to a secret plot and be convinced it was a viable alternative. Personally I very much doubt it Especially in light of the fact State security has been infiltrated by hackers - huge data bases in the USA accessed.
If such a plot existed, there would be dissidents, assasinations and whisteblowers.
So, what is it?
My good guess is the biological virus exists but has been gradually exaggerated through mass hysteria and social delusion. It started off as "a problem" but is now a global religion. It's the classic fairy tale of the king's invisible suit. How clever people think they are when claiming only they can distinguish the genius of a suit that makes a man only seem naked. Likewise I don't believe Merkel struts about in her muzzle because she wants to fool the German voters into population control. She actually believes in the Covid religion.
This is all pretty much identical to the mass hysteria over witchcraft that swept Europe. Right down to the bogus tests, social ignorance and manipulation by profiteers.
Sure, drug corporations are milking the fear to make profit. And that is criminally immoral as well as downright dangerous. Specifically why they can collectively stuff their experimental vaccine in the most appropriate place.

[Shining-one]

Ironically, the only depopulation conspiracy I could view as logical would be the most extreme variant. Such as sublimal messaging which we know does work. This is data that only the subconscious can read but not the senses. Theoretically it could work if used by one country. Mass suggestion.
However, a huge handshaken meeting of governments I personally view as pretty improbable.

[Ed8]

46 minutes ago, Shining-one said:

Every single government would have to be persuaded to go along with a plan to depopulate their territories. 

Is that such a stretch? Every single country has so far gone along with harmful lockdowns, economic destruction, masks, unnecessary vaccines; despite all evidence against such measures. Those leaders that haven't gone along with it are vilified or dead (Magufuli).

 

A cursory look at Bill Gates' twitter timeline tells you he only cares about two things - vaccines and climate change. In his view, for a sustainable planet, we need less people consuming fewer resources. The only logical aim of all this crap is depopulation, one way or another.

[Mikheil]

11 minutes ago, Ed8 said:

Is that such a stretch? Every single country has so far gone along with harmful lockdowns, economic destruction, masks, unnecessary vaccines; despite all evidence against such measures. Those leaders that haven't gone along with it are vilified or dead (Magufuli).

 

A cursory look at Bill Gates' twitter timeline tells you he only cares about two things - vaccines and climate change. In his view, for a sustainable planet, we need less people consuming fewer resources. The only logical aim of all this crap is depopulation, one way or another.

Remember the Russian vaccines are NOT mRNA, Putin is no fool, they came up with a normal 'flu vaccine, probably developed from SARS in 2003. He isn't injecting his people with something that may well sterilize or kill them. He knows that the USA, the UK and the EU will never take a Russian vaccine, so he can offer it to any of the other countries and make money for his country.

 

Leaders of non-USA, UK, EU countries believe what the WHO and the CDC tell them to believe. They aren't scientists, so they go along, BUT many of them are going with the Russian vaccine. In a similar way, China would never offer their people a vaccine that may sterilize or kill them. The are also selling it to other countries without fear of the ISA, UK or EU ever accepting it.

 

Now Bill Gates owns the CDC, the FDA, the NIH and the WHO, not to mention most of the media. Bill Gates isn't interested in Climate change or vaccines or the health of people. He is interested in one thing MONEY. His father, Boris' father, Bill Gates are into depopulation. It's a Jew thing. Soros hates the USA, the UK and anything in the EU that he can't control. He wants to populate the world with mongrels, so that the only White people left are fellow Jews.

 

Look at the Government in the USA and the UK and most of the EU, the majority are Jews.

 

So I believe there IS a conspiracy to depopulate the planet, but thanks to Russia and China, it's backfired to some extent. The morons in the USA. UK and EU are sheep being led to the slaughterhouse. but China and Russia are not going down that path.

 

That leaves only one option, - war with Russia and China. The EU (NATO) and the UK can't wait to send off the young people to the battlefield. It will start with conventional warfare and the some asshole in either the USA or NATD will go nuclear. This is why America and the UK plus NATO are supporting the Ukraine and Taiwan. It's shades of WWII all over.

 

When the dust settles, there will be no more America, no more UK and very little of Europe left. Gates and the Cabal, will all be in their rabbit holes miles underground and they believe that when they come out, they can turn any left into their slaves. It will depend on how much of Russia and China are left.

 

Not only do I believe in a major depopulation conspiracy, I firmly believe that we stand on the brink of WW 3 and I'm 80 years old, but I believe it will happen in my lifetime.

[CrowintheSnow]

It's all about the vaccine and social control I think. How else could anyone propose getting (whatever is in the vaccines) into the whole world's population? No one would be interested enough unless....something akin to the Plague descended on our world.

So they found/created? an unusual highly contagious coronavirus (like many colds only with a bit more of an edge) and ramped up the fear.

 

I feel something has to be going on beyond "fighting a pandemic", and the reason I come to that conclusion is because of the utter base stupidity of governments in their approach to this "health threat". I honestly could not believe what I was hearing re: their management strategies in 2020.

 

Bearing in mind these numbskulls called politicians had to be taking advice from scientists, I honestly couldn't believe the utter stupidity of the scientific advice either (or which parts of it were released to the media anyway) It all sounded like the Mad Hatter's Tea Party.

 

That's when I became suspicious of some agenda. How could they all be this dumb....??

[nathan1974au]

it is a very controversial situation which is out of our control for sure.  

Edited April 7, 2021 by nathan1974au

[Mr M]

The ruling elites decided that, for whatever reason, we needed a war. Wars have always been useful tools of the elites, they enable social control, misdirect disaffection away from themselves and onto an external threat and they even get to make a massive profit on the side from exploiting the conflict for material gain. When/if wars end we never entirely get back all the freedoms we lost along the way.

 

But Covid is just a disease, it isn't a war? Sure it is. The response to the pandemic has all the trappings of a war. We have the external threat to our very lives (the virus), the mass loss of life (elderly not the youth), the glorious fighters on the frontline we cheer and clap for (nurses and doctors, not soldiers). We also have the unrelenting state propaganda, the sombre press conferences with the dour faced government spokesmen and their morbid death statistics. We have the 'I've done my bit for the cause' vaccines and the nasty, disruptive enemy within (anti-vaxxers).

 

It's war, they wanted it and they gave to us it.

Edited April 7, 2021 by Mr M

[Mikheil]

3 hours ago, Mr M said:

The ruling elites decided that, for whatever reason, we needed a war. Wars have always been useful tools of the elites, they enable social control, misdirect disaffection away from themselves and onto an external threat and they even get to make a massive profit on the side from exploiting the conflict for material gain. When/if wars end we never entirely get back all the freedoms we lost along the way.

 

But Covid is just a disease, it isn't a war? Sure it is. The response to the pandemic has all the trappings of a war. We have the external threat to our very lives (the virus), the mass loss of life (elderly not the youth), the glorious fighters on the frontline we cheer and clap for (nurses and doctors, not soldiers). We also have the unrelenting state propaganda, the sombre press conferences with the dour faced government spokesmen and their morbid death statistics. We have the 'I've done my bit for the cause' vaccines and the nasty, disruptive enemy within (anti-vaxxers).

 

It's war, they wanted it and they gave to us it.

There's the real one on the near horizon!

[rideforever]

The Western economy relies on overpopulation and increasing population, because inside the culture it is deeply sick.  They have been selling the silver spoons, printing money, desperately trying to make the economy work ... cheap labour is necessary, and more people means more GDP.

The entire thing is a ponzi scheme, and inside the heartwood is dying.  There is absolutely no way that there is a depopulation agenda.  That would require somebody to take responsibility, and they ain't doing it.

What the future is will be collapse, economic or political, and then a sort of prison state and Solent Green situation, people eating Spirulina pills.

The society as it is ... it is too big and with Amazon, Google, Apple destroying whole regions of the economy ... we live in a Palm Oil Plantation which does not support much life.  It replaces a permaculture society.

There is no Light coming into the West, it has been murdered, from within and without.

Without Light everything is going to die.

And btw every part of the Earth is becoming like the West, so ... the overall situation could be .... all over for everyone.

Whatever insanity is coming, from 400 genders, to ... well who knows. 

You are best off entering the path in any tradition at all, and working hard because your time is limited, as it always was.

Whatever is happening today, well they will brush Covid off by summer ... but ... everything will be much more expensive in the shops, the insanity will grow, the misery will grow.

What future ?
Nothing and nobody is coming because the one thing they will not do is the only thing that would make any difference which is going back to church.

 

Edited April 7, 2021 by rideforever

[Shining-one]

Fortunately, I specialise in psychology and neurology. Specifically in the area of schizophrenic, schizoid and hysteria-based neurological disorders. I read the best German sources on this subject over some years. I can pretty much recognise hysteria in people and see it staring me in the face every day. I'm amazed hardly any other psychologists seem unaware of this.
Hysterical thought processes discard logic and rely upon basic instincts. They filter out contrasting, factual information and make use of random associations. The fear is transmitted in waves from person to person, community to community, country to country. Plus, we now have the internet. The 16th century witch delusion lacked this means to spread more fear and delusion.
You can see hysteria take shape even prior to Covid. The Russian menace, for example. Logical question: Why do these Russian hackers or poisoners all seem to be from Russia, but not Ukraine, Belarus, Latvia or Lithuania? My point? These other territories have thousands of ethnic Russians and yet, not a single hacker, spy or poisoner is said to be connected to other territories. Here's why: Association based on hysteria filters out logic and insists, hacking=menace=Russia. As a literal, packaged conception.
And then, Covid.
As stated, I believe the virus is factual but possibly 70 per cent of reported cases are psychosomatic. Just like migraine. So often I hear the familiar, "Covid's no joke, my mate's just had it." Later, I find the person referred to (like so many) is a hyperchondriac. Everywhere you see them, stepping back, spraying their hands, recoiling and driving their own vehicle muzzled. Here, we are talking psychological disorder, reactive, delusional, psychogenic symptoms. A massive, global mental breakdown. And, of course, there are those willing to exploit the fear to sell vaccines or take away democratic freedoms.
It amazes me that with such in depth studies into mass hysteria, mostly of German origen, hardly any so-called psychologists have spoken publically. I suspect most have been trained in company management and not clinical psychology.

[Shining-one]

To add, it seems like a planned conspiracy because heads of State blindly follow the "advice of the experts".
What does Boris Johnson know about biology, for heaven's sake? His degree was Classics and Latin. Such people may easily be fooled into blindly following the most unscientific advice. Such as the absurd idea we can hide from bacteria altogether and come out healthier in the long term.
I really think the tale of the king in his invisible suit of clothes applies here more than at any time in history. It looks like a conspiracy because heads of state seek to show how clever they are following "the advice of experts." Not one dares to state the obvious, that people who wear facemasks will die an early death like Michael Jackson. Nobody wants to say the king really is naked.

[Mikheil]

20 minutes ago, Shining-one said:

To add, it seems like a planned conspiracy because heads of State blindly follow the "advice of the experts".
What does Boris Johnson know about biology, for heaven's sake? His degree was Classics and Latin. Such people may easily be fooled into blindly following the most unscientific advice. Such as the absurd idea we can hide from bacteria altogether and come out healthier in the long term.
I really think the tale of the king in his invisible suit of clothes applies here more than at any time in history. It looks like a conspiracy because heads of state seek to show how clever they are following "the advice of experts." Not one dares to state the obvious, that people who wear facemasks will die an early death like Michael Jackson. Nobody wants to say the king really is naked.

You should try to find all the articles and books that Stanley Johnson (Boris' dad) wrote about eugenics and population reduction. THEN tell me Boris doesn't know what is going on. 

[Shining-one]

Many ways to test this theory. Such as checking the political backgrounds of global heads of State, from Argentina to Holland. Would they all agree to a conspiracy?
Above all, data taken from young mothers. We would need very high percentages of failed births. This would not take long to put together.
To be honest I find it stretches things a bit to accept not a single politician wouldn't say, "Sorry, but I can't agree to culling the population in my country."
And not a single whistle blower? I mean, over Iraq one scientist we presume was assasinated. And back then there was major friction between The EU and US over ethical considerations.
Here, though, there is no friction. The theory holds that every single government agreed to a depopulation plan. Even considering in some states Boris Johnson is about as popular as a boil on an elephant's backside.
Guess we'll have to wait and see if population does fall. Side effects more likely, I think. Of course, nobody knows for sure.

[The Old Knight]

On 4/6/2021 at 10:23 PM, Mikheil said:

Remember the Russian vaccines are NOT mRNA, Putin is no fool, they came up with a normal 'flu vaccine, probably developed from SARS in 2003. He isn't injecting his people with something that may well sterilize or kill them.

 

Sputnik V is an adenovirus vector vaccine.

 

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352304217300272#fig1

[Mikheil]

9 hours ago, Shining-one said:

Many ways to test this theory. Such as checking the political backgrounds of global heads of State, from Argentina to Holland. Would they all agree to a conspiracy?
Above all, data taken from young mothers. We would need very high percentages of failed births. This would not take long to put together.
To be honest I find it stretches things a bit to accept not a single politician wouldn't say, "Sorry, but I can't agree to culling the population in my country."
And not a single whistle blower? I mean, over Iraq one scientist we presume was assasinated. And back then there was major friction between The EU and US over ethical considerations.
Here, though, there is no friction. The theory holds that every single government agreed to a depopulation plan. Even considering in some states Boris Johnson is about as popular as a boil on an elephant's backside.
Guess we'll have to wait and see if population does fall. Side effects more likely, I think. Of course, nobody knows for sure.

Even considering in some states Boris Johnson is about as popular as a boil on an elephant's backside

 

But he will be re-elected by the morons for his 'expert' handling of the deadly(?) Covid crisis. What a fucking JOKE!

[nathan1974au]

the hardest part is being sane in a mad world. this covid has changed people. there more to come thank god I'm half way through life.. it's hard to get right down to the point. but i do know soon Australian government will make it compulsory vax  knowing most are on welfare giving then no choice in a game of roulette over dole money for sure! but most of the things are out of our control we can only watch. 

Edited April 8, 2021 by nathan1974au

[nathan1974au]

16 hours ago, Mikheil said:

You should try to find all the articles and books that Stanley Johnson (Boris' dad) wrote about eugenics and population reduction. THEN tell me Boris doesn't know what is going on. 

England was notorious for killing population back in the 1700's and back you stole a loaf of bread you got hung for it.. that's why you have Australia and Canada, America, west India etc filled by exporting prisoners' and free settlers to free England from over population. well that's not happening now. they have to do a different method.  

[nathan1974au]

On 4/7/2021 at 9:34 PM, Mr M said:

The ruling elites decided that, for whatever reason, we needed a war. Wars have always been useful tools of the elites, they enable social control, misdirect disaffection away from themselves and onto an external threat and they even get to make a massive profit on the side from exploiting the conflict for material gain. When/if wars end we never entirely get back all the freedoms we lost along the way.

 

But Covid is just a disease, it isn't a war? Sure it is. The response to the pandemic has all the trappings of a war. We have the external threat to our very lives (the virus), the mass loss of life (elderly not the youth), the glorious fighters on the frontline we cheer and clap for (nurses and doctors, not soldiers). We also have the unrelenting state propaganda, the sombre press conferences with the dour faced government spokesmen and their morbid death statistics. We have the 'I've done my bit for the cause' vaccines and the nasty, disruptive enemy within (anti-vaxxers).

 

It's war, they wanted it and they gave to us it.

could be a never ending one sadly

[Shining-one]

One failing in a conspiracy theory is perhaps "the unexpected".
An actual war is looming in the Ukraine. This war has been going on for quite some time. It was assumed Russia would fragment as a country but gradually it rebuilt its military infrastructure. Crimea is of the utmost importance to Russia militarily. Ukraine is being pushed into creating a conflict. Of course, as Gorbachev repeatedly warned the world is in real danger of a full blown war. The communication lines are neither all that good.
Nobody can predict if such a war could happen by mistake or miscalculation. Such circumstances are beyond control.

[Mr H]

On 4/6/2021 at 11:41 AM, nathan1974au said:

i believe this is an planed virus to eliminate population. china's failed. brazils is winning! i think there is more to come. and the feelings boil down to NEW WORLD ORDER in evolvement. Russia is gearing up for some reason. what do you guys think!

 

I do not rule out depopulation. But if you look at hard evidence, this thesis from what I have seen is a bit thin on the ground.

 

If you look at history, most of these scams is about money. And there is an old saying follow the money.

 

Vaccines are a money making racket. Sales go into perpetuity, low cost, don't have to spend a lot on testing because testing is relatively low compared to other drugs, capped liability and the pharma industry was in financial trouble prior to this crisis.

 

This is one angle.

 

The other angle is the tactics and means of lockdown. This ensures that productive small businesses close. It ensures people are unemployed. Both of which means that people are more reliant on the state.

 

The lack of productivity means that to stimulate the economy the government has to print money. Excessive money printing devalues the currency. Which to the normal person means that it destroys their wealth - meaning they are even more dependent on the state. It also means the rich get richer, because in an inflationary environment, real assets go up and the rich have their wealth in real assets. Inflation also in real terms allows the government to "pay back" what they printed and balance the books.

 

In conclusion it's a wealth grab designed to enslave the population imo.

[Mikhail Liebestein]

On 4/6/2021 at 8:55 PM, Shining-one said:

I have to disagree. I always regarded conspiracy theories with skepticism. Here's why in this case:
Every single government would have to be persuaded to go along with a plan to depopulate their territories. Now, the fact the Slavic and Russian populations span into serious decline after the fall of the USSR was of major concern to Putin. Putinism made every effort to restore the armed forces and increase living standards. It's most definitely not typical of Putin to be persuaded to lower the population even more. In fact, we're more than ever at the edge of WW3 due to the conflict with NATO.
Add to that the Sputnik vaccine is likewise a point of economic competition. Here there is no co-operation whatsoever.
We can look at many other countries from Japan to Chile. All of them would have had to miraculously agree to a secret plot and be convinced it was a viable alternative. Personally I very much doubt it Especially in light of the fact State security has been infiltrated by hackers - huge data bases in the USA accessed.
If such a plot existed, there would be dissidents, assasinations and whisteblowers.
So, what is it?
My good guess is the biological virus exists but has been gradually exaggerated through mass hysteria and social delusion. It started off as "a problem" but is now a global religion. It's the classic fairy tale of the king's invisible suit. How clever people think they are when claiming only they can distinguish the genius of a suit that makes a man only seem naked. Likewise I don't believe Merkel struts about in her muzzle because she wants to fool the German voters into population control. She actually believes in the Covid religion.
This is all pretty much identical to the mass hysteria over witchcraft that swept Europe. Right down to the bogus tests, social ignorance and manipulation by profiteers.
Sure, drug corporations are milking the fear to make profit. And that is criminally immoral as well as downright dangerous. Specifically why they can collectively stuff their experimental vaccine in the most appropriate place.

 

Yes, your view aligns with mine.

Essentially this is just a bad flu season, and may be China has some bad hygiene practices.

But what caused the real issue was the mix of official Chinese denial; mixed in with exaggerated stories of deaths in the streets, missing phone subscribers and funeral urns.

The Governments in the west bought this hook line and sinker.

 

[nathan1974au]

conspiracy's are constructed on speculation it's not the truth but it's more of an instinct or a feeling. I'm not going to set out and stop peoples free speech on what i think because every body is unique where life is wonderful to see each person seeing the world in different aspects. that is the part of life i love

[ThunderFace]

58 minutes ago, nathan1974au said:

conspiracy's are constructed on speculation it's not the truth but it's more of an instinct or a feeling. I'm not going to set out and stop peoples free speech on what i think because every body is unique where life is wonderful to see each person seeing the world in different aspects. that is the part of life i love

 

the fuck are you talking about?

 

four people off the top of my head; david icke, mark passio, michael tsarion, jordan maxwell - have all done an insurmountable amount of work uncovering conspiracies grounded in facts.

 

stating "conspiracys" are based of instinct or feelings is legit some of the most ignorant shit ive read on this site. & that's saying something.

 

do not project your own mental lethargy on people who have real courage & put in real work, real fuckin effort, with veracity towards uncovering what actually goes on on this planet.

 

you sound like a brain washed new age fuck with no substance.