InfiniteMe Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 Why? Because the lesson it teaches will affect how you Learn and Remember for the rest of your life! Illustration: "The Circle in the Sand." Imagine sitting on a beach and you decide to take your finger and draw a Circle in the Sand. Why will this circle in the sand eventually fade away? Most people realize that over time the wind and the rain will cause this circle to completely disappear. This illustrate the way we learn and remember. In just 24 hours most people will only be able to remember 60% of what they read for the first time. In just 48 hours most people will only be able to remember 40% of what they read for the first time. When you read something for the first time, when you initially "touch" information, it's like taking your finger and drawing a "circle in the sand." If you never revisit the information, if you never retouch the what you learn, the memory of what you were taught will gradually fade away. (This is what happens when you read David's books only once.) What if you took your finger and went around the same circle in the sand a second time? Because the circle is now deeper, it will remain longer than the first one. That's what happens when you "touch" the information a second time. That's what happens when you read David's book a second time. (You will also see things you missed the first time.) (Examples of doing this are Underlining or yellow marking important statements as you read David's book the second time.) What if your finger drew a circle in cement? The wind and the rain would have no effect. Why? Because the circle in now PERMANENT! The lesson? If you "touch" what you read enough times, it will become a permanent part of your memory. Therefore a "simple discipline" is to always "touch" important information at least twice. If you want to never forget something you read, the "simple discipline" is to touch the information as often as you can. Last thought: Telling other people and meditating on the material of David's book is another tremendous aid to remembering what you read. That's what 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rideforever Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 What is the difference between ... somebody who reads books about mountain climbing ... and somebody who goes mountain climbing? You can "touch information" from your books with pretty pictures. You can "touch information" twice and underline it in yellow pen. This information you read in the book can become permanent. But the fact you call it "information" means it is just garbage. It is not knowledge, it is not wisdom, it is not experience and it is not REAL. It is just pictures from the book that you memorised because you never had the balls to take a risk and see the world with your own eyes and body and climb. To climb is to face nature, face life, face yourself. To breathe fresh white mountain air, to strain your thighs, and to graze your ankles and bleed onto the rocks, to be cold, tired, to be tough ... Or do you want to lie in your bedroom and read "information" ? This is dying whilst living. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 5 hours ago, InfiniteMe said: Why? Because the lesson it teaches will affect how you Learn and Remember for the rest of your life! Illustration: "The Circle in the Sand." Imagine sitting on a beach and you decide to take your finger and draw a Circle in the Sand. Why will this circle in the sand eventually fade away? Most people realize that over time the wind and the rain will cause this circle to completely disappear. This illustrate the way we learn and remember. In just 24 hours most people will only be able to remember 60% of what they read for the first time. In just 48 hours most people will only be able to remember 40% of what they read for the first time. When you read something for the first time, when you initially "touch" information, it's like taking your finger and drawing a "circle in the sand." If you never revisit the information, if you never retouch the what you learn, the memory of what you were taught will gradually fade away. (This is what happens when you read David's books only once.) What if you took your finger and went around the same circle in the sand a second time? Because the circle is now deeper, it will remain longer than the first one. That's what happens when you "touch" the information a second time. That's what happens when you read David's book a second time. (You will also see things you missed the first time.) (Examples of doing this are Underlining or yellow marking important statements as you read David's book the second time.) What if your finger drew a circle in cement? The wind and the rain would have no effect. Why? Because the circle in now PERMANENT! The lesson? If you "touch" what you read enough times, it will become a permanent part of your memory. Therefore a "simple discipline" is to always "touch" important information at least twice. If you want to never forget something you read, the "simple discipline" is to touch the information as often as you can. Last thought: Telling other people and meditating on the material of David's book is another tremendous aid to remembering what you read. That's what Welcome to the forum, and thanks for that insightful analogy. 4 hours ago, rideforever said: What is the difference between ... somebody who reads books about mountain climbing ... and somebody who goes mountain climbing? You can "touch information" from your books with pretty pictures. You can "touch information" twice and underline it in yellow pen. This information you read in the book can become permanent. But the fact you call it "information" means it is just garbage. It is not knowledge, it is not wisdom, it is not experience and it is not REAL. It is just pictures from the book that you memorised because you never had the balls to take a risk and see the world with your own eyes and body and climb. To climb is to face nature, face life, face yourself. To breathe fresh white mountain air, to strain your thighs, and to graze your ankles and bleed onto the rocks, to be cold, tired, to be tough ... Or do you want to lie in your bedroom and read "information" ? This is dying whilst living. Oh come on, please try and lighten up a little, is this any way to greet a new member here? Well, yes of course there is a big difference between reading books about mountain climbing, and actually going mountain climbing for yourself. That is not the point I think the OP is trying to make here. Its about 'learning' and understanding. Yes, I agree that some things can be best learnt and understood by doing them for yourselves. Knowledge and wisdom isn't always equivalent to experience. Reading about the true nature of reality, or about the global conspiracy, is a different kettle of fish to mountain climbing. I also agree that David Icke's books have a lot for the reader to take in. I myself have read a few now from start to finish, and I actually do mean to go back and reread a couple of them again. While there is a lot that I have already 'learned', there is no harm in going back and reading again, in case there was anything that I missed or didn't pick up on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rideforever Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 13 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said: Reading about the true nature of reality, or about the global conspiracy, is a different kettle of fish to mountain climbing. Well sorry didn't see he was a new member, I could have been more welcoming. But, I think you are quite wrong about what you say here. ALL knowledge must involve more than the mind. An engineer must learn through the phsyical and emotional world. The tree must be used together mental-emotional-physical, only in this way is your understanding Real. And that is exactly why any knowledge at all exists, because some people did that. For instance Newton did alchemical physical experiments, and with his experiments with light he didn't just read them he had glass cut and create prisms ... and of course he was a Catholic and a powerful one. This is a good model. The world is full of Babel ... the internet and phones ... all these people "sharing information" from their underpants and comfortable sofas. This is going nowhere, this is undoing your intelligence. And you can see it ... from those who buy silly rucksacks with mountain climbing straps or 4W drive tanks to take the kids to school. Maybe the problem is a lack of confidence. If you want it ... then make it real and go do it and burn those books. This is life. Looking back you will see all the talk and books are death. And as for Religion same thing, all knowledge has the same rules, religion is as physical as it is emotional and mental. That's a hard rule. Why? It is because we experience 3 separate planes of data : mental-emotional-physical. They are actually 3 separate worlds. And by using the 3 together we triangulate reality. So just talking is just wasting time. But of course getting off the arse requires inspirations ... but once you are out there you feel alive and know what's what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteMe Posted April 3, 2021 Author Share Posted April 3, 2021 20 hours ago, rideforever said: What is the difference between ... somebody who reads books about mountain climbing ... and somebody who goes mountain climbing? You can "touch information" from your books with pretty pictures. You can "touch information" twice and underline it in yellow pen. This information you read in the book can become permanent. But the fact you call it "information" means it is just garbage. It is not knowledge, it is not wisdom, it is not experience and it is not REAL. It is just pictures from the book that you memorised because you never had the balls to take a risk and see the world with your own eyes and body and climb. To climb is to face nature, face life, face yourself. To breathe fresh white mountain air, to strain your thighs, and to graze your ankles and bleed onto the rocks, to be cold, tired, to be tough ... Or do you want to lie in your bedroom and read "information" ? This is dying whilst living. You state in your reply that "information" means it is just garbage. David has many times said everything begins "by information received." Then he says information received leads to "perception" which leads to "behavior." So I guess that means David is feeding us a lot of what you call "garbage". I don't think so.. You should really be careful when you send the kind of reply you did to my post. It was INSULTING. But like David's information has taught me. "Love is the only truth, everything else it just an illusion". Which means I still Love You Grumpy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rideforever Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 @InfiniteMe You love me because somebody says you should do it? I don't think that is a good reason. Why don't you just be honest, if you hate then just hate. Only when you begin with honesty can something good happen. That's how it works, but people are very afraid to be honest, they prefer to say they love everyone. But how will that work? It is like you have a long of dirty washing to do but instead of admitting it is dirty you pretend it is clean. Many people live like this, I don't know why. Perhaps they are afraid of being themselves, when you start to feel strong emotions inside it is easy to put the lid back on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluke Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 5 hours ago, rideforever said: Why don't you just be honest, if you hate then just hate. Problem with that rideforever is I knew a bloke like this once. He ended up bitter, hateful, resentful, miserable, condescending with a frightful air of superiority. He also struggled with projection. He made sure he spoke in a manner that was ferociously arrogant. Eddie his name was. Problem is he didn't have the charm or the charisma or the talent to back it up. We all knew the true nature of little Eddie. A toxic deliquent. Not to be recommended. Life's too short. I'd surer put the saddle on the horse say 'ok' and trot off. That's a nice Zen response right there. You shouldn't love everyone though. That's the Christian mindset. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rideforever Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 @Fluke Yes that's true, Eddie was caught in some patterns, habitual, and wasn't being honest ... if you are unconscious you can't be honest. So there are many things to learn and we are in this world because we have many things to learn. There are no absolute rules about how you should act. I said that if you are honest and you hate then you should hate ... but only if this is honest. If it's habitual then it's as useless as anything habitual. Most people simply "behave", never taking any risks to discover what they feel and they die without having really expressed their soul, ... they were too scared. If you stand back and see how petrified all of humanity is ... how they live fake lives behaving, it is a deeply sad and undignified sight. This is how the world dies not with a bang but a whimper. Human beings are in a bad way, not because they aren't well behaved ... because all they are is a well behaved fictitious self. And they will become extinct like this. In the real feelings real heart is power, magic, force, lightning, love, fucking, and god. Many great sages and shattered their students shocked them smacked them ... because otherwise they will die. Humans have very much damaged themselves. There are fields of crops that die, and we are such a field, if we continue like this we have no god given right to continue. One of the most terrifying things is that in the last 10,000 years the human brain has shrunk by 10-15% since CroMagnon man. That should terrify you. And it will continue. As my teacher says, when you sit in meditation you should remember that your life is at stake, because it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 3 hours ago, rideforever said: Yes that's true, Eddie was caught in some patterns, habitual, and wasn't being honest Wow, what an amazing coincidence....!!! You knew Eddie too ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rideforever Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 8 hours ago, Basket Case said: Wow, what an amazing coincidence....!!! You knew Eddie too ? You are also caught in some patterns because I know you too ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 3 hours ago, rideforever said: You are also caught in some patterns because I know you too ! You know nothing. But the funny thing is that you don't realise.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommydrifter Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 hello everybody ----- what i have learned is that when searching for the truth it is difficult to find truthful sources of information and there are very few people who are talking sense. if you are not discerning you can waste your life learning nonsense from misinformants and disinformants. as far as i can trust my perceptions, there are only a few handfuls of people (that i know of) who have grasped the situation we are in. remember that we are in an information war and that clear insight should your goal. ----- have a great day everybody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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