NO MORE LOCKDOWNS: Britain will treat Covid like flu - Chris Whitty

[Seconal]

Lockdowns are unlikely to be needed again as Britain learns to treat coronavirus like flu, Prof Chris Whitty has said.

 

The chief medical officer said that up to 25,000 people die in a bad flu year without anyone noticing and that accepting some Covid deaths would be the price of keeping schools and business open and allowing people to live a "whole life".

 

Prof Whitty, speaking on a Royal School of Medicine webinar, said the Government would only be forced to "pull the alarm cord" if a dangerous variant arrived, against which people had no immunity and which sparked exponential growth.

 

"Covid is not going to go away," he said. "You've got to work out what's a rational policy to this and here I would differentiate quite a lot between a pandemic environment and what you get with seasonal flu.

 

"Every year, somewhere between 7,000 and 9,000 citizens die of flu, most of them very elderly, and every few years you get a bad flu year where 20,000 to 25,000 die of it. The last time we had that was three years ago and no one noticed it.

 

"So it is clear we are going to have to manage it, at some point, rather like we manage the flu. Here is a seasonal, very dangerous disease that kills thousands of people and society has chosen a particular way round it."

 

Prof Whitty said it was important to bring Covid deaths as low as possible, but warned that society would not tolerate being locked down to prevent similar numbers of deaths to those from flu.

 

"We want to get as close as we can [to zero] but the question is how do you balance that against other priorities?" he said. "What are people prepared to put up with? What we've demonstrated in the last year is we don't have to have flu at all if we don't want to, because the things we’ve done against Covid have led to virtually no influenza.

 

"If next year we say 'we can deal with flu, everyone lock down over the winter' I think the medical profession would not make itself popular with the general public.

 

"We need to work out some balance which actually keeps it at a low level, minimises deaths as best we can, but in a way that the population tolerates, through medical countermeasures like vaccines and in due course drugs, which mean you can minimise mortality while not maximising the economic and social impacts on our fellow citizens."

 

Prof Whitty said although there would always be more measures that could be put in place to save lives, such as shutting schools and universities or preventing relatives visiting the elderly in care homes, such restrictions prevented people from living a "whole life".

Asked by Sir Simon Wessely, professor of psychological medicine at the Institute of Psychiatry, King's College London, whether lockdowns would be reimposed if cases rose, even in local areas, Prof Whitty said: "No, I don't think so."

 

However, he added: "Society will not tolerate more than a certain number of people being ill, even if they know it's going to go away come the spring, and the area where we're going to have to pull the alarm cord is if a variant of concern comes in that we can see is now back to a situation of unconstrained growth because the immunological response to it is just not there."

 

Boris Johnson has previously vowed that the current unlocking of restrictions is irreversible, and next week the Government will determine whether shops can reopen on April 12 as planned.

The latest figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) show that infections in the community are continuing to fall, dropping eight per cent in a week.

 

However, Mr Johnson warned last week that cases were rising in Europe and a third wave may spread to Britain from the continent. Latest data from the King's College ZOE symptom tracker app also suggests the 'R' number may now be at one, or even above in some areas. The ONS warned that cases may be rising in the East of England.

 

Prof Whitty said that it was impossible to prevent variants from coming into the UK, and argued that shutting the borders would be unlikely to prevent new infections. 

 

The Government has been strongly criticised for keeping the borders open during both lockdowns, even though studies have shown that the vast majority of Britain’s cases were imported from countries like Spain and Italy.

 

"We have to accept the idea that stopping variants coming to the UK is not a realistic starting point, but you can slow it down," he said. "Anyone who believes you can put up some border policy that stops it is misunderstanding the problem completely.

 

"While the 'R' is less than one, which it has been for two or three months, then new variants don't have much of a foothold. Once we start to open things up, then if a variant comes in it has the opportunity to spread and the more cases you import the quicker the starting point. What we’re trying to do is slow it down.”

 

Prof Whitty also said that it was sensible to keep an "open mind" on whether the AstraZeneca vaccine  caused blood clots until it was proven otherwise.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/04/01/no-lockdowns-britain-will-treat-coronavirus-like-flu-says/

Edited April 2, 2021 by Seconal

[Mikheil]

1 hour ago, Seconal said:

Lockdowns are unlikely to be needed again as Britain learns to treat coronavirus like flu, Prof Chris Whitty has said.

 

The chief medical officer said that up to 25,000 people die in a bad flu year without anyone noticing and that accepting some Covid deaths would be the price of keeping schools and business open and allowing people to live a "whole life".

 

Prof Whitty, speaking on a Royal School of Medicine webinar, said the Government would only be forced to "pull the alarm cord" if a dangerous variant arrived, against which people had no immunity and which sparked exponential growth.

 

"Covid is not going to go away," he said. "You've got to work out what's a rational policy to this and here I would differentiate quite a lot between a pandemic environment and what you get with seasonal flu.

 

"Every year, somewhere between 7,000 and 9,000 citizens die of flu, most of them very elderly, and every few years you get a bad flu year where 20,000 to 25,000 die of it. The last time we had that was three years ago and no one noticed it.

 

"So it is clear we are going to have to manage it, at some point, rather like we manage the flu. Here is a seasonal, very dangerous disease that kills thousands of people and society has chosen a particular way round it."

 

Prof Whitty said it was important to bring Covid deaths as low as possible, but warned that society would not tolerate being locked down to prevent similar numbers of deaths to those from flu.

 

"We want to get as close as we can [to zero] but the question is how do you balance that against other priorities?" he said. "What are people prepared to put up with? What we've demonstrated in the last year is we don't have to have flu at all if we don't want to, because the things we’ve done against Covid have led to virtually no influenza.

 

"If next year we say 'we can deal with flu, everyone lock down over the winter' I think the medical profession would not make itself popular with the general public.

 

"We need to work out some balance which actually keeps it at a low level, minimises deaths as best we can, but in a way that the population tolerates, through medical countermeasures like vaccines and in due course drugs, which mean you can minimise mortality while not maximising the economic and social impacts on our fellow citizens."

 

Prof Whitty said although there would always be more measures that could be put in place to save lives, such as shutting schools and universities or preventing relatives visiting the elderly in care homes, such restrictions prevented people from living a "whole life".

Asked by Sir Simon Wessely, professor of psychological medicine at the Institute of Psychiatry, King's College London, whether lockdowns would be reimposed if cases rose, even in local areas, Prof Whitty said: "No, I don't think so."

 

However, he added: "Society will not tolerate more than a certain number of people being ill, even if they know it's going to go away come the spring, and the area where we're going to have to pull the alarm cord is if a variant of concern comes in that we can see is now back to a situation of unconstrained growth because the immunological response to it is just not there."

 

Boris Johnson has previously vowed that the current unlocking of restrictions is irreversible, and next week the Government will determine whether shops can reopen on April 12 as planned.

The latest figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) show that infections in the community are continuing to fall, dropping eight per cent in a week.

 

However, Mr Johnson warned last week that cases were rising in Europe and a third wave may spread to Britain from the continent. Latest data from the King's College ZOE symptom tracker app also suggests the 'R' number may now be at one, or even above in some areas. The ONS warned that cases may be rising in the East of England.

 

Prof Whitty said that it was impossible to prevent variants from coming into the UK, and argued that shutting the borders would be unlikely to prevent new infections. 

 

The Government has been strongly criticised for keeping the borders open during both lockdowns, even though studies have shown that the vast majority of Britain’s cases were imported from countries like Spain and Italy.

 

"We have to accept the idea that stopping variants coming to the UK is not a realistic starting point, but you can slow it down," he said. "Anyone who believes you can put up some border policy that stops it is misunderstanding the problem completely.

 

"While the 'R' is less than one, which it has been for two or three months, then new variants don't have much of a foothold. Once we start to open things up, then if a variant comes in it has the opportunity to spread and the more cases you import the quicker the starting point. What we’re trying to do is slow it down.”

 

Prof Whitty also said that it was sensible to keep an "open mind" on whether the AstraZeneca vaccine  caused blood clots until it was proven otherwise.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/04/01/no-lockdowns-britain-will-treat-coronavirus-like-flu-says/

I don't believe a word of it!

[writer]

SUSPICION ALERT!          The one screaming clue in that wriggle/duck/dive speech is 'unless a new variant develops that people have no immunity to'.    

 

Mr Whitty, do not wriggle - the Court cases are being prepared.

[rideforever]

Lockdowns and "vaccines"  cause variants, and of course we do nothing like this for flu.

If it is like flu why not treat it like flu and do precisely nothing.

 

I like the way he says "the public" has chosen a particular way of dealing with it... when actually it was the media lying about PCR and Bill Gates that chose what the public decided.

 

[Mitochondrial Eve]

Having given this some further thought since the story broke yesterday, obviously there will be a catch to what Whitty is saying and I have been trying to work out what this might be. Above all else, I think the controllers like to leave their options open and adjust accordingly depending on how the public respond to their machinations.

 

I think it has now become undeniable, even in the mainstream, that lockdowns don't work. Of course this was known all along by the so-called experts, but they are now choosing to reveal this and accept that different choices need to be made as to how to deal with this "deadly virus".

 

I am wondering if Sweden was deliberately used as the mainstream comparator of a nation that didn't adopt lockdown but has had better outcomes - an example to be used in the end to help show that lockdowns aren't the answer and therefore the need for an alternative solution after the public have been scared almost to death. Other more rogue nations such as Belarus and Tanzania, which also did not adopt lockdowns, have had little to no attention in the mainstream whereas it is common knowledge that Sweden took a more liberal approach. Compared to Sweden, the dilemma left now for countries that did lockdown, according to mainstream schools of thought, is how to emerge from restrictive measures as the masses are apparently too scared to re-open and rush back to how things were before.

 

So the solution that will be presented to this problem is Covid certificates with the stage set perfectly for this. Perhaps Whitty, and those controlling him, now think it is prime time to present this as the only feasible option out of this mess. We are already seeing gaslighting and emotional blackmail of epic proportions and it seems a full gone conclusion that those who refuse the injections will be blamed for ruining things for everyone else and holding the country back.

 

Whitty has left in place the back up plan of a "dangerous new variant" which can be conjured up any time as justification again for lockdown should the Covid certification scheme not work or gain mass public approval. People will hate the idea of going back to lockdown and may grasp at any alternative offered such as mass testing and certificates. Rinse and repeat until acceptable levels of vaccine / testing compliance have been achieved whilst, meanwhile, small businesses and the economy are destroyed presenting another problem, reaction, solution situation requiring global reset.

[Shy Talk]

He's been lying for 12 months - he isn't going to start telling the truth now. Up to his scrawny neck in the agenda. If they'd set the bar as low for flu deaths every year as they have done with 'covid' - death for any reason within 28 days of a 'positive' test for a start - this thing would never have got off the ground, because the numbers would no doubt be similar. With a simple, indisputable fact like that staring everybody in the face even on the BBC it's staggering more people still haven't worked out they're being conned into having their lives wrecked.

Edited April 2, 2021 by Shy Talk

[Mikheil]

I think that they have heard about the pending Court cases, and they need a back door, just in case. There have been too many cases where the backdoor wasn't prepared (2016 USA election as an example and the EU referendum when France and Holland said NO).

 

The UK Government DARE not allow a Court case to succeed. If it did, the entire world control structure would go up in flames. IF, and it's a fucking HUGE IF, a Court did rule in favour of the Plaintiffs, the Government would Appeal and the Judge who ruled in favour would have a sudden heart attack or stroke (shades of John Vorster SA President and PW Botha that they tried and failed).

 

The Appeals Court would "get the message" and overturn the verdict. Soros, Gates, Clinton and all these "Foundations" that are controlling world governments will NEVER allow such a Case to win.

 

So, just in case things went horribly wrong, they now have a backout plan. "We believed the scientists and we followed them. We believed the doctors, but we have realized that the lockdowns weren't working so we have gone against the scientists in the USA and the EU. It woz them wot did it, honest yo Warship"

 

The UK has done it's job. They claim to have given the kill shot to 30,000,000 people. They have helped the USA and the EU to cripple the world, ruin people's lives, throw millions out of work, cause Alzheimer's and Dementia in an entire generation and dumb down children even further and ensure that they OBEY. Even more important they have enriched themselves, Gate, Soros and the whole clique to the tune of BILLIONS in vaccination profit and the profit they anticipate from cancers and other diseases and probably sterilizing an entire generation.

 

They've done their job. Boris, Matt and their ilk can retire to South America or the Caribbean AND THEY WLL GET AWAY WITH IT!

[bamboozooka]

something we know nothing about has stopped the narrative.

 

if gates and co are winning why stop now.

psychopaths dont stop when they are in control.

 

i believe everyone involved will hang

[DarianF]

5 minutes ago, bamboozooka said:

something we know nothing about has stopped the narrative.

 

if gates and co are winning why stop now.

psychopaths dont stop when they are in control.

 

i believe everyone involved will hang

 

They've declared total war. They've shown all their cards. No god damned way they are stopping now.

[bamboozooka]

1 minute ago, DarianF said:

 

They've declared total war. They've shown all their cards. No god damned way they are stopping now.

no they havent they just said covid is the flu.

 

masks and distancing to be binned next

[DarianF]

3 minutes ago, bamboozooka said:

no they havent they just said covid is the flu.

 

masks and distancing to be binned next

 

I'm not buying it. Sounds like psyop bullshit.

[Seconal]

The Year the whole World Pannicked Over The New KungFlu

 

Given how there is no real news journalism anymore. News means the plural of 'New'. However when one chooses what news is reported and how it's reported the news then becomes political.

 

Twisted, contorted, out of context lies, lies and more confusing lies. Non-zero numbers are evidence and Wall Street richer than ever due to Covid, who is winning, again, its the rich 'duh' where you all busy with the Covid and the Racism, did you not notice?

 

We are left with their two sides fuelling our feuding with hatred brooding and Liberal lies soothing as they fly their two faced flags upon the winds of our feudalism we are all just lost, swept up in a cross-fire hurricane, not knowing which way is up, ever loosing our balance the more we search for stability drowning in their polluted mainstream of our own filth.

 

Stand up, lift your head out of the stream and take a breath, look up to the Sun and feel your feet on the Earth. You can't find balance swept up in their dizzying theatre of spin.

 

We must not play, so come take break and Fly Agaric Airways.

 

See no Evil. Hear no Evil. Speak no Evil.

 

- The Easter Islanders Where Mushroom Heads (literally)

Edited April 3, 2021 by Seconal

[Standfirm]

Well they wrote the foreign travel restrictions into the Coronavirus Act amendment recently, so I'm not holding my breath.

[bamboozooka]

15 hours ago, bamboozooka said:

something we know nothing about has stopped the narrative.

 

if gates and co are winning why stop now.

psychopaths dont stop when they are in control.

 

i believe everyone involved will hang

 

still think the psychopaths are in control?

 

https://www.newswars.com/good-news-bill-gates-geoengineering-plot-to-block-the-sun-is-scrapped/

[Shy Talk]

On 4/2/2021 at 1:28 PM, Seconal said:

Lockdowns are unlikely to be needed again as Britain learns to treat coronavirus like flu, Prof Chris Whitty has said.

 

The chief medical officer said that up to 25,000 people die in a bad flu year without anyone noticing and that accepting some Covid deaths would be the price of keeping schools and business open and allowing people to live a "whole life".

 

Prof Whitty, speaking on a Royal School of Medicine webinar, said the Government would only be forced to "pull the alarm cord" if a dangerous variant arrived, against which people had no immunity and which sparked exponential growth.

 

"Covid is not going to go away," he said. "You've got to work out what's a rational policy to this and here I would differentiate quite a lot between a pandemic environment and what you get with seasonal flu.

 

"Every year, somewhere between 7,000 and 9,000 citizens die of flu, most of them very elderly, and every few years you get a bad flu year where 20,000 to 25,000 die of it. The last time we had that was three years ago and no one noticed it.

 

"So it is clear we are going to have to manage it, at some point, rather like we manage the flu. Here is a seasonal, very dangerous disease that kills thousands of people and society has chosen a particular way round it."

 

Prof Whitty said it was important to bring Covid deaths as low as possible, but warned that society would not tolerate being locked down to prevent similar numbers of deaths to those from flu.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/04/01/no-lockdowns-britain-will-treat-coronavirus-like-flu-says/

 

Given the fact the 'irreversible' end of all restrictions on June 21 appears increasingly unlikely, it's worth revisiting this Whitty piece from two months ago.

 

Just as in the beginning when we swiftly moved from 'three weeks to flatten the curve' to masks, tiers etc long after flattening the curve, in two months SAGE has gone from saying 'treat it like the flu' to treat it like a 'volcano', even though we are now at zero deaths by their own made-up figures. Even Whitty admits in the article that no-one really notices a bad flu year. He understandably failed to add why - because flu seasons never attract wall-to-wall coverage on msm, unlike this Covid nonsense.

 

Any half-decent, uncompromised journalist would have a field day with this article alone. I'm not holding my breath.

 

[Anti Facts Sir]

Yes, whether you subscribe to this con or not, the fact is we are at ZERO deaths. So even the made-up BS stats are saying ZERO.

 

Of course that's probably because they want to create the illusion that the hot weather and Bank Holiday (doubtless engineered) then sees a sharp spike in "cases" and they can justify holding off on lifting lockdown while blaming the public for their own actions. Woo hoo.

Edited June 1, 2021 by Anti Facts Sir

[Niknik]

When they do go into it,it will be planned as "The Final Lockdown" to suppress any discontent and grind us down to submitting to the needle.

[Shy Talk]

16 hours ago, Niknik said:

When they do go into it,it will be planned as "The Final Lockdown" to suppress any discontent and grind us down to submitting to the needle.

 

You may be right here. We've had the 'irreversible roadmap' but they are probably keeping 'the final lockdown' psy-op up their sleeves.