rideforever Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 People get caught in knots inside, there is so much pressure from society with its insane agendas ... it's easy to understand why people just give up or withdraw. Anyway this book looked good to me: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikheil Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 This is REAL. A woman that I knew in South Africa, was an assistant at a veterinary clinic. Her boss went to an auction and bought a job lot of veterinary equipment. She was given the task of sorting through it and cataloging everything. One of the items was a metal cannister, she tried to get the lid off, but eventually, she took a hammer and chisel and forced the screw lid to turn. Inside was a small piece of brownish stuff. She picked it up, smelled it and tried to identify it but couldn't. She put it back in the container for disposal. Some time later she became very ill, her hair started falling out and she was collapsing. She was taken to hospital. After several weeks in intensive care, one of the doctors came to her and told her that they would discharge her the next day and that she should spend her last days with her family. The stuff in the cannister was highly radioactive, some compound of radium apparently. The told her that she had between one and three months at the most, before she would die and there was nothing that they could do to help her. She laughed at the doctor and told him that he was a bloody idiot and she had two sons to get to university and a husband to care for and she didn't have time to die. We met her two years later. Her hair had all grown back, she seemed normal. She warned us that from time to time she might collapse and fall down, but we should just leave her, it wouldn't last for long. A few days later (we were staying with them at the time), she was walking across the room and suddenly dropped. It was like a marionette that someone had severed all the strings. My girlfriend at the time ran to her, but after a minute or so, she got up and apologized for scaring us. She said that when she got out of hospital, it would happen multiple times every day, but now it was only once every week or so. The following year she moved with her husband to Rhodesia. One of her sons stayed with us for another year and when he left, his mom was still alive and well. Mind over matter? The power of positive thinking? A miracle? Does it really matter? Depends on your mindset. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTheTruthThough Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 4 hours ago, rideforever said: People get caught in knots inside, there is so much pressure from society with its insane agendas ... it's easy to understand why people just give up or withdraw. Anyway this book looked good to me: Thank you I will check this out and pass it on to her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTheTruthThough Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 3 hours ago, Mikheil said: This is REAL. A woman that I knew in South Africa, was an assistant at a veterinary clinic. Her boss went to an auction and bought a job lot of veterinary equipment. She was given the task of sorting through it and cataloging everything. One of the items was a metal cannister, she tried to get the lid off, but eventually, she took a hammer and chisel and forced the screw lid to turn. Inside was a small piece of brownish stuff. She picked it up, smelled it and tried to identify it but couldn't. She put it back in the container for disposal. Some time later she became very ill, her hair started falling out and she was collapsing. She was taken to hospital. After several weeks in intensive care, one of the doctors came to her and told her that they would discharge her the next day and that she should spend her last days with her family. The stuff in the cannister was highly radioactive, some compound of radium apparently. The told her that she had between one and three months at the most, before she would die and there was nothing that they could do to help her. She laughed at the doctor and told him that he was a bloody idiot and she had two sons to get to university and a husband to care for and she didn't have time to die. We met her two years later. Her hair had all grown back, she seemed normal. She warned us that from time to time she might collapse and fall down, but we should just leave her, it wouldn't last for long. A few days later (we were staying with them at the time), she was walking across the room and suddenly dropped. It was like a marionette that someone had severed all the strings. My girlfriend at the time ran to her, but after a minute or so, she got up and apologized for scaring us. She said that when she got out of hospital, it would happen multiple times every day, but now it was only once every week or so. The following year she moved with her husband to Rhodesia. One of her sons stayed with us for another year and when he left, his mom was still alive and well. Mind over matter? The power of positive thinking? A miracle? Does it really matter? Depends on your mindset. What an amazing story. The power of the mind is fascinating and I believe our mind creates our own reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTheTruthThough Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 25 minutes ago, perpetual said: Tempted to say, make lots of salad dressing containg CBD oil lol But if she wants to go, it's her choice. Lol it did cross my mind but she would never trust me again if I did that, plus, you cannot mask that taste She doesn’t want to go, she just doesn’t seem to be making an effort to stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTheTruthThough Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 9 hours ago, perpetual said: It's a tough one. See, when someone is depressed, for example, not motivated to do anything. It will test your communication skill. But sometimes, they will listen to a stranger than the closest family member who love and care.... :( Another option is, if you suggested that may be a healer could help her? She did get diagnosed with depression before, she says she isn’t now but I’ve not really believed it since some signs are there. She was full of life before and now mostly so withdrawn I haven’t actually thought of a healer but that is a very good suggestion. I’d rather doctors stay completely away before they try out her on any more strong pharmaceuticals thank you for your suggestion. I’ll look into what healers are close to me and hope she might agree! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny79 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 On 4/2/2021 at 3:30 PM, Mr M said: The system set-up will likely be binary. Either they will expect us to agree enthusiastically to the vaccines or be hesitant/strongly opposed. They wont expect people to short-circuit the process by, for example, making multiple appointments and not showing up. Someone on another forum suggested we do with this vaccine what he has done for years with flu vaccines (which are mandatory for his job). He shows up, signs all the necessary papers and then walks out before getting it. That way he has documents 'proving' he's had the jab which he then show to his employer. Hilarious Not sure if you have to provide written consent for the Covid jab, if you don't that's criminal, but it might be interesting to go along with it right up until the last minute and then 'change your mind'. I plan on doing some of this myself. If I do I'll keep this forum updated. Do you have links for this forum please genius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr M Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 16 hours ago, vinny79 said: Do you have links for this forum please genius Sorry I don't. It was a few months ago. It was possibly the Godlike Productions forum or it may have been a comment on a Zero Hedge news article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre-Raphaelite Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 The easist way to avoid being hassled is to state you are allergic to vaccines and have severe reactions. This has worked effectively in several instances with no more calls. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonPhase Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 So far I've had 4 txt messages, 1 letter and 3 phone calls (all of which I didn't answer). I don't want to be rude to my doctors practice or make threats, they have helped me through cancer 5 times and were supportive when my wife and I had Covid. I can easily take the harassment as I know they are only following the protocol which is forced upon them, but I am interested to see how many attempts at communication they will make, hence my reason for ignoring all their attempts so far. I wonder if they would go as far as knocking on my door, we'll soon see lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFH Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Had one text so far a fortnight ago. I replied through my GP portal to decline and I warned them that I wouldn't take it lightly if they began harassing me about it. I'm also not answering the door to the census stasi. That must be irritating them because they know I'm home. So far so good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibby Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 On 4/2/2021 at 5:16 PM, Ergo Storm said: The mistake you made here was telling them that you refuse. It's actually none of their business. I was in the same position, and I sent the practice manager a very polite e-mail with my NHS number and told her: (i). I will be making my own informed decision about what, if any, medical treatment I will accept and who will provide the treatment and when; and, (ii). all vaccine reminders must cease and I wish to be removed from the Covid-19 vaccine mailing list for that GP practice with immediate effect. This stopped the reminders and they left me alone. That is how you do it. I am at an advantage in that I was a practising lawyer for many years, so I know how to deal with the authorities, how to research the law and my rights, and how to compose letters. I then decided, for my own reasons, to voluntarily de-register from my GP practice and I researched the procedure. I am now no longer registered with any GP practice or primary care provider in the UK. But that's an extreme course of action that won't be suitable for everybody. In my case, I know there are alternative providers I can turn to locally if I develop any acute health problems. I don't want to be registered with NHS primary care because I think they are going to start officially harassing and/or even detaining the non-vaccinated and I now realise that the only answer is to gradually go off-grid. TOTALLY AGREE MY GP practice kept harassing me by phone...leaving messages telling me to book jib jab After ignoring a few I decided to write to the GP to highlight my distaste of the constant tel calls. I havent actually refused it but set out a number of questions relating to the "vaccine", its efficacy, its safety and asked GP about the ingredients, possible side effects, safety and the apparent “need” to take the “vaccine” according to the reception appointment handlers and the fact that you dont know which vaccine you are getting until you get to the jab centre ( all very dodgy if you ask me) I also highlighted the legal requirement of informed consent which is absent in all this and requested a response within 14 days The GP phoned me 2 days later expressing his concern about my letter. I re iterated my rights to informed consent and explained that the form he sent me says very little about providing information to the patient, pre jab. He said he was just doing what the govt tells him. He has no idea of ingredients, safety etc. He is just doing his job !! unbelievable He agreed that its my choice. However, I then pointed out that many people will just get the jab because they havent been spoken to by the GP with a balanced view. The GP responded saying “in normality we would sit down with the patient and explain things but this is different” I said no chance....this is all rushed and I remain sceptical until satisfied His professionalism has gone down to rock bottom in my estimation after this. It seems that the £27 "drink" they receive per patient jab is more important He couldnt answer my questions but instead pointed me to the Green Book on the govt website. He seemed frightened to carry on with our coversation. I think he was more worried that I may take it further which I WILL IF I GET HARASSED AGAIN I ask myself "is this the system I paid into most of my working life" A B A LAW (HONS) at the bottom of my letters always gets them moving I must say !!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonPhase Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Had my 4th call from the GP yesterday. My wife answered the phone telling them I wasn't in, they seem to be trying another approach, they asked if I would call them back as they want to book an appointment to check my blood pressure. Not sure why they suddenly seem interested in my BP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTheTruthThough Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 On 4/7/2021 at 12:52 PM, Pre-Raphaelite said: The easist way to avoid being hassled is to state you are allergic to vaccines and have severe reactions. This has worked effectively in several instances with no more calls. Will this work though? It should have been documented with them on their files. I’m thinking of saying ‘although it’s not on my records, myself and all my family had severe reactions to our last jabs, not sure why it’s not in our records!’ And see where that takes us lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre-Raphaelite Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 On 4/15/2021 at 3:17 PM, ItsTheTruthThough said: Will this work though? It should have been documented with them on their files. I’m thinking of saying ‘although it’s not on my records, myself and all my family had severe reactions to our last jabs, not sure why it’s not in our records!’ And see where that takes us lol Once informed that you have adverse reactions to a medication they cannot administer it. In any case you have a right to decline whatever drugs are offered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikheil Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 7 hours ago, Pre-Raphaelite said: Once informed that you have adverse reactions to a medication they cannot administer it. In any case you have a right to decline whatever drugs are offered. CORRECTION : You HAD the right to decline whatever drugs are DEMANDED. Thanks to the morons out there, you lost ALL of your rights. It's not the Govt that needs to DEMAND, it's the moronic masses. Worse, I see people even on this forum who 'forgive' them and want to keep them as friends. Some fucking friend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibby Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 From my experience of the GP...... They want to take an "arms length" approach. Push the admin staff to do all the harrassing/chasing up of the flock. The GP then sits back denying any involvement in the scam "im just doing my job being told by govt" as their filthy bank accounts fill up with vaccine money BASTARDS Does anyone know how to de register from a gp practice,,, im done with these murderous turds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozooka Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 2 txts 3 weeks ago nothing since Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibby Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 and the problem is the amount of people that have done no critical thinking about this and just accepted the needle of doom Ive heard some say that they have got to take it complete brainwashing at play from msm cut the plug off the tv,,, that wpuld be a start !!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre-Raphaelite Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Mikheil said: CORRECTION : You HAD the right to decline whatever drugs are DEMANDED. Thanks to the morons out there, you lost ALL of your rights... No, people have NOT all of lost their rights with regard to medical treatment. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-nhs-constitution-for-england/the-nhs-constitution-for-england NHS - Respect, consent and confidentiality (Jan 2021) Your rights You have the right to be treated with dignity and respect, in accordance with your human rights. You have the right to be protected from abuse and neglect, and care and treatment that is degrading. You have the right to accept or refuse treatment that is offered to you, and not to be given any physical examination or treatment unless you have given valid consent. If you do not have the capacity to do so, consent must be obtained from a person legally able to act on your behalf, or the treatment must be in your best interests. You have the right to be given information about the test and treatment options available to you, what they involve and their risks and benefits. You have the right of access to your own health records and to have any factual inaccuracies corrected. You have the right to privacy and confidentiality and to expect the NHS to keep your confidential information safe and secure. You have the right to be informed about how your information is used. You have the right to request that your confidential information is not used beyond your own care and treatment and to have your objections considered, and where your wishes cannot be followed, to be told the reasons including the legal basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikheil Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Pre-Raphaelite said: No, people have NOT all of lost their rights with regard to medical treatment. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-nhs-constitution-for-england/the-nhs-constitution-for-england NHS - Respect, consent and confidentiality (Jan 2021) Your rights You have the right to be treated with dignity and respect, in accordance with your human rights. You have the right to be protected from abuse and neglect, and care and treatment that is degrading. You have the right to accept or refuse treatment that is offered to you, and not to be given any physical examination or treatment unless you have given valid consent. If you do not have the capacity to do so, consent must be obtained from a person legally able to act on your behalf, or the treatment must be in your best interests. You have the right to be given information about the test and treatment options available to you, what they involve and their risks and benefits. You have the right of access to your own health records and to have any factual inaccuracies corrected. You have the right to privacy and confidentiality and to expect the NHS to keep your confidential information safe and secure. You have the right to be informed about how your information is used. You have the right to request that your confidential information is not used beyond your own care and treatment and to have your objections considered, and where your wishes cannot be followed, to be told the reasons including the legal basis. I'll be ready to quote this back at you in a few months when they make "Jabs" MANDATORY. The only right you can never lose is the right to DIE. You lost all other rights years ago but you still have the illusion of rights, like you have the illusion of free, fair and democratic elections, or freedom of choice of your doctor (unless you can afford to go private). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artmuzz Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 I haven’t had a call yet but I got a letter posted to me from NHS telling me that an appointment has been arranged for me to get the Covid vaccine. Naturally, I ripped it up and alongside TV licence letters it’s getting used as cat litter. No doubt I’ll get a call next but they will get told to get lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saved Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Called me three times today. I just ignore all 0345 numbers (or similar). They texted me an offer to decline or accept some time back, I texted back Decline via a link and that's the end of it as far as I'm concerned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin1234 Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 I had a text message today. First contact I have received. Not altogether sure how they got my phone number, I don't recall giving it to the doctors but guess I must have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonPhase Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 I went a while with no texts or phone calls then all of a sudden the texts started again. I was getting them twice daily from both the GP surgery and the NHS. Despite what I said earlier about being happy for it to continue I started getting pissed off big time. I used the messaging facility on my GP's website and sent a note asking them to stop sending the texts and if possible to stop the NHS ones as well. I said it was becoming a problem and was very unnerving. About 90 minutes later the receptionist phoned, she asked if I had decided against having the jab and could she log me as such. I told her I was not committing either way but didn't want, and was fed up with the barrage of text messages. She seemed a little perplexed before saying she would log me as undecided. So far so good, no messages or phone calls. I didn't want to say yes or no, I want to remain unlabelled and in limbo messing up their nice neat system of either being compliant or noncompliant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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