"Viral Shedding" / Can we get infected with the Covid vaccine from someone who took it?

[Freeman]

Hi. Im writing from Poland. I live with my family and these people are brainwashed, they want to receive the Covid vaccine. I heard that the vaccine is a mutagen and it has nothing to do with good vaccination. They don't trust my words and they are probably going to take it soon.

If they want to become mutants or die, fine! My concern however is this: can I get infected with the vaccine mutagen from their bloodstream or saliva? We share the same kitchen, bathroom, etc. I need some reliable information... is this just my fear or can I get infected somehow? I'm going to protect my health and my life.

[ItsTheTruthThough]

There is no clear answer sadly! It depends on if the germ theory is correct - in which case yes technically it is possible and this idea is supported but Geert Vanden Bossche, Del Bigtree and Vernon Coleman. If the terrain theory is correct, then no it is not possible, and this idea is supported by Andrew Kaufman and David Icke etc. What I take away from this is that it is a possibility.

[Mikheil]

2 hours ago, Freeman said:

Hi. Im writing from Poland. I live with my family and these people are brainwashed, they want to receive the Covid vaccine. I heard that the vaccine is a mutagen and it has nothing to do with good vaccination. They don't trust my words and they are probably going to take it soon.

If they want to become mutants or die, fine! My concern however is this: can I get infected with the vaccine mutagen from their bloodstream or saliva? We share the same kitchen, bathroom, etc. I need some reliable information... is this just my fear or can I get infected somehow? I'm going to protect my health and my life.

From an ex-veterinarian who worked during the Parvo Virus era, the answer is YES, unless you are one of these people who think that we are not animals and have a different set of rules.

[Freeman]

Then what way can we get infected? Through blood or saliva or what? How can we protect ourselves when living under same roof with such people?? Fuck, I don't like this...

[Mikheil]

32 minutes ago, Freeman said:

Then what way can we get infected? Through blood or saliva or what? How can we protect ourselves when living under same roof with such people?? Fuck, I don't like this...

If you actually believe in virii, then think of the following. I have already written about this in one of the threads. We go back to Parvo Virus as it was called

 

If a dog had a high antibody titer and got vaccinated, the antibodies actually DECREASED, not increased. Let's call this Group A) . If the dog did NOT have any real antibody titer, the vaccination INCREASED the titer. Let's call this Group B. Even having a high antibody titer wasn't 100% effective against Parvo.

 

Now when they took Vaccine #2 if the dog belonged to Group A, the antibody titer dropped yet again, so you just went from having high immunity to having very little immunity. If the dog belonged to Group B, the second vaccine made no real difference, but here comes the rub. 

 

Vaccine #3 in both groups reduced the antibody titer to around ZERO. Some actually got Parvo, but almost every one of their offspring died of Parvo. 

 

Again, if you think humans are different to animals, explain why no animal trials were done before forcing this Covid injection onto a gullible population. I'll tell you why, BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE ANSWER FROM THE PARVO VIRUS MALADY THAT THEY DELIBERATELY INFLICTED ON DOGS WORLD-WIDE.

 

THAT was the fucking TRIAL that's why and they KNOW the results.

 

Oh, BTW, soon after Parvo, came HIV. Coincidence?

 

How can you get infected? If you believe what they are telling you, all of the above. How do you protect yourself? Good question, back to Parvo :

 

Dogs that had been in constant contact with the Parvo virus, (Police dogs, security dogs, Military dogs etc.,), obviously (to me) developed antibodies slowly before the real dog pandemic came. Very few got Parvo.

 

Dogs, kept at home and rarely taken outside, died by the hundreds. The twist was that even dogs that had never been outside of their own garden and never been in contact with another dog, got Parvo (similar to a Naval ship with sailors that hadn't been ashore for weeks, getting Covid-19). Vaccinations had just about no effect on the spread, over the years dogs developed herd immunity, BUT THEY STILL VACCINATE THE POOR BUGGERS EVEN TODAY. 

 

As I haven't been a vet since the late 1970's when I decided it was unfit for purpose. I have no idea at all if dogs still get PV. I know vaccination in general has caused a massive problem in dog diseases that never existed before. CDM (Canine Degenerative Myelopathy) being one of them, now almost always diagnosed as Hip Dysplasia, but there is a HUGE difference in symptoms, but todays vets are drug dealers for Pharma, just like doctors, so they couldn't diagnose, Demodectic mange from Ringworms (yep, I have proof of that one!!!)

 

Mange is also on the increase, but they banned the only drug that can actually CURE it - Ivermectin.

 

[Freeman]

Accually I don't see any definite answer to my question which was not about getting infected by some virus, but by the mutagen (or some other shit) from vaccine. Can it be transferred to someone else somehow when it already circulates in their bloodstream? Thank you.

[Mikheil]

1 hour ago, Freeman said:

Accually I don't see any definite answer to my question which was not about getting infected by some virus, but by the mutagen (or some other shit) from vaccine. Can it be transferred to someone else somehow when it already circulates in their bloodstream? Thank you.

Good question. Definite answer is the same as the long term effects of Covid-19 vaccine. No one other than Bill Gates and his satanic bunch have any idea at all. As you can't catch autism, cancer, diabetes, asthma and suchlike from another person. It SHOULD be - NO, but as no-one has any idea what else the kill shot will give you, there is no definite answer.

 

Use you discretion and imagination. Eugenics is the name of the game, "reducing world population by vaccination".

[Freeman]

Thanks. My imagination gives me this question: how long will it take for the mutagen to be transformed in the body so that noone else can get infected from that someone's bloodstream or savila (or any other way)? Is there any specialist here to answer this question or is there any reliable source of information on the internet?

[Mikheil]

1 hour ago, Freeman said:

Thanks. My imagination gives me this question: how long will it take for the mutagen to be transformed in the body so that noone else can get infected from that someone's bloodstream or savila (or any other way)? Is there any specialist here to answer this question or is there any reliable source of information on the internet?

EVERYTHING about this injection is EXPERIMENTAL. If anyone knew the answers to all the questions (probably not even Bill Gates or his satanic horde), it wouldn't be experimental. Think the WORST possible scenario and then if it doesn't happen it won't matter. If it does and you've taken the right precautions, it still won't matter.

 

If it were me and I had the most voluptuous woman on earth, who was amazing in bed and she's so fucking dumb and stupid to become a human guinea pig, I would drop her like a white hot coal. HIV is transmitted by fucking and although the pundits say you can't get it from kissing, I wouldn't take that chance.

 

I hope that answers your question (again).

[scowie]

There is no such thing as a contagious disease and I doubt that is going to change as a result of this vaccination.  Whenever any rigorous scientific investigations into disease spread have been carried out, they have shown no sign of any disease symptoms being transmissible from one person to another.  A good example being the US Navy Gallops Island study into the supposedly highly infectious "Spanish Flu": https://moscow.sci-hub.se/4021/da48b390a33f0ef54f59d6974a4104f6/rosenau1919.pdf 

[writer]

I agree with 'scowie', the misunderstanding of contagion has had a long life!     This entire 'virus' pantomime is an attempt by those who stand to lose everything.      The medication  (it is not a vax)  has an energetic aspect that will change the recipient energetically, it is this aspect that is causing current concern.  To understand this, it is vital to know (remember) that we are all ENERGY BEINGS first and foremost, and that we are currently undertaking a planetary ascension.  

 

It is these two facts that are at the core of the medication attack, not understood by those who administer it and those who take it. As we ascend, our energy frequency ascends also, the completion of this event is the end of the dark plan/cabal, as that energy cannot exist in higher frequencies, so we have the attempt at energetically disabling as many humans as possible.  

 

On a more practical note - there is advice appearing now as to the protection to be found in black crystals  - tourmaline, hematite or obsidian, long used for protection against negativity of all types for those who work with energy.   Buy one, clean it in spring water ,

never tap water, ask it mentally to protect you against all unsupportive frequencies, can be carried in a pocket/bag or worn as jewellery.    We are involved in an energetic way - Light versus 'dark', so thinking outside the box is required.  

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[Mikheil]

4 hours ago, writer said:

I agree with 'scowie', the misunderstanding of contagion has had a long life!     This entire 'virus' pantomime is an attempt by those who stand to lose everything.      The medication  (it is not a vax)  has an energetic aspect that will change the recipient energetically, it is this aspect that is causing current concern.  To understand this, it is vital to know (remember) that we are all ENERGY BEINGS first and foremost, and that we are currently undertaking a planetary ascension.  

 

It is these two facts that are at the core of the medication attack, not understood by those who administer it and those who take it. As we ascend, our energy frequency ascends also, the completion of this event is the end of the dark plan/cabal, as that energy cannot exist in higher frequencies, so we have the attempt at energetically disabling as many humans as possible.  

 

On a more practical note - there is advice appearing now as to the protection to be found in black crystals  - tourmaline, hematite or obsidian, long used for protection against negativity of all types for those who work with energy.   Buy one, clean it in spring water ,

never tap water, ask it mentally to protect you against all unsupportive frequencies, can be carried in a pocket/bag or worn as jewellery.    We are involved in an energetic way - Light versus 'dark', so thinking outside the box is required.  

Sorry, I don't buy into this one. It's akin to a rabbit's foot or a 4-leaf clover. As long as you believe in this stuff it's OK by me, just like religoin, but don't try to sell it to folks like me.

[CrowintheSnow]

10 hours ago, writer said:

our energy frequency ascends also, the completion of this event is the end of the dark plan/cabal, as that energy cannot exist in higher frequencies, so we have the attempt at energetically disabling as many humans as possible.  

I can kind of relate to this, though it might sound a bit woo-woo.

 

In 2018 I "caught" something that changed my energetic frequency seriously and it happened suddenly. It wasn't even a classic "flu". Literally one moment my normal self was putting logs through the splitter...the next moment I couldn't feel my heartfelt thoughts. (as well as some weird physical symptoms) I couldn't find my Soul.

 

Long story I won't go into unless anyone wants to be bored by reading a list of how someone felt rotten

 

But it went on....and on....and on. Doc. could find nothing wrong with me. Tests, neurologist, nothing could find anything wrong with me. I tested for EMFs. but even when everything was switched off and silent, the feelings were still there, messing not just with my body but with my energetic self.

I'll add that I have no history of any mental illness.

(I live in a very remote place, so there were no EMFs/wi-fi etc  from neighbours or surroundings. My meter registered nothing outside at all.)

Strange thing....sometimes it completely lifted, maybe for a few moments, an hour, or even a complete day or more, when I could easily tune into my normal energetic self again. It lifted, and came back like someone flipping a switch.

It's been on-going since 2018, but I now make an effort to focus, and kind of meditate I guess, and that helped.

Oddly during the actual Covid infection (April 2020)  I didn't get that sense of separation at all, nor for a few weeks after recovery. My immune system and herbal medicines dealt with it well, I think.

 

That is one of my own personal main reasons I'm not going anywhere near the vaccine.

 

Something happened in Spring 2018. I have no idea what though.

Edited March 23, 2021 by CrowintheSnow

[old-timer]

Hey guys,

just to keep it short.

 

Is it safe for non vaccinated people to be around vaccinated people when the restrictions are lifted soon?

 

I've heard about viral shedding, I don't know much about it in relation to CV

 

Thanks in advance,

oldtimer

[Mikheil]

1 hour ago, old-timer said:

Hey guys,

just to keep it short.

 

Is it safe for non vaccinated people to be around vaccinated people when the restrictions are lifted soon?

 

I've heard about viral shedding, I don't know much about it in relation to CV

 

Thanks in advance,

oldtimer

Another shill. Look. you need to stay at home, wear two masks, 24 x 7. Demand vaccination every month. No alcohol, no sex, only go outside of your door if it's 100% necessary. Make sure everyone in your family does the same, Sit at your window all day with your phone and report anyone who seems to be having anything resembling a life.

 

Now if you stick to these simple rules, you won't need to be concerned about viral shedding, or Covid-19 or the forthcoming Covid-21.

 

People will not be allowed to have any freedom for long. Just long enough for the EU to show off the UK as a shining beacon of freedom after vaccination. Once the UK and Boris have been praised and revered. The lockdown coming again soon will be MUCH more draconian.

 

Hands, Face, Space, Stay Home, Save Lives and Protect the NHS.

 

If you really believe the Covid hoax, I have a bridge and a castle for sale.

[Itsa]

I think you’ve misunderstood the op @Mikheil

There has been some talk about vaccinated people becoming vessels for dangerous diseases because of their genetic modification jab.

so I think old timer is wondering about that and not shilling.

[old-timer]

7 minutes ago, Itsa said:

I think you’ve misunderstood the op @Mikheil

There has been some talk about vaccinated people becoming vessels for dangerous diseases because of their genetic modification jab.

so I think old timer is wondering about that and not shilling.

 

Thats right Itsa, 

my hubby and I have not had the jab but when restrictions are loosened we would like to visit certain family members who have had the jab?

 

I was just wondering if it might be in our best interests to stay away from them?

 

[Grumpy Owl]

2 hours ago, old-timer said:

Is it safe for non vaccinated people to be around vaccinated people when the restrictions are lifted soon?

 

I've heard about viral shedding, I don't know much about it in relation to CV

 

As far as I am concerned, it has ALWAYS been safe to be around other people (unless one or more of those people is waving a knife or gun at you, in which case they are to be avoided at all costs).

 

This idea that people are all 'toxic' and to be treated like lepers is ridiculous and illogical. It doesn't help when you have the government spreading its behavioural messaging like "Act Like You've Got It" etc.

 

Fake virus, fake pandemic, all driven by fake tests giving fake 'cases', and deaths being faked (by this I mean that people have died, but the actual cause of death becomes irrelevant, they died 'with Covid' etc).

 

Now 'viral shedding', this is another new term that I've previously never heard of, same as 'asymptomatic transmission', so I am cautious and sceptical, just in case it is some new buzzword just designed to confuse and befuddle people.

[Itsa]

13 minutes ago, old-timer said:

 

Thats right Itsa, 

my hubby and I have not had the jab but when restrictions are loosened we would like to visit certain family members who have had the jab?

 

I was just wondering if it might be in our best interests to stay away from them?

 

Well it’s a tough call. I’ve seen mike yeadon who used to work for pfizer and a guy called vanden bossche who have talked about these kind of scenarios.

I guess you could leave it a little longer if they’ve only just had it?

Just speculating here but I would think it would be the coming autumn/winter season when they start injecting people with ‘upgrades’ and seasonal viruses they expect to be in circulation that any potential danger would arise....

[rideforever]

7 minutes ago, Itsa said:

Well it’s a tough call. I’ve seen mike yeadon who used to work for pfizer and a guy called vanden bossche who have talked about these kind of scenarios.

 

Well you are repeating nonsense from these donkeys ... repeating nonsense will do you a lot more harm in the long run than any flu.  That's a fact.

 

SarsCov2 is a relatively typical respiratory virus (let's assume it exists) like countless others that circulate the globe and always have.  The death rate last year was so low that 2020 is in the 13 best years ever in the UK, I believe it is No 13 best year out of 181 years on record.

 

One great danger of vaccines, vaccinated people, and staying at home is that your immune system becomes weak from lack of use.  Lack of use is the most dangerous thing.  It's like you stay in a plastic bubble and then one day you go out into the real world and there are colds and flus and shit everywhere .... what do you think is going to happen?

 

Your immune system that you need to live on Earth must be used, must get infected and fight off infection.  So you should go everywhere.

 

As for you dumb inlaws ... it is true that they are likely to be sicker than normal people in the future because the "vaccines" damage their immune system in the long run.  So treat them as people who are prone to be sicker than others because they messed up their natural immune system, and make a call.   If they are stupid enough to go and have more injections I suggest you lose their phone number, they are the kind of people that will damage your life.

 

 

 

 

[Itsa]

1 minute ago, rideforever said:

 

Well you are repeating nonsense from these donkeys ... repeating nonsense will do you a lot more harm in the long run than any flu.  That's a fact.

 

 

 

 

 

 

No you’re incorrect, I haven’t repeated anything they have said.

I have provided two points of reference that relate to the op’s inquiry and also added my own personal thoughts making clear it is just speculation.

[ItsTheTruthThough]

If the germ theory is correct, then viral shedding could be an issue yes. I lean towards the terrain theory, but I think all avenues should be explored and discussed. It’s possible any of us are wrong and I’m sure none here are fully 100% correct with anything we believe. 
 

Something about staying away from people and being afraid just doesn’t sit right with me though. I think eat right, boost your immune system, think healthily and act like a normal human being is the way forward. 

[Mikheil]

If you actually BELIEVE that the 2020 'flu season was / is a "deadly pandemic", then my previous advice holds and you should talk to me about bargains in bridges and castles, because it's obvious you believe ANYTHING.

 

I am so sick and tired of reading crap from people who believe the utter garbage that they are being fed. I just want to explode with rage!

 

It isn't the government, it's the fucking morons walking around in their face diapers and demanding even tougher lockdowns, abusing people who have a brain and trying in roundabout ways to encourage people to get "The Jab"., who are the menace to our freedom.

 

I get the impression that the whole idea of this question is to eventually lead up to a point where they say "It's best to get the vaccine so we can avoid things like "viral shedding" (whatever the fuck that is)". If that's your game, you are wasting your time and more importantly mine.

[ItsTheTruthThough]

10 minutes ago, Mikheil said:

If you actually BELIEVE that the 2020 'flu season was / is a "deadly pandemic", then my previous advice holds and you should talk to me about bargains in bridges and castles, because it's obvious you believe ANYTHING.

 

I am so sick and tired of reading crap from people who believe the utter garbage that they are being fed. I just want to explode with rage!

 

It isn't the government, it's the fucking morons walking around in their face diapers and demanding even tougher lockdowns, abusing people who have a brain and trying in roundabout ways to encourage people to get "The Jab"., who are the menace to our freedom.

 

I get the impression that the whole idea of this question is to eventually lead up to a point where they say "It's best to get the vaccine so we can avoid things like "viral shedding" (whatever the fuck that is)". If that's your game, you are wasting your time and more importantly mine.

I don’t think anyone here thinks that would suggest it. The vaccine wrecks your immune system so that would never ever be the answer, even with viral shedding. It would put you in an even worse position.

[old-timer]

1 hour ago, Itsa said:

Well it’s a tough call. I’ve seen mike yeadon who used to work for pfizer and a guy called vanden bossche who have talked about these kind of scenarios.

I guess you could leave it a little longer if they’ve only just had it?

Just speculating here but I would think it would be the coming autumn/winter season when they start injecting people with ‘upgrades’ and seasonal viruses they expect to be in circulation that any potential danger would arise....

 

Thank you for your replies Itsa, yes I've heard those guys too. 

 

@rideforever very good points you make there regarding our immune systems, thank you, thank you

Edited March 29, 2021 by old-timer