Finally lost my temper with a masked mushroom in the supermarket but every cloud.........

[Garrison]

5 hours ago, Bee said:

But genuine question, why then doesn't the programming affect all people/everyone? How is it that some, and not an insignificant amount, can see beyond the programming and haven't succumbed to it? Why it is that despite the programming there are people who can think for themselves and who don't automatically accept what they are told by those perceived to be in positions of authority? What differentiates those who are passive, accepting and obedient and those who see through all the lies? I've thought about this a lot but can't really figure it out. 

 

It all feels like a bad dream where anyone who normally questions things is surrounded by people who can't or won't see the truth and their total compliance is dragging us into a terrifying future.

 

Maybe Cern has jumped us into a alternative reality and we are living in our worst nightmare,I mean come on you don't have to have followed of Icke or Marrs etc to see through this bullshit as normally the government will hide things so you have to do a lot of digging to get to the truth and even then it's not 100%.

 

But this scam is blatant and a complete shambles and still people don't see it.

 

I still haven't figured out why.

[Anti Facts Sir]

5 hours ago, CAC said:

 

I understand completely. It reminds me of how I felt when I first "woke up" or became aware of the fact that most of what we are told is nothing more than a fabrication aimed at controlling us.

 

It took me a good couple of years to adjust to it all, and although I still can't relate to the vast majority of the Ignorati, I am settled and strong in my convictions nowadays and keep my circle of people small.

 

It can be a lonely path, but be assured that there are plenty of people like us out there and you will meet new, like-minded friends over the years to come.

 

Find your inner peace and strength, and don't bother with those who are not on the same path as you because it will only cause you conflict and stop you becoming who you are.

Out of likes, but yes to all this. And I absolutely identify with @Grumpy Owl's situation too.

 

I always stuck to my guns, even if everyone else in class thought something else was the answer (of course, many of them just agreed with the majority that formed instead of genuinely having an opinion). So I had conviction, right or wrong, way back. And that only strengthened after what happened to me in my teens and 20s. And what was happening just before this nonsense kicked off. I felt a weight, a cloud, not so much over me personally, but a sense that the status quo - the direction that the world, and society were heading - just could not be sustained for much longer. I didn't predict anything like this, but what's emerged and the total breakdown in society and the withdrawal of our freedoms and our rights for ludicrous reasons, all accepted by the same majority thinkers whose mentality I had distanced myself from years ago - perhaps prepared for me this.

 

The speed at which everything has unravelled has been shocking but, maybe, not at all that surprising. There was no substance to the world being created and the illusions it was selling to people. And people themselves were losing touch with their inner beings. All it took was a pretty flimsy scam, totally transparent right from the start to anyone with critical thinking, and down it all tumbled. The decades of shit TV, smartphones, "social media", online shopping, and TV brainwashing....they did their job.

 

[CAC]

5 hours ago, Bee said:

But genuine question, why then doesn't the programming affect all people/everyone? How is it that some, and not an insignificant amount, can see beyond the programming and haven't succumbed to it? Why it is that despite the programming there are people who can think for themselves and who don't automatically accept what they are told by those perceived to be in positions of authority? What differentiates those who are passive, accepting and obedient and those who see through all the lies? I've thought about this a lot but can't really figure it out. 

 

For me, I believe that it comes down to two factors: a mind that excels at logical processing (ie being able to work out or intuit the truth from limited or diverse/unrelated bits of information), and a lack of fear of death.

 

Once one conquers the fear of death one cannot be manipulated by fear-based programming, which is what TPTB do to people in general.

 

I might be wrong, and people may have different reasons why the programming fails, but I have thought about my own position for a good 30 years and come to the above conclusion.

[Anti Facts Sir]

I have a long-term aversion to bullshit too, which maybe helps.

[Mikheil]

6 hours ago, CAC said:

 

For me, I believe that it comes down to two factors: a mind that excels at logical processing (ie being able to work out or intuit the truth from limited or diverse/unrelated bits of information), and a lack of fear of death.

 

Once one conquers the fear of death one cannot be manipulated by fear-based programming, which is what TPTB do to people in general.

 

I might be wrong, and people may have different reasons why the programming fails, but I have thought about my own position for a good 30 years and come to the above conclusion.

I think your point about fear of death is VERY important. It's time people realised that people DIE. Mothers, fathers, friends. We are all going to die. I think once you accept that, your life changes.

 

I don't understand the attitude of the so-called religious. They believe in heaven or paradise. If you believe in that, then surely death is something to rejoice, your mother, father, gran, whatever has "gone to the arms of Jesus" or some other equally banal mush. So why are you sobbing and crying and wearing black.  You should be celebrating. They've got out of this misbegotten existence that we are now forced into, and gone to a better place.

 

If you don't believe in the mush, you just cease to exist. Again, you have no more pain, no more suffering and you are no longer a slave, trying to stay alive to be controlled by assholes in blue! 

[Bee]

10 hours ago, A_Grand_Tale_Of_Horror said:

I've had 4 run ins and a disaplinary at work. I've been angrier and less tolerant of others after so much conflict.

 

I've not changed as a person, everyone has changed around me. All I want to do is earn my pay, buy my food and go home. Not much to ask is it?

 

I've already had to fight not to take mandatory covid tests. I imagine this week I'll be in HR again when I refuse the vaccine.

 

Stay strong everyone.

Good for you for standing up to them - I really admire you :)

[Bee]

7 hours ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

Our brains are wired differently to theirs.

We are superior to them spiritually.

I'm not a spiritual person to be honest and have never been religious.

[Bee]

6 hours ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

I have a long-term aversion to bullshit too, which maybe helps.

Ah but that's the crux of my question really, you are able to detect the bullshit. Why is it that most people seem unable (or unwilling?) to?

 

I've thought about it a lot and can't come up with an answer I can absolutely accept.  I am a run of the mill person, certainly nothing special. Always different in that I have always been insatiably curious, have always questioned things and have never believed the world is at it is presented to us by governments and media etc. To me that's natural and plain common sense. I've never understood people who blindly believe in what they are told by so called authority figures; it just doesn't make any logical sense to me. I have always disliked organised religion and have no spiritual beliefs at all. I think the majority of humankind have always had an innate and powerful fear of death and over the years has used its imagination to come up with all sorts of explanations and comfort blankets, religion being the primary example.

[Ziggy Sawdust]

4 hours ago, Bee said:

I'm not a spiritual person to be honest and have never been religious.

 

A) We are all spiritual beings.

B) Who mentioned religion?

[Bee]

Just now, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

A) We are all spiritual beings.

B) Who mentioned religion?

With respect, "We are all spiritual beings" is simply your opinion and not one I share. Where is your proof (not belief) that we are "all spiritual beings"?

 

I mentioned religion as it is often spoken of alongside spirituality and I have no investment or personal belief in either. I view spirituality much like the same sort of comfort blanket that many of humankind use religion for, to combat fear of death, to deal with grief, to deal with the unknown and to try and explain the chaos and evil in the world etc.

 

It's up to each individual what they chose to believe. I don't do blind faith - I am an evidenced based person. Whilst I have experienced some things I cannot explain I accept that I can't explain them. I don't jump on many of the spiritual band wagons on offer. Each to their own :)

[Ziggy Sawdust]

2 minutes ago, Bee said:

With respect, "We are all spiritual beings" is simply your opinion and not one I share. Where is your proof (not belief) that we are "all spiritual beings"?

 

I mentioned religion as it is often spoken of alongside spirituality and I have no investment or personal belief in either. I view spirituality much like the same sort of comfort blanket that many of humankind use religion for, to combat fear of death, to deal with grief, to deal with the unknown and to try and explain the chaos and evil in the world etc.

 

It's up to each individual what they chose to believe. I don't do blind faith - I am an evidenced based person. Whilst I have experienced some things I cannot explain I accept that I can't explain them. I don't jump on many of the spiritual band wagons on offer. Each to their own :)

 

Yes, it is my opinion and I respect your right to disagree with me.

I'll give you an example of spirituality..........A cat (an animal) will walk past its dead brother on the floor and not give a fuck.

If you came across your dead brother I think you'll find you'd act far differently. That is due to your spirituality. Something the cat doesn't have.

[Bee]

13 minutes ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

Yes, it is my opinion and I respect your right to disagree with me.

I'll give you an example of spirituality..........A cat (an animal) will walk past its dead brother on the floor and not give a fuck.

If you came across your dead brother I think you'll find you'd act far differently. That is due to your spirituality. Something the cat doesn't have.

You are making assumptions again. I certainly wouldn't care about walking by my brother if he was dead and I am sure the feeling is mutual. Not all of us come from loving, nurturing families.

 

Animals are extremely capable of giving a f*ck (in your terminology) and are more than capable of mourning their dead and reacting to death. If you are genuinely unaware of this then there is plenty of evidence for it. I've had cats all my life and can say from personal experience that you are wrong. So your assumption that a cat wouldn't care if it walked past its dead sibling is another assumption in a bid to justify the existence of 'spirituality'; with respect, your argument holds no water and offers no proof of the existence of spirituality whatsoever.

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[Ziggy Sawdust]

9 minutes ago, Bee said:

 I certainly wouldn't care about walking by my brother if he was dead

 

[CAC]

26 minutes ago, Bee said:

With respect, "We are all spiritual beings" is simply your opinion and not one I share. Where is your proof (not belief) that we are "all spiritual beings"?

 

I mentioned religion as it is often spoken of alongside spirituality and I have no investment or personal belief in either. I view spirituality much like the same sort of comfort blanket that many of humankind use religion for, to combat fear of death, to deal with grief, to deal with the unknown and to try and explain the chaos and evil in the world etc.

 

It's up to each individual what they chose to believe. I don't do blind faith - I am an evidenced based person. Whilst I have experienced some things I cannot explain I accept that I can't explain them. I don't jump on many of the spiritual band wagons on offer. Each to their own :)

 

You hit the nail on the head when you say spirituality has been enmeshed and conflated with religion, which is why I think some people shun or play down their spiritual side because they know religion is a man-made fraud (I believe "God" exists, but as the infinite potential of all that exists and does not exist, not an individual or supernatural being).

 

You mentioned about being "different" as a child and appeared sensitive to situations.

 

To me, that is part of your spiritual life because spirituality is essentially all non-physical "senses" or the non-physical part of us.

 

I am not, and have never been, religious, but I would say I am relatively spiritual because I have experienced non-physical phenomena, such as psychic/premonatory events, and even out-of-body experiences, but I just see them as part of our being and nothing unusual.

 

I can't prove these things, and I don't expect anyone else to share my beliefs, but I would suggest to you that you have a think about any events which you may consider "non-physical" or "spiritual" phenomena that has happened to you, and whether you think these things originate from an internal or external physical plain or internal/external non-physical plain.

[Bee]

21 hours ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

Judge me all you like, I couldn't give a toss. You've never met my brother. Blood most certainly isnt always thicker than water I can assure you.

[Mikheil]

50 minutes ago, Bee said:

Judge me all you like, I couldn't give a toss. You've never met my brother. Blood most certainly isnt always thicker than water I can assure you.

Coming from a family who all hated each other and all especially hated my grandfather because he called a spade a spade, I share your feelings. If they are dead, they are out of this inglorious fuck up that people have made for themselves. It's never getting better, only worse. The best times were the 1960's, nothing like that is ever coming back and I shudder to think what will happen in the next 80 years.

Edited March 31, 2021 by Mikheil

[Ziggy Sawdust]

2 hours ago, Bee said:

Judge me all you like, I couldn't give a toss. You've never met my brother. Blood most certainly isnt always thicker than water I can assure you.

 

Sorry to hear that.

I lost my only brother to a heart attack 17 years ago and still miss him terribly.

[Bee]

49 minutes ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

Sorry to hear that.

I lost my only brother to a heart attack 17 years ago and still miss him terribly.

Im sorry for your loss but just because you loved your brother doesnt mean everyone feels the same about theirs.

[Ziggy Sawdust]

38 minutes ago, Bee said:

Im sorry for your loss but just because you loved your brother doesnt mean everyone feels the same about theirs.

 

Fair enough.

[Divona]

On 3/28/2021 at 1:59 PM, Bee said:

Hahahaha...come to Israel and see, they made the bus drivers and ticket inspectors in charge of telling you by speaker to put the mask on, people in the street behind you while walk feel entitled to tell you, last week a major dep. store put a sign that you cannot go inside if you are not vaccinated, but they were forced to remove it, you cannot go to an hotel, gym, theater and much more without showing your "green passport", my family told me not to come to passover dinner because i am not vaccinated, but this was one of the good things about the situation, i soon have to return to the world and get a job and i just cannot face the situation, i really do not know how i am going to be hired if i do not comply to be vaccinated- and i won't!

 

[Pina Colada]

On 3/28/2021 at 11:59 AM, Bee said:

I went to the supermarket yesterday and as I picked up an item I heard a voice behind me say "mask". I ignored it and put the item in my trolley. The man who had said "mask" then pulled his trolley up next to mine and said "Where's your mask? You should be wearing a mask!" in a really aggressive tone. I said "Why is it any of your business?" to which he said "It is my business if I catch it because of someone like you!". I said said "I'm medically exempt from wearing a mask". He still wouldn't let it go and after a year of putting up with this rubbish I totally lost my temper. I said "Do me a favour you vile little being and f*ck of and mind your own f*cking business you ignorant moron!". He was evidently shocked and scuttled off as fast as his legs could carry him. I have never in my life behaved like this (shouted and sworn at someone in public), it's simply not me but after a year I have had enough of all the masked mushrooms (happy to be kept in the dark and fed on sh*t) and can't/won't tolerate them any more.

 

I was shaking with temper when a lady then approached me and said to me "I'm horrified!". I thought she was going to have a go at me for telling the man to f off but it was the complete opposite. She said she couldn't believe that had happened to me, that the man had felt he had the right to speak to me and behave in that way. I explained to her that many mask exempt people get verbally abused all the time. I could see that she was genuinely shocked and horrified. I really appreciated that she took the time to see if i was ok and to talk to me about it. 

 

I was discussing it with the lady at the checkout and she said that they get really horrible, vile, nasty people in every day and I was sorry to hear what the staff are subjected to on a daily basis. She can't wait to retire and said that the covid situation has shown people for what they truly are and that she would rather spend her time with animals than people. I wholeheartedly agreed :)

 

Have any of you been through similar? I've been challenged before and responded sharply but yesterday I just couldn't stand it anymore and completely lost my temper. He was very lucky that the cucumber I was getting didn't end right up one of his orifices, vile little man.

Was just going thru the thread looking at other people's experiences of harassment in supermarkets, I'd missed this thread.