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what is your take on the current AstraZeneca suspension?

 

Is it just some 4D chest by cult or local health agencies who didn’t get bought off by cult is revolting against central agencies like EMA/WHO?

 

my guess is the current “scientific consensus” on vaccine and covid is similar to the “global warming consensus”.

 

Few high ranking scientists in key places are bought off and Willfully participating in the scam. Most other well-intentioned but misguided scientists simply submitting to their superiors and being misled. 

 

When there are sufficient evidences to break the narrative, the misled scientists will actually revolt and break from the consensus.

 

That’s my optimistic take...

 

 

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Optimist!

 

I guess it isn't THAT important, they've already given "The Jab" to millions. They still have Moderna and J&J  and who knows what else.

 

I'm not sure that Putin is moronic and prepared to kill / sterilize his population, BUT, if you remember there was talk of Russia "collaborating with AstraZeneca". Was that collaboration, making sure that any countries importing Sputnik V actually get AstraZeneca in a Sputnik V ampoule / vial?

 

I wouldn't take ANY vaccine.

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Personally I think it’s to create the illusion that there is a ‘safe’ Covid 19 vaccine rather then the truth that NONE are safe. So some people will suddenly want one type more rather then being sceptical, and maybe even to make brits be more patriotic about the AZ jab and be more likely to receive it in protest - which is sadly the additive I have seen with some people. I see some ‘shortages, have been created with the EU madness too and on a psychological level that makes people want something more if they feel it’s in short supply. I know how well that trick works too - when there was a shortage of loo roll and pasta in first lockdown for some reason I wanted those items more even though I knew I had enough! 

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On 3/18/2021 at 10:07 AM, johnkim said:

what is your take on the current AstraZeneca suspension?

 

Is it just some 4D chest by cult or local health agencies who didn’t get bought off by cult is revolting against central agencies like EMA/WHO?

 

my guess is the current “scientific consensus” on vaccine and covid is similar to the “global warming consensus”.

 

Few high ranking scientists in key places are bought off and Willfully participating in the scam. Most other well-intentioned but misguided scientists simply submitting to their superiors and being misled. 

 

When there are sufficient evidences to break the narrative, the misled scientists will actually revolt and break from the consensus.

 

That’s my optimistic take...

 

 

 

My colleague at work pointed out something to me the other day, after hearing some chatter on Radio 4, he asked me "is this all political?"

 

It got me thinking, and I think it might be.

 

Lets not forget that the Oxford AstraZeneca jab was developed here in the UK. While the Pfizer jab was developed in Germany.

 

I pointed out in the mega-thread what he was told when he had his jab the other day - he was told by the administering nurse that they would only be providing the AstraZeneca vaccine from now on, and the Pfizer vaccine was not being offered to anyone in the UK.

 

Its an interesting correlation how countries in the EU are now 'slipping back' into lockdown, with 'cases' supposedly on the rise again, while the UK appears on the surface to be on the 'road to recovery', with cases and deaths receding.

 

It wouldn't surprise me if there was some political posturing going on behind the scenes.

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I have had several letters from the local clinic although I haven't been to a doctor in years. I suppose I will have to inform them not to waste time with me.
I ought to offer my services as a psychologist, given I specialised in hysteria.

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I doubt it will kill my friends but what will kill people in the long run will be lack of an immune system. I doubt you can avoid serious epidemics by trying to negate each one that appears over time.
Family who always had flu jabs got nailed in the third year. I was more or less fine.
Only had bad case of gastroentiritis 4 years ago.

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