The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion

[Seconal]

Now classed as antisemitic propaganda, this once illegal book after all copies where destroyed by fire and the ownership of which would be punished by a Russian firing squad lends to the perception that, as the author states, the contents of the book are entirely true.

 

- DARE TO READ THE PROTOCOLS OF ZION

 

https://www.pdfdrive.com/the-protocols-of-the-learned-elders-of-zion-d199663794.html

 

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Edited March 17, 2021 by Seconal

[Seconal]

[Seconal]

[gregory-peccary]

The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion are a known fake ad have been known to be fake for decades. I have a printed pamphlet debunking them from the 1980s. I have a copy of The Protocols too!

[Seconal]

"Romeo & Juliet is also 'fake', they never existed, it never happened, but the story therein, well I'll let others decide truth for themselves".

 

Hey guys, he has a 'Printed Pamphlet'

 

In 1935 a Swiss judge, presiding at a trial of two Swiss National Socialists charged with circulating the Protocols, wrote:

 

'I hope that one day there will come a time when no one will any longer comprehend how in the year 1935 almost a dozen fully sensible and reasonable men could for fourteen days torment their brains before a court of Berne over the authenticity or lack of authenticity of these so-called Protocols... that, for all the harm they have already caused and may yet cause, are nothing but ridiculous nonsense'.

 

Unfortunately, the judge’s hope has not yet been fully realized. There are still those anti-Semites and their willing audiences who remain ready to circulate and believe this fantasy of hate.

Edited March 17, 2021 by Seconal

[Mr Chinnery]

The protocols are in William Coopers Behold a Pale Horse, a book written in the the late 80s or early 90's.

 

 

Cooper also mentioned Global 2000 and depopulation through a forced vaccine. That's fake too...

[JaneH]

My father had copy back in the 1960's...very old and well read and pages all yellowy....quite interesting though flicking through it one afternoon back in the day before computers

[Seconal]

I wouldn't say that its the Jews that is simplistic, this is bigger than religion and certainly the lay followers of any religion. Call then elite or Illuminati whether Jewish or not these globalists exist and this plan seems to be more evolutionary given mans nature than revolutionary even if it is planned it doesn't seem totally unnatural.

 

Here's the kicker, I found myself in agreement with the protocols. I've no love for the unwashed masses they are self destructive and to any historian their decadence is not sustainable.

 

Question is does the greater good justify the means. To me that depends on what kind of future one can envision and the will to make manifest and why would one take on such a burden, the burden of planting seeds under which they'll never take shade, see no promised land, well it must come from the love of man.

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

16 hours ago, gregory-peccary said:

The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion are a known fake ad have been known to be fake for decades. I have a printed pamphlet debunking them from the 1980s.

So a 'fact checker' from the 80's say's NO...?
The Times article was written by a known Government 'agent'.
BC

[Seconal]

As if the victims, wether it be true or not, wouldn't vehemently deny it.

 

To be fair it was on a 'printed pamphlet', so...

Edited March 18, 2021 by Seconal

[Seconal]

I've been racking my brains out as to why such an elite, illumined and educated group would allow this work to be released.

 

Then it struck me 'Cui bono', to who's profit and I remembered the Samurai would always make their first open move a deception.

 

Total control means playing both sides against the middle, hedging ones bets, arming both the rebels and the Army. This book, although it's contents are true, won't serve anyone to undermine their plans because in the hands of their opposition, the Christian/Western/Capitalists, it will only serve to ignite a war between Communism and Capitalism.

 

Following two world wars and the cold war, no one has stopped this plan from unfolding even when they where told about it, for as beasts predictable man acted out of tribalistic patriotic irrational fears and lust for power.

 

Predictable, dumb and destructive. We are but Cavemen with technology....the Electric Barbarian.

 

Create a problem in opposition and come their conflict, offer resultion through solution.

 

Simple as ABC. Always Be Conspiring.

 

Edited March 18, 2021 by Seconal

[karantanc]

On 3/17/2021 at 8:11 PM, gregory-peccary said:

The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion are a known fake ad have been known to be fake for decades. I have a printed pamphlet debunking them from the 1980s. I have a copy of The Protocols too!

The Protocols are fake, but the real world is 100% functioning the way protocols are describing. Bank(st)ers run the Western world exactly as Protocols describe it. The main driver is the promotion of hatred: between nations, between races, between religions, between left and right political options, between ideologies, between men and feminists ...

Probably just a coincidence. 

If a theory isn't in accordance with facts,  so much the worse for the facts. 

[karantanc]

3. It must be noted that men with bad instincts are more in number than the good, and therefore the best results in governing them are attained by violence and terrorisation, and not by academic discussions. Every man aims at power, everyone would like to become a dictator if only he could, and rare indeed are the men who would not be willing to sacrifice the welfare of all for the sake of securing their own welfare.

 

4. What has restrained the beasts of prey who are called men? What has served for their guidance hitherto?  

 

5. In the beginnings of the structure of society, they were subjected to brutal and blind force; after words - to Law, which is the same force, only disguised. I draw the conclusion that by the law of nature right lies in force.

 

 6. Political freedom is an idea but not a fact. This idea one must know how to apply whenever it appears necessary with this bait of an idea to attract the masses of the people to one's party for the purpose of crushing another who is in authority. This task is rendered easier of the opponent has himself been infected with the idea of freedom, SO-CALLED LIBERALISM, and, for the sake of an idea, is willing to yield  some of his power. It is precisely here that the triumph of our theory appears; the slackened reins of government are immediately, by the law of life, caught up and gathered together by a new hand, because the blind might of the nation cannot for one single day exist without guidance, and the new authority merely fits into the place of the old already weakened by liberalism.

 

7. In our day the power which has replaced that of the rulers who were liberal is the power of Gold (money). Time was when Faith ruled. The idea of freedom is impossible of realization because no one knows how to use it with moderation. It is enough to hand over a people to self-government for a certain length of time for that people to be turned into a disorganized mob. From that moment on we get internecine strife  which soon develops into battles between classes, in the midst of which States burn down and their importance is reduced to that of a heap of ashes.

 

 8. Whether a State exhausts itself in its own convulsions, whether its internal discord brings it under the power of external foes - in any case it can be accounted irretrievable lost: IT IS IN OUR POWER. The despotism of Capital, which is entirely in our hands, reaches out to it a straw that the State, willynilly, must take hold of: if not - it goes to the bottom.

 

http://www.xroads.virginia.edu/~MA01/Kidd/thesis/pdf/protocols.pdf

Edited March 28, 2021 by karantanc

[Seconal]

The fact is for all our so called capitalist economy we do in fact have socialism ingrained within it. Taxes are socialist. Everyone chipping in to pay for things we all use, yet rich pay more and poor pay less or none yet we all have equal access.

 

In the UK the NHS in the USA public schools, roads etc these are all forms of communism. A purely capitalist system couldn't survive as by its nature wealth becomes ever more concentrated. So even in capitalist systems we have redistribution of wealth to keep a general balance, although still concentrated the scales never break for tax and social programmes keep the poor in the game.

 

On the flip side complete communism also fails as our nature just moves the rich private money owners into government and rich money controllers such as Putin for example. The disparity between rich and poor and control classes remain the same.I

 

In life we are naturally communist within our families and capitalist outside, as private entities. As we expand into national and international commerce and we develop common interests and codependancies between capitalist entities, we require a balanced mixture of capitalism and socialism to further expand into international commerce. Then the obvious move is towards globalist commerce where socialism helps develop less developed nations and capitalism help maintain strong competition and progression.

 

This is known by economists yet the division is but a tool to keep the lay man divided and like feudalism, fighting each other that they can be easily controlled and kept in the working class, ever working towards the aim of defeating there opposition.

 

Ever working, never winning, thus ever supporting a ruling class.

[karantanc]

THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION
TABLE OF CONTENTS

Who are the Elders?
Protocol I The Basic Doctrine
Protocol II Economic Wars
Protocol III Methods of Conquest
Protocol IV Materialism Replace Religion
Protocol V Despotism and Modern Progress
Protocol VI Take-Over Technique
Protocol VII World-Wide Wars
Protocol VIII Provisional Government
Protocol IX Re-education
Protocol X Preparing for Power
Protocol XI The Totalitarian State
Protocol XII Control of the Press
Protocol XIII Distractions
Protocol XIV Assault on Religion
Protocol XV Ruthless Suppression
Protocol XVI Brainwashing
Protocol XVII Abuse of Authority
Protocol XVIII Arrest of Opponents
Protocol XIX Rulers and People
Protocol XX Financial Programme
Protocol XXI Loans and Credit
Protocol XXII Power of Gold (Money)
Protocol XXIII Instilling Obedience
Protocol XXIV Qualities of the Ruler

 

http://www.xroads.virginia.edu/~MA01/Kidd/thesis/pdf/protocols.pdf

Edited March 30, 2021 by karantanc

[Seconal]

It reads like a Communist Sociological Study, yet blaming the Jews, histories scape goats.

[Seconal]

It all goes back to ancient prophecies, Gods and races, holy books and prophets. Who are the best people and who will rule the world and who has the best God and who he loves most and who he does magic for and who he will take to heaven.

 

Edited April 6, 2021 by Seconal

[Hegel Schmegel]

This irrational, obscene, and pervasive blaming of the Jews, this twisted and simple-minded perception of the Jew as global conspirator is in my opinion satanic, dates back to far ancient times, but in the modern era has its roots in these Illuminati-authored/inspired Protocols, a collection of documents conveniently discovered in the early 1900s and later believed by many a (neo)Nazi and self-perceived online pundit as being authentic. It's been disproved as a hoax and was produced in order to deflect attention from the so-called illuminated ones, whose orphic knowledge and powers originate with the Watchers.

 

Obviously, there is much more to it than that. There is much complexity at work, involving interconnected secret orders, agencies, factions, circles within circles, but they all ultimately lead back to these Luciferians, regardless of heritage, who control from the shadows and darkness and who answer to their otherworldly/interdimensional diabolic masters, who must look upon in absolute appreciation their globally dispersed choir of unwitting mouthpieces -- the vocal and brainwashed Jew-basher, perpetually kept off track, on endless repetitive tangents, and none the wiser.

[Macnamara]

On 3/17/2021 at 6:46 PM, Seconal said:

Now classed as antisemitic propaganda

 

why would you bring it up then?

 

are you trying to get this forum into trouble?

[Hegel Schmegel]

Tarek Fatah, a Muslim of Pakistani origin, has written a highly readable book titled The Jew Is Not My Enemy. In it, he comments on The Protocols, noting that it was condemned as being a forgery by the London Times back in the 1920s, that it was originally perpetuated by the secret police in Russia, commissioned by the Czar, in order to counteract the rise of Marxism at the time, and label it a Jewish conspiracy and part of a plot to eventually control the world. Mr. Fatah notes that the Protocols are what have fueled much of the anti-Semitism in the Muslim world ever since. Here is a Muslim, who thinks the Jews ought to have a homeland, who is pro-Israel, and who has in the presence of fellow Muslims come to the defense of the Jews and for doing so has been accused by fellow members of his faith of working on behalf of the Jewish lobby! This is how deep the paranoia runs within the minds of certain people.

 

One must remember that within this context there is something like only 14 million Jews in the entire world compared to over 1 billion Muslims. With that said, something obscure called Noahide is supposed to be a threat to international freedom? What a laugh. Aside from the many other legitimate threats to global freedom, there is sharia law. As Muslim writers other than Mr. Fatah have written about themselves -- moderate Muslims who love Jews and Western democracy founded on Judeo-Christian principles -- there exists a small but significant percentage of Muslims who are Islamist extremists with designs of their own for global domination, via what they term cultural or civilization jihad, working in cahoots with the politically correct Far Left. Among these are Black supremacists whose favorite book happens to be The Protocols.

 

Although a non-Jew myself, I simply can't understand all this Jew-bashing that goes on by some people. Jews have been blamed for practically everything since at least the beginning of recorded history, from Communism to crony Capitalism to being spendthrifts and miserly. In times past, even in lands that were relatively free, their businesses have been boycotted and they've been restricted from entering places like restaurants, hotels, and clubs. All this loathing for the Jew throughout history, pre-1948, has had nothing to do with Israeli wrongs or the Middle East situation. As the lead character in the movie, The Believer, a skinhead, remarks, Jews are hated simply because they are Jews.

 

It goes without saying (but for some people it must be said) that there is so much the Jewish people have contributed to the world, in the way of artists, inventors, scientists, and comedians. (Incidentally, compare the amount of Jewish comics to Arab ones, if there even is such a thing. Heck, a simple cartoon is enough to cause certain ones to get their knickers in a twist.)

 

Interestingly, and as a refreshing contrast to The Protocols, author Nigel Kerner in his book Grey Aliens And The Harvesting Of Souls has speculated that there exists within the Jewish Diaspora an uncontaminated bloodline to this day -- one that hasn't been corrupted by ET genetic tampering, and that this is what the Nazis were seeking to eradicate and what he surmises is at the root of the modern-day Alien Abduction phenomenon: specifically, Grays in search of this pure Judaic bloodline, so as to dilute it with alien DNA.

 

An interesting passage also occurs in a book titled The Key, authored by Whitley Strieber. In it, the interviewee, a mysterious figure whom the author has dubbed the 'Master of the Key,' puts forth the idea that among the millions of Jews who were murdered in the Holocaust, among these were a few that would have seen to mankind's ultimate advancement as a species.

Edited May 2, 2021 by Hegel Schmegel
typo

[Prometheus]

I think the Protocols may have been written by the Jesuits for the Church of Rome using the Jews as scape goats that as their agenda for world domination and control of all Earths resources for the past two thousand years and some, their people the Christians will forever blame the Jews for the relentless progression of globalisation under the new world order.

 

If any organisation has the power, will and ability to control the world, who's leader Gods Vicar on Earth and who's ring is kissed by every President, Royal and Prime Minister....it is undoubtedly the Pope of the Roman Catholic Church of the Holy Roman Empire.

[Hegel Schmegel]

There are those who are of the opinion that the centuries-old Illuminati are an offshoot of Sabbatian-Frankism. I would respond by saying that it's probably the other way around. Too much emphasis, I feel, has been placed on the identity of this existent "Death Cult" as somehow being interconnected with this SF element out to control Israel and the world, which in my view, even if true to some extent, only ends up muddying the waters and creating a convenient deflection for overt or crypto anti-Semitic readers, followers, and Arab Nazis to latch onto, magnify, and become mired in their infallibly perceived vocal and printed echo chambers. The sincerely expressed sentiments contained in the Protocols are undoubtedly Illuminati-inspired and much of its contents, as others have noted, has been put into global action by the actual devotees of its ghostwriters who are satanic at their core, never-minding their irrelevant heritage. The Jewish connection was, according to some astute and objective researchers, a clever and later addition to the documents as part of a disinformation exercise designed to divert attention to the scapegoats, and in effect causing a century of hatred for an Illuminati-despised people, culminating in the horrific Holocaust and its loathsome deniers, who continue to this day, primarily among the "Mideast Beast" countries, that have tremendous influence on the minds of many a suggestible and bigoted ignoramus, via their one-sided propaganda-laced broadcasting.

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

1 hour ago, Hegel Schmegel said:

culminating in the horrific Holocaust and its loathsome deniers,

Do you believe the 6 million story ?
ls anyone who questions the actual numbers 'loathsome' ?
 

[Strummer101]

1 hour ago, Basket Case said:

Do you believe the 6 million story ?
ls anyone who questions the actual numbers 'loathsome' ?
 

To my mind yes, as it always just a thin disguise for out-and-out Jew Hatred, for it's own sake. Witness endless examples on this very website, I can name names if required.

 

Have you been to Auschwitz, Birkenau, Drancy, Warsaw, Mauthausen, Antwerp, Amsterdam, Krakow, Budapest, Prague....these places bear witness? Luckily, I have been. Once you have, then you may find a different perspective.

 

Protocols? Long-discredited fabrication, everyone knows this. Nonetheless part of Hamas Covenant still, as far as I know.

 

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

6 minutes ago, Strummer101 said:

To my mind yes

Not that l was asking you, but yes to which question ? Or both of them ?

l've been to Prague, Warsaw, Budapest, Krakow and many other places in Eastern Europe, many times....
You're not the only one who's been around.