Where does the idea we are moving into the 5th dimension come from?

[Seeker]

For years various spiritual researchers say that we are moving into the 5th dimension, where everything will be great and paradise. I am curious as to where this idea comes from? Similar question to ‘the great awakening’ that humanity will have. Yes more people have woken up, but not many at all, no where near enough. Imo once enough people are vaccinated with this demon juice then it is game over for us. I am 99.9% sure it will affect people’s brains, their spirituality as a result, and fertility, leading to our extinction, or assimilation as DI brilliantly explains. 

 

Is this idea of a great awakening/ 5th dimension some sort of new age psyop that some researchers have fallen into? A way to make us think, something is coming to save us, but never will

[Mr H]

Most likely from some hip young dude on the 1970s in California just came up with it one day whilst getting high! :) 

 

Yeah, I've heard about this stuff too and have had some people trying to explain it cosmologically, nothing satisfying.

 

I think at the end of the day, we have two choices (in this example!) we can go with beliefs and live our life from there. Or we can, if we fancy check out our beliefs and see if they align with our actual experience. In this particular context, if when I open my eyes and what I am looking at, is the enlightened age of Aquarius, then I dread to think what the age of Capricorn will be like!

[Itsa]

Here's rapper KRS ones take on it.

 

 

[shadowmoon]

The Law of One, also known as the Ra Material, is a series of books that were allegedly channeled by Carla Rueckert, Don Elkins, and Jim McCarty between 1981 and 1984.

 

 

 

It may have come from those books, very interesting but there is tons of reading.

 

https://www.lawofone.info/

[CONFIRMED_REPTILIAN]

Seems to originate from theosophy. At least that’s where Icke got it from.

[Truthspoon]

To think David Wilcock was telling everyone we'd all be able to fly in 2012.

 

It was all clearly disinformation to fill people's heads with bullshit while they bang the final nails in for their New World Order.

 

I won't even say it was clever because it wasn't, but it's alarming that David Wilcock had and continues to have support and followers.

 

Boggles the mind. What is wrong with people?

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 21, 2021 by Truthspoon

[Dawn]

Yeah I was just mulling over today how  much feel good bs there is in the spiritual community. And some of it I do believe to be maliciously inserted as well. 
 

The law of one stuff, for instance...rubbish. We are not all one. That philosophy teaches the enlightened to turn a blind eye to the injustice in the world because we are all part of a whole or it is simply a reflection of their shadow self.. Yeah, nice play.. teaching people who are awake to injustice to be complacent. 

 

Another spiritual teaching that irks me is that we are the creators of our own reality. That is true.. in a sense. But they convey it as if you hit every traffic light on the way to work because you are unbalanced, didn’t meditate that week..or whatever. The blame is placed on you, when really the fear matrix is systematically fucking with you. You get to choose how to react (or ideally not react) to what the fear matrix throws at you. But the shit it throws your way is not solicited by you, other than it knows what annoys you. 
 

Love is the key Soulmates and all that.... Pretty sure that’s a con as well. They convince us that we are missing half of ourselves when really we are the full package. Every master of invention or master of spiritual practice spent vast amounts of time alone.

 

And the 5th dimension stuff, yeah...I think that is just parroting...a concept that got latched onto. People pretend to know the characteristics of each of the dimensions. “My ascended master 8th dimension Arcturian spirit guide...” It’s irritating to have to weed through all the people playing make believe to find kernels of truth. 
 

I am definitely at the stage in my journey where I have a ton more questions than answers, but the best spiritual strategy I’ve pieced together so far is to simply not give a shit. The matrix doesn’t know how to engage with you if it doesn’t know what you want or how to make you crazy. 

[QueenRia]

On 3/22/2021 at 6:43 AM, Dawn said:

The law of one stuff, for instance...rubbish. We are not all one.

Doesn't David Icke say the same thing though? I seem to remember him mentioning this in one of the Brian Rose interviews

This doesn't negate the fact that we're manifesting in a 3D world of duality where there is good and evil, and where we are meant to also take physical action (as opposed to escaping into a spiritual lala land).

[Mr H]

42 minutes ago, QueenRia said:

Doesn't David Icke say the same thing though? I seem to remember him mentioning this in one of the Brian Rose interviews

This doesn't negate the fact that we're manifesting in a 3D world of duality where there is good and evil, and where we are meant to also take physical action (as opposed to escaping into a spiritual lala land).

I think he does. But imo it's better to check with your own experience if this is true or not.

 

In my experience it is the case when I check out my experience. Indeed, my perceptions all point out that we are all individual discrete entities. But when I investigate perception and reduce it down, all there is, is knowing. I.E. 1. I see a person->seeing->knowing of->pure knowing which we could substitute with the word consciousness. All experience when we investigate can be reduced to knowing/consciousness. This is our essential being - in that unlike everything else we experience it is the one thing only that remains constant in our experience. This is who we essentially are.

 

This does not absolve us of right action when appropriate as it is presented to us as a body mind in the illusion that we experience. Indeed, with the understanding I have described above, the sharing of our essential being - our actions will be informed by love - because "treat others as you would like to be treated" - it's not intelligent to essentially harm ourselves.

 

It's a very subtle understanding. And it's often misinterpreted by many to go down some kind of apathetic existence,  or communist hive mind route, or we shouldn't have seemingly individualist expression whilst experiencing the illusion-  but it is actually the opposite once properly understood.

 

The word illusion also causes much confusion because people seem to think this means something is not real. Illusions are very real, it just means it is not as it seems. A mirage in the desert is very real, but when you walk up to it andtake a look, it's nature is very different to what you thought it was. Same is the case with our experience.

[Macnamara]

On 3/10/2021 at 5:57 AM, Seeker said:

For years various spiritual researchers say that we are moving into the 5th dimension, where everything will be great and paradise.

 

well bare in mind that the new age movement has its roots in the occult world and people in that world very much have their own agendas

 

so if we consider the final goal of the conspirators and then reverse engineer things we can start to make sense of a lot of things

 

So if we consider that the goal of the conspirators is to create  one world government run by them that uses a technocratic system to control a vastly reduced population along satanic principles of for example eugenics then we can work backwards and start to see how some of these movements that pretend to be grassroots in fact feed into that agenda

 

For example on the climate side of things you could look at the extremely well funded 'extinction rebellion' group with their occult logo and consider how their actions of attacking fossil fuel use all helps to shoehorn society into the new electric and digital technocracy. A technocracy is a system that monitors everyones energy use down to the last kilojoule in order to ration their use of energy under the excuse of combatting 'climate change'

 

In order to measure every kilojoule of energy that you use the technocrats have to be able to gather data on EVERYTHING you are doing from being in a vehicle to riding on a bicycle to talking on a phone to brushing your teeth or sleeping in your bed. This is why they intend to make EVERYTHING 'smart' which is to say interconnected through wifi so that every single appliance you use will then send back that data to a central artificial intelligence that will control and monitor your energy useage and cut you off when you go over your allowance

 

The dangers of potential abuse are obvious for example who decides what each persons energy allowance is? Just as in communist china where the bloodline 'immortal' families who run the country live the high life of limousines and international travel and the best foods and homes whilst everyone else has to settle for less

 

For a technocracy to emerge society must become DIGITAL and ELECTRIC in order to gather all of this data. One thing that is much talked about is transhumanism and this could imo be talked about in a few different terms. if we take the elites to be satanists who despise Gods creation then of course they want to build a synthetic faximile so that they can become the lords of creation. Similarly if they want to cull large swathes of the population then they must dull them down and virtual reality can become the new opiate of the masses

 

So when new agers talk about shifting into a new reality i personally think the trend is more towards virtual reality. On a more optimistic note i do believe that people who can CONSCIOUSLY understand all of this can make a DELIBERATE and CONSCIOUS choice to reject it in their life but i see very little movement on that score even amongst 'truthers' and the reality is that in order for an alternative to gain traction it would need a massive upswell of support to outweigh the momentum towards transhumanism and a permanent lockdown, technocratic slave plantation

Edited April 2, 2022 by Macnamara

[Grumpy Grapes]

I don't think it's coincidence that the New Age promotion of an imminent 'spiritual' transcendence is happening at the same time as the technological transhumanism movement. Both are connected, I believe, and are part of the the Ruling Elite's plan to destroy our individuality, rendering us 'cogs in the machine', submitting to a 'higher mind'. 

[Leo Littlebook]

The Law of One predicts a transition to 4thD.

 

It has been debunked, on their own forum:

https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=6239&pid=311228#pid311228

[DarianF]

Don't know about the 5th, but here is something on the 4th:

 

 

[JCP]

On 4/2/2022 at 8:44 AM, QueenRia said:

Doesn't David Icke say the same thing though? I seem to remember him mentioning this in one of the Brian Rose interviews

 

I have never heard David Icke say that we're not all one or from the same consciousness.

 

We are all part of the same consciousness - David Icke - Brian Rose Interview

 

DAVID ICKE - WE ARE ALL ONE

 

[JCP]

Dr Joe Dispenza - The Key To The 5th Dimension Using Quantum Physics - Bending Reality

(FYI - In this video, Joe mentions moving in and out of the field 7.8 times per second. 7.83 hz is the schumann frequency - the frequency the earth resonates)

 

 

[tommydrifter]

On 3/10/2021 at 4:57 PM, Seeker said:

Is this idea of a great awakening/ 5th dimension some sort of new age psyop that some researchers have fallen into?

 

good question!

 

On 3/10/2021 at 4:57 PM, Seeker said:

I am curious as to where this idea comes from?

 

good question!

 

programming the subconscious mind:

• satellite infrastructure 
• carrier waves
• the human receiver-antenna

   ?

 

[78ast78dgyad]

On 3/10/2021 at 5:57 AM, Seeker said:

For years various spiritual researchers say that we are moving into the 5th dimension, where everything will be great and paradise. I am curious as to where this idea comes from? Similar question to ‘the great awakening’ that humanity will have. Yes more people have woken up, but not many at all, no where near enough. Imo once enough people are vaccinated with this demon juice then it is game over for us. I am 99.9% sure it will affect people’s brains, their spirituality as a result, and fertility, leading to our extinction, or assimilation as DI brilliantly explains. 

 

Is this idea of a great awakening/ 5th dimension some sort of new age psyop that some researchers have fallen into? A way to make us think, something is coming to save us, but never will

 

I think David Wilcock promoted it and said we would ascend

[78ast78dgyad]

On 4/8/2022 at 9:48 PM, tommydrifter said:

 

good question!

 

 

good question!

 

programming the subconscious mind:

• satellite infrastructure 
• carrier waves
• the human receiver-antenna

   ?

 

 

David Wilcock promoted the idea I believe

[tommydrifter]

david wilcock

x

[Seeker]

On 4/2/2022 at 2:23 PM, Macnamara said:

 

well bare in mind that the new age movement has its roots in the occult world and people in that world very much have their own agendas

 

so if we consider the final goal of the conspirators and then reverse engineer things we can start to make sense of a lot of things

 

So if we consider that the goal of the conspirators is to create  one world government run by them that uses a technocratic system to control a vastly reduced population along satanic principles of for example eugenics then we can work backwards and start to see how some of these movements that pretend to be grassroots in fact feed into that agenda

 

For example on the climate side of things you could look at the extremely well funded 'extinction rebellion' group with their occult logo and consider how their actions of attacking fossil fuel use all helps to shoehorn society into the new electric and digital technocracy. A technocracy is a system that monitors everyones energy use down to the last kilojoule in order to ration their use of energy under the excuse of combatting 'climate change'

 

In order to measure every kilojoule of energy that you use the technocrats have to be able to gather data on EVERYTHING you are doing from being in a vehicle to riding on a bicycle to talking on a phone to brushing your teeth or sleeping in your bed. This is why they intend to make EVERYTHING 'smart' which is to say interconnected through wifi so that every single appliance you use will then send back that data to a central artificial intelligence that will control and monitor your energy useage and cut you off when you go over your allowance

 

The dangers of potential abuse are obvious for example who decides what each persons energy allowance is? Just as in communist china where the bloodline 'immortal' families who run the country live the high life of limousines and international travel and the best foods and homes whilst everyone else has to settle for less

 

For a technocracy to emerge society must become DIGITAL and ELECTRIC in order to gather all of this data. One thing that is much talked about is transhumanism and this could imo be talked about in a few different terms. if we take the elites to be satanists who despise Gods creation then of course they want to build a synthetic faximile so that they can become the lords of creation. Similarly if they want to cull large swathes of the population then they must dull them down and virtual reality can become the new opiate of the masses

 

So when new agers talk about shifting into a new reality i personally think the trend is more towards virtual reality. On a more optimistic note i do believe that people who can CONSCIOUSLY understand all of this can make a DELIBERATE and CONSCIOUS choice to reject it in their life but i see very little movement on that score even amongst 'truthers' and the reality is that in order for an alternative to gain traction it would need a massive upswell of support to outweigh the momentum towards transhumanism and a permanent lockdown, technocratic slave plantation

Yep something doesn’t add up about it, I’m gonna post in the exposing new age gurus in a sec with some interesting videos

[Macnamara]

55 minutes ago, Seeker said:

Yep something doesn’t add up about it, I’m gonna post in the exposing new age gurus in a sec with some interesting videos

 

some of the new agey gurus had some transhumanistic vibes about them. I used to enjoy listening to terence mckenna but if you listen to his talk 'shamans amongst the machines' there is some unsettling transhumanist stuff in there and he also used to tlak baout 'self-replicating machine elfs' which sounds a bit like graphene nanotechnology to me!

 

I once spoke to an OTO member about transhumanism and they said 'its just evolution'.....i thought 'wow ok so that's how you see it'

 

Also ken wilber's website used to look all machine-like...not sure if it still does. So he'd be speaking about how we need to get beyond the 'i am' ego identity and then you'd go on his website and it was all robotic.....makes you wonder exactly what they want us to get beyond the 'i' in order to become....

Edited April 24, 2022 by Macnamara

[Macnamara]

18 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

makes you wonder exactly what they want us to get beyond the 'i' in order to become....

 

well they have rolled out the 'internet' across the planet like synapses of a giant brain

 

meanwhile they say they are working on 'artificial intelligence'

 

Then they make everything 'smart' which is to say connected to a central artificial intelligence through a wifi 'cloud' that they create through 5G

 

This means that the AI is then able to control EVERYTHING including driverless vehicles, satellites, military drones and missile systems, autonomous vehicles and everything down to the smart light bulbs in your house

 

Then they inject nanotechnology into the world population under the guise of fighting 'covid'. That nanotechnology makes them walking antenna that are now connected to the 5G cloud and therefore interfaced with the AI

 

So what is the AI? Well decades ago technology went through a quantum leap forward when the silicon microchip was created. Some people say that the microchip was created by reverse engineering 'alien' technology from a craft that crashed at rosewell however i wonder if that is too literal an interpretation of those events and that rosewell may in fact be a rose-well, vortex point on the worlds energy grid which enabled a sympathetic bridge to another dimension from which interdimensional entities gave deep state members the idea of how to create the silicon microchip so that the occult conduits working for the interdimensional entities can then use that technology to build a PHYSICAL vehicle or rather body for the intelligence that is controlling our 'physical realm' from an unseen dimension

 

That physical body they are creating is the 5G smart grid.

 

So the purpose of people going beyond the 'i' is to make them nodal points on the 5G smart grid as they become assimilated into the transhumanist hive mind through which they become helpless extensions of the central intelligence and lose their essential humanity

Edited April 24, 2022 by Macnamara

[XelNaga]

On 3/13/2021 at 11:26 PM, shadowmoon said:

The Law of One, also known as the Ra Material, is a series of books that were allegedly channeled by Carla Rueckert, Don Elkins, and Jim McCarty between 1981 and 1984.

 

 

 

It may have come from those books, very interesting but there is tons of reading.

 

https://www.lawofone.info/

No, Ra said that we are in 3rd density and should move to 4th, which makes sense.

 

The 5th dimension idea came from other channeled materials, which my gut tells me come from negative side.

[Macnamara]

5 minutes ago, XelNaga said:

No, Ra said that we are in 3rd density and should move to 4th, which makes sense.

 

I don't personally believe that this reality is suddenly going to shift. I think the reality is what we make it

 

I think it is US that have to shift. WE have to change

 

I don't think anyone wants to hear that though because it means that they actually have to do hard work on themselves and on their lives and it is much nicer to believe that we don't need to do anything except to wait for the reality around us to magically change

 

I believe we are in the bardo of harsh reality. This reality is HARD. We can however get what we need from this reality if we:

1) keep our focus

2) work hard

3) don't make bad decisions

 

Why this reality is so crap right now and so much harder then it needs to be is because:

1) people are not focussed

2) people are not working hard towards the right goals

3) people are making bad decisions

Edited April 24, 2022 by Macnamara

[MarcusOmouse]

Way back in 2012 I will never forget being confused by listening to Neil Kramer explaining how there will be no mass ooncsiousness shift, since the universe is far more finely tuned than that. He suggested that a window of opportunity was available for those willing to see it, or ready to accept it.

 

It was Kramer who subsequently  made it abundantly clear to me that every last soul is unique in both it's awareness and state of development.

This simulation doesn't work on clumsy mass transformation. It works extremely precisely and personally on every last one of us.

 

One of the best things I ever learned.