pi3141 Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 (edited) This is not a thread to bash Christianity, that's being done to death on many other threads, this is a thread to share what Christianity means to you. Now, I believe the Christs teachings have been co-opted into an organized religion and reduced to a load of Pagan orientated superstitious practices designed to feed the church money and power. However that was not Jesus's doing so now I've said that, nobody else has to and please don't bring up the Piso family I'm sure members here know all about that. Its my understanding that Jesus' message was a simple one. He came to put an end to the old ways, the rules of the Old Testament and create a New Testament or agreement with God. He basically said treat everyone as you wish to be treated, get outside occasionally, and take a day off once a week, you have a soul and you will go to heaven when you die. That was it as far as I can make out, he also pointed the way to self improvement as a means to improve your soul. He revealed spiritual teachings for this purpose 'easier for a rich man to get into heaven than it is to thread a camel through the eye of a needle' 'In my fathers house there are many mansions' Yes he said many other things like 'Resist not evil' and 'Love thy neighbor' but these are covered in the 'treat everyone as you wish to be treated' virtually everything is covered in that teaching. Some of these sayings are spiritual truths that are good for the soul. If we all followed this simple advice we would have heaven on earth, no wars,no crimes, charitable towards each other and civil in our dealings with each other. That to me was what Jesus was trying to establish, heaven on earth, as above so below. Jesus' sacrifice paved the way, he demonstrated what he taught - resist not evil, judge not others, even at the point of death me maintained his truth. Then he died for it. In this act he established his church, his story would go on to convert millions, it changed society and if we only followed his example it would be heaven on earth. There is no need for sacrifices or stonings, judge not, no need for churches and group prayer - 'if you must pray, pray in secret'no pagan rituals or superstitious beliefs required or payment for service like the selling of coins in the temple, the same scam goes on in the Roman Catholic church with the selling of special candles for particular ailments or events, its the monetization of religion, something Jesus was plainly against by kicking out the money changers in the temple. You do not need to pay for spirituality, you have it in your heart already, its just a matter of rediscovering it. What do we know of the man, well the Bible calls him a Nazarene, thats a designation for a sect like the Essene and Gnostic, Jesus is also known as an Essene another sect. The Bible says he was a priest in the order of Melchizedek hence Jesus was an initiate into some sort of order, he would have had equals in that order and perhaps superiors. The Buddhists have it he went and studied with them for a few years and took the knowledge back East with him, the English have it he visited Cornwall with his uncle and possibly met with Druids. Seems he got about, we know he was conversing with priests in the temple as a child, surely his thirst for spiritual knowledge must have continued into his adult years right through until his re-appearence. He must have been travelling when we lose sight of him in the Bible, otherwise they would have known where he was. Was his message an amalgamation of all the spiritual knowledge he had learnt from travelling and learning from sects and orders, seems possible. I think his real name might be 'Esa' or 'Isa' Hell appears to be a Roman Christian myth, it seems where reference to hell is used in the Christian Bible it is a mistranslation or misunderstanding. When Jesus said - 'and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it' apparently it actually states in the original text 'the gates of DEATH will not prevail against it' in other words when you come to the gates of your grave or your death, death will not prevail, you will live on. Similarly there was an area outside the walls of Jerusalem which was their rubbish tip, in order to keep it clean they set alight to it and burned the rubbish, if you was a criminal and sentenced to death and if nobody came forward to pay for your funeral, then your body was dumped outside the walls in this rubbish tip to burn - well nobody would come for your bones so you would be left there to burn for eternity - this has also been confused with hell. It seems all the Christian Bible references to it are mistranslations or misinterpretations or worse. What of Satan? Well what if Satan was just a psyche force, something with some intelligence that influences our nature. I think of him like this, if one night everyone in a city has a nightmare giving them a bad nights sleep, their day to day dealings the next day will be fraught. They'll be tired and irritable and anything could set them off in an argument, road rage would increase and the harmony in that city would be disturbed and the day to day dealings between the people would be affected negatively. Maybe thats all Satan is, part of our group conscious that has intelligence and the ability to influence our minds. If you focus on it, pray to it and invoke magical practices in its name then you get magical results by remotely influencing a persons psyche to your will, thats magic. It works similar to advertising and other spellcasters like the Bible, you read it, it gets inside your head and you change your behavior because of it, this is influencing another at will, this is magic. Ire_Mane said on another thread if you convince someone they are cursed, they will curse themselves and this is true. Its still magic, it worked and the curser influenced the experience of another. This is why Satan can be in any one of us and I don't doubt negative feelings attract its influence and by combining forces Satanists can present a formidable force. These are just thoughts I'm sharing some of my thoughts on Satan. Killing Raven Sum mentioned on another thread a thought I to have had, these spirits we deal with may just be part of Mother Natures spiritual realm localized to this Earth, Satan, Elementals and other such spirits may just be emanations from Mother Earth projected into the Earths consciousness that interact with our sub conscious designed to scare us into staying with her, like an overprotective mother keeping us bound to Earth and not reaching our full potential among the stars. God can be sensed by us, its to complicated to understand but God can speak to us. Sometimes I've felt like the universe is working just for me almost like its speaking to me. Meditation is the way to feel God and prayer is a form of meditation but not as good as stilling your mind. I had a weird experience once, in my early teens I had books on Yoga and meditation, one time I was meditating and a loud booming male voice spoke to me - 'Do you want to see your darkest fears' it scared the hell out of me - 'No' I said (Fuck Off in my mind) and I pulled myself out of meditation and sat about totally freaked out. This is the problem with spiritual work or occult dealings - you don't know what your going to get. Jesus didn't instruct us in how to commune with God hence I don't think its necessary. Jesus didn't establish a temple where his followers could meet every Sunday, he met them outside like the sermon on the mount. 'The Kingdom of Heaven is within you, not in your churches or mansions.' It is wherever you are right now, it is all around us and it can be heaven on earth if we only try. We are all the Son's and Daughter's of God and we all have a spark of the divine within us. Feeding wild animals like the Buddhists is a great form of charity. Animals are in a daily struggle for survival taking food out and feeding them briefly alleviates that struggle for them, it is an act of compassion toward the universe and Gods creations. So get out there, feed the ducks, enjoy the world. Life is for living, don't overcomplicate it, your here to see, feel, love, experience. As I understand it, you only come through this way once, so try and make the most of it and above all - 'treat everyone as you wish yourself to be treated' to me, this was Jesus' way. There is no second coming, Jesus is not coming back, he's to far advanced in his fathers mansions. He did his bit, now its up to us and its simple, treat everyone as you wish to be treated, listen to your heart and the rest will take care of itself, you will not end at death and will go on to one of the many heavens there are after this world. But remember, all the sages throughout the ages and Jesus have told us, the better you do in this world, in terms of personal spiritual development, cultivating an appreciation for life and being good natured, kind and charitable, the better it will be for your soul in the next. You don't need a church to tell you what I have just written and if you read it and believe it you are 'Illuminated' which is all the ancient mystery religions tried to induce in their initiated - you have a soul, you are immortal and you will go on after this world. If you believe that, you are on the road to illumination, and if you achieve Christ consciousness you are a God on Earth, but even in our human state we are all part animal part divine and can play our part in building the kingdom of heaven. I'm currently buying copies of 'The Anchor Bible Series' its a modern translation of the original texts, they are available second hand now as they're expensive new, it dispenses with the prosaic nonsense and is to my understanding just a literal and faithful translation of the original texts. I've previously read the KJV but was mindful that it was not faithful to the original text although it purportedly tried to be so. I've got Genesis and 'The Gospel of John' is winging its way to me. I chose John because its my understanding he was the closest to the actual Jesus. Its accepted that none of the Gospels was written as eye witness accounts but the Gospel of John was written by someone who knew an eye witness to the events. Hence its considered the closest to the actual timeframe of events. John also wrote Revelations and I will be getting a copy but I take Revelations with a pinch of salt, its a Kabbalistic text, Kabbalists are magicians and I therefore find it suspect. Besides Revelations is a description of a vision, an hallucination, who knows if it really is an account of the end times or something else. And lastly, is God really a 'He' its the female of the species that gives birth and God gave us life hence it seems logical that He is a She. Or as the Kabbalists have it - both. God created Man and Woman in his image, therefore is God not the mirror image of Male and Female? I think of God more of as an 'it' probably encompassing both male and female characteristics if it can be said. God is beyond our understanding. I've said it before, for me God is the soul of the universe. Something to ponder. But we are all part of Gods plan, that plan has been worked out to the minutest detail and it is unfolding exactly as it should. Edited March 7, 2021 by pi3141 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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