Diesel Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 Why are so many threads pinned. It ruins the category and means new threads are unseen. In General there are so many threads pinned you can't find new topics. Its killing the forum please unpin threads apart from essential rules and let the people decide popularity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screamingeagle Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 because those threads would be buried by trolls with constant opening of new threads..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz93666 Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 1 hour ago, screamingeagle said: because those threads would be buried by trolls with constant opening of new threads..... By "those threads" you mean the ones pinned .... So who is it decides what is deserving of pinning? And how do we know their judgment is sound? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitochondrial Eve Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 I would like to add my preference here. It is only my opinion of course and other members may feel differently, but I largely agree with @Diesel. Some sections have large numbers of threads pinned - especially General Chat and Covid / NWO. This entails having to look quite far down the page to find other unread material below inactive pinned threads. This can make it easier to miss unread material. In the General Chat section, there are two threads pinned - one for Dr Vernon Coleman and one for Max Igan - that perhaps belong in Recommended Viewing / Reading? But should they be pinned at all? And, in the Covid section, I think we should have only one thread pinned for each key part of the Covid narrative - e.g. the Megathread, Great Reset, vaccines, Covid tests, masks, conflicts of interests and perhaps isolation of the virus (although the latter is rightfully, in my view, pinned in the Research section). If there is an issue with constant opening of new threads, would it not be better to lock the new thread and merge it with an appropriate existing one and explain to the OP why this has been done? Repeat offenders who fail to respond to requests not to keep opening threads inappropriately, could be placed on moderation of content until they get the idea to search for an appropriate thread for their content rather than creating new ones all the time? The forum rules ask that members check for existing threads first before starting a new one so, if individuals are not doing this, mods should be within their rights to start issuing sanctions and merge threads where appropriate. I do think pinning certainly has its place to keep some important topics in view but I feel it is being overused in some busier sections of the forum. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screamingeagle Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 1 hour ago, oz93666 said: By "those threads" you mean the ones pinned .... So who is it decides what is deserving of pinning? And how do we know their judgment is sound? same as how do i know if your judgment is sound....trust is two way street Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screamingeagle Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Mitochondrial Eve said: I do think pinning certainly has its place to keep some important topics in view but I feel it is being overused in some busier sections of the forum ok we will come up with something ME 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Mitochondrial Eve said: If there is an issue with constant opening of new threads, would it not be better to lock the new thread and merge it with an appropriate existing one and explain to the OP why this has been done? Repeat offenders who fail to respond to requests not to keep opening threads inappropriately, could be placed on moderation of content until they get the idea to search for an appropriate thread for their content rather than creating new ones all the time? The forum rules ask that members check for existing threads first before starting a new one so, if individuals are not doing this, mods should be within their rights to start issuing sanctions and merge threads where appropriate. There is a huge issue that many members will not be aware of. Doing what you propose will increase the Mods workload 10 fold. Members do not follow the guidlines and give us extra work constantly. . What is the problem with scrolling down ? BC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitochondrial Eve Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, Basket Case said: There is a huge issue that many members will not be aware of. Doing what you propose will increase the Mods workload 10 fold. Members do not follow the guidlines and give us extra work constantly. . What is the problem with scrolling down ? BC I guess it can cause the same issue that people starting new threads constantly causes. Interesting threads can be lost from view with pinned threads which are inactive, or potentially less organically popular, still within view. For example, the vaccine consultation thread remained pinned in the Covid section long after the deadline for the consultation had ended making the thread redundant - this has now been unpinned thankfully but it didn't need to stay up all that time and, whilst that thread remained up and within view, other threads would have been relegated to the second page and potentially missed by many. This could create a vicious cycle of a thread dropping out of view and getting forgotten about and dropping further and further back. Then somebody starts a new thread (without completing proper checks) on the same topic because they haven't seen the original thread and then we end up with multiple threads on the same thing. I personally try to read all my unread content but I doubt this is the same for all members who may just stick with the threads nearer the top of each section given to time constraints etc. I also think that pinning threads can give the impression that the content within that thread is particularly important and is akin to promoting it. I think this really should be reserved for the most important topics - overusing it cheapens the facility in my view. With regards to pulling up members for constantly starting new threads without checking, I don't want to create a huge workload for mods who do a great job, but I think this is something that needs to be done and would be best confronted early on which could potentially nip it in the bud and hopefully avert further work in the long run. As I said, this is just my personal preference and I don't expect everyone to agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 23 hours ago, Mitochondrial Eve said: For example, the vaccine consultation thread remained pinned in the Covid section long after the deadline If this sort of thing is noticed by any member then please report it and point it out. I miss things like this and need a nudge sometimes. 23 hours ago, Mitochondrial Eve said: With regards to pulling up members for constantly starting new threads without checking, I don't want to create a huge workload for mods who do a great job, but I think this is something that needs to be done and would be best confronted early on which could potentially nip it in the bud and hopefully avert further work in the long run. This is a constant and very time consuming, on going situation. New threads when the subject is already 'up and running' and threads in wrong sections.. It never stops :0) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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