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I will never get the vaccine but I am confused about this virus , this is actually killing people I am constantly hearing about people’s family members dying so how can it be a scamdemic? 
I was the first to say that it was till I actually got sick . Now I am experiencing it first hand can someone please clarify this for me it’s so confusing 

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3 minutes ago, TammyBeli said:

I will never get the vaccine but I am confused about this virus , this is actually killing people I am constantly hearing about people’s family members dying so how can it be a scamdemic? 
I was the first to say that it was till I actually got sick . Now I am experiencing it first hand can someone please clarify this for me it’s so confusing 

 

There are thousands, and thousands of things that can make human beings sick. Not to mention the 'symptoms' for this supposed SARS-Cov-Shite 'virus' are so broad they cover virtually any symptom you can think of.

 

And if they gave you a PCR test [ https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/tag/pcr/ ] then you're more likely to find an accurate diagnoses from farting into a whirlwind and asking your mate in the next town to whiff the air.

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I wouldn’t have even gotten tested for it in the first place if it wasn’t for surgeries I am going thru that require me to be tested every time I go, but this time around it came back that I have it and I am required to quarantine for 10 days and living in NYC which is embarrassing enough to even say ! Lol ,sometimes we don5 have choices when there are other health issues involved ! It’s a powerless feeling , but I appreciate your input and thank u for responding! I’m just trying to educate myself as much as possible 

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The Rockefeller Medicine Racket. Sorcery and snake-oil. Repeat customers. Degradation of human potential. Elimination of "competition".

There's the primary reason for the "health problems", from the 20th century and today.

The world is run by counterfeiters, dope-peddlers,, con-artists, and mass-murderers. "Wolves in sheeps clothing". Pharisiac false authorities.

 

"Rockefeller retired from day-to-day business operations of Standard Oil in the mid-1890s. Inspired in part by fellow Gilded Age tycoon Andrew Carnegie (1835-1919), who made a vast fortune in the steel industry then became a philanthropist and gave away the bulk of his money, Rockefeller donated more than half a billion dollars to various educational, religious and scientific causes through the Rockefeller Foundation. Among his activities, he funded the establishment of the University of Chicago and the Rockefeller Institute for Medical Research (now Rockefeller University)."

https://www.history.com/topics/early-20th-century-us/john-d-rockefeller

 

Now go dig the dirt on him and his "bretheren".

 

Good thing it's just a silly-ass dream we can and will wake up from.

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Lets be honest ... nobody knows for sure if covid is a real virus ,but I expect it is ....

 

Conspiracy theorists are pre disposed to not believe anything the government says , and the extreme form of this is not to believe there is a corona virus ... some don't even believe any viruses exist or are contagious ...

 

The truth will come out as time moves on .

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3 hours ago, TammyBeli said:

I will never get the vaccine but I am confused about this virus , this is actually killing people I am constantly hearing about people’s family members dying so how can it be a scamdemic? 
I was the first to say that it was till I actually got sick . Now I am experiencing it first hand can someone please clarify this for me it’s so confusing 

 

1) Whilst growing old and being more susceptible to illness go hand in hand the statistics of "what people die of" are well worth a look.

 

2)Very few have died solely from the virus.

 

3)More will die from the vaccines than will die solely from the virus.

 

 

Whilst there is a lot of commensurate hoaxing and parallel agendas in operation the basic covid-19 plot is a hijack of the natural cycle of birth, life, death and of seasonal viruses.*  In the same way that the climate change hoax is a hijack of natural climate variability.

 

 

 

*As accepted by the mainstream

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It's no 'China' but US Virus Corona crap, and yes t's a scam.

 

I don't know the percentage but most natural deaths in 'healthy' people occur by respiratory/pulmonary deficiency, perhaps because the nature cared to make natural death the least painful as possible. 

 

 

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Every year, in the autumn, leaves fall from the trees. This isn't a disease or a virus, it's a cyclic event, like the revolution of the earth, the tides and other cyclic phenomena.

 

Every year, come autumn, people get influenza. The strong survive, the old and weak and the grossly unhealthy die. It isn't a virus, it's a cyclic event, Nature's way of weeding out the terminally ill to make room for the new growth in spring. 

 

The oak trees shed their acorns every autumn, and in spring they try to grow, Some take root, some die. It isn't a virus that kills them, it's survival of the fittest.

 

If we go back a few thousand years, when children were born they either lived or died. Of course their parents tried to keep  them alive, but death wasn't forbidden like it is today. Today and since the 1800's we have tried to ensure that not only the fit survive, but the weak as well, and over the years it's gotten so bad, that now the weak get more attention than the strong.

 

So every Autumn / Winter along comes the influenza. Granny has dementia, she's in a nursing home, she doesn't know who she is, what she is or where she is, but her family try their best to keep her alive. She isn't allowed to die although she would WANT to die if she knew what she was doing. Lying as a vegetable isn't anyone's idea of 'life', but family won't allow them the dignity of death. Influenza is Nature's way (or God's way if you are religious) of putting the infirm out of their misery and trying to fight nature is like trying to stop an express train by standing in the middle of the railway line.

 

For many years, along came measles, mumps, whooping cough, diphtheria  and other diseases. Most kids survived, the weakest dies. Nature ensuring the survival of the species by culling the weak so that they won't reproduce. People DEMANDED that the weak must be cherished and vaccination began. The weak multiplied and the bad genes that they carried were multiplied with them.

 

At first the idea of vaccination was well meaning, it reduced the numbers who got infected, but it also did a lot of harm. The pharmaceutical companies were getting rich on vaccination, but they were getting sued for all the damage they were causing, so they got an idea and they persuaded Ronald Reagan to indemnify all the vaccine companies against any claim made by anyone who was hurt, maimed or killed by their vaccines.

 

After that, they didn't need to worry about the safety of their product. They persuaded governments to make vaccination mandatory, so they didn't need to waste money on advertising. Suddenly, we started to get autism, peanut and other allergies, asthma, diabetes, more cancers AIDS, and a huge list of 'illnesses' that were almost unheard of until that fateful day that Reagan put his signature on that document,

 

Today, for big pharma it's a HUGE plus, if there are even more adverse effects from their poison vaccines, because now the sufferers from the effects of their vaccine spend billions on pills and medication for the rest of their lives.

 

There was a woman not far away who was ranting about the fact that the Government had allows her poor grandfather to die because he was in a nursing home and he died (of covid-19, obviously). He was only 87 and he had dementia and was paralyzed on one side from a stroke. I bet he was GLAD to die, but this silly woman wanted to sue the nursing home "because they should have prevented it".

 

A very good friend of mine had to have his mother put into a nursing home because she was grossly obese, diabetic and her husband and son just couldn't keep her at home because she could do nothing for herself. Six months after she had a stroke. Her son and husband went to visit her. She was dying. She pleaded with them to let her die, but they refused and they kept resuscitating her until she was almost a vegetable. She died (of covid-19 of course) and they complained bitterly that they hadn't resuscitated her yet again.

 

So it's OUR fault (well not mine or my families) that we have got to this state. EVERYONE dies, let the frail, weak, sick people die in dignity and stop demanding that they must NEVER be allowed to die.

 

Influenza isn't a virus, it's a cyclic event, like leaves falling from the trees. It's Nature's way of putting the sick and dying out of their suffering to make room for new generations of the species. If you have ANY respect for the sick and terminally ill members of your family, please allow them to die with dignity and not on a life support machine because YOU are afraid of death.

 

 

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Tammy, I had it too last year. I've had many "bugs" before, and a few types of flu in 68 years, (the bad ones in late 50s and in the 60s and some nasty unnamed ones in later years.) but as soon as it hit I knew it wasn't like any flu I'd had -ever. There was something very very weird about it.

Anyway I got over it, on my own, by the fire, using simple traditional herbal remedies and  breathing eucalyptus in steam, getting plenty of sleep. And it went on its way though gave me wobbly legs for 2-3 weeks, and I lost so much weight rapidly, I looked scary to behold.
(The weight came back to normal after a couple of weeks though)

 

Believe in "convalescence" with this, because you will need to convalesce. I would say for a good three weeks.
Rest, don't push yourself and do only what you have to do. If you don't need to work -don't.
The bed and the sofa are going to be your best friends. But when your fever's down and stays down, if you have a garden etc, try to get some fresh air and gently move about.

 

I believe the virus is real having experienced it. I believe it is a deliberately engineered virus that has nothing to do with that wet market in Wuhan, wildlife, bats or whatever the cover story is.
And I feel this virus was unleashed in order for people to be willingly (indeed, pushed to the point where they would PRAY for) ....ta da!!....the VACCINE!!

And this taking place from Antarctica to Greenland. The whole world.

 

I believe a tremendous level of fear like the whole world hasn't known before has been ramped up quite deliberately, the darkest lies have been and still are being told .

So yeah, I believe it's a real illness, and it is way weirder than seasonal flu. Though I accept that some will disagree with that. It's OK I don't mind.

However....it didn't last as long as flu with me. I have been more ill with other things. I can imagine some wouldn't fare well with it, if they had underlying serious problems, but many people would be able to fight it if their immune systems are working well.
Yes it's nasty. But I hope you and your family are feeling better soon. Take care and REST.

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Half the phytoplankton and ground vegetation got erased or killed within about 70 years, so what would one dare to pretend it DIDN'T ? 

 

I think what must be added to seasonal flu as an aggravating factor is lack of oxygen, because it takes a relatively slight drop in level for living beings to start suffering from related symptoms, again check these 'unexplained' cases of mass fish deaths and think that the same as what happens in waters must forcibly be observed on earth too... they're two different but closely connected worlds depending on one another... 

 

as about the OP I'm sorry but looking at the posting 'history' I believe it was just pro-COVID propaganda...

 

 

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I too caught a bad cold last summer with fever like I hadn’t had for decades. But I’s spending that summer in an old windy and cold mountain house I rented, so I did everything to get sick by repeatedly driving down to civilization 500m below for shopping or touring in heat waves and getting back sleeping in that ’grave’… But despite my natural skepticism I couldn’t help having the thought of a ‘pandemic infection’ briefly popping-up in my mind during the few days that cold lasted… You’re no longer allowed to have a mere cold or a simple cell phone today : you must now have ‘the COVID’ and a ‘smart phone’…

 

I think what also acts on breathing is mood, like with ‘depression’ in which I think it’s the main factor involved because we don’t grow ‘malwares’ within to release chemicals acting on our brain functions against our will, it’s pure fantasy and if anything is a metabolic effect made into a ‘cause’ in the great tradition of modern Medicine… Give 1 million to every person suffering from ‘depression’ and check if they don’t all recover within minutes… If Medicine’s looking for the ‘panacea’ then here it is…

 

Depression is when not ‘your body’ but yourself, your CONSCIOUSNESS turns against you because guilt, remorse or an accumulation of them led you to adopt a self-destructive behavior in which you deprive yourself from oxygen, you somehow ‘forget’ breathing and start poisoning yourself with your own carbon dioxide by recycling it instead of properly exhausting it. Those having experienced deep ‘depression’ know that it may go up to causing fainting, and I think it’s by mere hypoxia. A fair part of yoga’s teaching is based on breathing techniques so it’s not stupid to pretend that most people don’t know how to breathe correctly, just doing it because they heard it’s ‘trendy’…

 

To get back on topic the media terror that’s been run for one year had a deep effect on people’s psychological state and mental health, and the collective panic that had been widely used as an ‘excuse’ for actual extra deaths during the 2003 heat wave was briefly alluded to over COVID-19 some weeks ago by a handful specialists you’ll no longer hear talking about…

 

So take our atmosphere’s oxygen level that has dropped in a proportion that will stay ‘undefined’, add to it the physical and psychological damages caused by lockdowns and the relentless media terror over a fake pandemic for one year and I doubt there’s much room left for a significantly unusual form of seasonal flu to explain a possible excess of deaths during the last winter… it’s flu but with aggravating factors and circumstances…

 

 

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On 3/7/2021 at 9:26 PM, chud said:

 

I too caught a bad cold last summer with fever like I hadn’t had for decades. But I’s spending that summer in an old windy and cold mountain house I rented, so I did everything to get sick by repeatedly driving down to civilization 500m below for shopping or touring in heat waves and getting back sleeping in that ’grave’… But despite my natural skepticism I couldn’t help having the thought of a ‘pandemic infection’ briefly popping-up in my mind during the few days that cold lasted… You’re no longer allowed to have a mere cold or a simple cell phone today : you must now have ‘the COVID’ and a ‘smart phone’…

 

I think what also acts on breathing is mood, like with ‘depression’ in which I think it’s the main factor involved because we don’t grow ‘malwares’ within to release chemicals acting on our brain functions against our will, it’s pure fantasy and if anything is a metabolic effect made into a ‘cause’ in the great tradition of modern Medicine… Give 1 million to every person suffering from ‘depression’ and check if they don’t all recover within minutes… If Medicine’s looking for the ‘panacea’ then here it is…

 

Depression is when not ‘your body’ but yourself, your CONSCIOUSNESS turns against you because guilt, remorse or an accumulation of them led you to adopt a self-destructive behavior in which you deprive yourself from oxygen, you somehow ‘forget’ breathing and start poisoning yourself with your own carbon dioxide by recycling it instead of properly exhausting it. Those having experienced deep ‘depression’ know that it may go up to causing fainting, and I think it’s by mere hypoxia. A fair part of yoga’s teaching is based on breathing techniques so it’s not stupid to pretend that most people don’t know how to breathe correctly, just doing it because they heard it’s ‘trendy’…

 

To get back on topic the media terror that’s been run for one year had a deep effect on people’s psychological state and mental health, and the collective panic that had been widely used as an ‘excuse’ for actual extra deaths during the 2003 heat wave was briefly alluded to over COVID-19 some weeks ago by a handful specialists you’ll no longer hear talking about…

 

So take our atmosphere’s oxygen level that has dropped in a proportion that will stay ‘undefined’, add to it the physical and psychological damages caused by lockdowns and the relentless media terror over a fake pandemic for one year and I doubt there’s much room left for a significantly unusual form of seasonal flu to explain a possible excess of deaths during the last winter… it’s flu but with aggravating factors and circumstances…

 

 

Think back as to WHY you had the cold last summer? Desmond Morris and others came up with a hypothesis as follows.

 

A person has a good life. Good job, nice loving family and lots of friends. They are fit and healthy. Then, out of the blue, something happens. Fight with the wife, children getting into trouble. Problems at work, or just plain being overworked. The subconscious mind, needs the body to take a break. How long that break will be depends on the size of the problem. A head cold, with a couple of days off work, a more serious problem requiring a longer time to rest and be mollycoddled, to the final insoluable problem, where the illness is permanent, resulting in an early death.

 

For many years, whenever I got a cold, or 'flu, I sifted through what had happened in my life prior to getting sick and in almost every case, there had been some kind of minor problem, shortly before getting sick. I also think that a lot of factors in recovery is the mind. If you believe you are going to die, you probably will, but if you shrug off the problem, you get well a lot quicker.

 

I also believe that if you don't exercise your body, it will fall into ruin early, and if you don't exercise your brain, you'll end up with dementia. Having said that, I believe a LOT of illnesses today are caused by vaccinations. I don't vaccinate my dogs any longer, vets are criminals the same as doctors. They don't give a flying fuck about you or your pet. You and your pet are cash cows for them. If they could force you to vaccinate your dog weekly, they would!

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On 3/4/2021 at 3:33 AM, TammyBeli said:

I wouldn’t have even gotten tested for it in the first place if it wasn’t for surgeries I am going thru that require me to be tested every time I go, but this time around it came back that I have it

 

but does the PCR test actually confirm the presence of an infectious new virus?

 

The answer to that is no. It finds snippets of genetic material which the government are claiming come from a new virus

 

The more cycles of amplification you run the PCR test at the more false positives are produced.

 

So that test is not telling you categorically that you were infected with a brand new coronavirus. people have even done the PVR test on fruit and got a positive test result

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Just now, Mikheil said:

Think back as to WHY you had the cold last summer? Desmond Morris and others came up with a hypothesis as follows.

 

 

not to sound rude or pretentious but at my age and with the few knowledge I'm sure about because I got it by my own, I no longer need or welcome advice from self-claimed 'entitled' people... as about why I got the cold it's what I told in my post and nothing more... there's still a difference between what may affect you morally or physically, and when you feel miserable it's not a cold but a 'depression' that you get... 

 

 

When you see how naïve, weak-minded or conformist most people are you understand how what’s been done since last year may have induced a true collective psychosis deep enough to cause anguish or panic seizures, and how it could even end-up getting life threatening to the most vulnerable… yes I caught myself briefly thinking of 'the COVID' when getting so sick it hadn't happened to me since so long but it was just because of the CONTEXT, so we must not underestimate the power of our mind and we had it manipulated and tortured by our media for MONTHS… it’s plain terror, it’s media terrorism…

 

 

And we all know it’s a fraud, these masks in no case protect from ‘microbes’ and we don’t spit at each other’s face when talking together, COVID-19 is a hidden WAR for world domination by the USA…

 

 

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5 minutes ago, perpetual said:

Welcome to the forum OP.

 

Corona is a common cold and they spinned it as something so deadly that hospitals were empty and nurses were posting dancing video on tiktok...it is that deadly.

 

You got a positive result? It's all fake.

May be starting point is to find out what the PCR test is. Then you can come to your own conclusion whether your test result was accurate.

Just to give you a head start, the PCR test inventor said the test should not be used for infectious disease.

 

Zero flu cases? Zero flu deaths? If this doesn't make even the most casual observer suspicious, I don't know what will.

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3 hours ago, Mikheil said:

I believe a LOT of illnesses today are caused by vaccinations. I don't vaccinate my dogs any longer, vets are criminals the same as doctors. They don't give a flying fuck about you or your pet. You and your pet are cash cows for them. If they could force you to vaccinate your dog weekly, they would!

My dog was naturally immune for Parvo, because she survived it just before I rescued her (2001)
The clinic where she had received medical care obviously had her records. It was to that same clinic I took her for her yearly health check and *vaccinations*!!!

 

I was pretty ignorant then. I believed the vets knew what they were doing, but I always had this sneaking concern about "should she be vaccinated for Parvo when she had lifelong immunity?" But they kept shooting her up with it every year.

 

The vet assured me it was fine and she was being protected in the best possible way.


Then one day (I think 2006?) she had a severe systemic reaction immediately following the combo. vaccination. She was so sick for three days and went off her legs, couldn't eat, I was syringing teaspoonfuls of water in her mouth every hour etc.
The vet absolutely denied it couldd have had anything to do with the vaccine. But I suddenly woke up, did a lot of research, and refused any more vaccines -ever.

I had her "titers" taken yearly instead. And guess what? She was immune to Distemper too, and another thing in that combo. And still was five years later (I presume from previous vaccinations.)

Yes it cost me three times as much. I asked the vet why he didn't let people know about that option! He said no-one had ever asked for that


Yes, it was all about sheeples and baaaaaa!!!! We do what we're told by "authorities" and don't THINK. And if the vet says it's fine, it's fine.

I honestly think they don't care, just like you said.

She lived, super fit and well right up till her last 6 days, when she was aged 15. Jumping fences at nearly 15! Chasing frisbee. One good dog.

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On 3/4/2021 at 3:33 AM, TammyBeli said:

I wouldn’t have even gotten tested for it in the first place if it wasn’t for surgeries I am going thru that require me to be tested every time I go, but this time around it came back that I have it and I am required to quarantine for 10 days and living in NYC which is embarrassing enough to even say ! Lol ,sometimes we don5 have choices when there are other health issues involved ! It’s a powerless feeling , but I appreciate your input and thank u for responding! I’m just trying to educate myself as much as possible 

Were you sick before you had the test or did you become sick afterwards?

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People seem to forget the many illnesses that have the same or similar symptoms as the alleged C19.  For example: Acute Bronchitis ( feels like you are dying/ I had it its terrible if a bad dose) cant breathe, no air, *cough etc.  Pleurisy: Very painful, breathlessness, *cough etc - can be fatal. Pneumonia: Can range from mild to being fatal:  chest pain, breathless, sometimes a *cough, etc Can be fatal.  There are many more... same symptoms...

 

Now one that people may not realize. My cousin was eating Sunday dinner with me and family when I was in UK in 2018. She still had an appetite but felt under the weather. Said she had a bit of a sniffle and some fatigue, very slight dry *cough, headaches came and went. Two day later she was going to just ask the doctor to check her symptoms and see if she had an infection. Before she exited her house she fell to the floor breathless. She was taken to hospital. Within hours she was in an induced coma as her body was weak and she couldn't breathe. They gave her antibiotics and the ventilation required with the induced coma.  Three days later her feet turned black and ten days later she was dead, never having regained consciousness. This was 2018....it wasn't covid ....it was SEPSIS.

People claiming to have covid need to research the other illnesses and realise there are many potentially fatal respiratory illnesses that have a*cough. There is a reason they put a cough as a symptom of covid in my opinion... it fits with most respiratory ailments, right down to lung cancer. Years ago I worked on a heart and lung ward in the UK. I understand lung diseases. C19 never been isolated and symptoms mimic ( deliberately imo) almost all respiratory illnesses.

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7 hours ago, CrowintheSnow said:

My dog was naturally immune for Parvo, because she survived it just before I rescued her (2001)
The clinic where she had received medical care obviously had her records. It was to that same clinic I took her for her yearly health check and *vaccinations*!!!

 

I was pretty ignorant then. I believed the vets knew what they were doing, but I always had this sneaking concern about "should she be vaccinated for Parvo when she had lifelong immunity?" But they kept shooting her up with it every year.

 

The vet assured me it was fine and she was being protected in the best possible way.


Then one day (I think 2006?) she had a severe systemic reaction immediately following the combo. vaccination. She was so sick for three days and went off her legs, couldn't eat, I was syringing teaspoonfuls of water in her mouth every hour etc.
The vet absolutely denied it couldd have had anything to do with the vaccine. But I suddenly woke up, did a lot of research, and refused any more vaccines -ever.

I had her "titers" taken yearly instead. And guess what? She was immune to Distemper too, and another thing in that combo. And still was five years later (I presume from previous vaccinations.)

Yes it cost me three times as much. I asked the vet why he didn't let people know about that option! He said no-one had ever asked for that


Yes, it was all about sheeples and baaaaaa!!!! We do what we're told by "authorities" and don't THINK. And if the vet says it's fine, it's fine.

I honestly think they don't care, just like you said.

She lived, super fit and well right up till her last 6 days, when she was aged 15. Jumping fences at nearly 15! Chasing frisbee. One good dog.

We had to go abroad for two weeks on business. We had to have our 4 year old GSD bitch vaccinated with everything before they would take her into the boarding kennel. Before we went away, she was playful and full of life, when we got back, she was dull and poor appetite.

 

Two or three weeks after we got her back, she came on heat, developed metritis and died. I blame the vaccine and myself for being conned into letting the vet get away with murder. Vets have zero interest in animals, only MONEY. Your doctor(?) has the exact same ethics.

 

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15 hours ago, Beaujangles said:

People seem to forget the many illnesses that have the same or similar symptoms as the alleged C19.  For example: Acute Bronchitis ( feels like you are dying/ I had it its terrible if a bad dose) cant breathe, no air, *cough etc.  Pleurisy: Very painful, breathlessness, *cough etc - can be fatal. Pneumonia: Can range from mild to being fatal:  chest pain, breathless, sometimes a *cough, etc Can be fatal.  There are many more... same symptoms...

 

Now one that people may not realize. My cousin was eating Sunday dinner with me and family when I was in UK in 2018. She still had an appetite but felt under the weather. Said she had a bit of a sniffle and some fatigue, very slight dry *cough, headaches came and went. Two day later she was going to just ask the doctor to check her symptoms and see if she had an infection. Before she exited her house she fell to the floor breathless. She was taken to hospital. Within hours she was in an induced coma as her body was weak and she couldn't breathe. They gave her antibiotics and the ventilation required with the induced coma.  Three days later her feet turned black and ten days later she was dead, never having regained consciousness. This was 2018....it wasn't covid ....it was SEPSIS.

People claiming to have covid need to research the other illnesses and realise there are many potentially fatal respiratory illnesses that have a*cough. There is a reason they put a cough as a symptom of covid in my opinion... it fits with most respiratory ailments, right down to lung cancer. Years ago I worked on a heart and lung ward in the UK. I understand lung diseases. C19 never been isolated and symptoms mimic ( deliberately imo) almost all respiratory illnesses.

 

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