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1 hour ago, Basket Case said:

 

What if you are at peace with yourself ? 

Happy and content with what you have become during your life time but have no wish to participate in the madness no longer.. 

No wish to have your DNA possibly altered and possibly disconnected from the Spiritual Source ? 

Leave on your own terms without having to 'escape yourself' but escape from the Evil that is spreading..? 

BC 

 

Completely agree.

 

Not a biblical reference but I like what Alber Camus said--'There is only one really serious philosophical question, and that is suicide...' 

That is, of course, once you see the absurdity of life. But as BC says one has to leave in a state of peace. Or as Alan Watts said--'What if when we die we wake up...?' Also, what is death? This will need a separate thread.

 

In any case, parts of us are dying every moment and being reborn..as with all nature, in things we cannot see. Our fear of death is quite unique amidst the rest of nature, even though we are voluntarily killing ourselves and others through what we eat and do and think and practice (murderous thoughts and deeds do not always involve a knife or a gun)...it's just that it is slower process.

 

 

I also wonder if the cabal wants a depopulated earth, wouldn't more people dying be good for that agenda? Just wondering...why suicide has been illegal in most of the places..because they do not want us to have control over ourselves in any shape or form but die slowly and miserably in an old age home with people jabbing you with shots without permission ..

Because the fear of death is what scares us into doing all the things that kill us from the inside, many people are even taking the vaccine due to this fear.

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12 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

 

^^^ THIS ^^^

 

Really? I'm not afraid of death. I can't wait. I'm just killing time here to be honest....like waiting for a bus that's taking ages to arrive...

 

I've glimpsed the next world, in fact everyone has, they just don't know it.

 

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30 minutes ago, Annette westray said:

https://youtu.be/7EM3jeSvdBI
cut and paste the above link into tube 

this might answer your question 🙏🏽

 

Not sure if you are from India but this guy is a fraud. Your brain will  actually start aching if you listen to all his nonsense. He has built some kind of a 'masonic' looking structure/ temple and keeps asking everyone to come and work for him as a solution to their weariness with life (or volunteer for him as he calls it) ---This is self-idolatry.

 

He lives a very lavish lifestyle, as does his daughter and her husband...the wife is reported to have died in mysterious circumstances.

 

He has an army of 50c kind of online volunteers monitoring everything that's written about him and jump in very quickly to defend him.

 

Followers are brainwashed  wannabe 'educated' types in India and abroad who just want to be part of a spiritual group that is powerful enough to enhance their social standing and acceptability.  

 

He is on the misleading dark side of 'new age spirituality BS'. Eg. where he is saying that we are not in control of our birth, so how can we choose when we die? This is wrong if taken literally.

 

This is the satanic spiritual bs that hijacked the true ancient teachings of vedic scriptures.

 

We are very much masters of our own fate--we do not need to bow to any self-professed enlightened guru to ask permission for our salvation.

 

This is a 'prison planet' and if anyone is telling you differently they want you around to be of some benefit to them--to idolize them, to pay for their lifestyle, to become dependent upon them or to feed the demonic energy working through the cabal.

 

Most of what he says contradicts the very scriptures he quotes from --(even though he says he hasn't read any scriptures). 

 

Everything is inverted here on prison planet---what we are experiencing right now--is it life or death? As a Sufi saint once said--this is the land of the dead..

We need to wake up and go home and stop feeding these pseudo-spiritual energy traps that keep us in a state of submission in ways that not even prozac can. 

 

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I’m sad you feel this way about my suggestion of a possible answer to the question asked. I do not agree with your comments in my understanding they are totally and utterly wrong and misleading to others. People can make their own minds up after watching and do not need people like you giving your own opinion in a negative way let the people decide for themselves 🙏🏽

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28 minutes ago, Annette westray said:

I’m sad you feel this way about my suggestion of a possible answer to the question asked. I do not agree with your comments in my understanding they are totally and utterly wrong and misleading to others. People can make their own minds up after watching and do not need people like you giving your own opinion in a negative way let the people decide for themselves 🙏🏽

 

I was just warning anyone in a vulnerable state falling for these psedo gurus who trap the weakest among us, especially those emotionally vulnerable.

 

Most people here on DI forum are from the UK, not from India, and will be misled by the jazzy attire and vaguely spiritual sounding nonsense spouted by fake Indian gurus. They might think that anything being spoken by an Indian guru will be 'pearls of wisdom'. And I wanted to post a word of warning.

 

David Icke and others focus on the cabal frontmen in the western part of the world--through the Church, the global organisations, the billionares in the west, etc. Not much research or discussion can be found about  how the satanic forces work in India--making it the country with the most number of flashy gurus and the most deprived population in more ways than one...

Charity starts at home and if these gurus really wanted a spiritual transfromation of the world, they would have cleaned up their own backyard, rather than driving around the US. 

 

Since we are on the DI forum, I presume we are in consensus that there is a satanic cabal operating throughout the world---so what about India? What are the Indian counterparts of these satanic /freemasonic entities? Why is India not a paradise if so much wisdom is being spouted by these gurus day and night on YT channles?

 

 Obviously you are a disciple of this person and will not agree.

 

But you could have expanded on why you say I am 'totally and utterly wrong and misleading'. I can refute most of what this guy says if you care to have a more analytical discussion.

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4 hours ago, Basket Case said:

 

What if you are at peace with yourself ? 

Happy and content with what you have become during your life time but have no wish to participate in the madness no longer.. 

No wish to have your DNA possibly altered and possibly disconnected from the Spiritual Source ? 

Leave on your own terms without having to 'escape yourself' but escape from the Evil that is spreading..? 

BC 

 

signup with hamas. make a difference on your way out?

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The primary deception is that this world is "reality' and Divine Creation. From that follows deception after deception.

False premises lead to false conclusions.

 

The bible is CORRUPTED. Any dimwit that doesn't know that is being guided by untruth( I've been there). That being said, there is Divine Revelation and communication within it, but guess what? GOD is NOT limited to any one channel or instrument, IT IS WITHIN EVERYTHING IT CREATED, IT IS ALL AROUND EVERYTHING IT CREATED. There is no escaping GOD or Reality,,, except in fantasy, dreams, hallucinations, illusions, etc, etc, based on untruth(self-deception). Guess what? Illusions, hallucinations, etc, etc, have no effect or consequence whatsoever on The Truth or Reality(ONE). What they are is momentary interruption of awareness and comminication with GOD and Reality, a perceptual disconnection, momentary suspension of disbelief(of untruth) and accepting untruth as "true", and then what follows is that which conforms to untruth= UNREALITY. The unknown. There it is.

The opposite of The Truth and Reality is untruth and unreality= NOTHING and NOWHERE.

We're already in "Heaven", we can't be anywhere else... the unreal is hell...

There you have it.

Wake up where you REALLY ARE, AS YOU REALLY ARE. Sinless and guiltless=The Son Of God=ALL Of GOD'S Creation(Totality/Whole/Complete=Holy=TRUE).

The Truth Sets Us Free

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39 minutes ago, novymir said:

The primary deception is that this world is "reality' and Divine Creation. From that follows deception after deception.

False premises lead to false conclusions.

 

 

 

Bingo!

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Who are you Kali to warn people in a vulnerable state as you put it, your sounding like a guru with your preaching. do you expect people to listen to your views without question and research just believe what you say?. I had my own awakening 7 years ago and do my own research. I have no intention of sharing my personal views of spiritual understanding. people who are truly awake continue on their own journey learning as they go embracing how precious life as a human is for the short time we are here. If one can make a difference to another being  by kind words and empathy that’s all that’s needed try it!

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52 minutes ago, Annette westray said:

If one can make a difference to another being  by kind words and empathy that’s all that’s needed try it!

 

out of likes. beautiful

peace and joy and happiness

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56 minutes ago, Annette westray said:

I have no intention of sharing my personal views of spiritual understanding

 

That is a shame .... I thought that was the idea of this forum?

 

57 minutes ago, Annette westray said:

people who are truly awake continue on their own journey learning as they go embracing how precious life as a human is for the short time we are here.

 

My consideration, for many years, is that this realm is hell ....... so I do not agree that 'life' for a 'human' (HU being a god with horned head and hoofs who likes killing/eating children) in this 'place' is a good thing worthy of embracing!

 

Just my tuppence.

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1 hour ago, Annette westray said:

Who are you Kali to warn people in a vulnerable state as you put it, your sounding like a guru with your preaching. do you expect people to listen to your views without question and research just believe what you say?. I had my own awakening 7 years ago and do my own research. I have no intention of sharing my personal views of spiritual understanding. people who are truly awake continue on their own journey learning as they go embracing how precious life as a human is for the short time we are here. If one can make a difference to another being  by kind words and empathy that’s all that’s needed try it!

 

Why are you so upset if I shared my views? What I stated are well known facts. 

BTW we are all expressing personal views here...the video you lnked to would not have helped a person confused about life and death, it would have confused him more.

And if you had your awakening you would not have said the following--' people who are truly awake continue on their own journey learning as they go embracing how precious life as a human is for the short time we are here.' This is not the language of a person of an awakened person. This is what the new age gurus say to pacify scared humans and bring them into their fold. If you have been awakened you have seen death in its true form, you would not be using the terminology of human empathy and 'preciousness of human life'--and we are not here for a short time. A truly awakened person as you claim to be would not have said this nor promoted the videos of the guru you just did.

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I dont like that. If your discussing, be open, I hate people who are like 'thats my personal story, I dont need to explain myself...'. Ifyou disagree with someone you must be open and explain why...

 

Oh and if you're awakened, you wouldn't care euther way. You sound less awakened and more 'woke' to me 😅

 

Dying with God in mind, with his name on your lips. But heaven in Christianity is so simplistic. Look to India.

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13 minutes ago, Annette westray said:

Yes I’ve seen death and been to the other side which is why I have no fear just love for all no matter how tough life is including you.

 

Hey everyone, did you get that 'Including you', so close to fooling everyone with that 'seen past the veil of death' but you couldn't help yourself with a dig which shows resentment and insecurity, 'how tough life is', my life is not tough, thank you.

 

Not virtues of someone who's 'seen the other side'👻'.... 😂

 

Pretentious Enlightenment 💩

 

I told you Im a Macho man, better than, 'Oooo Yeah'.

 

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11 minutes ago, Annette westray said:

which is why I have no fear just love

 

No one is discussing either...
Are you willing to Love this place to the point where someone knocks on your door, holds you down and forces an injection of DEMONIC SHIT into you ?

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Hey Dolly Parton got the Vax and made a song. She changed the words from Jolene to Vaccine.

 

So clever Dolly.

 

Still I'd have an old age threesome with Dolly and Cher....

 

Why Grandma, what fine titties you have...

 

 

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