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Hey all, I dont mean to be dramatic...

I have a physics background, lets neglect that.

My first degree (incomplete) and the next one Applied Physics (was also incomplete, this stuff messed up my world, almost finished).

If you guys know the book more than me, can we still enter Heaven if it is suicide?

I class myself as a physicist, a very good one too.

12 years of study.

I'm not asking that, nor to be told anything else... I am asking can we still pass the doors if we do it to ourselves?

Biblical answers only please.

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For sure.. ln that case l guess l fear being here with that stuff in me.. l refuse to give up the right l have over my vessel, my body.... l would rather leave that vessel behind than continue

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Completely agree.   Not a biblical reference but I like what Alber Camus said--'There is only one really serious philosophical question, and that is suicide...'  That is, of course, onc

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That may have come across as being twatty...

Its not. 

My first degre was Astrophysics from DCU, my next one was a major one from UK...almost finished (until last year).

Just biblical answers if you can help me.

Factual...I cant trust Priests nor Reverends.

A quick low down will do, I have read The Bible and The Quran (next to my Feynmann hardbacks).

Can someone give me an answer? Everywhere else I ask they keep blocking me/banning me before I get a reply.

I am not fake, I am a physicist. 

My name is Andy.

Can someone answer me please?

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Sometimes things seem very bad, many dark thoughts .. but in the morning the Sun rises.

Life can be very difficult, sometimes painful, but try to relax be calm.

Everyone on Earth has some suffering in their life, everyone .... think how many people are crying right now around the world.

Yes life can be difficult.  It can also be good sometimes, sometimes beautiful.

If things are difficult it does not mean we should not do.

We all need love.

 

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I am so lonely right now.

And the bummer is, I studied The Universe for so long.

I am not a moron...

I worked so hard to fix this shit world. I was even part of weapons programs.

I know what it all is.

My question stands, can we go to Heaven? I would like to know.

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One of my best mates hung himself a few years ago.

Shortly after I saw him in a dream and he told me he was withdrawing from anti-depressants and that he regretted his actions because of the effect on his mother.

Not long after his brother (another of my best friends) went out on a drink and drugs binge full of sorrow for his bro and never woke up in the morning. His father found him dead in his bed.

So every action has a reaction which might not be apparent at the time.

 

So who can answer your question with any certainty with their interpretation of religious texts and without knowing much about you?

I'd say nobody can.

You may as well stick around and try to do something useful or at least study the subject a little more.

 

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It's no good committing suicide, you can't escape from yourself. You will only take this turmoil into the next world.

 

Much better to spend your time here working on yourself and managing whatever problems or anxieties you have.

 

From a Biblical perspective, people are expected to shoulder their burdens and accept their fate to some extent.... however Jesus came to remove some of these mental burdens from us and give us a fresh start and even in the Old Testament the idea of forgiveness of sins being absolute to those believe and repent 'though your sins were scarlet they shall be as white as snow'.

 

In the Bible people who commit suicide usually as a result of their bad deeds and guilt...... this is generally how suicide is perceived in the Bible....

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, LonelyAtom said:

Remember me too, I hope I am.

Kill them all.

Fuck it.

Cheerio!

I detect a bit of impatience. Give it a few hours to warm up. Im sure you going to get a good response.

What youre after takes more than 5 mins to solve

Suicide is a very complicated problem

Also wanting a credible answer to satisfy your need to know for sure, without any doubt, exactly what will happen in the future.......

I give up already

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Just one thing, you said you worked hard to fix this world, but yet was part of a weapons program. I'm sorry to say that is being part of the problem. On the suicide matter nothing is ever acheived by taking that route weather you get in to heaven or not you should rise above the shit that goes on in this world and take solice from knowing you are better than them.

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Also you mentioned I wish I could make people see what is, well I've been hounded by people claiming to be Freemasons but not sure if that is the case as way to many people seem to be involved to reported numbers of members especially when I took these folks on a tour round the country, have seemed to be bugged, evidence wiped and too many peculiar military people seem to fall my way so if you have any insight I would be keen to listen to what you think. That goes for anyone with any insight

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On 2/27/2021 at 6:49 AM, Itsa said:

One of my best mates hung himself a few years ago.

Shortly after I saw him in a dream and he told me he was withdrawing from anti-depressants and that he regretted his actions because of the effect on his mother.

Not long after his brother (another of my best friends) went out on a drink and drugs binge full of sorrow for his bro and never woke up in the morning. His father found him dead in his bed.

So every action has a reaction which might not be apparent at the time.

 

So who can answer your question with any certainty with their interpretation of religious texts and without knowing much about you?

I'd say nobody can.

You may as well stick around and try to do something useful or at least study the subject a little more.

 

 

My mate hanged himself in the late 90's. I still wish he was around now.

So many of my friends and people my age are already dead, suicide,drugs,booze, cancers.

There's been a huge toll on us.

 

 

to the OP stay another day it will either get better or worse & you never know which?

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Suicide is a mortal sin so Christianity says no. However if your a Muslim then killing yourself in a Jihad will guarantee that you enter heaven, or at least so says the Ayatollah ūüėČ

 

Be a shame to blow your ass up for Allah only to find a heavenly harem of these virgins awaiting you. Who said Allah doesn't have a sense of humour.

 

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On 2/27/2021 at 6:53 PM, LonelyAtom said:

Hey all, I dont mean to be dramatic...

I have a physics background, lets neglect that.

My first degree (incomplete) and the next one Applied Physics (was also incomplete, this stuff messed up my world, almost finished).

If you guys know the book more than me, can we still enter Heaven if it is suicide?

NO if you commit suicide it is murder. 

 

The only way to go home is to be rectified(reconciled, reborn) 

Exactly like a DC waveform.

 

Truth is a rectifying force. 

Energy is information 

Information is consciousness. 

 

The earth is misinformation. 

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On 2/27/2021 at 7:11 PM, LonelyAtom said:

That may have come across as being twatty...

Its not. 

My first degre was Astrophysics from DCU, my next one was a major one from UK...almost finished (until last year).

Just biblical answers if you can help me

It's all physics

 

It's all energy.

Energy transmutation and transformation. 

 

The earth is a frequency field. 

A large transformer. 

A crystalline structure. 

Function of crystals in energy is to transmute one form of energy into another. 

Your DNA is two windings. A transformer. 

 

A non converted human (on of a natural state is duplicitous. 

Basically creates their own AC sine wave. With a AC frequency wave you also have a magnetic field trapping you here. 

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On 2/27/2021 at 7:18 AM, Truthspoon said:

 

It's no good committing suicide, you can't escape from yourself. You will only take this turmoil into the next world.

 

What if you are at peace with yourself ? 

Happy and content with what you have become during your life time but have no wish to participate in the madness no longer.. 

No wish to have your DNA possibly altered and possibly disconnected from the Spiritual Source ? 

Leave on your own terms without having to 'escape yourself' but escape from the Evil that is spreading..? 

BC 

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1 hour ago, Basket Case said:

 

What if you are at peace with yourself ? 

Happy and content with what you have become during your life time but have no wish to participate in the madness no longer.. 

No wish to have your DNA possibly altered and possibly disconnected from the Spiritual Source ? 

Leave on your own terms without having to 'escape yourself' but escape from the Evil that is spreading..? 

BC 

 

That's a good question..... some say that's what the Cathars used to practice....

 

It doesn't seem right though. Your physical body is an extension of your mind and soul, albeit temporarily, to deliberately harm that is to harm your soul.....just as you wouldn't murder another person why would murdering yourself be acceptable?

 

If you had a perfectly healthy happy dog as a pet would you go to the vet to have it put down?


Of course not, it seems like a crime against nature..... I suppose that's how I feel about suicide then.....

 

Probably best avoided........ 

 

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16 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

If you had a perfectly healthy happy dog as a pet would you go to the vet to have it put down?

 

Not quite the same scenario is it.. 

 

17 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

 

It doesn't seem right though. Your physical body is an extension of your mind and soul, albeit temporarily, to deliberately harm that is to harm your soul.....just as you wouldn't murder another person why would murdering yourself be acceptable?

 

But I don't see it as harming your body... Simply deciding when to leave your temporary vehicle. 

You have to leave at some point anyway. 

Again I restate - if you are at peace with yourself where is the harm..?

People will miss you... But they'll miss you at some point anyway. 

Choosing when to move on is not a crime against God - or whatever name you want to give the Ultimate Universal Energy. 

 

The Anti-Creator and it's energies and minions are running amoke. 

When is the correct time to leave..? 

BC 

 

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