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26 minutes ago, rideforever said:

 

Yes that's true.

Religions/spirituality does not aim at Oneness in the way you have described.  What it means is to unifiy with the Source.

Everything that exists at our level was created by the Source and flowed out down a river and is now far from the Source.  Here there is cause and effect according to various laws that exist here.

However it is possible to create a deep connection with the Source that is permanent.  This means you extend yourself backwards to the Source.  You remain here, but inside you have a new feature which is your union with the Source.

This is the "Father".  Or "Universal Consciousness".  Or the Source.  Same thing.

 

In recent years due to the decline of human intelligence around the world, people have started to talk about Oneness Sameness.

Originally what this meant was that when you are in deep meditation/prayer you are fully withdrawn from human life and you feel the Source inside you.  It is very deep within.  So deep it is like being at the bottom of the ocean.   You no longer feel any of the noise of the human world.  You can say it is Emptiness.  Empty of human noise.  Or it is Oneness and Sameness.

Of course it is also Union With the Source which is a powerful experience.

Later when you get up from meditation you retain this still centre inside you as you enter the human world again.

 

As more and more stupid people imagine they are spiritual these days, they have bent these words until they mean nothing.

The sheep always do this.  They make cheap copies.  They are charlatans.

Pretty soon it is difficult to find a real teacher amongst the thousand losers fakes and twats who are spiritual gurus.

This is where the society is at these days.

 

But like I said the original goal was good and still is good if you can find a good teacher.

This world is like a war.  The world is full of shit and shit people and idiots.

You must fight to find the truth, just like the old days, things haven't changed.

 

I agree completely with you on this. I have nothing against the spiritual path and I meditate Daily as prescribed. It has transformed my life in thousands of ways and has given me true understanding. And there are many false teachers and false prophets. But, these people are not becoming one with the universal light of creation. I can assure you this much. 

 

There are always forces of evil in this battle of life. And I promise you they are the ones funding most of the problem creating organizations. I wish they were talking about what you and I are. But, I promise they are not. If they were so good and enlightened they wouldn't HATE Christianity. They just wouldn't care about it and do what they are doing. Their will is to destroy religions and govern truth. 

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6 hours ago, rideforever said:

 

Yes that's true.

Religions/spirituality does not aim at Oneness in the way you have described.  What it means is to unifiy with the Source.

Everything that exists at our level was created by the Source and flowed out down a river and is now far from the Source.  Here there is cause and effect according to various laws that exist here.

However it is possible to create a deep connection with the Source that is permanent.  This means you extend yourself backwards to the Source.  You remain here, but inside you have a new feature which is your union with the Source.

This is the "Father".  Or "Universal Consciousness".  Or the Source.  Same thing.

 

In recent years due to the decline of human intelligence around the world, people have started to talk about Oneness Sameness.

Originally what this meant was that when you are in deep meditation/prayer you are fully withdrawn from human life and you feel the Source inside you.  It is very deep within.  So deep it is like being at the bottom of the ocean.   You no longer feel any of the noise of the human world.  You can say it is Emptiness.  Empty of human noise.  Or it is Oneness and Sameness.

Of course it is also Union With the Source which is a powerful experience.

Later when you get up from meditation you retain this still centre inside you as you enter the human world again.

 

As more and more stupid people imagine they are spiritual these days, they have bent these words until they mean nothing.

The sheep always do this.  They make cheap copies.  They are charlatans.

Pretty soon it is difficult to find a real teacher amongst the thousand losers fakes and twats who are spiritual gurus.

This is where the society is at these days.

 

But like I said the original goal was good and still is good if you can find a good teacher.

This world is like a war.  The world is full of shit and shit people and idiots.

You must fight to find the truth, just like the old days, things haven't changed.

 

Give me a chance to prove to you that the Theosophical Society has the most evil agenda. I thought I would be dealing with conspiracy theorists but instead I am dealing with versions of my self from years ago. You learned how to change your beliefs systems and take control over your life. Well what if there is coincidence that you learned what you learned. It's manufactured. It is a movement funded and started by the groups themselves. That's why there is a whole new age spiritual movement. Although you and myself included has felt at times that they are the only ones that know the truth about reality and everyone else is wrong. That is not true.

 

"I have a relative who is in a mental hospital. He thinks he is Christ. Well, that's groovy. I am Christ also. But he doesn't think I am Christ. He thinks he is Christ. Because it happened to him and he took his ego with him. So he says: I'm special. And when I say to him: Sure man you're Christ. And I'm Christ too. He says: you don't understand. And when he's out he steals cars and things like that because he needs them because he's Christ and that's all right. So they lock him up. He says: I don't know ... me ... I'm a responsible member of society. I go to church. Me they put in a mental hospital. You're free. You've got a beard. You wear a dress ... you ...
Sure. Because 
as far as I'm concerned we are all God.
That's the difference.
If you really think another guy is God he doesn't lock you up…" - Ram Dass

 

The theosophical society is a bunch of psychopaths that are playing God to try and save us all. But one thing is certain, it doesn't work that way. It is well documented that the their main goal is a universal brotherhood, with no differentiation between race, religion, sect, or creed. This is sameness. They admit in videos of the theosophical society(visit their YouTube page) that this really means ending all human suffering. They say that this goal can't be reached until then. Here is a quote from The key To Theosophy.

 

"Q. Is the production of such healing adepts the aim of Theosophy?
A. Its aims are several; but the most important of all are those which are likely to lead to the relief of
human suffering under any or every form, moral as well as physical. And we believe the former to be far
more important than the latter. Theosophy has to inculcate ethics; it has to purify the soul, if it would
relieve the physical body, whose ailments, save cases of accidents, are all hereditary. It is not by studying
Occultism for selfish ends, for the gratification of one's personal ambition, pride, or vanity, that one can
ever reach the true goal: that of helping suffering mankind. Nor is it by studying one single branch of the
esoteric philosophy that a man becomes an Occultist, but by studying, if not mastering, them all.
Q. Is help, then, to reach this most important aim, given only to those who study the esoteric sciences?"

-Blavatsky.

 

A great noble man once said that life is suffering. But, it also can be liberation. Both of these things are fading as fast as they came. True liberation is found only in death. And so is the secret of the yogi's, "Living in death". So the only way to liberate anyone from suffering completely is death. 

 

the 7th root race - 

 

This root race will be the last race to appear on planet Earth. Theosophist Scott Ramsey predicts that any sexual difference among humans will cease to exist, and both conception and birth will become entirely spiritual.

He also writes humanity will have a great spiritual development, and he describes this development in the following words:

"Everything that is irredeemably sinful and wicked, cruel and destructive, will have been eliminated, and that which is found to survive will be swept away from being, owing, so to speak, to a Karmic tidal-wave in the shape of scavenger-plagues, geological convulsions and other means of destruction."

 

I rest my case. They want to bring about death. You have been decieved as I have. If you think about it and really think about it everything they promote and say goes directly against the 7 universal laws. One would say diety is law. Well I guess that makes them the anthesis. They are tricking everyone to adopt their religion. They are doing it through music, television, social media, and other programming techniques. They will have all adopt their religion and worship it. Principle of gender unchecked principle of polarity unchecked principle of unity in diversity uncheck principle of mentalism uncheck. If they destroy the negative polar opposite to every experience or the negative portion of a wavelength than you have lost your reference point. Voltage is the potential difference between two points. If the wavelength is only in the upper quadrant it is 0v. It is zero hertz. It needs inversion. If everyone's potential is the same than it is 0v. Nothing. Death. No energy. Watch new YouTube movies and shows. Filled to grill with the occult. Do you watch it and smile and feel like part of the club. And like you know something that everybody else doesn't. Like you in on the cool secret and got it all figured out. You have been dooooooopppped.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, DarianF said:

 

The most terrifying words to a Government official: "Sir, the mob is heading this way."

And that is truly the principle of polarity. We needed that. But that is my point in the post above it. That is the struggle of life. And you need it. But it can't be saved either way can it. And both party's are in the wrong. I'm not saying the world will be saved if we stop the occult. But it will just keep pushing on. Let's just not let them win because if they win their goal which they are doing very well at then it is our collective end. Then let's atleast challenge them back and enjoy the duality.

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Just now, Notimeleft said:

And that is truly the principle of polarity. We needed that. But that is my point in the post above it. That is the struggle of life. And you need it. But it can't be saved either way can it. And both party's are in the wrong. I'm not saying the world will be saved if we stop the occult. But it will just keep pushing on. Let's just not let them win because if they win their goal which they are doing very well at. Then let's atheist challenge the back and enjoy the duality.

 

Sounds like fun!

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13 minutes ago, DarianF said:

 

Sounds like fun!

They are teaching a thing with all this calming blissfulness mindfulness. It's called to accept. But accepting your end is just that. Your end. Humanities end. It is a virtue, but a virtue used against us.

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I don't really care if any groups are corrupt or not, or the people have crazy and insincere ideas.  I don't care because the more I look I know everyone is like that.

The only thing I care about is ... is there anything here at all that can help me?

Do these frauds and fools know anything useful?

Sometimes they do.

As for Theosophy I couldn't give a fuck about the modern generations, I care only if Blavatasky and that era knew something. 

I have never found anything useful in them personally, and afaik she wrote down stuff that she did not see herself and there are much better reliable sources of practices and information out there.

 

As for just living life as it is.  Well if that's how you want to do it, okay.  But from my perspective human beings have fucked themselves.   And they are going down.  They no longer live with dignity.  Inside they are deeply damaged, frightened and what hope do they have.

You have to fight against this.   You have to be a warrior.   Nothing is for free.   And all the stupid plans mankind has are not going to work, because they do not see clearly enough to know what the problem is ... .let alone finding the answer.

 

So yes you need guidance from a higher source.   Jesus ... who really knows Jesus?  Who does any of the practices that Jesus and his students prescribed?  Very very very few.

All those people who think they are Christians ... they have no the slightest idea who he was and what he wanted you to do.

 

There is something indeed truly dark and unconscious about this entire planet.  Just watch some nature programme some day.  Did you hear about the crows who attack frogs and peck through their skins to eat their livers ... afterwards the frog starts to die and exploded due to multiple organ failure.  Weird fucking planet.

The entire planet is dark and unconscious and vicious.

When you look at a person is there something in there that is different?

Only very rarely, humans are polite and well behaved but only on the surface ... and the surface is thin.

 

Blavatasky and their universal bullshithood .... all this will never work.   Only individual great courage, high quality teachers, and years of deep practice will work.

Narrow is the gate to life, and few find it.

 

If you live far away from society maybe you have a different choice, which is more natural and so on and you can live more normally.  Good for you.

 

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19 hours ago, Notimeleft said:

I know your sticking up for the occult, but only because your not deep in enough. 

 

Well ok, I see it more as defending the inquiry into the occult. Spirituality is the great mystery of life, do we have a soul? is there a God? these questions are profoundly important to man and deserve some investigation. I think people that dismiss it out of hand are narrow minded.

 

The occult is like Magic, it can be used for good or bad and study of it is not necessarily bad.

 

We only get one journey called life and I think study of its mysteries or the occult and asking the big questions and forming an opinion for oneself is hugely worthwhile, as is developing yourself physically and mentally, I used to lift weights, go to Karate and Tai Chi, I've learnt Card Magic which requires dexterity, learnt to Juggle as it created new networks in the brain, you mentioned somewhere your an engineer - so am I. I have an interest in many things, technology, cars the occult and religion being some of them. I think now the two are inseparable, if you delve into religion, you are entering the occult, I think Christianity may be more occult than some people realize, its ceremonies, practices and beliefs are occult. How can people be involved in religion and not realize it is magic and occult I don't know. But then I think back to when I was younger and wasn't sure I believed in God - yet there I was doing Ouija boards trying to contact the dead! Well if the spirits exist then probably a Godhead does too, yet to my mind at the time, they were separate concepts. But we learn, we live, thats the great thing about life and I believe the purpose of life is to live and part of that is looking into areas of life and experiencing what it has got to offer. Researching the occult is just one of those experiences and leads to opening up your intellect spiritually.

 

As for Blavatsky, I've just finished reading Isis Unveiled, I did pick up on the Aryan tones you mention, however, if it is propaganda then it is like all propaganda, it is mixed with truth. Thus it is worth looking into.

 

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Creating false institutions like the catholic faith.

 

Now your talking my language!!

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1 hour ago, pi3141 said:

 

Well ok, I see it more as defending the inquiry into the occult. Spirituality is the great mystery of life, do we have a soul? is there a God? these questions are profoundly important to man and deserve some investigation. I think people that dismiss it out of hand are narrow minded.

 

The occult is like Magic, it can be used for good or bad and study of it is not necessarily bad.

 

We only get one journey called life and I think study of its mysteries or the occult and asking the big questions and forming an opinion for oneself is hugely worthwhile, as is developing yourself physically and mentally, I used to lift weights, go to Karate and Tai Chi, I've learnt Card Magic which requires dexterity, learnt to Juggle as it created new networks in the brain, you mentioned somewhere your an engineer - so am I. I have an interest in many things, technology, cars the occult and religion being some of them. I think now the two are inseparable, if you delve into religion, you are entering the occult, I think Christianity may be more occult than some people realize, its ceremonies, practices and beliefs are occult. How can people be involved in religion and not realize it is magic and occult I don't know. But then I think back to when I was younger and wasn't sure I believed in God - yet there I was doing Ouija boards trying to contact the dead! Well if the spirits exist then probably a Godhead does too, yet to my mind at the time, they were separate concepts. But we learn, we live, thats the great thing about life and I believe the purpose of life is to live and part of that is looking into areas of life and experiencing what it has got to offer. Researching the occult is just one of those experiences and leads to opening up your intellect spiritually.

 

As for Blavatsky, I've just finished reading Isis Unveiled, I did pick up on the Aryan tones you mention, however, if it is propaganda then it is like all propaganda, it is mixed with truth. Thus it is worth looking into.

 

 

Now your talking my language!!

The important thing to remember is that something arises in us when we discover the nature of reality and realize our power. Weather it happens via religion or spirituality or through direct experience. We realize we are God. Or God is in us. And we think it is only us that has God. We forget then that if we are one organism(earth), then we are made equal. And we all have God in us. Can you see it in others or do you think they are wrong? Most think only they have God in them or only certain people have God in them. On the contrary it is everyone. I was deep into spirituality years and years ago and I would argue with my mother who is a born again. Amd she would finish my sentences when I was conveying the "truth" to her. We were arguing because we both thought we were God and the other one wasn't. But she was finish my sentences lol. 

 

So to out this on the occult on the higher levels these people think they are gods and everyone else isn't. They need to solve our problems. But when you do that, your are death, the destroyer of worlds. We need to show the new age movement that everyone else is God too. So let's create then instead of destroy. But their belief system needs to be attacked in the same way everyone else's belief system is being attacked to teach them this valuable lesson. And that is the only way any real problems will get solved is when we all go it together and reap what we sow with unconditional love.

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@rideforever I know that you understand and have the same wisdom as I. And you are very wise to see clearly that everyone is like this and that is precisely the point. It is incurable. The act of bringing disorder into order. I know you don't care about Blavatsky and her followers however these are people of power. And while they are against Christianity they have found a way to understand the exact thing of the Christian gnosis. Only difference is they think they are right and have the truth and the other religions don't. Which is exactly what they are preaching against. You see how this plays out. Problem with it is if we all bow down and except that there way is the truth and the other religions are wrong then in the end they are committing the same crime as the Christians. The new age philosophy and spirituality has a lot of the younger generation finding God in their own way. But, they don't realize it's the same as their enemies. If we can't show this to them then they will start war with all Christians. Because they are God and shit. But, they need to know that they are doing the same thing. I'm just suggesting a dose of their own medicine and maybe they will realize what they have done and humanity will not try and play God with others lives. And that is true freedom and unconditional love. If you have kids than you know, That no matter what they do when they leave you in the end that you love them and they are a part of you. Even if it's a part of you that you don't agree with.

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6 hours ago, rideforever said:

@Notimeleft

 

 

I need more of that for sure.

 

But I think the article below does a better job of explaining about all this, I can't lay it all out as good as this. Please read this and don't go along with this brother. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/phys.org/news/2020-11-universe-dubious-philosophy-human-extinction.amp

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8 hours ago, Notimeleft said:

Please read this

 

Reminds me of the Humanist philosophy and that stupid, self loathing ideal that we are a cancer on the Earth and deserve anihilation or Prince Phillips comment that he would like to come back as a virus and erradicate humans. Its dumb, its a stupid ideal that ignores all the good in the world and what potential we have. So Theosophists are not alone, many spiritual people abandon society and go off to lead a life of solitude, the erradication of humanity is the logical conclusion of that train of thought but it is anti-God and anti-reason. Its extreme and that alone should throw up a red flag.

 

So yes, if thats the Theosophist goal or ideal then its bad - but their not alone in that idea, its been touted by other groups including scientists, enviromentalists and monarchy and the elite as well as 'enlightened' individuals.

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5 minutes ago, pi3141 said:

Its extreme and that alone should throw up a red flag.

 

Well in the end they are right.  That's the problem, in the end they are right about human beings - something is terribly wrong.   Perhaps it's not their fault after all they didn't ask to be born.  But they are violent corrupt and destructive, greedy and lazy.

So ... spirituality happens when you can connect this shock of the horror of human beings with the high intention ... this is not so easy to do, because those who want to excuse human beings and be "compassionate" and basically lie that things are okay ... those rarely allow any of human reality to be known.  Otherwise that only want to talk of the dark don't know the light.

But there is a fertile river that runs from one to the other, that perhaps few people have the heart for.  But if you do ... then you have a problem and you work for a solution.  Then you will find the answer.

Otherwise you will be buried here like so many others and the wars and shit will continue.

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15 minutes ago, rideforever said:

 

Well in the end they are right.  That's the problem, in the end they are right about human beings - something is terribly wrong.   Perhaps it's not their fault after all they didn't ask to be born.  But they are violent corrupt and destructive, greedy and lazy.

So ... spirituality happens when you can connect this shock of the horror of human beings with the high intention ... this is not so easy to do, because those who want to excuse human beings and be "compassionate" and basically lie that things are okay ... those rarely allow any of human reality to be known.  Otherwise that only want to talk of the dark don't know the light.

But there is a fertile river that runs from one to the other, that perhaps few people have the heart for.  But if you do ... then you have a problem and you work for a solution.  Then you will find the answer.

Otherwise you will be buried here like so many others and the wars and shit will continue.

 

Funny but I was thinking of you when I wrote that post. I understand the feeling of hoplessness, I've been there, but all is not lost yet. This is Gods plan and its all worked out to the tiniest detail. I know there are those actively working to corrupt it and God knows that to.

 

At the end of the day we were created for a purpose and we will fulfill that purpose but its a rocky road. Just try to enjoy it, thats hard I know but I do believe it will all work out to Gods plan in the end.

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1 hour ago, rideforever said:

@pi3141

What are you doing?

 

Why should I be doing anything? Life is for living, I'm living it. Following my own path maybe? Just because I don't belong to a church that thinks sins can be forgiven by paying money to the preisthood doesn't make me a bad person or indicate I'm on the wrong path.

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Maybe your own choices.

However your attitude to the church is not intelligent.

This world is full of corruption and yet these places hold knowledge practices and solutions even amidst the corruption of this world.  The church is beyond any person who happens to be in there, what they say or what they do.  The practices and structure of the Catholic and Orthodox (i.e. the real churches) are ancient and there is plenty of light int hem.

Navigating this world it is useless to look for the uncorrupted.  Here, there is no such thing.  How difficult has it been to keep a church in existence for 2000 years in a half-hell world.?  It was not easy.

The teachings of all the great teachers are completely corrupt, for instance Buddhists are taught they don't exist.  What kind of a teaching is that?
Yet the rule is to follow it to the source and do the ancient practices the same way they were done and then answers come.

Whether any of this interests you, is up to you.

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Let It be know to any person who enters this thread and has not read the information provided within it. That i have shown evidence that without a shadow of a doubt the groups involved and the plot there of. Remember that the Theosophical society can be tied to mayor players, extreme wealth, and politicians. I have accepted death and welcome it. The extinction of the human race is upon us and those who don't stand up are complicite in the act. Now remember my friends the 7th root race and that they are autonomous beings who can't procreate. Be very careful here guys because don't let your preconceived notions and teachings by the very same groups you are standing up for blind you. This is wealthy family's who have everything, and are empty inside. They see the suffering of others and can't do much to fix it. But this is a pessimistic view of reality. I see the beauty and the life and the light in all. And when people choose to see someone as human waste, I SEE POTENTIAL. I see energy which can be used to create. 

 

Why are you both on this forum?

Why don't you want to stop this?

  

You guys both post about things going on trying to connect the dots. Post about hypocritical politicians and the covid hoax. But, you are facing strawmen. And even if you get rid of a politician there is another one right behind that is willing to take bribes and stand at the podium. I have showed the groups involved and their direct connections. We honestly should be posting on this thread more evidence. Which there is too much for me to post on my own.. However, instead we are arguing about the virtue of ending humanity and the culling of the human heard. Then you should both love covid 19. Wear thousands of masks and yell at anyone who doesn't comply. For it is the bitter end of humanity you desire. Real virtue is taking the bad and using it to do something good. 

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1 hour ago, Notimeleft said:

@rideforever @pi3141I have accepted death and welcome it. The extinction of the human race is upon us and those who don't stand up are complicite in the act.

 

Sorry but I'm not so fatalistic and I don't believe in the 'End Times' as 

 

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I see the beauty and the life and the light in all. And when people choose to see someone as human waste, I SEE POTENTIAL. I see energy which can be used to create. 

 

Good! Well done. So do I. 

 

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Why are you both on this forum?

 

This is an Anti-Religion forum and as I am Anti-Organized religion I'm kinda at home here, if your pro-religion - why are you on here?

 

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You guys both post about things going on trying to connect the dots. Post about hypocritical politicians and the covid hoax. But, you are facing strawmen. And even if you get rid of a politician there is another one right behind that is willing to take bribes and stand at the podium.

 

Yes exactly, so to an extent we are powerless but one thing we can do is talk about them, try and find their methods and expose them, educate yourself and don't rely on them for knowledge etc. You can't very well use a broken system to fix that system. 

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1 hour ago, pi3141 said:

 

Sorry but I'm not so fatalistic and I don't believe in the 'End Times'

Yes exactly, so to an extent we are powerless but one thing we can do is talk about them, try and find their methods and expose them, educate yourself and don't rely on them for knowledge etc. You can't very well use a broken system to fix that system. 

So why then is everyone try to argue that the death of humanity is a virtue. I am exposing them. And this is the real exposing not some politician having sex scandals or other nonsense. This is the organization and what it stands for and you can clearly read their literature and see the agenda and tie all entities to them. This is their method and I am exposing them. But nobody wants to participate. Rather I'm hereing well we are powerless and humanity deserves it. Then so mote it be.

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9 hours ago, rideforever said:

@Notimeleft

Okay but one thing you have to understand is that viruses come to feed on diseased flesh.

Rather than trying to eradicate the virus, better to make the flesh healthy, because there are always countless viruses.  You kill one and another one arrives.

Then why solve any problem. That's like saying I'm not going to fix my brakes because then the caliper might crack, and then maybe I'll have to replace brakes again in a few years. I should just get a new car instead.

 

And I say that because regardless what you do and how healthy your flesh is. Your bound to get sick. Amd my brakes are wear items.

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