Sexpistol50 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Have you ever heard of the Masonic Curse ? They say if any of your family were Freemasons they will pass on a family curse , are curses real can a person be cursed or is it just bad luck ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy1033 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) For every single person who has become president of usa, you have to have special skills. All people that have become president are likely to have modicom of skills, otherwise they would not even be there. Ask yourself, why did biden have that person he has as vice president? Why????? ^^ The answer is in your question.(harris is only there, because they think she has some skills in that area) I just told you why harris is vice president, and the only reason. Thankfully most people do not have any idea, and its better of that way. Why do you think senate in american capital hill has a prayer room? They go in there before they do anything in america, and assume they are putting energy into something. There is a similar room on 10 downing street. What i have written answers your question. Why do you think the council of masons, is in washington dc? Edited February 18, 2021 by andy1033 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayneDough Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Summary of Curses based on Deuteronomy 28 1. Mental and emotional disorders 2. Repeated or chronic sickness (often hereditary) 3. Barrenness, miscarriage and female reproductive problems 4. Breakdowns of marriage and family alienation 5. Continuing financial insufficiency (regardless of income level) 6. Being “accident-prone” 7. History of suicides and unnatural or untimely deaths http://static1.squarespace.com/static/55caa035e4b06e41a4a1e1fe/t/55e1fa21e4b09e1859638333/1440872993198/masonry-info.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 On 2/18/2021 at 7:47 PM, Sexpistol50 said: Have you ever heard of the Masonic Curse ? no never On 2/18/2021 at 7:47 PM, Sexpistol50 said: They say if any of your family were Freemasons they will pass on a family curse , I don't believe that The third degree of occult orders is the one where the initiate is making a magical bond to the order. The aim of these orders is to create an etheric link between the initiate and their egregore. But that etheric link is only to that person not to their family unless those family members also open themselves upto it. You have free will. If you choose to not engage with them then you are not bound On 2/18/2021 at 7:47 PM, Sexpistol50 said: are curses real can a person be cursed or is it just bad luck ? perhaps they can work on multiple levels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Macnamara said: perhaps they can work on multiple levels thomas sheridan once made an interesting point about how the countries where curses are most common are also the countries where the people are suffering the most like haiti. So cursing backfires in the sense that it is a redundant psychological coping mechanism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 On 2/18/2021 at 7:47 PM, Sexpistol50 said: Have you ever heard of the Masonic Curse ? They say if any of your family were Freemasons they will pass on a family curse , are curses real can a person be cursed or is it just bad luck ? We had a member on the old DI forum, they had dealings with some Freemasons (I think they were butchers) anyway, while in their shop the member said something to upset them and the Masons told this member 'it'll all be uphill for you now' insinuating they would curse the member. I don't know what happened to the member - hope their ok. So yes Masonic curses seem to be a thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 It's just a matter of how strong your will is. Curses are real..... so are blessings.... so are prayers... It's all part of our innate ability to subtly manipulate reality. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 3 hours ago, pi3141 said: Masons told this member 'it'll all be uphill for you now' insinuating they would curse the member. doesn't that just insinuate that they intend to use their influence in areas like planning, law, police, taxation, local government and so on to make life hard for that person? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 17 minutes ago, Macnamara said: doesn't that just insinuate that they intend to use their influence in areas like planning, law, police, taxation, local government and so on to make life hard for that person? Possibly. The member in question was in no doubt that they meant a curse and was understandably worried about it and came to the forum for advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, pi3141 said: Possibly. The member in question was in no doubt that they meant a curse and was understandably worried about it and came to the forum for advice. i piss on their curses 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, Macnamara said: i piss on their curses Lol. Yeah just doing a bit of searching now, found this - Quote Freedom Ministries International believes that people living today can be cursed and subject to demonic torment even if it was not them but an ancestor who made such an oath. Mr Robert added: "We get people to speak out in rejection of the blood oaths and curses made in the Masonic lodge. "As a result, we have had accounts coming in of people who have had all manner of health problems cured." The group believes the curse of Freemasonry can cause health problems ranging from heart trouble to cancer. Link - https://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/7365879.freemasonry-is-the-path-to-satan/ The main concern from Christians seems to be that Freemasonry itself is cursed due to the oaths I guess. Always struck me as profoundly alarming that the first thing Freemasons get you to do is swear on the Bible - at the pain of death no less, that you will not reveal its secrets. Yet written in that Bible is the instruction not to swear any oaths as they are from the evil one, hence the first thing a Mason asks a Christian to do is invert his own teachings! Big red flag for me and I don't consider myself a Christian - at least not in the tradition of Christianity today. Anyway, I wonder how much more inversion goes on as you rise through the degrees until in the end you are a Luciferian as Manly P hall and Albert Pike both assert and if it is Luciferian then magical workings and curses are part of that philosophy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, pi3141 said: Always struck me as profoundly alarming that the first thing Freemasons get you to do is swear on the Bible - at the pain of death no less, that you will not reveal its secrets. the freemasons have their own bibles with alternative versions of christianity Edited March 2, 2021 by Macnamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, Macnamara said: the freemasons have their own bibles with alternatives versions of christianity Doesn't suprise me, they obviously think they have special knowledge it must come from somewhere. Funny thing is, according to their own sources, they don't even know the origins of their system. I think they have knowledge they themselves don't understand. They are a lost group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, pi3141 said: Doesn't suprise me, they obviously think they have special knowledge it must come from somewhere. Funny thing is, according to their own sources, they don't even know the origins of their system. I think they have knowledge they themselves don't understand. They are a lost group. I'm afraid they do have 'special knowledge' or more specifically, 'special techniques' to alter consciousness. Magic is common place for them......... They are lost yes, but they are dangerous, evil and powerful and they can run rings around anyone out there who doesn't know what they're dealing with. If you met one of them who was powerful in the lodge and he was maliciously inclined to you they'd probably be able to hypnotise you in about ten seconds and you'd run around thinking you'd been abducted by aliens or something..... Hypnotism was Jimmy Saville's big gift... which he discovered entirely by accident.......but his knack for hypnotising people was his way in with the big boys. Edited March 2, 2021 by Truthspoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Truthspoon said: I'm afraid they do have 'special knowledge' or more specifically, 'special techniques' to alter consciousness. Magic is common place for them......... They are lost yes, but they are dangerous, evil and powerful and they can run rings around anyone out there who doesn't know what he's dealing with. If you met one of them they'd probably be able to hypnotise you in about ten seconds and you'd run around thinking you'd been abducted by aliens or something..... Yes I'd stay away. There was a time when I would have jumped at the chance of joining them but not anymore. I do read through some of their material online looking for hints but its all written with knowledge left out that only other masons would know and can fill in the gaps. Not much to be learned unless you join. I agree they are evil, although the most of the lower members don't know. They've had a hand in directing society and look at the state of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 ‘’Satanism is an ancient occult religion, comprised of diverse, inter connected networks of world-wide adherents. At its ideological core, this religion postulates that knowledge of the human psyche and knowledge of the laws of the universe should be occulted and held only by a few human beings. It is much more accurate to perceive satanists (and dark occultists in general) as ancient psychologists who hold and weild hidden information for the purpose of exploiting those who remain ignorant of it. Through the power differential they gain by way of manipulating those who remain in ignorance of this occulted knowledge, this small minority who are ‘in the know’ wish to permanently rule the masses of humanity and effectively BECOME GOD ON EARTH. It is important to understand that, contrary to popular belief, the overwhelmingly vast majority of satanists DO NOT worship an externalised deity known as ‘satan’ in the christian tradition, but instead see satanism as an ideological way-of-being in the world, and view the EGO-DRIVEN SELF as the ‘God’ of their religion....They want to rule as gods on a prison planet The symbolism and trappings of the christian devil or satan, are used in modern satanism for two reasons. The first is to try and make outsiders see satanism as ‘just another quaint religious belief’ that is based upon traditional christian belief systems. The second is to associate itself with the Adversarial Dynamic in nature, referred to as INVOLUTION in the occult world, the force which opposes true evolution in consciuousness. The word ‘satan’ comes from the hebrew word ‘hebrew symbols [shaitan]’ meaning ‘adversary’ or ‘opposer’. Satanism is ultimately about being opposed to the True Order of Natural Law (the Universal Laws of Morality which then govern behavioural consequences of beings who are gifted with the capacity for holistic intelligence and Free Will.)’’ -Mark Passio, The Unholy Feminine - Neo-Feminism & The Satanic Epi-Eugenics Agenda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 12 hours ago, Macnamara said: It is much more accurate to perceive satanists (and dark occultists in general) as ancient psychologists who hold and weild hidden information for the purpose of exploiting those who remain ignorant of it. I call them the black magicians and the corruption of religion has been their enduring influence or should I say victory. Since you bought up Satanism and I agree Freemasonry is Satanic - because the Mason's secret word for God is Jah-Bull-on, Bull being synonymous with Baal and Sun worship and Baal being associated with Satan, hence it seems the Mason's God is Satan and the Sun, its no more than Sun worship like many of the other mystery religions dating back to antiquity. That's my opinion from what I have read anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ire_Mane Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 The easiest way to curse someone is simply to convince them that they are cursed, then their own guilt and paranoia take care of the rest. But aside from that, curses are definitely possible, though ill advised as they often involve worse consequences for the one who cast it than the one it was cast against, depending on the karma of both involved. A key characteristic of the "Black Lodge" is knowing how to exploit the flaws of karma to cast curses without consequence to themselves. (The "Black Lodge" is essentially what you all would call the "Illuminati".) Freemasons on the other hand? They can't even recognize the esoteric significance in their own symbols and rituals, and generally (and hypocritically) disown any association with the Occult. So I strongly doubt that they have any real knowledge of casting effective curses. In my opinion, the Black Lodge pushes masonic conspiracy theories as a way of distracting attention away from themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ire_Mane Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 On 3/2/2021 at 4:00 PM, Macnamara said: ‘’Satanism is an ancient occult religion, comprised of diverse, inter connected networks of world-wide adherents. At its ideological core, this religion postulates that knowledge of the human psyche and knowledge of the laws of the universe should be occulted and held only by a few human beings. It is much more accurate to perceive satanists (and dark occultists in general) as ancient psychologists who hold and weild hidden information for the purpose of exploiting those who remain ignorant of it. Through the power differential they gain by way of manipulating those who remain in ignorance of this occulted knowledge, this small minority who are ‘in the know’ wish to permanently rule the masses of humanity and effectively BECOME GOD ON EARTH. It is important to understand that, contrary to popular belief, the overwhelmingly vast majority of satanists DO NOT worship an externalised deity known as ‘satan’ in the christian tradition, but instead see satanism as an ideological way-of-being in the world, and view the EGO-DRIVEN SELF as the ‘God’ of their religion....They want to rule as gods on a prison planet The symbolism and trappings of the christian devil or satan, are used in modern satanism for two reasons. The first is to try and make outsiders see satanism as ‘just another quaint religious belief’ that is based upon traditional christian belief systems. The second is to associate itself with the Adversarial Dynamic in nature, referred to as INVOLUTION in the occult world, the force which opposes true evolution in consciuousness. The word ‘satan’ comes from the hebrew word ‘hebrew symbols [shaitan]’ meaning ‘adversary’ or ‘opposer’. Satanism is ultimately about being opposed to the True Order of Natural Law (the Universal Laws of Morality which then govern behavioural consequences of beings who are gifted with the capacity for holistic intelligence and Free Will.)’’ -Mark Passio, The Unholy Feminine - Neo-Feminism & The Satanic Epi-Eugenics Agenda This, at least the gist of it, is absolutely true, with the correction that Satan primarily works through Christianity rather than the occult. The formula of achieving enlightenment through the sacrifice and suffering of another is the formula/method of Shaitan and the Black Lodge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 5 hours ago, Ire_Mane said: This, at least the gist of it, is absolutely true, with the correction that Satan primarily works through Christianity rather than the occult. I diasgree. I would say that the occult works through christianity and other institutions the satanists have their people in all kinds of religions and institutions. They are embedded right through the system and work through these bodies to gain gatekeeper positions of power so that they control all the key nodal points of power in society. This is why centralised power and pyramidal hierarchies always play into their hands 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael bishop Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 You can become a listener of freemasonic bread so to speak by not sleeping for 40 days..I've lasted 5 months of near non sleep on and off and the masoñic info is phonomanal....be prepared though if u lock yourself away for this for a supernatural series of knocks on your door...kinda like the Templars secret knock but in supernatural form as I've been through this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 42 minutes ago, Michael bishop said: You can become a listener of freemasonic bread so to speak by not sleeping for 40 days..I've lasted 5 months of near non sleep on and off and the masoñic info is phonomanal....be prepared though if u lock yourself away for this for a supernatural series of knocks on your door...kinda like the Templars secret knock but in supernatural form as I've been through this In your opinion are these all demonic voices or do you think some of the voices are from living humans who have the ability to astrally project their consciousness? I'm making a video about this topic at the moment, I'd like to hear more from you, you clearly are an interesting fellow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael bishop Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 No there from the mystical vocal ministry of catholic church as well as freemasonic division of bread so to speak as I've been tapped up in salisbury cathedral in 2014 to present day.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Michael bishop said: No there from the mystical vocal ministry of catholic church as well as freemasonic division of bread so to speak as I've been tapped up in salisbury cathedral in 2014 to present day.. What? No offense, but try that again please. Bear in mind some of the things which are evident for you might require a little explanation or context. Besides you didn't answer my question. Edited March 14, 2021 by Truthspoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabbirss Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 On 3/2/2021 at 1:38 PM, Truthspoon said: It's just a matter of how strong your will is. Curses are real..... so are blessings.... so are prayers... It's all part of our innate ability to subtly manipulate reality. this.bump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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