pi3141 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) On 5/31/2021 at 9:36 PM, ink said: Using 3 different versions of the bible ( 1611 king James, 1599 Geneva and Wycliffe 1382 ) in the opening of Genesis I (Not trying to discredit anything but looking for hidden meanings.) In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. - 1611 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. - 1599 In the beginning God made of nought heaven and earth. - 1382 This is a statement, an opening not meant as a description, as the description is then given. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. - 1611 And the earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the deep, and the Spirit of God moved upon the waters. - 1599 Forsooth the earth was idle and void, and darknesses were on the face of (the) depth; and the Spirit of the Lord was borne on the waters. - 1382 So from this we can find that the earth was not yet created. That darkness, depth and water already existed, so are not a creation of God. Then the spirit of God was moved or borne on the water. To give you another version, in my Bible - The Anchor Series, which is a modern literal translation of the original texts, in Genesis, it says something a bit different, this - When God set about to create heaven and earth - the world being then a formless waste, with darkness over the seas and only an awesome wind sweeping over the waters -- God said 'Let there be light'... So my translation gives a different account to your translation and we find the world was formed already at the beginning. My version is also a lot less prosaic than yours, seems the writers of your versions are applying some poetic licence - what with the whole 'In the beginning' very dramatic. In the next verse it simply says - God said 'Let there be an expanse in the middle of the waters to form a division between the waters' and it was so. Anyway, seems the earth was already here although a wasteland not a formless void, and he then went on to create day and night and habitable places, land - sounds to me more like terraforming. Then there's no mention of 'spirit born on the water' doesn't say anything like that in my Bible. Thought you might be interested to know, anyway I've jumped in ahead a bit, still got the rest of your post to read - sorry but reading your opening lines I just had to give you the comparison. I'll post if I find anymore. Edited June 18, 2021 by pi3141 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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