Jikwan Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 When, in all of recorded history has there been examples of the masses ever defeating a nations home army or government? One or two here and there.....next to nothing, really If you get to the point of an unarmed, untrained rabble against a well eqipped and organized army....it will be a massacre. The masses get mowed down Ok not as bad as that, what about a mass opening up of small buisnesses, sport arenas, concerts, dicarding masks and refusing to pay taxes by even 20 million people at the same time. "We are the many...we will show them!" The great mafia would not be amused. "Oooh, how fearsome and mighty are these masses!" Yeah theyre fucked now the masses roar. After about 8 hours of a nationwide orgy of wining, dining dancing and industry the electric power goes off all over the country. 8 hours is all it takes to send in sufficient troops well stocked with ammunition to guard the stations Thats it. Everything grinds to a halt. Thats plan A Plan B? All oil refineries get broken beyond repair Plan C? Cellphone/internet goes down They have plan D,E and F Its just got to happen in one country only. The rest of the world will learn using simple observation. Cause and probable effect Im open for to be convinced that mass non conformity is the real and only solution to this great mess 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz93666 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 (edited) Number of points there J ... First of all is there even a chance of getting mass non conformity? ... that's to say 20 or 40% of people wanting to end masks and lockdown ?? , that would be figures in an opinion poll .. and how many of these would ever make a stand , even risk a fine ?? .... 1 % ?? I don't think the Army would be used to impose lockdown against the will of the people , even if 70% wanted it and 30% didn't ... In Gandhi' s India 90% must have wanted the Brits out , under those conditions non cooperation worked. Edited February 13, 2021 by oz93666 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jikwan Posted February 13, 2021 Author Share Posted February 13, 2021 5 hours ago, oz93666 said: Number of points there J ... First of all is there even a chance of getting mass non conformity? ... that's to say 20 or 40% of people wanting to end masks and lockdown ?? , that would be figures in an opinion poll .. and how many of these would ever make a stand , even risk a fine ?? .... 1 % ?? I don't think the Army would be used to impose lockdown against the will of the people , even if 70% wanted it and 30% didn't ... In Gandhi' s India 90% must have wanted the Brits out , under those conditions non cooperation worked. Hey, oz i can see you got not much confidence in peoples willingness to join together and risk beatings, fines, imprisonment or death. You say 1%. Thats more or less it. There are always a small percentage of natural born fighters in every society. But when these guys try and rouse their non-agression loving neighbours they shoul find plenty of reluctance. If they havnt the backup of great numbers then they are not even going to try anything big themselves. Domestic man, suburban man hasnt developed fighting and revelutionary tendencies. Its like comparing a factory farmed pig with wild boars. Wild boars would rip you to pieces in seconds. It looked like non comformity worked in india.....i dont think so. The british were giving up all of their colonies at that time. India was way too big to rule properly from a distance. They were glad for any excuse to drop their burden. I made the mistake of thinking peoples last hope was mass noncomformity Mass Non comformformity isnt even on their list of last hope ideas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duewy Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Inorder to make any change of public opinion you need to control the information given to the public. And this is why Alphabet purchased the world media outlets, the world education outlets, and now the world social media outlets. As dreadful as the outlook has become I am preparing for the world to become worse. Argue with me as you may but facts are, the masses of the world are sheep who desire to find a leader. For the small percentage of people who are aware, life is changing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jikwan Posted February 13, 2021 Author Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Duewy said: Inorder to make any change of public opinion you need to control the information given to the public. And this is why Alphabet purchased the world media outlets, the world education outlets, and now the world social media outlets. As dreadful as the outlook has become I am preparing for the world to become worse. Argue with me as you may but facts are, the masses of the world are sheep who desire to find a leader. For the small percentage of people who are aware, life is changing. I make a slight addition In order to make people change their behaviour, you have to make a change of public opinion If the source of information is highly controlled there is no way to change their opinion. No change in behavior that you would like to see 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herecomesyourmam Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Not to mention that the great majority seek no information above what they are fed. They are happy in the rut that has been made for them. It's hopeless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jikwan Posted February 16, 2021 Author Share Posted February 16, 2021 5 hours ago, Herecomesyourmam said: Not to mention that the great majority seek no information above what they are fed. They are happy in the rut that has been made for them. It's hopeless. Absolutely. I reckon we shouldnt expect any great things from the masses. Their main concerns are pleasurable as possible life, comfort uncaring and worry free life, being as happy as they can and thats about it. They dont want any more problems. Hell, most of them dont even want to talk constructively about problems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Well the masses in Holland got the curfews changed, but that took physical action - which is not allowed to be spoken about and must be condemned at every opportunity. So I cannot condone this behaviour...and it is utterly reprehensible. I suggest instead speaking to your MP when they are back from their week break and see if they can raise it in the non-functioning House of Commons for you. This is your best option. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jikwan Posted February 16, 2021 Author Share Posted February 16, 2021 Disagree with you on every point. But thats ok, this is a place for expressing opinions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, Jikwan said: Disagree with you on every point. But thats ok, this is a place for expressing opinions. l think Mr H is being humourously ironic.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jikwan Posted February 16, 2021 Author Share Posted February 16, 2021 No. He 200% serious an im not going anywhere near that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 On 2/16/2021 at 8:50 PM, Mr H said: Well the masses in Holland got the curfews changed, but that took physical action - which is not allowed to be spoken about and must be condemned at every opportunity. So I cannot condone this behaviour...and it is utterly reprehensible. I suggest instead speaking to your MP when they are back from their week break and see if they can raise it in the non-functioning House of Commons for you. This is your best option. Would you like to spell this out for some ? BC :O) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmoGenesis Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 On 2/16/2021 at 9:13 PM, Jikwan said: No. He 200% serious an im not going anywhere near that 500% srs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duewy Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Some days I think about all the information that I have observed from the world. The internet is a powerful platform for sharing knowledge as well as cat videos. Each day I see the numbers of the world's people taking on the instructions from their governments and carrying out them without question. To me it is mind boggling but then again I am use to not being part of the crowd. In church I felt the hand of god through father x many times when I would as a question. It was clear that questioning was a bad thing... but even as a child I had trouble watching my friends follow the teachings so blindly even when they knew that somethings did not make sense. It was like a wall would be put up and because it was god then it didn't have to make sense. Well many a decade has passed and yet I find myself in the same dilemma for questioning, this time god has been replaced by government and my friend (people who are in my area) are insistent that the government speaks the truth no matter how much it does not make sense. I find myself wondering more and more whether it is worth it, why should I try so hard to save those who are insistent on walking into the fire pit? Why shouldn't they be allowed to follow ??? Unfortunately I and my loved ones are being dragged down with them... or maybe I should just worry about my family and find our own way to ride this out, watch the culling, gather some wealth, and come out the other side ahead of the game. The tougher things get the smaller the tribe becomes, a phrase that I read a long longtime ago 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jikwan Posted February 25, 2021 Author Share Posted February 25, 2021 4 hours ago, Duewy said: Some days I think about all the information that I have observed from the world. The internet is a powerful platform for sharing knowledge as well as cat videos. Each day I see the numbers of the world's people taking on the instructions from their governments and carrying out them without question. To me it is mind boggling but then again I am use to not being part of the crowd. In church I felt the hand of god through father x many times when I would as a question. It was clear that questioning was a bad thing... but even as a child I had trouble watching my friends follow the teachings so blindly even when they knew that somethings did not make sense. It was like a wall would be put up and because it was god then it didn't have to make sense. Well many a decade has passed and yet I find myself in the same dilemma for questioning, this time god has been replaced by government and my friend (people who are in my area) are insistent that the government speaks the truth no matter how much it does not make sense. I find myself wondering more and more whether it is worth it, why should I try so hard to save those who are insistent on walking into the fire pit? Why shouldn't they be allowed to follow ??? Unfortunately I and my loved ones are being dragged down with them... or maybe I should just worry about my family and find our own way to ride this out, watch the culling, gather some wealth, and come out the other side ahead of the game. The tougher things get the smaller the tribe becomes, a phrase that I read a long longtime ago It seems you are saying this blind beleiving and following of corrupt govt is a new thing. That we have degenerated from more enlightened times in the past. Way i see it is its.normal. The mass populations have always been like this. It is their nature, and they can hardly help themselves Ordinary people are easy to decieve. All it takes is you got to look good, speak in a smooth and confident manner and possess a certain amount of charisma and you just about got them all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrShultz Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Videos: Police Harass People For Walking, Sitting As Chief Admits ‘We’ve Had Enough, This Is Not Policeable’ https://www.infowars.com/posts/videos-police-harass-people-for-walking-sitting-as-chief-admits-weve-had-enough-this-is-not-policeable/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jikwan Posted March 2, 2021 Author Share Posted March 2, 2021 1 hour ago, HerrShultz said: Videos: Police Harass People For Walking, Sitting As Chief Admits ‘We’ve Had Enough, This Is Not Policeable’ https://www.infowars.com/posts/videos-police-harass-people-for-walking-sitting-as-chief-admits-weve-had-enough-this-is-not-policeable/ Sometimes the sun shines through the clouds I been suspecting that they be wanting to recruit a lot more police to control an increasingly angry and Rebellious public They would have to increase their numbers by 50% and militarize them much more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 2 hours ago, HerrShultz said: Videos: Police Harass People For Walking, Sitting As Chief Admits ‘We’ve Had Enough, This Is Not Policeable’ https://www.infowars.com/posts/videos-police-harass-people-for-walking-sitting-as-chief-admits-weve-had-enough-this-is-not-policeable/ Bloody domestic coffee terrorists. They're the most dangerous. They must be stopped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 On 2/13/2021 at 10:13 AM, Jikwan said: When, in all of recorded history has there been examples of the masses ever defeating a nations home army or government? One or two here and there.....next to nothing, really If you get to the point of an unarmed, untrained rabble against a well eqipped and organized army....it will be a massacre. The masses get mowed down Ok not as bad as that, what about a mass opening up of small buisnesses, sport arenas, concerts, dicarding masks and refusing to pay taxes by even 20 million people at the same time. "We are the many...we will show them!" The great mafia would not be amused. "Oooh, how fearsome and mighty are these masses!" Yeah theyre fucked now the masses roar. After about 8 hours of a nationwide orgy of wining, dining dancing and industry the electric power goes off all over the country. 8 hours is all it takes to send in sufficient troops well stocked with ammunition to guard the stations Thats it. Everything grinds to a halt. Thats plan A Plan B? All oil refineries get broken beyond repair Plan C? Cellphone/internet goes down They have plan D,E and F Its just got to happen in one country only. The rest of the world will learn using simple observation. Cause and probable effect Im open for to be convinced that mass non conformity is the real and only solution to this great mess I think the old rule of thumb is that only 10% the the population actually fights in a revolution. That's all that is required. I've heard that a few times. I think regarding the American revolution or somewhere. You only need a small amount of dedicated rebels to win. Not literally every single person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 On 2/17/2021 at 7:50 AM, Mr H said: Well the masses in Holland got the curfews changed, but that took physical action - which is not allowed to be spoken about and must be condemned at every opportunity. So I cannot condone this behaviour...and it is utterly reprehensible. I suggest instead speaking to your MP when they are back from their week break and see if they can raise it in the non-functioning House of Commons for you. This is your best option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jikwan Posted March 2, 2021 Author Share Posted March 2, 2021 1 hour ago, DarianF said: I think the old rule of thumb is that only 10% the the population actually fights in a revolution. That's all that is required. I've heard that a few times. I think regarding the American revolution or somewhere. You only need a small amount of dedicated rebels to win. Not literally every single person. I been on the lookout for any kind of movement from these wonderful, mighty, brave, highly organized, well led revolutionaries for more than a year already. Not a single squeak from them yet. And how much success did the revolutionaries achieve occupied by the nazis? A bit. Slowed them down a little. What about the revolutionaries in old china,russia cambodia? Next to nothing. The people of old were much tougher, stronger and less diverse than our present societies. We have lived too long in comfort. To create a fighting man requires a long time to develop and train up. Keep your spirits high, man. Better than dispair I like to think your way too, sometimes. But i know it to be a fantasy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jikwan said: I been on the lookout for any kind of movement from these wonderful, mighty, brave, highly organized, well led revolutionaries for more than a year already. Not a single squeak from them yet. And how much success did the revolutionaries achieve occupied by the nazis? A bit. Slowed them down a little. What about the revolutionaries in old china,russia cambodia? Next to nothing. The people of old were much tougher, stronger and less diverse than our present societies. We have lived too long in comfort. To create a fighting man requires a long time to develop and train up. Keep your spirits high, man. Better than dispair I like to think your way too, sometimes. But i know it to be a fantasy My assessment is we are totally fucked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jikwan Posted March 2, 2021 Author Share Posted March 2, 2021 16 minutes ago, DarianF said: My assessment is we are totally fucked. I am always waivering between totally fucked and 99% guaranteed collapse and mass genocide That 1% that seperates me lies in the knowlege that the great, cruel mafia can be defeated if we could get hold of the formula for anti gravity device. There are scalar wave weapons that are much more effective than conventional weapons. We just need the formulas so we can build them. They can be built in short time There is no one out there thinking along these lines Those techs that have this knowlege but are sitting on it.....i cant understand why they do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowmoon Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 On 2/13/2021 at 2:24 PM, Duewy said: Inorder to make any change of public opinion you need to control the information given to the public. And this is why Alphabet purchased the world media outlets, the world education outlets, and now the world social media outlets. As dreadful as the outlook has become I am preparing for the world to become worse. Argue with me as you may but facts are, the masses of the world are sheep who desire to find a leader. For the small percentage of people who are aware, life is changing. I read Sonny Barger's autobiography & he said something like. "Most people don't want any more trouble than they think they can handle." He's an astute guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jikwan Posted March 2, 2021 Author Share Posted March 2, 2021 31 minutes ago, shadowmoon said: I read Sonny Barger's autobiography & he said something like. "Most people don't want any more trouble than they think they can handle." He's an astute guy. What you said explains very well why the masses are not wanting to get involved Everything so expensive, rent, insurance taxes have no savings working 2 jobs maybe. Living from paycheck to paycheck, relationship might not be going well etc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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