Liberty Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Earth Needs Fewer People to Beat the Climate Crisis, Scientists Say More than 11,000 experts sign an emergency declaration warning that energy, food and reproduction must change immediately. By Eric Roston 5 November 2019, 15:00 GMT https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-11-05/scientists-call-for-population-control-in-mass-climate-alarm isolating people, destroying businesses, taking all their wealth and giving them this jab should do the trick. Nice timing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 12 hours ago, Liberty said: Earth Needs Fewer People to Beat the Climate Crisis, Scientists Say More than 11,000 experts sign an emergency declaration warning that energy, food and reproduction must change immediately. By Eric Roston 5 November 2019, 15:00 GMT https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-11-05/scientists-call-for-population-control-in-mass-climate-alarm isolating people, destroying businesses, taking all their wealth and giving them this jab should do the trick. Nice timing. In some regions this is true, I took a trip to the Galapagos islands (I'm a wildlife photographer) back in 2014. It was a wonderful experience, precious and rare animals thrive there that are not found in any other region of the planet, ditto Madagascar with the lemurs etc (awesome, 2016). In both these areas I was shocked to see the DREADFUL damage that humans in their ever increasing numbers had caused. This included mining, deforestation (horrendous damage), intensive farming, slash burning (drove though this in Madagascar, hell if there ever was one anywhere!). The other factors were the impact of cars, vans, domestic animals (cats, dogs, farm animals) and worst of all the entirely irresponsible dumping of heavy metals, plastics and their own faeces, you could smell the humans from half a mile away, a mix of spiced food and shit, and there was plastic strewn everywhere all along the road from Nairobi to the Mara/Amboseli where I saw this in Kenya too. Women (especially in rural areas) are breeding factories. From age 12 it's baby every year, no rights to say NO MORE! Seriously, it's awful. the Catholic church pontificates over them all, (particularly in Madagascar), "women are just wombs!", this is dogmatic Ignorance beyond words, yet every year more and more humans are added to the mix, a billion every 10 years, by mid century the human species will exceed 10 BILLION, 2 x that by century's end, in 1000 years, what, 100, 1000 billion? This cannot go on, surely humans are worth more than this endless and pointless breeding and the problems it causes? Most young people don't want all this breeding, a couple of kids at most. Solution: fund free and reliable CONTRACEPTIVE options, sterilizations and vasectomies, planetwide, a.s.a.p. Seems wise to me. Gates, Zuckerberg, Musk and pals CAN PAY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted February 1, 2021 Author Share Posted February 1, 2021 4 hours ago, Clare Wise said: In some regions this is true, I took a trip to the Galapagos islands (I'm a wildlife photographer) back in 2014. It was a wonderful experience, precious and rare animals thrive there that are not found in any other region of the planet, ditto Madagascar with the lemurs etc (awesome, 2016). In both these areas I was shocked to see the DREADFUL damage that humans in their ever increasing numbers had caused. This included mining, deforestation (horrendous damage), intensive farming, slash burning (drove though this in Madagascar, hell if there ever was one anywhere!). The other factors were the impact of cars, vans, domestic animals (cats, dogs, farm animals) and worst of all the entirely irresponsible dumping of heavy metals, plastics and their own faeces, you could smell the humans from half a mile away, a mix of spiced food and shit, and there was plastic strewn everywhere all along the road from Nairobi to the Mara/Amboseli where I saw this in Kenya too. Women (especially in rural areas) are breeding factories. From age 12 it's baby every year, no rights to say NO MORE! Seriously, it's awful. the Catholic church pontificates over them all, (particularly in Madagascar), "women are just wombs!", this is dogmatic Ignorance beyond words, yet every year more and more humans are added to the mix, a billion every 10 years, by mid century the human species will exceed 10 BILLION, 2 x that by century's end, in 1000 years, what, 100, 1000 billion? This cannot go on, surely humans are worth more than this endless and pointless breeding and the problems it causes? Most young people don't want all this breeding, a couple of kids at most. Solution: fund free and reliable CONTRACEPTIVE options, sterilizations and vasectomies, planetwide, a.s.a.p. Seems wise to me. Gates, Zuckerberg, Musk and pals CAN PAY! I watched a good documentary years ago about the deforestation there. From what I remember it was corporate deforestation and people being displaced not done by the locals. I agree improving life quality and opportunities is a good way at managing population growth but as this video shows it was already declining worldwide, including India which had fell to just below replacement level (if I remember right it was 2 when replacement level is 2.1) Then in November 2019 11,000 “experts” declared the world was going to reach growth which would put a strain on resources (How much fruit and veg gets thrown away just because it’s the wrong shape) Again another corporate thing. The timing of it all. 11,000 “experts” calling for population reduction then the plandemic. I think that documentary about the Galápagos Islands was presented by Simon reeves. If anyone wants sterilisation or hysterectomies that’s their business but what he was explained was that women in Brazil were being given the option of sterilisation at the time of their first born. There was a comment underneath from someone saying how wrong the men were and that they were lying. Their mother was offered sterilisation at the time of their birth because she had a medical condition. Well you see that if you have a doctor with the mindset of a eugenicist how that would turn out. Everyone of the patients would be offered it or told they had a “condition” that required it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted February 1, 2021 Author Share Posted February 1, 2021 Yayyy. I found it. Sure it’s this one. https://hdclump.com/equator-with-simon-reeve-episode-3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 16 hours ago, Liberty said: I watched a good documentary years ago about the deforestation there. From what I remember it was corporate deforestation and people being displaced not done by the locals. I agree improving life quality and opportunities is a good way at managing population growth but as this video shows it was already declining worldwide, including India which had fell to just below replacement level (if I remember right it was 2 when replacement level is 2.1) Then in November 2019 11,000 “experts” declared the world was going to reach growth which would put a strain on resources (How much fruit and veg gets thrown away just because it’s the wrong shape) Again another corporate thing. The timing of it all. 11,000 “experts” calling for population reduction then the plandemic. I think that documentary about the Galápagos Islands was presented by Simon reeves. If anyone wants sterilisation or hysterectomies that’s their business but what he was explained was that women in Brazil were being given the option of sterilisation at the time of their first born. There was a comment underneath from someone saying how wrong the men were and that they were lying. Their mother was offered sterilisation at the time of their birth because she had a medical condition. Well you see that if you have a doctor with the mindset of a eugenicist how that would turn out. Everyone of the patients would be offered it or told they had a “condition” that required it. Interesting Liberty. I believe personally that sterilization /vasectomy should be voluntary. Good idea actually, most people want a couple of kids, not an endless supply. A pal of mine had a sterie (tubal ligation) after her third child, she didn't want the continual worry of pill taking anymore (or the risk which is considerable over 30 years, say from 25 - 55), she got this on the NHS (paid for, it wasn't cheap). Another pal of mine went to Mexico (this was in the late seventies and had a sterie (no kids, aged 23, didn't want any ever/lovely woman works for the RSPCA), had the operation 'legal at any age' there, Actually it might have been Brazil, (?). Thing is she couldn't obtain it here on the NHS or even privately (not cheap) because the powers that be said "she was too young" Abortion though, that's fine - her GP actually said that that was a more acceptable choice! (To me unwanted pregnancies should be prevented rather than 'cured', maybe I'm old fashioned that way , I prefer contraception options or steries as a woman over abortion (am not against it though, freedom of choice matters) but that of course is a whole different issue). I had a sterie at 32 after years of worry over pregnancy fears ans I certainly did not want kids (care about them of course, just didn't want any), some people call me EVIL because of that! Cost £1000, Marie Stopes, even then I had to prove (my work as a wildlife photographer was taken seriously by the surgeon "oh wow, I see that's not a life to have kids with you on location is it" (probably not, although some photographers do! Point is, at 8 billion, surely these choices NO KIDS THANKS should get more respect and funding, or I'VE HAD ENOUGH KIDS, DON'T WANT ANY MORE? Sadly though, it rarely is and in most cultures, there is no funding for contraception at all. The Galapagos problem was sewage, tonnes of it, human waste - it is the same in the main rivers of many cities in 'developing' nations, even the Thames at one time, RAW SEWAGE is dumped into the water supplies, together with all kids of other plastics, heavy metals etc. The more humans there are, the worse the pollution and destruction of this wonderful planet upon which all life depends, becomes. Mega corporation /profiteering and industry play a part too. For an INTELLIGENT SPECIES, as humans are, to me this exponential breeding seems wrong. Oh well how will the future pan out? 10 billion? 20? 50, more? I have no idea. It is up to young humans - their future, their fertility, their choice. Thank you for your post and comments, numbers matter! Have a good day x. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 (edited) If we are to have fewer people then we should start with the richest 1% who are the biggest polluters and then we should get rid of their globalist corporations which are also the biggest polluters and feed the beast of the military machine that would be the logical thing to do if that were the real goal But instead the richest 1% are going to attempt to remove the lowest 50%+ Edited February 2, 2021 by Macnamara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chud Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 what if people stopped f!ckin like animals ?... there's a means for it, monks have been doing bloodletting for centuries trying to 'diminish' themselves without seeing where the real problem was... and by the way I guess the most populated countries aren't so crowded because people make too many children, but because they're among the OLDEST civilizations like in India or China... let the USA grow for a thousand more years and you'll see how many they'll be... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Net Curtains Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 I honestly believe this is why we are in this situation......if the governments of the world today came out today and say, you all need to learn to be vegan by 2025......farming animals as took out the rainforests, polluted our waters etc etc ( a huge part of the world starves by the way, this is through feeding the better off). you all are only allowed 1 child...or we are going to randomly select individuals out of a hat( exaggeration) and you arent allowed to have children. your electric will be off at certain times a day...and so on......... there would be fucking uproar....( i would agree to all of it, but thats my choice, ur welcome to yours....n thats the problem) so the only logical choices you have is........branch out and move to another planet...........or kill 40% of the population indiscriminately the problem we have is theyv chosen to kill us......... theyv not given us the option to save ourselves..... theyv made the choice for us....... and because they think they are race horses.......they are gunna hand pick the races,countries and ultimately the DNA (why the PCR TEST IS USED,DNA GRAB) that lives. IT WAS ALWAYS COMING TO THIS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chud Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Did men ever found there were too many fishes, birds or of any other animal species on Earth ? It was just conveniently decreed there were too many of them at some places, until they ended up going missing and there'll soon be no more... well the human kind is being numbered and 'managed' like it's livestock, that's the problem along with those doing it... There'll always be room on Earth for more than the mankind could ever get, not to mention that we'll soon have got done with the oxygen we needed to breath on this planet so problem solved anyway, people are already suffering from altitude sickness at sea level... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy1033 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, chud said: There'll always be room on Earth for more than the mankind could ever get, not to mention that we'll soon have got done with the oxygen we needed to breath on this planet so problem solved anyway, people are already suffering from altitude sickness at sea level... Personally i do not agree. Before modern medicine nature had mankinds population under control, and kept it quite low. Its totally absurd how quickly the population has risen just in our lifes. When i was born, it was 4 billion, now its nearly doubled just in my life, to nearly 8 billion. So i respectively disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chud Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 44 minutes ago, andy1033 said: Before modern medicine nature had mankinds population under control, and kept it quite low. yes by killing off one newborn on three and spreading STD's, but it was just because of people's lack of hygien and knowledge, so why depriving them from the benefit of it all now that they finally got it ?... maybe 90% of Earth's surface remains unhinabited or unexploited, anyway as I said the problem will soon get solved and we'll not survive enough long to check what 'overpopulation' might feel like... 50% of the Earth's oxygen production sources got destroyed or depleted already and it's still going on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy1033 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Just now, chud said: yes by killing off one newborn on three and spreading STD's, but it was just because of people's lack of hygien and knowledge, so why depriving them from the benefit of it all now that they finally got it ?... maybe 90% of Earth's surface remains unhinabited or unexploited, anyway as I said the problem will soon get solved and we'll not survive enough long to check what 'overpopulation' might feel like... 50% of the Earth's oxygen production sources got destroyed or depleted already and it's still going on... Nature had its system, and humans being humans wanted to over step it. We will have to agree to disagree on over population. I personally think the world economy can only really sustain 2 billion people. Beyond that, people will be living in the dirt. I doubt any world economic system can sustain more the 2 billion to live a decent life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chud Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 I guess you think in term of 'capital' and 'how to feed the mankind'... that's what world domination is all about, but I personally think the mankind has no limit as to how men are able to live in peace and decently no matter how many they are on Earth... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chud Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Nature is nature while 'economy' is a men's creation, a set-up intended mainly to benefit the mightiest at the expense of the rest… a handful privileged ones stealing and wasting 1000 times what to deprive their millions victims from living decently… I'm not advocating 'communism' or anything but if we're to intervene in the natural course of things then it should not lead to worse than what might happen otherwise… they aren't the handful ones who're bearing the difference but the all rest of the mankind… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy1033 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, chud said: Nature is nature while 'economy' is a men's creation, a set-up intended mainly to benefit the mightiest at the expense of the rest… a handful privileged ones stealing and wasting 1000 times what to deprive their millions victims from living decently… I'm not advocating 'communism' or anything but if we're to intervene in the natural course of things then it should not lead to worse than what might happen otherwise… they aren't the handful ones who're bearing the difference but the all rest of the mankind… We are all entitled to our opinion. I just think its wrong, that the world let the situation get this far, so that probably there are literally billions not living any sort of life. I cannot speak for all those people, but i can assume these people are not living any sort of life, ie those very poor. Most of the worlds problems are down to over population. I think its disgusting that the world let this get so bad, ie its nearly 8 billion now. You have to wonder how many people actually have a functional liveable life? I have always believed that the world economy can only sustain 2 billion at a max, and me living all these years, and seeing how things work, i do not have a different opinion now. Its my opinion, and its fine if people do not agree. I just think the world economy cannot sustain any more then 2 billion living a decent life. I think its disgusting that in my life, and i was born in 1975, that the world population has doubled from 4 billion when i was born, to nearly 8 billion. So in 46 years, its doubled, and people do not see that as a problem. Edited February 2, 2021 by andy1033 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chud Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 37 minutes ago, andy1033 said: I think its disgusting that in my life, and i was born in 1975, that the world population has doubled from 4 billion when i was born, to nearly 8 billion. So in 46 years, its doubled, and people do not see that as a problem. well I's born more than 10 years before and I don't see any reason to complain about what you did... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowmoon Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 The world was created with enough for all, but some are just greedy and grasp at too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooey Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 greta thunberg doesnt have soul am sorry to say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldnah Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 (edited) On 2/2/2021 at 10:24 PM, andy1033 said: Personally i do not agree. Before modern medicine nature had mankinds population under control, and kept it quite low. Its totally absurd how quickly the population has risen just in our lifes. When i was born, it was 4 billion, now its nearly doubled just in my life, to nearly 8 billion. So i respectively disagree. Africa is a prime example of whats gone wrong (and it isnt blaming brown people at all) Europe Education improved Science improved - healthcare improved - individual Wealth improved As Science (includes agriculture) and healthcare improve lie expectancy increases - especially as concerns child mortality As Education and individual wealth (not just money) improve Birth rates fall Unfortunatly to an extent it was assumed Childmortality down and Birth rates would fall and that brings us to Africa the west sees suffering Africans and so sends aid We reduce the child mortallity rates - but without education it does nothing to adress birth rates So Africa is still in the low education high birth rate society - but Western aid means reduced child mortality - hence the need to focus on education especially of females in order to reduce population growth. Worse still Western Aid in its current form is locking Africa into a cycle of poverty Theres a farmer selling wheat for 10E a bag - nex door is a UN aid centre giving it away. It may be we need to consider Giving /selling / loaning the wheat to a farmer whos crops have failed - then he can sell it - that way nobody starves - but he can still pay his bills and his mens wages - When he gets a good crop then he sells his own wheat. No more UN aid - but this time no destitute armers - no abandoned land and potentialy less transient populations = more chance to educate girls. The more easily outraged will now shout racist at me - the more discerning will realise if im pointing the finger at anyone its the missguided counterproductive attempts to help by white people Edited February 5, 2021 by Eldnah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted February 5, 2021 Author Share Posted February 5, 2021 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Eldnah said: Worse still Western Aid in its current form is locking Africa into a cycle of poverty Theres a farmer selling wheat for 10E a bag - nex door is a UN aid centre giving it away It is China that is locking Africa into a cycle of poverty. Pouring loads of money into it that has got to be paid back whilst robbing it of riches and minerals. The CCP has deep roots there so you can expect anyone coming out of Africa to have either a strong connection to the CCP or strongly opposed as they see it for what it is ( slavery) China is building big in Africa with all the Africans doing the menial work on low pay. It’s slavery but others will look at it as China is helping Africa. It isn’t, it is exploiting it. Families too have displaced from land and moved into urban areas. This video explains the monetary links. Tony Blair has been apart of it with his institute for change. https://youtu.be/zQV_DKQkT8o sorry video won’t embed again. Edited February 5, 2021 by Liberty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldnah Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 13 minutes ago, Liberty said: It is China that is locking Africa into a cycle of poverty. Pouring loads of money into it that has got to be paid back whilst robbing it of riches and minerals. The CCP has deep roots there so you can expect anyone coming out of Africa to have either a strong connection to the CCP or strongly opposed as they see it for what it is ( slavery) China is building big in Africa with all the Africans doing the menial work on low pay. It’s slavery but others will look at it as China is helping Africa. It isn’t, it is exploiting it. Families too have displaced from land and moved into urban areas. This video explains the monetary links. Tony Blair has been apart of it with his institute for change. https://youtu.be/zQV_DKQkT8o sorry video won’t embed again. Agree and disagree Agree that China is doing this**, but disagree (a bit) because my point about Western aids negative impacts predates Chinese involvement and is still an issue today - you could probably chuck in Soviet aid if you wish to include historic screw ups. **Obviously as its not a Western country this is studiously ignored by most Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted February 5, 2021 Author Share Posted February 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, Eldnah said: Agree and disagree Agree that China is doing this**, but disagree (a bit) because my point about Western aids negative impacts predates Chinese involvement and is still an issue today - you could probably chuck in Soviet aid if you wish to include historic screw ups. **Obviously as its not a Western country this is studiously ignored by most I agree and disagree too because it’s all under the same NWO umbrella but the exploration is being done by the Chinese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chud Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 Both Africa and China are BIG territories and their inhabitants of the oldest civilizations on Earth, and it's not all over China or Africa but in their urban areas that you may find high population concentrations, so it's just THEIR way of living, they're fine with it and we Westerners shouldn't mind about it just because we FEAR the Black or the Asian… Strange like China gets spot and demonized for its economical growth and 'expansionism' but never granted for its one-child policy that never sparkled 'uprisings' by its population… On another hand this retard of Malthus 'authored' a book promoting the idea that 'useless mouths' and 'obsolete' populations had to disappear so that the rest could survive, so please tell me whether you see common sense in all there and WHERE ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chud Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 It's all Western propaganda anyway, wherever we leave them alone most Africans feel well and happy as much 'poor' and outnumbered they may seem to us, and by the way many African countries now got sovereign governments and populations, so they picked China over all other candidates to exploit their lands and there must be a reason for it… China explained it through its propaganda saying it was a two-way agreement, while with most Europeans or Americans it was 'give & die'… our landlords can't put-up with the fact it's over and the 'good old days' are gone, that's why they're now torturing their own peoples as a 'relief'… Africa is great, its peoples are mostly welcoming and helpful as much to their fellows as to the foreigner, so God bless the Chinese if they don't do like they predecessors but help Africa become a peaceful and wealthy nation… much like many South Americans these people don't need the artifices we need to feel well, because they're smart enough to live in SUSTAINABLE climates… Look at what happened to the idiots of us : we got herded in towns between concrete walls for alleged 'security' and comfort just to end-up LOCKED DOWN inside and remotely tormented through TV or computer screens… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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