Niels12 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 We all know what is going to happen. But how can we avoid being a part of it? Can we even live without taking the vaccine? Should we go live off grid? Is this even an option? What can we do if we refuse the vaccine. where will we go when we are not part of the smart cities? Even closer in time: What will we do when they block our bank account for not taking the vaccine? What are the alternatives and solutions to this fate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) Its going to need peaceful mass non cooperation This can take many forms from resisting large scale schemes like the experimental covid injection roll out or it can be little things that you change in your life such as who you bank with I think its time we re-evaluated how we are using our money and then use that money to support things we want to see more of as part of consumer activism whilst boycotting things we want less of In short voting with our feet in large numbers Edited January 30, 2021 by Macnamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels12 Posted January 30, 2021 Author Share Posted January 30, 2021 22 minutes ago, Macnamara said: Its going to need peaceful mass non cooperation This can take many forms from resisting large scale schemes like the experimental covid injection roll out or it can be little things that you change in your life such as who you bank with I think its time we re-evaluated how we are using our money and then use that money to support things we want to see more of as part of consumer activism whilst boycotting things we want less of In short voting with our feet in large numbers How do you think this will happen. It is true, but very unlikely. Such a large number of people will rise up imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chud Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 it all was started and is run by and from the USA, so it's up to the American people to make it stop and they're the only ones who can do it, I think.. we Europeans do not hold the same rights or power... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels12 Posted January 30, 2021 Author Share Posted January 30, 2021 16 minutes ago, chud said: it all was started and is run by and from the USA, so it's up to the American people to make it stop and they're the only ones who can do it, I think.. we Europeans do not hold the same rights or power... Yes in the USA people still have guns and their values. But this is another battle. I don't think we have allot to with them eventually. Each continent/country will have their own battles. And we do have complete rights if we apply the laws of the land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chud Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 They aren't values but plain rights allowed by their constitution. I's alluding to cutting the head of the snake, and I didn't mean for the Americans to 'revolt' against their authorities but ensuring that the shadow government that rules America be removed from its hidden power… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels12 Posted January 30, 2021 Author Share Posted January 30, 2021 Why is it up to the American people to make it stop? This is a worldwide operation. If it stops there, why would it stop here too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chud Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Again I's alluding to cutting the head of the Dragon... then I don't hintk it's about 'world order' since neither order or a world government is what 'they' want : they want permanent war... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 21 hours ago, Niels12 said: How do you think this will happen. It is true, but very unlikely. Such a large number of people will rise up imo. You might find my thread in the solutions section of the forum useful which can be viewed here: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chud Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Again the Romanian 'revolution' wouldn't have ever been achieved if the Romanian army and their generals hadn't so ostensibly refused to obey their authorities, sided the crowd and turned against their own government… so in one of the handful true 'revolutions' that ever happened in History it's still not the general population that got it done but some entitled and empowered citizens among them… see how long Caucescu's dictatorship lasted and what the Romanians had to live through in the meantime : will people have to resort to insurrection before those empowered put an end to the COVID nightmare ? Most people even here seem to think it's not such a big deal, but many are being physically tortured and their health or life put at risk in the process of that 'medical experiment'… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velma Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 On 1/30/2021 at 11:23 PM, Niels12 said: Why is it up to the American people to make it stop? This is a worldwide operation. If it stops there, why would it stop here too? Protests are erupting all over the world, much like they were before the Covid-psy-op began last year. We saw the brave ‘dissidents’ in Hong Kong fighting against Chinese authority and the French Yellow Vests, venting their fury at austerity. Now, Denmark, Holland, Spain and Germany are joining the march of resistance to tyranny. Indian farmers and the Russian opposition are battling riot police, while in Lebanon and Tunisia, they are clashing with armed soldiers, as Israeli’s opposed to Netanyahu are feeling the brunt of the IDF. The common factor in all these protests is the economic downturn, exacerbated by lockdowns and curfew, unfair legislation and rage against police brutality. People amassing with banners and flaming torches are being met by batons, tear gas and water cannon, or rubber bullets, but they continue confronting these forces as though they have nothing left to lose, in some cases, they don’t. Clashes in Europe resemble a medieval battle, with cavalry riding in and man-to-man combat, with bare knuckles. How long before they bring the pitchforks? I’m not advocating armed resistance, but if peaceful demonstrations and the legitimate demands of the populace are constantly put down with State violence, self-defense becomes a necessity, a duty. Perhaps it’s all part of the NWO playbook, 'Ordo ab Chao.' Either that, or they have lost already! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rideforever Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 @Niels12 I was watching a documentary yesterday on the fall of the Roman Empire. Nothing can really stop these world events, the rise and fall. Yes if you wish you can join an intentional community ... or try it for a while, maybe it suits you. Or you will have to make do inside the world ... The Samurai say you have to accept this world exactly as it is ... that's Musashi in "Dokkodo". This world is a fucked up place and it will be when you die. So what is it you want? Maybe you want enlightenment or happiness or whatever ... well learn how to do it and work hard. There are traditional schools. There are some options. Maybe in the future society will chill out, maybe everyone will die. You are already being killed by this society ... and it's evils ... but also this society has sanitation ... so you are also being saved. If you don't want to lose your soul you are going to need to enter a spiritual discipline. So all these things are about being honest. Learning skills and doing something useful for yourself. Being real. Life was never easy ... the reason life is getting tougher is because all of society got big and fat and fucking lazy. Who knows maybe it is important. Life itself is taking revenge on the fat lazy shits of humanity, all of them are, rich and poor, smart and stupid. They are lazy so life is kicking you up the arse. Maybe it's good. The world is not what you want it to be. You have to work in this world and your best ... it is difficult. But then again the seagulls on the roof have no central heating, no tescos, no netflix, no nothing ... they seem pretty happy to me. Even proud of themselves judging by how they cockadoodle in the morning. Maybe they are smarter than us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chud Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Egypt, the Roman Empire, Spain, France, England and now the USA but I guess all for one same reason that has nothing natural or unavoidable, not more than 'economic growth', the 'climate change' or 'immuntary' deficience in men... it was always man-made 'in due time' and for a purpose, and as I already suggested the new first world power will know the same fate if they let Satanism and the worship of evil become the 'new normal' at their too... I think there aren't such things as 'ups and downs' or creation and destruction in the nature but just cycles and permanent recylcing of the same raw ingredients of life, and moreover I see no reason why temples and churches would stay stood for thousands of years while men's abstract works should 'be born' and 'die'... some malevolent people on Earth always worked at disrupting the normal curse of things for their own profit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpeDiem Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) 21 hours ago, chud said: Again the Romanian 'revolution' wouldn't have ever been achieved if the Romanian army and their generals hadn't so ostensibly refused to obey their authorities, sided the crowd and turned against their own government… so in one of the handful true 'revolutions' that ever happened in History it's still not the general population that got it done but some entitled and empowered citizens among them… see how long Caucescu's dictatorship lasted and what the Romanians had to live through in the meantime : will people have to resort to insurrection before those empowered put an end to the COVID nightmare ? Most people even here seem to think it's not such a big deal, but many are being physically tortured and their health or life put at risk in the process of that 'medical experiment'… I think you have the answer. Let’s be very clear......If we the people do not get a grip of this now things are going to get bad, very bad. Our only hope if we do nothing now is when humanity is suffering an army and or police force (both will be merged by then) somewhere in the world revolts and takes sides with the population, causing other army/police around the world to follow their example. We then live under those armies in individual countries? Then the people must stand together against those armies or we are really no better off. The problem humanity will face however is that it will take years of suffering before this might happen. By then if the world army is in we have no chance as that is why a world army is being introduced......to harshly control the population. Do it now peacefully or do nothing and humanity will suffer like never before. Edited February 1, 2021 by CarpeDiem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels12 Posted February 2, 2021 Author Share Posted February 2, 2021 19 hours ago, CarpeDiem said: I think you have the answer. Let’s be very clear......If we the people do not get a grip of this now things are going to get bad, very bad. Our only hope if we do nothing now is when humanity is suffering an army and or police force (both will be merged by then) somewhere in the world revolts and takes sides with the population, causing other army/police around the world to follow their example. We then live under those armies in individual countries? Then the people must stand together against those armies or we are really no better off. The problem humanity will face however is that it will take years of suffering before this might happen. By then if the world army is in we have no chance as that is why a world army is being introduced......to harshly control the population. Do it now peacefully or do nothing and humanity will suffer like never before. I agree there is a chance when there is nothing left to loose. But they are not stupid. By the time this boiling point is reached, they already have full control over your basic needs. When i see the intelligence of the people vs the intelligence of the cult. I currently see no way this is going to get better soon. Wether the singularity will happen, is debatable. But it is very likely to happen. It is better to run, than count on others to wake up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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