Artmuzz Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 I don’t really like shopping online but just recently I created an account with Amazon UK because I was looking for a digital audio device for my music production. Anyway I seen an audio device on Amazon UK and purchased it. It was very expensive. Anyway, the delivery was very fast and I received it earlier than expected. This was all good until I opened to box and to my shock and horror it was empty. There was no audio device in the box. I then contacted Amazon UK and give them their due they managed to refund me. However I have to wait until next week before the money is back in my bank account. Even though they refunded me it has put me off shopping online. Has anyone else had any issues with Amazon? I reckon I was just unlucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 I'm sorry to hear this. In my professional capacity at work, we sell on Amazon, and we know there are some unscrupulous sellers (as well as buyers I must add) out there. In your Amazon purchase history, you'll be able to see whether the item you purchased was 'sold by Amazon' or by some other third-party marketplace seller. I would suspect that you bought from some marketplace seller that was a scam operation. To their credit, Amazon does look after and protect buyers from such scams, if this was the case then hopefully that seller gets removed from the marketplace as a result. On the other hand, if the item was purchased from Amazon, or from a third-party seller using 'Fulfilled by Amazon' (FBA) then that's a whole new can of worms. I myself used to shop regularly on Amazon many years ago, until I started selling on there myself at work, once I realised that third-party sellers get charged up to 15% in 'fees', I found that in many cases you could buy the same product 'direct' from that seller's own website cheaper, you just have to do a bit of 'digging' to find them. Online shopping is the future of retail, but people shouldn't just blindly turn to Amazon as the 'solution' just because "it's so convenient". Even if the same product is the same price on a third-party seller's own website as it is on Amazon, help that seller by buying direct from them, and stop feeding the beast that Amazon is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artmuzz Posted January 30, 2021 Author Share Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said: I'm sorry to hear this. In my professional capacity at work, we sell on Amazon, and we know there are some unscrupulous sellers (as well as buyers I must add) out there. In your Amazon purchase history, you'll be able to see whether the item you purchased was 'sold by Amazon' or by some other third-party marketplace seller. I would suspect that you bought from some marketplace seller that was a scam operation. To their credit, Amazon does look after and protect buyers from such scams, if this was the case then hopefully that seller gets removed from the marketplace as a result. On the other hand, if the item was purchased from Amazon, or from a third-party seller using 'Fulfilled by Amazon' (FBA) then that's a whole new can of worms. I myself used to shop regularly on Amazon many years ago, until I started selling on there myself at work, once I realised that third-party sellers get charged up to 15% in 'fees', I found that in many cases you could buy the same product 'direct' from that seller's own website cheaper, you just have to do a bit of 'digging' to find them. Online shopping is the future of retail, but people shouldn't just blindly turn to Amazon as the 'solution' just because "it's so convenient". Even if the same product is the same price on a third-party seller's own website as it is on Amazon, help that seller by buying direct from them, and stop feeding the beast that Amazon is. The digital audio device was bought from Amazon Warehouse and listed as used but as new with damage to the box. What the description should of read was “used empty box”. Anyway, I managed to get a refund but I have to wait from 3 to 7 working days for the refund to appear in my bank account. Edited January 30, 2021 by Artmuzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Artmuzz said: The digital audio device was bought from Amazon Warehouse and listed as used but as new with damage to the box. What the description should of read was “used empty box”. Anyway, I managed to get a refund but I have to wait from 3 to 7 working days for the refund to appear in my bank account. Hi Artmuzz, I'm also sorry to hear about your experience and I'm also really keen hear more about your music production as I've had a dabble myself. I can confirm I've rarely had a bad experience shopping online generally and I can also say I've had great experience getting DJ equipment, in fact I've just ordered a treat for my setup today, looking forward to having a bash on that. So I won't recommend buying audio equipment from amazon, I recommend specialised dj and producer outlets online that also offer decent 0% finance deals. Easy search from DVT, BOPDJ, GAK, there's loads and I've used the ones I've named and had no issues. If you want any advice on equipment, just ask and I'm certain I can help you out, or certainly point you in the right direction. Edited January 30, 2021 by Morpheus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre-Raphaelite Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Reminds of the eBay scam: You buy an item, gets delivered but is a nicely wrapped block of wood in the box. Seller has proof of delivery, buyer has a problem getting money back. Similarly, with many factual cases: You sell an item and the buyer opens a return and sends it back damaged - eBay refunds them automatically. Has happened to many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artmuzz Posted January 31, 2021 Author Share Posted January 31, 2021 13 hours ago, Morpheus said: Hi Artmuzz, I'm also sorry to hear about your experience and I'm also really keen hear more about your music production as I've had a dabble myself. I can confirm I've rarely had a bad experience shopping online generally and I can also say I've had great experience getting DJ equipment, in fact I've just ordered a treat for my setup today, looking forward to having a bash on that. So I won't recommend buying audio equipment from amazon, I recommend specialised dj and producer outlets online that also offer decent 0% finance deals. Easy search from DVT, BOPDJ, GAK, there's loads and I've used the ones I've named and had no issues. If you want any advice on equipment, just ask and I'm certain I can help you out, or certainly point you in the right direction. I’ve been into electronic music since I was a kid and I make my own music as it’s a very relaxing hobby. I’ve been collecting synths and samplers since I got my first professional synth a Roland Juno 106 away back in 1991. My collection consists of synths from Yamaha DX7, Roland Juno 106 and Roland D50 to the more modern synths like Korg Prologue and Roland JD-XA. I have over fifty synths in my collection. I am also learning guitar and it’s been great for relaxing and getting over anxiety and depressing. If it wasn’t for my love of music and playing guitar and synths I’d be in the nuthouse by now. I am interested in the music of Jean Michel Jarre and the music from the classic series of Dr Who and a lot of my music is inspired by that. Anyway, this experience I’ve had from Amazon has put me off buying from them again. I’m maybe getting a refund but it’s the hassle of wondering if a item is going to be shipped to be or if it’s faulty which stresses me out. That’s why I don’t like online shopping because if the hassle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Given To Fly Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 i must say my amazon uk experiences has been pretty good. excellent even. of course your buying history and all is profiled but i think they're essential. i've never had amazon prime but still had two day deliveries over the years and even a couple sunday deliveries during the plandemic. but i dumped one of my most recent marketplace purchases, non-flouride toothpaste, because the boxes of the toothpaste were all open (three of them) and even though the silver tab thing was sealed on the tubes the tubes themself were weirdly shaped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Given To Fly said: of course your buying history and all is profiled but i think they're essential. They're becoming essential because alternatives are being destroyed. That's all part of the agenda though, us being dependent on some elite wankers, and a massive wealth transfer into their pockets. Edited February 28, 2021 by EnigmaticWorld 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 On 1/30/2021 at 9:42 PM, Pre-Raphaelite said: Similarly, with many factual cases: You sell an item and the buyer opens a return and sends it back damaged - eBay refunds them automatically. Has happened to many. Or if you're selling tech, they send you back a different device that is broken. People need to photograph the serial number before shipping the item. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rideforever Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 (edited) @Artmuzz Yeah I did. I bought a bottle of Chartreuse 6 months ago and they shipped Jamaica Rum. I thought wtf? Anyway sent it back with Hermes and they waited ages to credit me, I was sure they were going to screw me and spend half hour with Indian chap on livechat and then they gave me my money back. Don't know wtf is going on. I assume they have a 3rd party system, as a frontend for various dodgy bastards. Couple of months after that they sold me some Chartreuse for very cheap price and then ... 2 weeks later sent email saying sorry don't have it cancel. Some things they are good for ... shipping from US is cheap. Also I was looking for stainless steel muffin pan ... very hard to find these days without poisonous coating. Bought a couple from them, they were dented and fubared. Was going to send them back ... when I noticed that on my amazon listing was another steel muffin tray ... very high quality, but was on massive discount for me. No doubt they thought I would never buy another one. But as the ones I had dented, I bought the really expensive one for £20 (normally £50) and after I paid, only then did I send the first lot back. Also bought very rare qigong DVD from them recently was £17, no delivery charge. Almost impossible to get apart from with them ... turned out a good investment. Of course they are corporate tyrant bastards. Edited February 28, 2021 by rideforever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, Given To Fly said: i must say my amazon uk experiences has been pretty good. excellent even. of course your buying history and all is profiled but i think they're essential. i've never had amazon prime but still had two day deliveries over the years and even a couple sunday deliveries during the plandemic. If you must shop on Amazon, try and buy from marketplace sellers rather than from Amazon, even if you end up paying a little more. Many couriers, such as DPD and DHL Parcel have been delivering parcels over the weekends to help manage the massive volumes they're now handling. 7 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: They're becoming essential because alternatives are being destroyed. That's all part of the agenda though, us being dependent on some elite wankers, and a massive wealth transfer into their pockets. Many sellers on Amazon will also have their own website, if you just do a google search for them. Same goes for many eBay sellers. Buy direct where you can, give more of your money to independent online businesses, rather than the marketplace 'creaming off' commissions and fees. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Given To Fly Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: They're becoming essential because alternatives are being destroyed. That's all part of the agenda though, us being dependent on some elite wankers, and a massive wealth transfer into their pockets. true man but where else 'reliable' can i buy those items of intrigue and vigilance that they sell ? i did ebay and have been royally fucked over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 35 minutes ago, Given To Fly said: true man but where else 'reliable' can i buy those items of intrigue and vigilance that they sell ? i did ebay and have been royally fucked over. Oh I wasn't having a dig. I'm in the same boat in the sense that I can only find some things on Amazon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artmuzz Posted February 28, 2021 Author Share Posted February 28, 2021 As I am the OP I have an update. I managed to get a refund on the digital audio player I bought from Amazon UK which turned out to be an empty box. I then seen the same digital audio player on eBay from a seller which was £200 cheaper and he posted to me and I received it and couldn’t be happier with it. Even though I had that terrible experience with Amazon UK I have bought two more items from Amazon UK and had no problems. They were from companies who sell via Amazon and I am happy with the purchases from them. In future I will avoid anything on Amazon that is sold through the Amazon Warehouse. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 3 hours ago, Given To Fly said: true man but where else 'reliable' can i buy those items of intrigue and vigilance that they sell ? i did ebay and have been royally fucked over. 2 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said: Oh I wasn't having a dig. I'm in the same boat in the sense that I can only find some things on Amazon. Like I said, most third-party sellers on Amazon, and many reputable sellers on eBay, will have their own websites. You just need to do a bit of searching in order to find them sometimes. Even if you use Google search to find a product you want to buy, Amazon will usually come out tops in any search result, no surprise there really. Best advice I can give to anyone here using Amazon or eBay for shopping, READ THE FULL DESCRIPTION! Don't just look at the picture, or the title. From my experience, you'd be surprised just how many shoppers are buying from Amazon 'on assumption'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Just now, Grumpy Owl said: Like I said, most third-party sellers on Amazon, and many reputable sellers on eBay, will have their own websites. You just need to do a bit of searching in order to find them sometimes. Even if you use Google search to find a product you want to buy, Amazon will usually come out tops in any search result, no surprise there really. Best advice I can give to anyone here using Amazon or eBay for shopping, READ THE FULL DESCRIPTION! Don't just look at the picture, or the title. From my experience, you'd be surprised just how many shoppers are buying from Amazon 'on assumption'. Thanks for the advice. I will check if they sell elsewhere in future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gavinmnt Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 I've been shopping online for a long time and I understand how irritating it can be when something goes wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainlove Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Why dont you support your local high street, You are the problem. People like you are bringing in the beast system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Most high streets, what's left of them, are an assortment of nail bars, turkish barbers, cheap takeaways, various eateries and maybe a LIDL/Aldi/Co-Op with very limited ranges. In other words, useless. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 15 hours ago, Captainlove said: Why dont you support your local high street, You are the problem. People like you are bringing in the beast system. I agree with this totally. I used to moan about things being a bit dearer, buying local but quickly came to the conclusion that in every way local was better. I get meat, veg, milk and eggs of superior quality at a roughly 10% price increase. A lot of the items are cheaper by far. Depends how you chose to shop. On top of that, I talk to owners who genuinely care about my custom. Put things back for me. Call me if they’re not selling on my usual day. I get that finances and location dictate a lot of how we live but for me, local is a no brainier. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 The A to Z of everything sounds good until there's no competition. Let's just hope that their high street ventures fail. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainlove Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 13 hours ago, Anti Facts Sir said: Most high streets, what's left of them, are an assortment of nail bars, turkish barbers, cheap takeaways, various eateries and maybe a LIDL/Aldi/Co-Op with very limited ranges. In other words, useless. Sorry Anti i totally disagree with you. Where i live i can get most things i need locally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Just now, Captainlove said: Sorry Anti i totally disagree with you. Where i live i can get most things i need locally. That's good for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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