Should we let the sleeping carry on sleeping?

[CarpeDiem]

In my opinion It will be very hard for government to make the Covid vaccination mandatory if enough sleepers roll up their sleeves.

 

I do not know about others here but I feel at this moment in time I myself have done all I can at providing information about this Covid scam to the sleepers I know (and some i don't). I have had some success in getting through and of course some glazed over eyes, the rolling eyes, the talking over me, the laughing and of course the accusations of how dangerous I am.

 

I think, like many others I have read about (not only on this forum but elsewhere) the feeling is if the sleepers do not get it by now they never will and are a totally lost cause. With this in mind should we pull back trying to educate the sleepers about Covid/vaccination? Should we just leave them to be the 80% of lab rats the government want. Surely it would be very difficult to make the vaccine mandatory if enough sleepers take it up? The lost cause sleepers could actually be doing us a huge favour.  

[Mr H]

It is probable that without so many willing to take the jab that mandatory would be far more likely.

 

I think it is too big a generalisation to say everyone is a lost cause. Everyone's circumstance is so very different. But generally speaking most people are lost causes.

 

I have also at the start preached the message to little avail....and I did begin to ponder is it even my job to do this? To save people? Some people's life purpose maybe to save people. Maybe they have the oratory skills to get through to others or the platform to do so. Should these people give up? Probably not if they still want to.

 

Should someone like me stop trying to preach to others? Personally yes. I do not have the skills or the platform to deliver the message in an impactful way. Furthermore I have limited energy supply - so not using that where my best skill sets are - is potentially a waste.

 

My only advice to people who are preaching from the limited experience I have had. Is to remember at all times you are really speaking to two different people. 1. The real person or self. 2. The personality or the persona. Because 99% people are attached to the latter, you better make sure that you are made of the strong stuff, because you will have to deal and converse with this person - seemingly at this level - which will no doubt be frustrating.

[Mr H]

There is another perspective you could view this.

 

That there is no one and nothing to save.

 

Because, the persona once thouroughly investigated, doesn't really stand to exist. And the real self doesn't need saving. Although adopting this attitude could lead to nihilistic thinking!

 

At the end of the day, do what you are called/driven to do.

Edited January 28, 2021 by Mr H

[Morpheus]

14 minutes ago, Mr H said:

There is another perspective you could view this.

 

That there is no one and nothing to save.

 

Because, the persona once thouroughly investigated, doesn't really stand to exist. And the real self doesn't need saving.

Or another perspective, one I am beginning to understand, is that maybe we are not supposed to save anyone. This is our own journey and if they cannot wake then that is their path. At this point, everything is subjective, a bit like the great awakening, is it actually going to Happen? Who knows, there are signs, but then there are more signs that these bastards are winning this war. Hopefully the tide turns before it is too late.

Edited January 28, 2021 by Morpheus

[EnigmaticWorld]

We gain nothing by submitting. Nothing.

 

If we start to believe servitude to technocrats is life, then we have already died.

 

If we believe the length of chain they give us is freedom, then perhaps we deserve the slave collar.

 

If we are not willing to persist in this struggle, then we're already a casualty of this war.

 

This is what we have to get through to normies.

 

We have to keep trying to wake people up and just hope we reach critical mass.

 

Just don't waste your time with people that won't listen I guess. Some people only know how to follow, so they may come around if others wake up.

 

We can't give up.

[rideforever]

Sleeping ...

You have to understand that mankind is dead ... these people when they are in the ground are finished ... their lives are like a joke a painful joke.

Western society is most likely doomed in any case.

Human beings are just stupid monkeys, they grow their societies and blow them up.

 

The only thing that makes any difference ever is the number of Conscious individuals there are.  And there are few.  Jesus was one.  One out of hundreds of millions.

So if you want to help. yourself and others, be a Conscious individual.

It is the only thing.

 

All this talk ... does nothing.  Means nothing ... you can do a bit here and there but ...

Conspiracy theorists who spend their lives on the internet ... are dying like everyone else.

Just another day when you didn't become Conscious, when you live through the circulation of fear and hate in society.

 

It's all the same what you circulate be that synthetic unnatural humanity ... propaganda or conspiracy ... all these people are the same more or less.

 

What is the great hidden secrete of the ages?
What is it ?
... it is that you won't sober up and act responsibly.

It is that whatever your position in life you complain.

You have 5 things to do today but you don't do them, and if you do them you do them miserably.

It is that you are a miserable person.

It is far more fun to slag off the rest of the world and emanate a black smoke your entire life.

You refuse everything except pissing up a wall.

Nothing is constructive.

Everything is blame.

And you think everyone past or present is somehow stupid and you are not.

No.

This is a wrong way to live.

 

Edited January 28, 2021 by rideforever

[wideawake]

1 hour ago, CarpeDiem said:

Should we just leave them to be the 80% of lab rats the government want. Surely it would be very difficult to make the vaccine mandatory if enough sleepers take it up? The lost cause sleepers could actually be doing us a huge favour.  

 

I think you have it backward mate. 

It would actually be easier to make the vaccine mandatory if most people take it, they would only have to enforce it on very few. Mandatory vaccination would (will) be required for work, access to government buildings and employment benefits, etc, etc and the few unvaccinated would (will) be the rejects of society. 

Actually, the sleepers are the problem we are seeing today, going along with everything the scammers are telling us and they attack the "conspiracy theorists" on masking, distancing and every other crap thrown at us.

 

Lets put it this way. If the majority of people on this rock refused vaccination then the cabal's agenda would be fruitless.

That's just the way I see it. 

[EnigmaticWorld]

14 minutes ago, rideforever said:

Sleeping ...

You have to understand that mankind is dead ... these people when they are in the ground are finished ... their lives are like a joke a painful joke.

 

Maybe a lot of people feel the same but they're not quite sure why.

 

I do mostly agree with what you said, but I'm not sure if I want to spread doom porn. Maybe pep talks are useless, but I feel like we're in trouble once people lose hope.

 

[rideforever]

21 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

I do mostly agree with what you said, but I'm not sure if I want to spread doom porn. Maybe pep talks are useless, but I feel like we're in trouble once people lose hope.

 

Hello old friend.

 

To be with hope is to lose hope ... because life is for living for growing for seeing the truth.  For climbing mountains.  It is the same for all the creatures of the world, all the trees ... come spring they push push push ... and grow.

Humanity is dead because it is ... not moving ... it is lost in the pleasure of talking ... and talking of doom or whatever is just talking.

Get off thy knees.  Get off your arse.

Stop talking.

 

A major factor leading to the CV hysteria is that society doesn't do anything any more.  Because of "health and safety", because of "science".

People know they are dying so they are generating their own pandemic in order to feel alive ... and in some sense they are right to do so.

 

Now ... waning people ... or scrutinizing the dark forces of the world ... all you are doing is staring at a plastic screen and spinning dirty fearmongering tales.

Fuck that and fuck them.

 

You are under no laws but Gods.

Get up and start living.

That is the whole thing.

 

Living for your self ... for your own specific interests and aim ... grow ... be it gardening, jujitsu, or going into outer space.

DO SOMETHING

Or you will die.

 

Society is dying because people have stopped doing anything.

 

All this phoney internet drama is just lazy fat monkeys staring at the screen.

Do you see it ?

All these people sounding so important with their truth or their pandemic or their whatever ... stand back and see them sitting in from of a computer screen slowly dying.

 

It's not that they are going to die .... they are DEAD NOW.

That is why Jesus says to the middle class Jews in the synagogue congratulating themselves .... he says to them:

"No ... YOU live  in poverty and you ARE the poverty".

At first they don't understand him ... but finally when they do they drag him to the edge of a cliff ... and he only just escapes.

 

Luke 8

16 He went to Nazareth, where he had been brought up, and on the Sabbath day he went into the synagogue, as was his custom. He stood up to read, 17 and the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to him. Unrolling it, he found the place where it is written:

18 “The Spirit of the Lord is on me,
    because he has anointed me
    to proclaim good news to the poor.
He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners
    and recovery of sight for the blind,
to set the oppressed free,
19     to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor.”[f]

20 Then he rolled up the scroll, gave it back to the attendant and sat down. The eyes of everyone in the synagogue were fastened on him. 21 He began by saying to them, “Today this scripture is fulfilled in your hearing.”

 

... so what does this ... fulfilled in your hearing ?  It means that you are the prisoners and you are the poor.

Many things are hidden in Jesus's words, here he says to a fancy synagogue that the people in there are the poor.

... they didn't like to hear that.   They thought the poor were outside begging.

 

 

Edited January 28, 2021 by rideforever

[CarpeDiem]

34 minutes ago, wideawake said:

 

I think you have it backward mate. 

It would actually be easier to make the vaccine mandatory if most people take it, they would only have to enforce it on very few. Mandatory vaccination would (will) be required for work, access to government buildings and employment benefits, etc, etc and the few unvaccinated would (will) be the rejects of society. 

Actually, the sleepers are the problem we are seeing today, going along with everything the scammers are telling us and they attack the "conspiracy theorists" on masking, distancing and every other crap thrown at us.

 

Lets put it this way. If the majority of people on this rock refused vaccination then the cabal's agenda would be fruitless.

That's just the way I see it. 

That is a very good point you make wideawake. I spend a lot of time looking at msm versions of events, alternative media versions and lots of my own research to try and get a balanced look at what is being said. I teach my children to do the same.

 

It is always refreshing when I post a question that results in lots of fantastic opinions from fantastic fellow human beings. Each and every opinion (wether I agree with them or not) has it's worth and enlightens me further.

 

[wideawake]

2 minutes ago, CarpeDiem said:

That is a very good point you make wideawake. I spend a lot of time looking at msm versions of events, alternative media versions and lots of my own research to try and get a balanced look at what is being said. I teach my children to do the same.

 

It is always refreshing when I post a question that results in lots of fantastic opinions from fantastic fellow human beings. Each and every opinion (wether I agree with them or not) has it's worth and enlightens me further.

 

 

We need as many on our side as we can get to fight this scamdemic and the more we are the harder it is for them to accomplish their goal. Together in numbers is the only way. I know it is hard to wake up the sleepers and sometimes a waste of energy but we have not alternatives. 

If only the scammers could end up in courts and politicians kicked out of power, it sure would make a big difference.

We can only hope.

Cheers! 

[chud]

2 hours ago, wideawake said:

 

If only the scammers could end up in courts and politicians kicked out of power, it sure would make a big difference.

 

 

Who do you think could accomplish that ? Caucescu's dictatorship ended only when the Romanian army and its authorities refused to obey and turned against their government, which the US constitution allows all American citizens to do if their basic rights and freedoms get threatened...

 

[wideawake]

6 hours ago, chud said:

 

Who do you think could accomplish that ? Caucescu's dictatorship ended only when the Romanian army and its authorities refused to obey and turned against their government, which the US constitution allows all American citizens to do if their basic rights and freedoms get threatened...

 

 

If enough people were to wake the f' up, we wouldn't be in this mess.

[johnkim]

If enough ppl take the vaccine and die from it, we can actually have the chance to turn this Great Reset around.

 

For instances, most frontline health workers who voluntarily took the covid vaccines are most likely the same health care workers that deny vaccine injury is real and responsible of hurting millions of children around the world.

 

If they start dying from covid vaccine, it is actually doing humanity big favor:

 

1)Wake up rest of the people that something is terribly wrong with this vaccine and jump start the investigation of the scandemic

2)Culling these useful idiots healthcare workers who wittingly or unwittingly acted as henchmen for cabal and poisoned the humanity